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06-24-2014, 08:53 AM

Teaser Gallery: Panini America Opens Early Boxes of 2014 Hot Rookies Football (http://paniniamerica.wordpress.com/2014/06/24/teaser-gallery-panini-america-opens-early-boxes-of-2014-hot-rookies-football/) Jun 24th 2014, 13:51, by Tracy Hackler
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Now that we’re two days into one of the busiest weeks in recent Panini America history, it’s time to get cranking. Tomorrow, three new products release to the hobby (2014 Hot Rookies Football, 2013-14 Contenders Hockey and 2013-14 Select Basketball); Thursday the USA plays Germany in a huge FIFA World Cup matchup and then the 2014 NBA Draft tips off later that night. Today, we’re going to spend quite a bit of time today previewing the three aforementioned new releases, starting with 2014 Hot Rookies Football.
Clearly, there’s a reason the NFL season’s first hobby-only release is called “Hot Rookies.” In the Teaser Gallery that follows, we bring you a pack-by-pack breakdown of our three-box 2014 Hot Rookies Football thrill ride. The sold-out product releases in hobby shops across North America tomorrow, but we’re hoping this exclusive first look is enough to hold you over until then.

2014 Hot Rookies Football is a blast to open based on a unique box configuration that delivers four distinct pack types: One 32-card base-card/parallel pack, one 10-card pack featuring eight Rookie Cards and two Hot Rookies, one five-card insert pack and a three-card autograph pack. And within those pack types, there are Hot Pack versions.
The unique configuration begs the question: Do you open your three-card autograph pack first or do you save it until the end? Think about that for a bit and let us know in the comments section below. First, though, check out the gallery. We think you’ll like it.
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Frankp2311

06-24-2014, 08:57 AM

Not for me.

DieHardCowboyFan33

06-24-2014, 09:01 AM

Isiah Pead autographs? Photoshopped Rookies? *sigh* no thank you...

Joe

06-24-2014, 09:01 AM

After the Score debacle concerning the auto's, I'm just hoping I'm not missing my autograph pack.

DUCKanay

06-24-2014, 09:02 AM

Dang, no on cards huh. Glad I got into SPX instead.

garpike

06-24-2014, 09:03 AM

Isiah Pead autographs? Photoshopped Rookies? *sigh* no thank you...

We can get Pead on again!!! WOOOOO!!! :flex:

bk21yadigg

06-24-2014, 09:07 AM

Bobby Rainey hasn't been a Raven for almost a year.

http://img.pandawhale.com/44873-facepalm-gif-W6sa.gif

davdukes4

06-24-2014, 09:07 AM

After the Score debacle concerning the auto's, I'm just hoping I'm not missing my autograph pack.

They took all those 'missing' score autos and put them into this product! Can't wait for my Manziel hot pack.

sportscards0513

06-24-2014, 09:10 AM

A nice sticker dump for Panini.

Viking6

06-24-2014, 09:10 AM

Bobby Rainey hasn't been a Raven for almost a year.

Yah seriously. This product is going to be a joke.

Joe

06-24-2014, 09:13 AM

They took all those 'missing' score autos and put them into this product! Can't wait for my Manziel hot pack.

I've been saying the same thing... Ive got two cases coming in, I guess I will open them but I'm already counting it as 2 grand wasted. The week delay made my regret buying it, although I'm not impressed at all with Bowman either.

deltapi1049

06-24-2014, 09:29 AM

You can still see where they stamped Hot rookies over the score logo. What a joke full of pure laziness.

garpike

06-24-2014, 09:34 AM

I love that all the Relic/Autos have SCORE on them with no sign of Hot Rookies.

LOL!

:)

freethrowtommy

06-24-2014, 09:37 AM

http://i.lvme.me/6j4ko0x.jpg

adamblumy

06-24-2014, 09:38 AM

Isiah Pead autographs? Photoshopped Rookies? *sigh* no thank you...

My thoughts exactly...what the hell is Pead doing in this? And this is coming from a Cowboys fan-who wants a Gavin Escobar 2nd year auto? Panini is using this as a sticker dump it looks like.

