Upper Deck Avenger Age of Ultron???

[kobe824]

I see it has a March release date...probably will be pushed back I'm guessing...anyone know of any confirmed signers yet? It's intriguing if they get some of the big players..

[Brobocop]

I spoke to Chris Carlin at an Upper Deck event at my LCS about this. He told me they had recently hired someone who has a good track record at getting some of the actors that are harder to sit down and sign cards. I dunno if they'll have time to get some of the bigger names. I was also sure to tell him how disappointed I was about the whole Chris Evans sell sheet fiasco for Captain America The Winter Soldier. Fingers crossed.

[Bryanjs14]

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/non-sports/806698-avengers-2-age-ultron.html

[therorkstar]

I was also sure to tell him how disappointed I was about the whole Chris Evans sell sheet fiasco for Captain America The Winter Soldier. Fingers crossed.

What was the issue?

[Jedi1823]

What was the issue?

On the original sell sheet for Winter Soldier, there was an autographed relic of Chris Evans. Of course Evans didn't sign for the set, and only 5 actors wound up signing, Smulders, Atwell, GSP, Cooper, and Sebastian Stan.

[terrymcginnis]

couple more weeks.

[gdelan1]

What was the issue?

here's a pic of it

[gdelan1]

So, $120/box is the going rate for this?

[terrymcginnis]

looks like it. same as thor, it is still $96 on UD's site and $120 on other sites

[Spider-Fan]

Ooooopppppss

[kerg]

Ooooopppppss

?? What was the oops to?

[arek]

Looking at Amazon, all the AoU related books are coming out in May. Can't imagine this set will be out this month, maybe late April

[AusRam]

Looking at Amazon, all the AoU related books are coming out in May. Can't imagine this set will be out this month, maybe late April

I tried to get an update on the release date from UD via Twitter, but all they'd say is "they were working on the details"

Seriously though, how hard would it be for card companies to keep collectors up to date with a release calendar on their website or blog or something ?

[Spider-Fan]

?? What was the oops to?

I posted something to the wrong thread, but you can't just delete it. Have to leave 10 characters in it's place...

Looking at Amazon, all the AoU related books are coming out in May. Can't imagine this set will be out this month, maybe late April

What "books"?

I tried to get an update on the release date from UD via Twitter, but all they'd say is "they were working on the details"

Seriously though, how hard would it be for card companies to keep collectors up to date with a release calendar on their website or blog or something ?

It's not difficult. Other smaller companies do it. It's just that they don't have to, so why bother? It's not like you are going to boycott the product because of this. They know exactly what they can get away with.

[AusRam]

It's not difficult. Other smaller companies do it. It's just that they don't have to, so why bother? It's not like you are going to boycott the product because of this. They know exactly what they can get away with.

True, but it would probably help people commit to presells and the like if they were actually kept in the loop a bit...

[Spider-Fan]

I don't disagree with you. I really wish they would be better about sharing information. But they have no incentive to do so. In fact, if they were more open about stuff, some of their sets would probably suffer from a pre-sale point of view. Fact of the matter is, even the weaker Marvel Movie products (think CA:WS where none of the main characters signed) are doing pretty decently.

[arek]

What "books"?


Art of AoU, and the kiddy picture books and pop up books are all out in May.

[arek]

Release date is now may 6th according to another site

[Hippiekmt]

Release date is now may 6th according to another site

The dealers direct UD account page has the release in May...it's actually been May for a while now...it'll be release in conjunction with the movie....I believe May 6th is the date on the account page.

[therorkstar]

Wholesale prices dropped from $98/box to $84/box.

[arek]

Is the retail price set by Upper Deck?

[AusRam]

Wholesale prices dropped from $98/box to $84/box.

Hope that doesn't mean the set's not shaping up to be as good as they hoped ???

[kerg]

Hope that doesn't mean the set's not shaping up to be as good as they hoped ???

number of packs dropped from 24 to 20 I believe so, I think that accounts for the price drop wholesale side.

[terrymcginnis]

Wholesale prices dropped from $98/box to $84/box.

any way this price is available from somewhere per box upon release? or only in bulk?

[kerg]

any way this price is available from somewhere per box upon release? or only in bulk?

For the most part, from a distributor if you have a brick and mortar store (UD requirement)

[terrymcginnis]

picture of the box:

[nabzy28]

Well, I can see the "2" memorabilia cards per box right on the top. Artist sketch cards on the front panel.

[AusRam]

Well, I can see the "2" memorabilia cards per box right on the top. Artist sketch cards on the front panel.

But looks like no mention of Autographs ?? Odd??

Cap America TWS had "Get two Memorabilia and one Autograph or Sketch per box" on it... unless this a retail box we're looking at ???

[Igman7]

Looks like it says Hobby upper left of Hulk

[kerg]

Well, I can see the "2" memorabilia cards per box right on the top. Artist sketch cards on the front panel.

And collect 8 piece inserts to spell Avengers.

Everything I've seen for preorders is single, dual or triple auto cards.

[terrymcginnis]

yeah it says hobby. but doesn't mention any guarantee of a sketch, actor autograph, or comic autograph. there are suppose to be mem autos though.

[Spider-Fan]

The UDE movie insert formula of 2 fabric plus one auto or sketch hasn't changed since iron man 2, I don't see it changing now.

[AusRam]

The UDE movie insert formula of 2 fabric plus one auto or sketch hasn't changed since iron man 2, I don't see it changing now.

You're probably right, just hope nothing's changed...

[bpmock]

Underneath the line about sketch cards does it say 1sketch per pack, 20 packs per box?

[AusRam]

Underneath the line about sketch cards does it say 1sketch per pack, 20 packs per box?

I *think* that's the usual "5 cards per pack, 20 packs per box" blurb...

[AusRam]

Bigger version of the pic... Not liking how there's no mention of the Auto's at all....

