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bpo
07-01-2014, 01:32 PM
How do you guys think EJ will perform in his second season as the Bills QB? I just picked up a base contenders auto for $25 and was wondering if the purchase will pay off. Did I get a good deal?

Type your input/predictions below. Thanks!

ChicoCheese
07-01-2014, 01:36 PM
Well he has Jackson and Spiller and Woods, Goodwin, and Watkins split out wide. Not to mention the Bills defense is pretty good. They could be a surprise this season.

darscards35kd
07-01-2014, 01:40 PM
Shhhhh. Lets just say Ive been stocking up ;)

Skootown
07-01-2014, 01:47 PM
Sure hope so! Been slowly getting his chrome non-auto rainbow together.

Have everything except for Red and the Super, so that will probably be it for me.

Started buying them last year bc they were so cheap, hoping he has a few good games to start out the season so I can flip most of what I have.

He has all the weapons in the world, unfortunately practice reports haven't been very good.

addicted36
07-01-2014, 01:48 PM
Unless Brady finds the fountain of youth there is no clear cut favorite to me this year in the AFC East. The Dolphins almost made the playoffs last year and likely would have had they not lost 3/4ths of there starting offensive line. If that's fixed then Miami is in the mix for the division. Buffalo will be in the mix as well. They have one of the best defenses in the league today and an offense which is under rated with young play makers all over it. Chris Johnson and Mike Vick make the Jets spoilers this year and could eventually decide who wins it.

The casual fans out there still think the Patriots own that division and have it on lock down but the sharks are circling. No one beats Father time including Brady, Peyton, and everyone else in the league.

If the season goes the way I think it will then the AFC East will be more interesting then it has been in years. We will all witness a changing of the guard. I may be premature by a season but bank on this happening very very soon

When Buffalo upsets the Patriots you know the starting QB's prices are going to rise for a short time. I can see that contenders increase from $25 to around the high $30 low $40 mark sometime next season, which will make for a decent but not outstanding profit for you. Profit is profit and that is why your asking this right?

I think if you time it right, the Bills play the Patriots on October 12th that's your best bet to time selling it not the couple of early weeks of success. Everyone at the beginning of the season thinks that about every card they own usually, that floods the market and hampers price increases. Wait until a week before that October date to move it. Unless the wildest thing happens and the week 17 date comes into play and they are playing in a win and your in or loser goes home game. If that happens then your cards going to increase 2-3times what you paid but holding that long to me takes balls of steel. I wouldn't do that. Move it in early October and pick it back up in the off season, would be cheaper to do that

Just my opinion and I own no EJ Manuals any more. Cue the random apologetic Patriot fans to debunk my opinion now lol

ManInTheMirror
07-01-2014, 01:48 PM
I've been reading Tuel has been looking better thus far this preseason............

addicted36
07-01-2014, 01:56 PM
I've been reading Tuel has been looking better thus far this preseason............

Reports like this can be advantageous to anyone looking to buy, news reports like that make hands shaky and cause prices to drop. Hopefully more news reports come out like that so these guys can load the truck up for cheap

Chrisp253
07-01-2014, 02:52 PM
Im hopin he does well i have a few ejs including 2 9.5 red chromes /25 im hoping to be able to offload for more card money.

lagalaxyfan23
07-01-2014, 03:08 PM
I've been reading Tuel has been looking better thus far this preseason............

Tuel also had probably the best preseason game out of any other QB last season and everyone hyped him, and he sucked when he had to fill in for EJ. He is nowhere near as good as EJ, and as long as EJ stays healthy him and Watkins are going to have an awesome season.

crpalmi
07-01-2014, 03:15 PM
Nothing personal but I'm hoping he tanks...only for the selfish reason of the Browns holding their first round pick next year. Hoping for a top ten pick (other than the usual one of their own that seems all to often to be a top pick)!

