Ringside Boxing Dud

[cruiserdaddy7]

Check out eBay item # 300439507817

Again, I know a few people on here love the product, but after opening my case I became bored with the 2 per box $20 autographs and a cheap event worn swatch.
The above isnt my card but its a solid example of how even the best cards in this product arent in demand. This thread isnt meant to offend people, just simply point out this stuff isnt as strong as people like to think.

[CaptainBOHICA]

oh boy. you done did it now cruiser.

[McMBAMM]

Wen Guru pulls in $1000-1200 on the Ali auto he pulled, he maybeg to differ.

[ND3]

Doubt that McNuggets. The ALI autos out of this stuff are dropping like Cbo with the F bombs!

[McMBAMM]

McNuggets?Did someone skip dinner?

[cruiserdaddy7]

Careful captain you know how the regime can get around here. McBambam I never said anything about the Ali. The Ali and Tyson are the ONLY two guys in this product who have autos that bring over $100, aside from a cut. Seeing a 1/1 case hit type Moniker bring $18 from a 2k case doesnt say much for demand.

[Stats]

I would buy a piece like that for more than $20 in a heartbeat, you should have posted the link earlier! :rolleyes:

[mwheeler27]

I would buy a piece like that for more than $20 in a heartbeat, you should have posted the link earlier! :rolleyes:

I keep saying this exact thing...people don't know to look for some of this stuff.

I bought a pretty nice cut auto on ebay the other day, and had the link not been posted in this forum, I would have never seen it. Just think if I wasn't in this forum between the time the link was posted and the auction ended, (which is the case for the majority of the collecting world), I wouldn't have known about the card in order to bid on it. Obviously, it would have sold for less. I bid more for the card than it sold for, so also think about what if other collectors would have stumbled across that auction and outbid me? The card would have sold for more.

Just because a card doesn't bring as much money as you think it should on ebay, doesn't mean a particular card and/or product is a dud. It might mean that, but it also might mean the seller did a poor job selling the card. I have said it before and will say it again, ebay is NOT the only place to sell cards, and in a lot of cases, it's not even close to the best.

The VAST majority of the cards in my collection were not obtained from ebay. In fact, I sincerely doubt that 5% of my collection came from ebay.

[Magicman32]

I also would not call this a dud. Just because a card set is not a money maker to flip, doesn't mean that it is a dud. I had zero boxing cards in my PC before this came out and will buy up star autos all day between $20-$40. I am also going after a Frazier auto which have been going around $70-$75 so that I can start my collection. Isn't that what this set is about? Getting people who have never before collected boxing cards into the hobby?

I feel sorry for those of you that are losing a ton of money trying to flip this stuff.....but for those of us buying, it is a nicely done set that is very affordable.

[Zerokruel]

I keep saying this exact thing...people don't know to look for some of this stuff.

I bought a pretty nice cut auto on ebay the other day, and had the link not been posted in this forum, I would have never seen it. Just think if I wasn't in this forum between the time the link was posted and the auction ended, (which is the case for the majority of the collecting world), I wouldn't have known about the card in order to bid on it. Obviously, it would have sold for less. I bid more for the card than it sold for, so also think about what if other collectors would have stumbled across that auction and outbid me? The card would have sold for more.

Just because a card doesn't bring as much money as you think it should on ebay, doesn't mean a particular card and/or product is a dud. It might mean that, but it also might mean the seller did a poor job selling the card. I have said it before and will say it again, ebay is NOT the only place to sell cards, and in a lot of cases, it's not even close to the best.

The VAST majority of the cards in my collection were not obtained from ebay. In fact, I sincerely doubt that 5% of my collection came from ebay.

You got the Marciano Onyx, didn't you? :devil:

I couldn't get back in time to reply to the counter. :(

[mwheeler27]

You got the Marciano Onyx, didn't you? :devil:

I couldn't get back in time to reply to the counter. :(

No, I assumed you won that card. :(

[Zerokruel]

No, I assumed you won that card. :(

I had a wedding that day, and I couldn't get back to the computer in time to reply. Sad part is, it sold for $16 more than I offered him. :mad:

[mwheeler27]

I had a wedding that day, and I couldn't get back to the computer in time to reply. Sad part is, it sold for $16 more than I offered him. :mad:

I'm sorry to hear you didn't win it. I honestly thought you were the winner. That's a good card to own. Perhaps it will be re-listed in the near future. That happens a lot.