[gdelan1]

No sketches mentioned anywhere online, just costumes, actor autos, and comic creator autos

[AusRam]

There's definitely sketches - it's on the box and I've seen blanks of the sketch card - it was posted by an artist a while ago...

[nabzy28]

No sketches mentioned anywhere online, just costumes, actor autos, and comic creator autos

There are sketches. You'd have to dig deep on some artists' fb/instagram accounts, etc. They had the blanks for what seems like quite a while now. I mean, this product was originally slated for release 2 weeks ago, which everyone knew wouldn't happen, so I imagine they were supposed to have the sketch cards back to UD by or around March 1st.

[gdelan1]

Oh, just zoomed in on the box. I feel unobservant.

[gdelan1]

I'll probably grab a box of this.

[terrymcginnis]

apparently there are relic autos and triple autos. wondering if they count with the regular usual 1:288 autograph odds? seemed winter soldier had singles and doubles both pulled in similar amounts.

[kerg]

apparently there are relic autos and triple autos. wondering if they count with the regular usual 1:288 autograph odds? seemed winter soldier had singles and doubles both pulled in similar amounts.

Last few releases have been better than 1 auto per case. Some of the Thor Dark World ones had up to 5.

Also, there are 20 packs a box (assuming 12 box/case) so 1:240 if it was one to a case.

[MankindRam]

I drew some sketches for this project. No idea if they were approved and this is also the last Marvel Set you'll see artwork from me on for quite some time.

[therorkstar]

I pre-ordered two cases, I'm not liking my odds.

[orfew]

I only ordered 3 boxes so I am liking my odds even less. I will still take a chance and see if I my luck kicks in.

[buckycap]

I'm not sure what everyone is so worried about. This is the same format UD has been doing with Marvel movies releases for awhile now. 3 hits per box, 2 memorabilia with the third hit being either a sketch, comic creator auto or actor auto. Average actor autos have been 2-3 per case. Plates and patches added as extra "hits". I haven't seen anything yet that would be a change to this format. If anything I would guess more actor autos per case with singles, duals, triples and auto memoribilia announced. I also read that UD hired a new guy that has a better track record with getting actor signatures.
Even if they just went with stickers that were signed for previous sets you'd see autos by Jeremy Renner, Chris Hemsworth, Cobie Smulders, Haley Atwell, Tom Hiddleston, Idris Elba. I'd be happy with a couple new signers added to that lineup for AOU.

UD has always been slow with actor signing announcements. We probably won't see any type of announcement until next month.

The only thing that really worries me is the price increase..............

[robomole]

I have 2 cases preordered myself. Which for someone in my economic bracket I must be insane haha. But with single, double, triple, and memorabilia autos announced, I can only ASSume they have quite a large lineup planned. I can see how it's worrisome they didn't promote the autos on the front of the box. But this is Avengers Age of Ultron! This is the one set UD shouldn't want to screw up, and Avengers Assemble was petty impressive at the time. I took a gamble and I hope I can get a few cool autos for my PC and hopefully replenish most of the dip in my savings account with the rest haha.

[arek]

Watched the movie this morning. Now the question is should I order more boxes of cards or just buy singles? I have two boxes on order

[Bryanjs14]

Anyone freaking out about Autos should just chill. Its just a mock up, and its still advertised everywhere as having autos (single dual triple and auto mem) Nothing to worry about. I have 3 cases coming and I cannot wait to open.

[kerg]

Anyone freaking out about Autos should just chill.

http://www.zgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Kevin-Bacon-All-is-well-remain-calm-300x273.jpg

[robomole]

I wonder when we'll start seeing mockups. I imagine we aren't much more than a month from release.... I hope.

[Bryanjs14]

I wonder when we'll start seeing mockups. I imagine we aren't much more than a month from release.... I hope.

Based on UD past history I would say no. Everything we will see will be on release day.

[gdelan1]

I'll probably order a box or two

[buckycap]

I emailed both UD Quality control and UD store customer service this week asking for a release date and signer information and both replied that they have not confirmed a release date yet. The signer info. question was ignored by both. I guess we should be used to this with UD.........

[AceGambit3]

I wonder when we'll start seeing mockups. I imagine we aren't much more than a month from release.... I hope.

not like it would matter we'd just get mock ups of cards to get us excited then when product released none will have been actually put in product

[Cujobyte]

Cost per case on this set is $972 per case. Those buying in for $1400 are crazy IMO. I sincerely hope the set tanks, but that's only because I haven't received a good price on it lol.

[nabzy28]

Yep. If they do have Spader and Olsen in here, I'm waiting to pick them up for, at least, 6 to 8 months... unless they appear to be SP in any way. Everything that wasn't SP in Thor fell anywhere from 30% to 50% within a year. Some quicker than that. At $1400/case, you need to be pulling a Scarlet, Downey Jr. or Evans + 3 others in every case. I'm sure they'll SP wardrobe cards so, no matter what, the early breaks should still recoup quite a bit of that cost. It's what might happen after that first few weeks that might leave people hanging.

[Igman7]

Cost per case on this set is $972 per case. Those buying in for $1400 are crazy IMO. I sincerely hope the set tanks, but that's only because I haven't received a good price on it lol.

Yeah, I am looking at $1200 and trying to figure out if it is worth it..no stinking clue. I sold through fairly well on the first movie but I figure that this release has to be printed in higher numbers based on the performance of that set as well as GOTG. :eatit:

[robomole]

I just got back from the movie and it was fantastic! I liked it much better than the first Avengers. Super pumped for the cards! The potential for autographs and costumes are pretty amazing. I hope the autos are as plentiful as they can be for an Upper Deck release. Hopefully 3+ a case.

[pinhead767]

I liked the movie, but it wasn't as fun as the first one. I thought shoehorning in a romantic sub-plot was a mistake.