Qwasian
07-01-2014, 07:57 PM
Unless Brady finds the fountain of youth there is no clear cut favorite to me this year in the AFC East.

what nfl do you watch? tom brady threw for over 4,000 yards last year with an entirely new receiving core. they were 1 win away from the superbowl in a high altitude denver game......... what makes you think he needs a fountain of youth?

Qwasian
07-01-2014, 07:59 PM
I've been reading Tuel has been looking better thus far this preseason............

u nostradamus bro? preseason doesn't start until august. :D training camp hasn't even started.

mwash1983
07-01-2014, 08:14 PM
Welp they are going to have to score a lot of points, sounds like they lost Alonzo for a long time a major hit on their defense.

Coventry6546
07-01-2014, 08:19 PM
what nfl do you watch? tom brady threw for over 4,000 yards last year with an entirely new receiving core. they were 1 win away from the superbowl in a high altitude denver game......... what makes you think he needs a fountain of youth?

I hate to say it and most importantly somewhat agree with addicted, but Tom Brady is on the decline. I've been going to the Pats/Bills game in Buffalo for at least ten years with my high school buddy who now lives in Angola and has been a long time Bills fan. All good things must come to an end, last year after another somewhat competitive game I looked at my buddy and said, "Hey, your team is getting better and is on the rise and Tom Freakin Brady is going to have to retire at some point".

Until he does the Pats will always be the favorite to win the AFC East and continue to be in the discussion of Super Bowl contenders (yeah, yeah, I know just being in the discussion doesn't make them relevant).

At the same time, who knows what the Pats will be in two to three years, they could reload, have some unknown quarterback step into a very well run organization and dominate the AFC East and for the most part the AFC in general or they could become like the bills and wind up at the bottom of the league with a bunch of low round draft picks and still amount to nothing

It's a funny league!

Qwasian
07-01-2014, 08:36 PM
I hate to say it and most importantly somewhat agree with addicted, but Tom Brady is on the decline.


a Tom Brady on the decline is better than an EJ Manuel, Ryan Tannehill, or Geno Smith on the Rise any day of the week. people kinda get lost in that fact. he's not as good as he used to be and maybe the team isn't either, but they are still better than everybody else in the division by a mile.

he performed better than any of those QB's last season, 1 win away from the superbowl against denver, with an entire new receiving core......... just step back and think about the reality of that for a second......

Coventry6546
07-01-2014, 08:41 PM
a Tom Brady on the decline is better than an EJ Manuel, Ryan Tannehill, or Geno Smith on the Rise any day of the week. people kinda get lost in that fact. he's not as good as he used to be and maybe the team isn't either, but they are still better than everybody else in the division by a mile.

he performed better than any of those QB's last season, 1 win away from the superbowl against denver, with an entire new receiving core......... just step back and think about the reality of that for a second......

Guess you didn't pick up on my sarcasm in the rest of my post

Rhyster66
07-01-2014, 08:41 PM
It will be TuelTime.

Qwasian
07-01-2014, 08:43 PM
Guess you didn't pick up on my sarcasm in the rest of my post

I did, I agreed with you and added on.

addicted36
07-01-2014, 09:30 PM
what nfl do you watch? tom brady threw for over 4,000 yards last year with an entirely new receiving core. they were 1 win away from the superbowl in a high altitude denver game......... what makes you think he needs a fountain of youth?

Did I call it or what?

Cue the random apologetic Patriot fans to debunk my opinion now lol

You Patriot fans are so predictable :p


a Tom Brady on the decline is better than an EJ Manuel, Ryan Tannehill, or Geno Smith on the Rise any day of the week.

For this season maybe, but even your Brady can't beat Father Time and that won't always be the case. You should accept that now because his last game played is bound to happen sooner rather then later.

Tough blow for the Bills defense today, very tough break

bballcollector
07-01-2014, 09:34 PM
I've been reading Tuel has been looking better thus far this preseason............