[guru]

I am very please with my break of this product. :)!

[matts_cardz]

glad I didnt buy any of this sheet :)!

[Zerokruel]

glad I didnt buy any of this sheet :)!

Soccer hooligan! :p

[matts_cardz]

Soccer hooligan! :p

sooooooo :p

[tonedef2oo8]

Sorry for your loss, but its comes to show when you buy a product who inserts a person closely involved with one of the biggest forging rings ever you get what you get. I hope they had Chuck Wepner sign for free considering all the ali fans he stole from back in the day selling fake alis from the operation bullpen ring that he claimed to have mailed to ali directly.

Operation Bullpen: The Inside Story - Scamming Ali and Sly (http://operationbullpen.com/excerpt3.html)

[mwheeler27]

its comes to show when you buy a product who inserts a person closely involved with one of the biggest forging rings ever you get what you get.

What a dumb comment. Do you honestly think Ringside Boxing included this guy because of the forging ring? Or do you think they included him because of what he did in the physical "boxing" ring? :rolleyes:

It never ceases to amaze me how much jealousy there is in the world. Obviously people like this product, both collectors and box breakers alike, because they have both said so in writing, in this forum.

Not everyone likes any given product. That's obvious and is a fact. But for those that don't like a product and express their opinion, they should at least say something more relevant than the comment above. What a joke of a comment.

[Zerokruel]

I did not realize he was in the product. I'm not going to get involved in this, if it turns into a pissing contest - however I would just like to state my opinion.

I don't think Mr. Wepner should have been in any product. I understand they wre trying to build a checklist of big name boxers and what not, but I don't think he should have been in this set. To me, I think having your card made and something of that nature is a reward - and he is not deserving for what he did do the people of the boxing community. To be in the same boxing set as Ali, the man who he was most infamous for counterfeiting? I dont know, just not something I would like. But that is my opinion - and I still like my rainbow!

[mwheeler27]

I did not realize he was in the product. I'm not going to get involved in this, if it turns into a pissing contest - however I would just like to state my opinion.

I don't think Mr. Wepner should have been in any product. I understand they wre trying to build a checklist of big name boxers and what not, but I don't think he should have been in this set. To me, I think having your card made and something of that nature is a reward - and he is not deserving for what he did do the people of the boxing community. To be in the same boxing set as Ali, the man who he was most infamous for counterfeiting? I dont know, just not something I would like. But that is my opinion - and I still like my rainbow!

You still like your rainbow. I'm assuming that you also like the product then. Therefore including Wepner in this product doesn't make the product itself any less appealing to you.

Just because Wepner did something he shouldn't have done, and then ends up being in a card product for his efforts in a boxing ring shouldn't take away from the rest of the product and all the players in it. That's the point I'm trying to make, and I think you agree with me. Of course it's okay if you don't though.

[Zerokruel]

You still like your rainbow. I'm assuming that you also like the product then. Therefore including Wepner in this product doesn't make the product itself any less appealing to you.

Just because Wepner did something he shouldn't have done, and then ends up being in a card product for his efforts in a boxing ring shouldn't take away from the rest of the product and all the players in it. That's the point I'm trying to make, and I think you agree with me. Of course it's okay if you don't though.


It's not that it takes away. I just don't think he should be rewarded with his actions. I do enjoy picking up the singles (I still will). I'm not a huge boxing fan, but I like certain boxers from the 50's and earlier. I pure vintage! :D

So I'm not sure if I agree 100%, but I think I agree sort of. I just think the set would have been fine with out him.

[mwheeler27]

I just think the set would have been fine with out him.

I won't disagree with this statement.