Can't wait to see what autos they get though. I doubt they'll get Scarlett or Chris Evans, but I wouldn't mind picking up an Elizabeth Olsen or Paul Bettany if they could get him.

[gdelan1]

I actually liked it better than the first one

[Spider-Fan]

I enjoyed it a lot. Not ready to compare to the first one just yet, although I thought Loki was a better villain... Anyway... having stayed away from reading much about the movie, I was really surprised by the number of 'cameo' type appearances. Autograph potential is absolutely through the roof. Time will tell.

[baytowntex]

from Pence's Facebook
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/s2048x2048/11160060_10205402804088540_244187289496947850_o.jpg

[Spider-Fan]

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!

[tvd2012]

That is absolutely awesome!

[Cujobyte]

I hope the cases drop to $1100 ish then I'm a buyer, but not at $1275-1400. I think those busting at 1300-1400 will be disappointed.

[BHotz]

I hope the cases drop to $1100 ish then I'm a buyer, but not at $1275-1400. I think those busting at 1300-1400 will be disappointed.

Still way, way too early to tell, imo.

Avengers Assemble I surprised many with the extensive costume (which were a huge hit) checklist, very good sketch quality, and quality autos @ 2 per case. IF Avengers Assemble II surprises too, then >$1400 is a real posibility. I haven't pre-ordered anything yet so I'm not talking this up on purpose, lol.

We'll see. Love the Pence stuff... just hope they parlay that into good costume/autos.

[buckycap]

Just so no one is confused, the Pence sketches are not sketch cards for this set. The are PSC's.

[gdelan1]

I enjoyed it a lot. Not ready to compare to the first one just yet, although I thought Loki was a better villain... Anyway... having stayed away from reading much about the movie, I was really surprised by the number of 'cameo' type appearances. Autograph potential is absolutely through the roof. Time will tell.
Definitely puts to bed the rumors that aos is non in the MCU.

[Spider-Fan]

Just so no one is confused, the Pence sketches are not sketch cards for this set. The are PSC's.

Haha, should have known. UDE NE error does actor likenesses.


Definitely puts to bed the rumors that aos is non in the MCU.

I never even heard those rumors, but wouldn't have given stock to them anyway. Like the rumors that Agents of SHIELD is just Coulson'so dream before he dies... Just goes against everything going they've been saying for the last few years.

[Bryanjs14]

This set has massive potential for signers. Obviously we are going to get a lot of repeat previous signers but the amount of new auto possibilities is endless...

Anthony Mackie, James Spader, Aaron Taylor Johnson, Paul Bettany, Andy Serkis, Linda Cardellini, Elizabeth Olson, plus all the big name Avengers who have not previous signed... ScarJo, Ruffalo, Evans, Sam Jackson...there are tons more I could list off. I hope upper deck has some new additions to the signers list. I wonder if we will see "expansion" autos from Winter Soldier, Iron Man 3, Thor Dark World and Guardians in this release the way they did with Avengers Assemble.

[AceGambit3]

This set has massive potential for signers. Obviously we are going to get a lot of repeat previous signers but the amount of new auto possibilities is endless...

Anthony Mackie, James Spader, Aaron Taylor Johnson, Paul Bettany, Andy Serkis, Linda Cardellini, Elizabeth Olson, plus all the big name Avengers who have not previous signed... ScarJo, Ruffalo, Evans, Sam Jackson...there are tons more I could list off. I hope upper deck has some new additions to the signers list. I wonder if we will see "expansion" autos from Winter Soldier, Iron Man 3, Thor Dark World and Guardians in this release the way they did with Avengers Assemble.

yeah while I have liked the last couple UD Marvel releases for the movies, I still stand by the opinion that if Rittenhouse still was making these sets we'd have had some amazing autographs in these sets (and on card too). Only knock I would probably say would be likelihood of duals, triples would be non-existent. I just feel UD may disappoint us considering the potential for the set , I'd love to be proven wrong though

[terrymcginnis]

i talked to a UD representative at a show today. he said release date is looking at May 20th right now. he was unaware if there is a retail version or if it is hobby exclusive.

[Igman7]

The big question is if he has any clue on the autograph list

[terrymcginnis]

nope. he didn't know too much... said marvel is extremely particular when/how things are released etc...

kinda a bummer they can tell you tons about their future sport releases

[Spider-Fan]

i talked to a UD representative at a show today. he said release date is looking at May 20th right now. he was unaware if there is a retail version or if it is hobby exclusive.

There was an UpperDeck rep at the show today? Honestly I didn't bother looking, but yesterday it was an empty table with a manilla envelope on it. About as useful as a guy who doesn't know about thier upcoming g non-sports releases.

[terrymcginnis]

not the non-sport show!

it was a sports card one in canada.

[Spider-Fan]

not the non-sport show!

it was a sports card one in canada.

haha... I guess the UDE guy was double booked ;)

[WrestlingAutos1]

Does anyone that what the cost of the Hobby box will be? My LCS told me his is going to sell them for $159.99 per box.

His Thor movie Hobby boxes are $129.99 and his Captain America Winter Soldier boxes are $114.99 per box.

[VinnyH]

Does anyone that what the cost of the Hobby box will be? My LCS told me his is going to sell them for $159.99 per box.

His Thor movie Hobby boxes are $129.99 and his Captain America Winter Soldier boxes are $114.99 per box.
My bet would be that they will be cheaper from Blowout. $159.99 seems high right off the bat.

IMHO,
Vinny

[gdelan1]

There's a place online you can find them for $120

[Spider-Fan]

$160 is definitely high, but unless you have a connection I think you are looking at $110+ at least at the start.

[kerg]

His Thor movie Hobby boxes are $129.99 and his Captain America Winter Soldier boxes are $114.99 per box.

I'd find a new LCS.

[terrymcginnis]

my LCS has them for $106 US right now on his site. not sure if it will stick.

[buckycap]

Looks like retail has hit.