Rhyster66

06-24-2014, 09:49 AM

Bobby Rainey hasn't been a Raven for almost a year.

http://img.pandawhale.com/44873-facepalm-gif-W6sa.gif

I've actually been wanting a Bobby Rainey auto in a Bucs Uni, sucks that it prob won't happen.

kyle1707

06-24-2014, 09:58 AM

so awful........

Joe

06-24-2014, 10:03 AM

So basically 1 inscriptions auto and 2 rookie auto's per auto pack. The inscriptions auto list is probably the worst list of auto's I've ever seen... There might be 5 from the list that warrant more than 5 bucks. I was bored and purchased 2 cases a few weeks ago... Might be a rough Wednesday lol.

CTest77

06-24-2014, 10:04 AM

Dumpster. Fire.

crazy4kinsler

06-24-2014, 10:06 AM

Joe

06-24-2014, 10:13 AM

So, if an LCS decides to sell by the pack, all 3 autos are in 1 pack? That's so smart. Let me have that 1 pack with all the autos. Y'all can keep the rest. And let me try and figure out which pack has all the junk base/parallels…hmmm.

Doesn't seem like a good idea for LCS' that sell by the pack.

It'd be nearly impossible to sell by the pack. Rookie pack for $20, base back for 15, insert pack for 15 and auto pack for 30? Something like that but it'd still be very odd.

Mattsurewood

06-24-2014, 10:35 AM

"Steaming" Hot Rookies

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff137/Kozakman/steaming_pile.gif

davdukes4

06-24-2014, 11:02 AM

I've been saying the same thing... Ive got two cases coming in, I guess I will open them but I'm already counting it as 2 grand wasted. The week delay made my regret buying it, although I'm not impressed at all with Bowman either.

Is there a checklist?

jared6180

06-24-2014, 11:05 AM

I don't like score or Hot Rookies or whatever they are calling this but that De'Anthony Thomas Auto kind of turns me on!

This is Isaiah Peads THIRD year of mediocrity...

Joe

06-24-2014, 11:10 AM

Is there a checklist?

It's just the score checklist... but flashier lol.

armyatc22

06-24-2014, 11:12 AM

The same thing happens every year

The companies always throw out "special" insert sets to get rid of old stickers

Now if those Peads were Lucks instead people wouldn't think anything of it because of the player but since it's Pead well we will always get this thought process

bradical

06-24-2014, 11:13 AM

I liked it better when they just called this stuff Score.

ILOVEBEER

06-24-2014, 11:15 AM

I love that all the Relic/Autos have SCORE on them with no sign of Hot Rookies.

LOL!

:)

Yeah. Dion Jordan and Gavin Escobar? Really? I can go on Ebay and buy those from last year. Probably cost me $5 each for generic non-numbered not game used sticker auto/relic. Glad I didnt purchase any of this.

groundhog

06-24-2014, 11:15 AM

As usual with Panini, the comments in the article are better than the actual cards.

ManInTheMirror

06-24-2014, 11:16 AM

Wait, I had figured HOT ROOKIES would be an all rookie release.

I don seen an Elway card and a Pead auto.

wtf

Skootown

06-24-2014, 11:18 AM

Pead, Escobar, and Rainey?

I thought it was sort of understood that you can only include autos of scrub rookies, not vets.

Not that I was buying the airbrushed stuff anyway, but that's pretty weak.

dirtydistance

06-24-2014, 11:40 AM

This is around the time to throw away the Isaiah pead stickers. That or put about 12 of them on 1 card and make some unique 1/1

On a side note, aside from nt and contenders is it safe to say paninis next best product is a "free" promo set

davdukes4

06-24-2014, 12:11 PM

I don't like score or Hot Rookies or whatever they are calling this but that De'Anthony Thomas Auto kind of turns me on!

This is Isaiah Peads THIRD year of mediocrity...