[coclarkson]

It's not that it takes away. I just don't think he should be rewarded with his actions.


you're the guy who has the lamotta rainbow? do you think lamotta belongs in this set after throwing a fight? to me throwing a fight is cheating, and cheating in professional sports is a disgrace. and this action is alot worse than what wepner did

[Zerokruel]

you're the guy who has the lamotta rainbow? do you think lamotta belongs in this set after throwing a fight? to me throwing a fight is cheating, and cheating in professional sports is a disgrace. and this action is alot worse than what wepner did

Didn't read the part where I am not a huge boxing fan? :D

Just so were clear, I actually didn't know. I really don't follow boxing at all. I just know who the greats were.

Also, how do you feel about Joe Jackson and Pete Rose?

[tonedef2oo8]

What a dumb comment. Do you honestly think Ringside Boxing included this guy because of the forging ring? Or do you think they included him because of what he did in the physical "boxing" ring? :rolleyes:

It never ceases to amaze me how much jealousy there is in the world. Obviously people like this product, both collectors and box breakers alike, because they have both said so in writing, in this forum.

Not everyone likes any given product. That's obvious and is a fact. But for those that don't like a product and express their opinion, they should at least say something more relevant than the comment above. What a joke of a comment.

Good job homer, we get it you are in bed with them. Why is it when I say this its a joke, yet someone else agrees with it you turn face like the good spokesperson you are. So which is it, is it a joke that they paid a known forger or is it understandable. I didn't know someone who was a 35-14 fighter who literally turned the autograph hobby on its face was such a must have in a boxing set.

My point is you talk all this smack how they are the greatest thing since sliced break yet they pay a person who nearly destroyed the hobby to be in there. There is a thing on the internet called research, the people making these cards should try it sometime. And while yes the man was a part of boxing history by fighting Ali but there is a thing called doing the right thing and not award a man who after boxing has been a piece of garbage not caring about the hobby Dr. Price is PAYING him to be a part of, along with a real legend who was also robbed by him (Ali).

But of course mwheeler will say that is jealousy to help sell some boxes.

[mwheeler27]

Good job homer, we get it you are in bed with them.

My point is you talk all this smack how they are the greatest thing since sliced break.

But of course mwheeler will say that is jealousy to help sell some boxes.

You haven't got a clue what you're talking about. :rolleyes:

So let's see...Angelo Dundee said, and I quote, “Ringside Boxing – Round One is the best thing that happened to boxing since boxing gloves”.

...and then you say what you do. :rolleyes:

Dundee is probably a lot more knowledgeable than you, and you know what, he thinks this is a good product. Hmmm, so who do we believe? You...HA! I don't think so. :rolleyes:

I'm not the only one that likes this product. In fact, there are more people that like it than not, according to testimonials. Including a guy that did harm to the hobby does not take away from how wonderful this set is to collectors. You might not like it because he's in it. A few others might not like it either, but there are many, many collectors that do. To deny it is foolish and wrong.

It's okay that you don't like it. Hopefully you understand that it's okay if others do happen to like it. :)!

[tonedef2oo8]

You haven't got a clue what you're talking about. :rolleyes:

So let's see...Angelo Dundee said, and I quote, “Ringside Boxing – Round One is the best thing that happened to boxing since boxing gloves”.

...and then you say what you do. :rolleyes:

Dundee is probably a lot more knowledgeable than you, and you know what, he thinks this is a good product. Hmmm, so who do we believe? You...HA! I don't think so. :rolleyes:

I'm not the only one that likes this product. In fact, there are more people that like it than not, according to testimonials. Including a guy that did harm to the hobby does not take away from how wonderful this set is to collectors. You might not like it because he's in it. A few others might not like it either, but there are many, many collectors that do. To deny it is foolish and wrong.

It's okay that you don't like it. Hopefully you understand that it's okay if others do happen to like it. :)!

All that typing and not one point made. I was referring to the company who made these not the cards themselves. So all that typing is moot. But I will acknowledge your back tracking as thankfully you are finally realizing they mucked up. Are some of the cards nice sure, but the best hit "Ali autograph" looks painted left handed by a person who is right handed (not the autographs the ARTWORK). And to top it all off we reward a known forger with a pay check to be in this product. I bet you guys didn't realize you didn't even have to pay Ali, you could have just sent to Wepner and he could have someone forge them for you.