[terrymcginnis]

is the retail like guardians w/o any hits or are there autos like with thor and cap retail / costume cards like avengers retail?

[buckycap]

No hits in them.

[Archifou]

Some images of the base set:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTQxWDE2MDA=/z/lJIAAOSwPhdVSlxH/$_57.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTUx/z/iisAAOSwEeFVSvHn/$_57.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTUx/z/iisAAOSwEeFVSvHn/$_57.JPG

[hannahs1]

I got two cases

[buckycap]

Base cards look nice. Does the wrapper say anything about any retailer exclusives?

[Archifou]

I take this image from eBay. Unfortunately I don't know.

[gdelan1]

I know somewhere that I can get a case for about $117/box ($1400) if anyone wants to split it up with me. I can afford 2 boxes of the 12.

[tvd2012]

Is the 5/28 release date on the other site accurate?

[finfangfan]

Is the 5/28 release date on the other site accurate?

I wonder to what extent this set and Marvel Retro 2015 pretty much being released on top of each other will effect the sales of both sets?

[Spider-Fan]

I wonder to what extent this set and Marvel Retro 2015 pretty much being released on top of each other will effect the sales of both sets?

Although there are people like me that collect both the movie and the comic sets, I think, in general, the movie sets have a much broader appeal so I don't thinks sales of Avengers: AOU will be all that much impacted by the retro product. Maybe a little the other way around. On the other hand, they both seem pretty overpriced right out of the gate, so I'll be surprised if either sells like crazy unless there are a couple exciting surprises in early breaks (premium signers in Avengers, loaded boxes in Retro, etc..).

[ccjorda]

Update on release date:

I was just notify that the release date for Marvel Avengers Age of Ultron HOBBY trading cards was push forward to May 18th, 2015. Great news. I can't wait to get my 4 cases.

[PrinceVegeta]

I wonder to what extent this set and Marvel Retro 2015 pretty much being released on top of each other will effect the sales of both sets?

I am seeing Marvel Retro 2015 is being pushed to Jul. 8th, 2015??

[Cujobyte]

Still hope this stuff drops. Buyer at $1000-1100 but not at these prices, and I'll just boycott buying singles. Ashame as I have every actor auto since the original avengers release.

[kobe824]

So no auto checklist yet?

[Bryanjs14]

So no auto checklist yet?

you won't see an auto checklist until the product is opened and people figure out the signers for themselves. UD never puts out checklists.

[Archifou]

They do put checklist but after releases:

Upper Deck Sports | Collector's Zone Trading Card Card Checklists (http://sports.upperdeck.com/collectorszone/mastersets.aspx?s=0)

[kobe824]

Update on release date:

I was just notify that the release date for Marvel Avengers Age of Ultron HOBBY trading cards was push forward to May 18th, 2015. Great news. I can't wait to get my 4 cases.

Anyone else heard this? All major sites still showing the 28th...

[buckycap]

Every date I'm seeing is 5/28.

[ccjorda]

Apparently, I was misinformed when I was contacted about the release. When, I called today, they said that they were sorry about the confusion. So sorry, for the wrong information guys.

[Archifou]

It seems that are 4 different types of insets for a total of 60 cards

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDg4WDcyMA==/z/aTYAAOSwBLlVUoN3/$_12.JPG

[terrymcginnis]

two weeks.

[kerg]

two weeks.

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.4aN9x04S1n1oy3KYby2xBQ&pid=15.1&P=0

[Fenian95]

Bought a 31 card retail fat pack today just to get the Black Widow 3D card that was included with it. Other 3D cards I saw were Nick Fury, Iron Fist(?), The Abomination(??), and Iron Man before I found the Widow one.

[Igman7]

I saw those as well, they are actually from the 3D set and are not a retail jumbo exclusive.

[baytowntex]

...............

[Archifou]

Now I see cases sell for more then $1500, what a mess :(

[kerg]

Now I see cases sell for more then $1500, what a mess :(

$1500-$1600 for a product we know nothing about.

Sign me up! :)!

God bless em' if they can get it. Maybe the entire cast will have signed. Triples autos of Hemsworth, Evans and Downey Jr are in it along with signed ScarJo memorabilia pieces.

But, alas, I doubt it. I'm sure there will be the usual autos, but given that, I don't see justifying the cost of a case.

Hope I'm wrong though. Would love to see a monster set.

[buckycap]

Some one in the comment section on cardboardconnection says he pulled a sketch card out of a 31 card jumbo pack.

[nabzy28]

Some one in the comment section on cardboardconnection says he pulled a sketch card out of a 31 card jumbo pack.

The few artists that have posted sketch cards, that I've seen, have all looked to be quite good. There's no way I'd plunk down ~$1500 for a case of this, though. If I'm going to drop that much, I'll just buy singles and get exactly what I want.

[Spider-Fan]

Some one in the comment section on cardboardconnection says he pulled a sketch card out of a 31 card jumbo pack.

Stranger things have happened, but...

I'm more likely to think he is not a regular card collector and pulled one of the concept art cards and just didn't know what to call it. Or possibly it was a 3D sktech card. Not sure how the 3D cards being inserted works. Haven't seen these in my area yet (and don't expect to, never saw GOTG jumbos). Who knows though, mistakes happen all the time.

[buckycap]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I don't think UD has ever put sketches in retail products.
I really wish UD would release the autograph signers. I know the signers for Cap:TWS was released quite a bit before release. Still wondering if the 5/28 release date isn't going to get pushed back again. UD would have to start shipping to retailers probably by Friday.

[terrymcginnis]

my wal-mart still has those jumbo GOTG packs of anybody needs one.

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I don't think UD has ever put sketches in retail products.
I really wish UD would release the autograph signers. I know the signers for Cap:TWS was released quite a bit before release. Still wondering if the 5/28 release date isn't going to get pushed back again. UD would have to start shipping to retailers probably by Friday.