Don't get caught in that mindset or you might end up getting pead on.

auctionjmm

06-24-2014, 12:16 PM

Joe

06-24-2014, 12:18 PM

It's all a numbers game people. You get roughly 80 parallels per case #'d /99 or less, and 48 autographs per case, many of which will be numbered too. Whats the worst case scenario with that many parallels? Player selection is meaningful of course, but it can't be THAT bad to rip a case and play the numbers game.

See... I knew there was one person out there that thought like me...
That inscriptions auto list is God awful though... but I agree 100% with what you're saying.

chutneyfactory

06-24-2014, 12:42 PM

You can still see where they stamped Hot rookies over the score logo. What a joke full of pure laziness.

From what I know about printing/stamping techniques, the Score logo would have to be part of the plate, so I dont know how much of a mistake this could be. had to be intentional. They would have had to make a new plate with the Hot Rookies logo to do this. I dont think they printed them as Score, then went back and coated these with holofoil and then restamped them.

I like the look of the base and parallels and even the Inscriptions design is nice. The amount of hits is great too. I just hate the college uniform pictures and the Auto checklist for Inscriptions. Why not wait a bit, make this a rookie only release and use photos from the Rookie Premiere? Would have been a nice "update" to Score.

chutneyfactory

06-24-2014, 01:05 PM

Also, whats up with separating the packs like that? I see how it drives full box sales, but this isnt a high end product. A lot of people just like to bust a few packs here and there. I can't wait to see the packs of base and rookies being sold for cheap

deltapi1049

06-24-2014, 01:11 PM

From what I know about printing/stamping techniques, the Score logo would have to be part of the plate, so I dont know how much of a mistake this could be. had to be intentional. They would have had to make a new plate with the Hot Rookies logo to do this. I dont think they printed them as Score, then went back and coated these with holofoil and then restamped them.

They printed them as score, and restamped them as hot rookies. See below. No need to be an apologist for this pile.

http://www.sportscardsuncensored.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Capture1.jpg

MW Connection

06-24-2014, 01:13 PM

awful. Solid airbrush though. Is this a spinoff of Score?

trixstar

06-24-2014, 01:14 PM

http://media.giphy.com/media/Kerg053G7ZJUQ/giphy.gif

BlueReloaded

06-24-2014, 01:17 PM

awful. Solid airbrush though. Is this a spinoff of Score?

Its the hobby version of Score.

MW Connection

06-24-2014, 01:18 PM

Its the hobby version of Score.

lol. Like They really needed to add another product to the 20 they already have planned for 2014.

BlueReloaded

06-24-2014, 01:19 PM

They printed them as score, and restamped them as hot rookies. See below. No need to be an apologist for this pile.

It's the hobby version of Score, so I don't know why the name calling is necessary (outside the fact you can't stand anything Panini).

chutneyfactory

06-24-2014, 01:22 PM

They printed them as score, and restamped them as hot rookies. See below. No need to be an apologist for this pile.

http://www.sportscardsuncensored.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Capture1.jpg

Im not apologizing. I also dont see it in the pictures of the product from their "break". I dont personally care for Panini most of the time.

Im betting that I know more about printing processes and they didnt restamp these. Everything stamped into that card (except serial numbering) that you see as texture is from one single plate.

deltapi1049

06-24-2014, 01:28 PM

Im not apologizing. I also dont see it in the pictures of the product from their "break". I dont personally care for Panini most of the time.

Im betting that I know more about printing processes and they didnt restamp these. Everything stamped into that card (except serial numbering) that you see as texture is from one single plate.

It was in their QC gallery - and even if it is texture from one plate - WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE THE SCORE LOGO THERE?!?

deltapi1049

06-24-2014, 01:31 PM

It's the hobby version of Score, so I don't know why the name calling is necessary (outside the fact you can't stand anything Panini).

I hate a lot of what Panini does for a lot of reasons like this stamping laziness. Cutting corners.

The 350pt text "HOT ROOKIES" doesnt help me like it more.

chutneyfactory

06-24-2014, 01:47 PM

It was in their QC gallery - and even if it is texture from one plate - WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE THE SCORE LOGO THERE?!?