Watching the game when he played against the Browns he looked awful. I find it hard to believe he's playing better than EJ.

YanksBillsFan
07-01-2014, 10:06 PM
It wasn't all that tough to look better than EJ last season. I didn't really like what I saw from him, but I'm hoping more time getting familiar with the offense will help him turn it around.

MW Connection
07-01-2014, 10:43 PM
Watching the game when he played against the Browns he looked awful. I find it hard to believe he's playing better than EJ.

I remember this one he looked so terrible.

Qwasian
07-02-2014, 06:21 AM
Watching the game when he played against the Browns he looked awful. I find it hard to believe he's playing better than EJ.

he's not playing at all, they are training/working out only. pre-season hasn't started yet. kiko hurt himself working out

Qwasian
07-02-2014, 06:32 AM
For this season maybe, but even your Brady can't beat Father Time and that won't always be the case. You should accept that now because his last game played is bound to happen sooner rather then later.

I'm not really worried about that at all, because when he's ready to hang it up in the next few years we have a system, high value back up qb's, and a money stack to work with. we draft well and operate well, I feel good about the future as well as the past, I mean we had bledsoe before brady, we've been solid at the QB position for the last 20 years or more. good luck w/ the RG3 project buddy..... i'll check him out when he's up the street & tell you how bad he's limping this year.

davdukes4
07-02-2014, 06:52 AM
+Very good defense
+Weapons on offense

-He's on the bills
-He isn't a very good quarterback



Though, for that price you made a good investment.


I'm not really worried about that at all, because when he's ready to hang it up in the next few years we have a system, high value back up qb's, and a money stack to work with. we draft well and operate well, I feel good about the future as well as the past, I mean we had bledsoe before brady, we've been solid at the QB position for the last 20 years or more. good luck w/ the RG3 project buddy..... i'll check him out when he's up the street & tell you how bad he's limping this year.

Who thinks the Patriots are going to be bad after Brady retires???

As long as belicheck hangs around that is going to be a winning franchise.

armyatc22
07-02-2014, 07:00 AM
Being a Dolphin fan I have high hopes for my team but somehow always get let down

The AFC East is going to be tough this season because on top of playing each other twice we also play the AFC West and NFC North

Some big Powerhouses playing each other a lot this year

As much as I want to see Brady fail I think with his improved WR core they will shine like always. If you want to win the AFC East you won't be able to do it on the ground that's for damn sure

ManInTheMirror
07-07-2014, 11:04 PM
It would appear to me as if EJ is currently the most dealt player in our b/s/t section. I've noticed this for a couple weeks now.

Jef
07-08-2014, 08:58 AM
thats a good point - everyone is simultaneously scared of missing out on current prices (because they are high) and...current prices (because they are low).

ManInTheMirror
07-24-2014, 12:41 AM
Well, we may need to prepare for greatness, men :eek:

1q1jCHgwD6s

lagalaxyfan23
07-24-2014, 02:17 AM
Well, we may need to prepare for greatness, men :eek:

1q1jCHgwD6s

That was a sweet catch, I must admit, but that would have been picked off by the safety in a real game. That stumble would give the safety plenty of time to cut off the route.

relentless1
07-24-2014, 06:51 AM
If Manuel doesn't get hurt again and make good game management decisions, then I can see the Bills at least making the playoffs. Last three seasons they've been 6-10 and shooting themselves in the foot in at least two games each season that they could/should have won. They need to get over that hump.

Joshedollaz
07-24-2014, 09:31 AM
I got EJ's TTT Hand Stamp and some nice NT and other RPA's, one can only hope he has an awesome season, but not a bad investment on your part.

JacobCYE
07-24-2014, 10:41 AM
I'm a believer in EJ. I bought a ton of his stuff up last year and am still holding. I think there are going to be definite increases in price weather he has a great season or not. Just needs to string together a couple of nice plays and get that hype train rolling.