I think Iron Man 2 had sketches in retail, but yeah that is the only product I can think of. Pretty sure the others just had wardrobes and/or autographs except GOTG which had neither. I did like how they were doing the retail exclusive sticker set for Avengers 1 and Iron Man 3. If they are going to have retail, I wish they'd do more to make it worth buying some.

[buckycap]

Just heard back from UD customer service on my release date and signer questions:

The release date is on 5/28/15. Here is the confirmed signors in this product:

Chris Hemsworth

Cobie Smulders

Thomas Kretschmann

Jeremy Renner

4 signers is not alot and 3 are repeats but those 4 are bad I guess....
A Thor and Hawkeye dual should be cool or a Thor, Hawkeye, Maria Hill triple.

[Spider-Fan]

haha... I just got an email from UDE with the same info

Yeah, I agree. Great names, but just adding more autographs of the same people. Would like to see some new names, especially some of the key talent that have done 5+ movies.

[nabzy28]

You've got to be kidding. So, two of them are probably only due to UD having a bunch of leftover stickers from previous sets. Wow.

[buckycap]

Would have been cool if they would have done what they did in the Avengers Assemble set and released new autos from previous moives. They could have done Cap:FA autos of Peggy, Bucky and Howard Stark since those actors all signed for CapTWS. Or a Loki Avengers signed card. Just another missed opp.
Hopefully there are auto/memorabilia cards from everyone unlike just the one Maria Hill from Cap:TWS.
And there really needs to be an increase in actor autos per case.

[buckycap]

Really wonder why 2 of the online vendors raised box prices by $10 just this week.

[nabzy28]

After seeing that list, the single autos would need to fall about 1:2 boxes to even be worth it. Only other thing I can think of would be inclusion of some insane, actual movie used, prop cards.

[buckycap]

Atleast 3 out of the 4 are really good autos. I guess that's the one good thing about a small auto list.

[nabzy28]

I guess I'm angry for absolutely no reason, as I have nothing spent on this. Was really hoping for Olsen and/or Spader. Don't they get Stan Lee to sign those artist auto cover cards? Why not a Stan Lee, even? Here's hoping the list is incomplete and we see some new names show up when it hits.

[buckycap]

I'm sure there will be Stan Lee auto covers cards. I wouldn't hold your breath on more signers being announced though. This list was straight from UD as a confirmed actor auto signed list. I can't remember any lists from previous releases having add-ons.

[buckycap]

And here's hoping there are printing plates to all of the cards unlike the GOTG release that just had plates on the comic cover cards.

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah I will probably be an exclusive secondary market purchaser on this set based on the current price. The content just doesn't justify the price unless there is a TON that hasn't been shared.

[kerg]

If there are only 4 autos, that is brutal.

On the bright side, I might have just saved a bunch of money.

[buckycap]

Have no idea as to what else they could announce. The only thing that would really help would be an increase in actor autos. Average on previous releases has been 2-3 per case with most having 2. If they can increase that to 4-5 per case that would help. Even with just the 4 signers with Single, Dual and triple along with auto/memo that should be an increase in possible auto cards from previous releases. But we won't know that until the first breaks start happening.

[kerg]

Really wonder why 2 of the online vendors raised box prices by $10 just this week.

The optimist in me says it is because they know something we don't and it will be an amazing set.

The pessimist in me says it is because they want to suck as much money out of the pre-hotness of the set because they know it will be a turd sandwich.

[Spider-Fan]

If there are only 4 autos, that is brutal.

On the bright side, I might have just saved a bunch of money.

Well... I'm sure they will have some creator autos, but I know that isn't what you meant.

Have no idea as to what else they could announce. The only thing that would really help would be an increase in actor autos. Average on previous releases has been 2-3 per case with most having 2. If they can increase that to 4-5 per case that would help. Even with just the 4 signers with Single, Dual and triple along with auto/memo that should be an increase in possible auto cards from previous releases. But we won't know that until the first breaks start happening.

I was thinking more along the lines of box topper or multi-panel sketches. Other things that could have significant secondary market value.

The optimist in me says it is because they know something we don't and it will be an amazing set.

The pessimist in me says it is because they want to suck as much money out of the pre-hotness of the set because they know it will be a turd sandwich.

I think, like 2014 Marvel Premier, the price increase has little to do with UDE/content and everything to do with the previous set. The Avengers Assemble set was hot and sealed box prices went up and up and never came down. I think retailers are banking on high demand for this product and jacking up prices right out of the gate. I don't know for sure, but I would guess MSRP is around $1000-$1100/case, just like GotG was.

[Cujobyte]

Now I see cases sell for more then $1500, what a mess :(

No, you see sellers asking for $1500. There's quite a difference.

[Cujobyte]

Just heard back from UD customer service on my release date and signer questions:

The release date is on 5/28/15. Here is the confirmed signors in this product:

Chris Hemsworth

Cobie Smulders

Thomas Kretschmann

Jeremy Renner

4 signers is not alot and 3 are repeats but those 4 are bad I guess....
A Thor and Hawkeye dual should be cool or a Thor, Hawkeye, Maria Hill triple.

WOW this is an absolute disgrace of an auto-line up (if this is indeed accurate). Soooo glad I did not buy into this set. Way to go Upper Deck for another "We want to be lazy and yet have collectors give us money" Set. Shameful.

[terrymcginnis]

3 of 4 are worth hundreds of dollars. not bad. still prefer the winter soldier auto list and the $60-75 price point it is at. will continue to break more of this instead.

[robomole]

Well that's very disappointing. I knew the risks going in with an Upper Deck product when I bought my 2 cases. I just thought for an Avengers title they would pull out all the stops. Hopefully with so few signers it doesn't mean there will only be 1 auto a case or something. Still excited to see the memorabilia cards and add some cool stuff to the PC.