My only guess is that because this is a spinoff of Score, maybe they meant to leave it in. This is basically Score Hot Rookies, just like there used to be Score Inscriptions. It looks like they intended to have it ghosted in. I'm guessing they went back and forth on what to brand this as and already had that plate made.

Those franchise fabrics Autos dont even have the Hot Rookies logo on them at all or the holocoating, that looks lazier to me than this.

tajikey

06-24-2014, 01:49 PM

deltapi1049

06-24-2014, 01:54 PM

My only guess is that because this is a spinoff of Score, maybe they meant to leave it in. This is basically Score Hot Rookies, just like there used to be Score Inscriptions. It looks like they intended to have it ghosted in. I'm guessing they went back and forth on what to brand this as and already had that plate made.

Those franchise fabrics Autos dont even have the Hot Rookies logo on them at all or the holocoating, that looks lazier to me than this.

Im still lost here - the plates were part of their QC galleries - all of which have only the Score logo on there. I am really having a hard time grasping your explanations here. Legitimately - not in a mocking sort of way. Help me understand how you would do this.

I agree with you on the second point.

chutneyfactory

06-24-2014, 02:28 PM

Im still lost here - the plates were part of their QC galleries - all of which have only the Score logo on there. I am really having a hard time grasping your explanations here. Legitimately - not in a mocking sort of way. Help me understand how you would do this.

I agree with you on the second point.

You can see that were some of the letters have raised areas that, if previously stamped, that area would have already been depressed from a "Score" stamping. A stamp could be made with multiple depths that could include the Score logo as well. The more I look at it, the SCORE logo is not even stamped in the same way as the regular score cards which have just an embossed outline. This could maybe be some kind of weird photoshopped thing even?

Like I said before, I dont see it in any of the cards posted in the break.

BlueReloaded

06-24-2014, 02:32 PM

I hate a lot of what Panini does for a lot of reasons like this stamping laziness. Cutting corners.

The 350pt text "HOT ROOKIES" doesnt help me like it more.

Two completely different arguments here.

1) the large "HOT ROOKIES" text I get, I'm not a fan of it either and design opinions vary.

2) the "HOT ROOKIES" stamp is a completely different element. It is something they decided to do to differentiate the RETAIL version from the HOBBY version. Some sets change card stock, they decided to put a stamp on the card. It is still Score, but the hobby version and that is why "Score" is left on the card.

You are being completely unreasonable here. Strange, I don't hear you yelling and screaming since Topps base and Topps Chrome are the same design, just with a different card stock and the Topps Chrome stamp.

goldenegg1

06-24-2014, 02:42 PM

The TY Hilton plate clearly has Score on it.
They restamped them to make them Hot Rookies, there is your proof.
That Hilton should be packed in Score, not this garbage

edited to add:

The back of the plate even says 2014 Score!

armyatc22

06-24-2014, 02:46 PM

600 total cards shipped (all rookies or numbered) in a case break I would say that gives pretty decent value for group breaks would you think?

BlueReloaded

06-24-2014, 02:48 PM

chutneyfactory

06-24-2014, 02:49 PM

The TY Hilton plate clearly has Score on it.
They restamped them to make them Hot Rookies, there is your proof.
That Hilton should be packed in Score, not this garbage

That plate only carries ink. Were they printed in the same run as score? I dont know, Hot Rookies looks to be on a thicker stock but probably printed from the same ink plates. They just added a Holofoil and stamped them differently for Hot Rookies.

The main point I am trying to make is that when you understand manufacturing techniques, you can begin to understand some of the choices the manufacturers make.

auctionjmm

06-24-2014, 03:01 PM

600 total cards shipped (all rookies or numbered) in a case break I would say that gives pretty decent value for group breaks would you think?

There are base cards though. So not all 600 are numbered or rookies. More like 300 will be numbered or rookies.

MW Connection

06-24-2014, 03:24 PM

A nice sticker dump for Panini.

right on. A nice way to dispose of some of their junk and they know we will buy it because we are junkies.