[gdelan1]

Glad I didn't pull the trigger on it. Saving up for ghostbusters & penny dreadful

[pinhead767]

I was kinda hoping for an Olsen auto, even though I knew it was a slim chance. I'd have loved an Olsen/Bettany dual auto, but that was an even bigger fantasy. :D

[buckycap]

I don't think it's all doom and gloom. 3 of the autos are really good and the duals and triples should do very well. The price just need to get back down where it's supposed to be. Not at the inflated prices.

[nabzy28]

3 of 4 are worth hundreds of dollars. not bad. still prefer the winter soldier auto list and the $60-75 price point it is at. will continue to break more of this instead.

But, see, that's the problem. If they keep dumping more of the same with every movie these people are in, they'll be $50-$75 autographs in the future. Sure, they'll sell well right out of the gate, set collectors will have to have them. Most of the Thor: Dark World, as well as the Guardians (outside of the select SP Zoe stuff) are well below what they were the few months after release. In the grand scheme of things, from a purely collector standpoint, that might not necessarily be a bad thing. Reasonable prices for some big name Marvel character actors. For the people breaking product, though, they'll only get burned so many times before losing hundreds catches up.

[Spider-Fan]

Collectors like to get things cheap, yes, but it's a double edged sword. Collectors don't like the value of their collectibles to drop, regardless of their intent to sell.

[AusRam]

Disappointing news..

Really hope there's more signers than that....they couldn't even get any of the cameo stars who have signed before ?

[hobbystuff]

Technically there is 1 more autograph this time than the 1st Avengers movie product, the problem is that its the same three autographs.
The other autographs in the product were from the Thor and Captain America movies that were added.
The double & triple autos should maybe compensate for the lack of extra different signers this time.

Here is the last checklist:

BR Bruno Ricci [unreleased Captain America card]
CF Colm Feore [unreleased Thor card]
CH Chris Hemsworth
CS Cobie Smulders
IE Idris Elba [unreleased Thor card]
JA Jaimie Alexander [unreleased Thor card]
JR Jeremy Renner
KD Kat Dennings [unreleased Thor card]

[Cujobyte]

Technically there is 1 more autograph this time than the 1st Avengers movie product, the problem is that its the same three autographs.
The other autographs in the product were from the Thor and Captain America movies that were added.
The double & triple autos should maybe compensate for the lack of extra different signers this time.

Here is the last checklist:

BR Bruno Ricci [unreleased Captain America card]
CF Colm Feore [unreleased Thor card]
CH Chris Hemsworth
CS Cobie Smulders
IE Idris Elba [unreleased Thor card]
JA Jaimie Alexander [unreleased Thor card]
JR Jeremy Renner
KD Kat Dennings [unreleased Thor card]
Your post is very confusing quite honestly.

This checklist is the auto list from the first Avengers set, although I'm not sure on "Ricci". I only remember all the others. From my understanding there are only 4 auto's in this new set. So please explain your post, did you see new info? IF so, where?

[hobbystuff]

Your post is very confusing quite honestly.

This checklist is the auto list from the first Avengers set, although I'm not sure on "Ricci". I only remember all the others. From my understanding there are only 4 auto's in this new set. So please explain your post, did you see new info? IF so, where?

The checklist I indicated WAS from the first Avengers set, not the new one.
Just to show that there were actually only 3 different autographs from the Avengers movie.The other autographs were unreleased autographs from other movies that they added.

[gdelan1]

I think I'll just wait the 90 days & get in on some case breaks

[finfangfan]

I wonder what the delay was for on this set, if it wasn't to pad out the auto list? Since 3 of the 4 actor autos are possibly left over stickers from the first set, you'd think they would have released it to coincide with the movie opening to hit the peak buzz period.

As others have said, hopefully they put in some other autos from the other Marvel movies to pad things out a bit. If not, this set could be a bit of a money drain for case breakers.

[nabzy28]

Should have known they probably wouldn't get Spader. If he was willing to sign, I'd think somebody would have picked up The Blacklist long ago. Maybe some huge delays from a few artists held back release on this? I am pretty sure they had these sketch blanks way back in late 2014, though. Something has to give. SP wardrobe cards ain't gonna save this.

[VincentVegaFFF]

they couldn't even get any of the cameo stars who have signed before ?

Good question. Andy Serkis has signed many cards in the past, they couldn't get him for this for example or Linda Cardellini or someone like that?

[Spider-Fan]

I wonder what the delay was for on this set, if it wasn't to pad out the auto list? Since 3 of the 4 actor autos are possibly left over stickers from the first set, you'd think they would have released it to coincide with the movie opening to hit the peak buzz period.

As others have said, hopefully they put in some other autos from the other Marvel movies to pad things out a bit. If not, this set could be a bit of a money drain for case breakers.

Who knows what delays a set. It could have nothing to do with this set, like equipment maintenance, other sets getting priority on the equipment, etc. It could be pending approvals from Marvel on the images being used or the sketch cards being inserted (I get the impression Marvel doesn't make this a priority). Will just be one of those mysteries.

Not really worried about case breakers. They know the risk they are taking up front. You win some, you lose some. I doubt many big breakers preordered cases at anywhere near what the authorized Internet retailers are asking. If you had to pay that price, I think this was an obvious wait and see product. Worlds of potential, but still UDE producing it to consider.

[Bryanjs14]

I find it very hard to believe there will only be 4 signers, regardless of what the e-mail said.

UD has autos from characters that are in Avengers 2 (Idris Elba, Hayley Atwel just to name a couple) there is just no way they can have a release with only 4 different auto options. We will see in a week.

[robomole]

I find it very hard to believe there will only be 4 signers, regardless of what the e-mail said.

UD has autos from characters that are in Avengers 2 (Idris Elba, Hayley Atwel just to name a couple) there is just no way they can have a release with only 4 different auto options. We will see in a week.

I hope you're right. Just seems silly to have single, double, triple, and memorabilia autos with just 4 signers. They would have to sign a crap ton or they would be extremely limited.

[CollectorMan]

Ugh, that auto list is a rough. Repeat signers and only four total? It's not surprising UD has kept this list secret. If you haven't got my email yet Danny from Blowout, don't worry about it. I'm not interested in this product now.

[buckycap]

If you look back on previous UD MARVEL movie releases most had only 4 signers. IM2, IM3, Captain America TFA. Captain America TWS had 5. I highly doubt there will be anymore added.

[Jedi1823]

If you look back on previous UD MARVEL movie releases most had only 4 signers. IM2, IM3, Captain America TFA. Captain America TWS had 5. I highly doubt there will be anymore added.

Yeah we pretty much got spoiled with Avengers Assemble, Thor: The Dark World, and Guardians of the Galaxy.

Looking at the pattern, that means the checklist for Civil War should be amazing. Also with no more NCAA license Upper Deck should really be putting a lot more behind getting the big actors to sign, at least that's what should happen.

[arek]

Good question. Andy Serkis has signed many cards in the past, they couldn't get him for this for example or Linda Cardellini or someone like that?

I was thinking the same thing, Klaw was a fairly decent cameo and Andy Serkis would be a great addition to this set.

hopefully the Ant Man set will have a better lineup

[Spider-Fan]

I find it very hard to believe there will only be 4 signers, regardless of what the e-mail said.


Well... It said "Here is the confirmed signors in this product:" so its possible there might be one or two that make it in time for pack-out, but...
(1) The email was sent 9 days before street date. Not sure how long things like pack-out take, but there isn't much time there if they are being optimistic some additional stickers will arrive in time for processing.
(2) For IM3, the confirmed actor autographs they provided a week before release were what was in the set. For GOTG, they declined my inquiry about actor autographs up to the street date.
From those experiences, I feel like if they were optimistic about adding anybody that they would have declined my inquiry. The fact that they emailed me and buckycap on the same day tells me its probably pretty final. I don't have a crystal ball though, maybe they are just holding out. I don't see how that benefits them at all though.

On the bright side, at least the autographs they are delivering are main cast people. For IM3, I don't think they delivered a single highly desirable autograph. If they are upgrading Thor, Hawkeye, and Hill to memorabilia autographs vs straight autographs from the first movie, to me that is a nice tough. Doubtful it would be screen worn though, all that stuff ends up in a display case.

[BHotz]

Technically there is 1 more autograph this time than the 1st Avengers movie product, the problem is that its the same three autographs.
The other autographs in the product were from the Thor and Captain America movies that were added.
The double & triple autos should maybe compensate for the lack of extra different signers this time.

Here is the last checklist:

BR Bruno Ricci [unreleased Captain America card]
CF Colm Feore [unreleased Thor card]
CH Chris Hemsworth
CS Cobie Smulders
IE Idris Elba [unreleased Thor card]
JA Jaimie Alexander [unreleased Thor card]
JR Jeremy Renner
KD Kat Dennings [unreleased Thor card]

Exactly. Four, while disappointing, sounds plausible. Maybe UD thinks that instead of including unreleased autos, they are doing us a favor and giving us a new auto, lol.

Like nabzy mentioned, reprinting these autos might be doing more harm than good as the value/prices are going to reach a tipping point and crash some.

Personally, I'm hoping for amazing movie memorabilia along with above average sketches just like AA1. But I'm not sure AA2 can recoup the magic of AA1 unless there are a ton of hidden surprises especially with the increased price point. We'll see. If anything, maybe we get another toy for BF/Christmas sales :D.

[robomole]

If the signer list is complete, it will probably have a similar breakdown to Winter Soldier. One single auto and one special auto per case. Special being a mem, dual or triple.

[slidethefive]

Would any one dive in at $1200 per case? I have a chance to get one at that price point.

[Spider-Fan]

Would any one dive in at $1200 per case? I have a chance to get one at that price point.

Personally, although that is much better than what I've been seeing, I would not. Some others might disagree. I just haven't heard anything to justify paying more than $90/box, 1050/case (12 boxes) - opening prices for very strong products like Thor: DW and GotG.

[buckycap]

Would any one dive in at $1200 per case? I have a chance to get one at that price point.
If that was a delivered, out the door price I'd probably take the gamble. 36 hits guaranteed and if the patches and plates are considered extras like usual that's a few more hits. I'm still holding out hopes that the actor autos per case is increased.

[slidethefive]

If that was a delivered, out the door price I'd probably take the gamble. 36 hits guaranteed and if the patches and plates are considered extras like usual that's a few more hits. I'm still holding out hopes that the actor autos per case is increased.

Where did you find out about the 36 hits per case? Or is that just what they did with the last release.

[buckycap]

It's what they've done for years. 2 memo and an auto or sketch per box. Can't see that changing.

[slidethefive]

It's what they've done for years. 2 memo and an auto or sketch per box. Can't see that changing.

Thanks for the info! I haven't done much with Upper Deck except GOTG.

[Igman7]

Would any one dive in at $1200 per case? I have a chance to get one at that price point.

I just paid the balance of my case today at that price. Hoping for some good stuff. Hopefully, people aren't idiots and give base sets away. I can still get $20-$25 for the base from the first movie.

[Archifou]

In Canada with the dollars exchange it cost more then $1500 :(

[terrymcginnis]

got the single retail pack as well as the jumbo pack today.

[slidethefive]

So I've heard that UD is sold out. And online retailers are selling out as well. Good sign?

[PrinceVegeta]

So I've heard that UD is sold out. And online retailers are selling out as well. Good sign?

I am in a case at 1k and still not feeling great about this set. UD probably sold out on hype alone?

[slidethefive]

I am in a case at 1k and still not feeling great about this set. UD probably sold out on hype alone?