The Card Album

06-24-2014, 03:38 PM

I remember when sticker dumps would at least have players pictured with their current team. This product shows that Panini is clearly in a "F you, pay me" state of mind.

garpike

06-24-2014, 03:41 PM

I remember when sticker dumps would at least have players pictured with their current team. This product shows that Panini is clearly in a "F you, pay me" state of mind.

I agree...Nick Folk's auto cards last year had his rookie auto stickers on them but at least had him pictured in a Jets uniform!

How hard would it be to at least get a current photo!?

:(

deltapi1049

06-24-2014, 03:55 PM

My counters below.

Two completely different arguments here.

1) the large "HOT ROOKIES" text I get, I'm not a fan of it either and design opinions vary.

Right and my opinion on Giant Text is that it is an eyesore.

2) the "HOT ROOKIES" stamp is a completely different element. It is something they decided to do to differentiate the RETAIL version from the HOBBY version. Some sets change card stock, they decided to put a stamp on the card. It is still Score, but the hobby version and that is why "Score" is left on the card.

It is my OPINION, that I think you have their idea completely off. Based on what it looks like, all the cards were printed as hobby score - and then a decision was made after to rename the set with Hot Rookies (there is no "score" in the product title). Instead of paying the money to redesign and reprint the cards, they chose to just foil stamp the new logo they designed to cover the existing score logo. Its a cost cutting measure, not a measure to "differentiate" it. The differentiation is implied. Its more of a dumb decision to need to differentiate it in the first place, then to stamp it. The stamping just looks horrible, because its the equivalent of a cover up tattoo.

Even if the decision was made at product inception to differentiate the products with the foil stamp, its a poor decision as evidenced by the look of the cover up.

You are being completely unreasonable here. Strange, I don't hear you yelling and screaming since Topps base and Topps Chrome are the same design, just with a different card stock and the Topps Chrome stamp.

No, Topps prints the cards separately with a logo change on the plates. My point is that that Hot Rookies is inferior to begin with because of the choice to use the stamping to cover up their dumb need to differentiate it to make it seem more high end.

It wouldnt be half as bad without it. Score isnt actually a bad design this year, however I agree more differentiation should occur with Chrome, as I have said in posts before. You seem to have missed that.

You love Panini, which is why this is always going to be a Mac vs PC discussion. I hate a lot of what Panini does because of decisions like this. Obviously, it doesnt bother you, and you are entitled to that opinion, just like I am entitled to mine.

chrisfaceoff

06-24-2014, 04:22 PM

I agree...Nick Folk's auto cards last year had his rookie auto stickers on them but at least had him pictured in a Jets uniform!

How hard would it be to at least get a current photo!?

:(

What set was this?

matt roberson

06-24-2014, 04:37 PM

What a bunch of garbage..... that teaser gallery just got rid of my urge to buy any of this crap!

It looks like "score" was printed on the cards (ink) and they went back and stamped the "hot rookies" over the top later (foil)..... the printing and the foil are two different components and are two separate processes correct?

It looks like that Hyde example that was posted was just a bad angle where both characteristics are visible on the same card (or it was just a bad job on that card altogether) as the other examples appear to be done this way but the "score" is not visible.

Tones

06-24-2014, 09:12 PM

that's just terrible...

zonacats8

06-24-2014, 09:16 PM

garpike

06-24-2014, 09:47 PM

What set was this?

Sorry...It was from 2012...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/attachments/football/121574d1358444680-help-assign-value-nick-folk-1355_001.jpg

:)

chrisfaceoff

06-24-2014, 10:21 PM

What set was it, also you dont by any chance want to move it do you?

chris43

06-24-2014, 10:36 PM

Gavin Escobar: 9 receptions, 134 yards, 2 TDs, back up TE. Why is he in this product? (along with many others)

They should have called it 2014 STICKER DUMP!

Tracy Hackler......."The Knights Lance"..........what a joke! I couldn't stand this loser at Beckett and I dislike him even more now.

PLEASE UPPER DECK GET A LICENSE ASAP!! PLEASE WE BEG YOU!

garpike

06-25-2014, 08:22 AM

What set was it, also you dont by any chance want to move it do you?

I believe these came out of contenders as extra hits.

Sorry, I already sold it.

:(