Wow. 1k. How did you swing that? You must have got it close to cost

[PrinceVegeta]

Wow. 1k. How did you swing that? You must have got it close to cost

I think cost is $972. Local deal with a shop that mainly deals in TCGs and doing lots of business there over the years

[slidethefive]

I think cost is $972. Local deal with a shop that mainly deals in TCGs and doing lots of business there over the years

That's awesome! Glad you got a good deal :)!

[Archifou]

I didn't get a good deal but I order a case, will shall see :)

[slidethefive]

I didn't get a good deal but I order a case, will shall see :)

How much are you in for Archifou?

[Archifou]

Over $1500 CAD

[terrymcginnis]

are the proposed triple autographs still being released?

[buckycap]

are the proposed triple autographs still being released?
There's no reason to think that they won't be released. Nothing from the original description has been changed so far and with 4 signers that will leave a few possibilities for triples.

[Archifou]

I have calculate about 14 combination from single, dual and triple autograph based on the 4 signers.

[buckycap]

I have calculate about 14 combination from single, dual and triple autograph based on the 4 signers.
So 6 more autograph cards than the 8 autos in Avengers Assemble.
Not bad. And really only a probable 2 of those 14 will just have just Baron Strucker's auto, who I would guess would be the less desireable pull. Every other card will have a Hawkeye, Thor or Maria Hill auto.

[buckycap]

I have calculate about 14 combination from single, dual and triple autograph based on the 4 signers.
And there are also the auto/memo cards with a potential for 4 more autographs.

[Archifou]

Just for the fun of it I have design some cards from the incoming movie based on the UD graphic standards.

Disclaimer:
Those are only mock ups from my wish list and they are not real Avengers cards from Upper Deck.

I include the UD logo to give a visual idea.
If there are any complaints about the UD logo on the backs and mock-ups, please removed the image.

http://s26.postimg.org/5400h1zux/Avengers2_Utron.jpg
http://s26.postimg.org/cipc9flqh/Avengers2.jpg

[buckycap]

Damn, those look like the could be real cards. I'd maybe take them out of this thread so they don't confuse anybody and make a seperate thread for them like the other members that make custom cards do. Maybe an "Archifo's Custom Cards" thread.

[Archifou]

Thanks buckycap!

[nabzy28]

I thought those were the real deal. I scrolled just far enough to see Spader and Olsen and got so excited. Then, nope. :( Those are some really excellent designs.

[Bryanjs14]

could it also be possible that while the e-mail says confirmed AVENGERS signers, there could be expansion autos for Thor Dark World, Cap Winter Soldier, Iron Man 3, and GotG, the same way there were expansion autos in the first Avengers? That is my hope. I just can't see this set doing well with just those 4 autos in it.

[buckycap]

It would be great but I highly doubt it. The AVENGERS Assemble set covered IM2, Thor, Cap:TFA and AVENGERS so the expansion autos made sense. This set just cover Avengers: AOU. 3 of the 4 signers are really strong and I think that will really help that the majority of auto hits will be good. We are also forgetting the memos. Those were a great part of the first movie release. If that line up is strong and there are SP's and variants that will help. Not to mention the patches as lots of collectors will be chasing all of the letters to spell AVENGERS.

[therorkstar]

I'm selling my two cases.

[Brobocop]

Why oh why isn't Upper Deck getting that there is a huge want out there for a set that has the top actors signing for it? I can envision a set that would retail for around $400 that would include six base cards (all numbered), three insert cards (all numbered), two high quality sketch cards, and one premium autograph (Downey Jr., Evans, Hemesworth, Jackson, Johanson, so on and so forth). I could see them making a killing on that set while collectors finally get the chance to own autographed cards of the top Marvel Universe stars.

I had really high hopes with this set but with only four people signing for it, I can't help but feel really disappointed. They seems to be good at getting some of these actors when they are new to the franchise, get them to sign a ton of stickers, and just ride those out for the foreseeable future. I don't get how Panini was able to get Bradley Cooper for Americana but Upper Deck could not get him for Guardians of the Galaxy?

[kerg]

Might not be on Upper Deck. If someone doesn't want to sign, they won't sign.

[daviswr7]

Haven't been keeping up with this thread, but is this still set to release next thurs? Or are we still way out on this one..?

[finfangfan]

I doubt it is a situation where UD didn't reach out to the stars or the stars agents. It is likely the stars wanted too much money or simply didn't want to sign.

[Brobocop]

Might not be on Upper Deck. If someone doesn't want to sign, they won't sign.

That's when you call the gimp, you make them sign.

[buckycap]

Everyone seems to put all of the blame on the card companies for not getting the top signers when the blame should probably be with the actor. Most of these actors just don't have the time to sign or just don't want to sign. There is really no incentive for them to sign. In sure UD would love to have a RDJ auto card in this set. That would be great publicity for the company. These card sets are a small fish in the ocean of merchandising and publicity for these movies. Most of the public doesn't even know these exist. In sure UD would love to do a high dollar set with top actor signers. They could pretty much charge whatever they wanted. But if the actors won't sign what are they supposed to do? Its great that they got Hemsworth to sign a bunch of stickers. Hopefully they did the same with Chris Pratt and Zoe for the GOTG 2 set. We've seen it in the past when even after companies get signed contracts from actors and for whatever reason the cards don't get signed. Maybe UD could try and do things for an actors charity in exchange for signed cards. They could donate cards and games to children's hospitals or a portion of sales to a charity. Maybe they should think outside the box some more.
I just can't believe that the only new person they went after was Baron Strucker. He was probably they only one that agreed to sign cards.

[buckycap]

Haven't been keeping up with this thread, but is this still set to release next thurs? Or are we still way out on this one..?
Hitting on Thursday.

[Bryanjs14]

Everyone seems to put all of the blame on the card companies for not getting the top signers when the blame should probably be with the actor. Most of these actors just don't have the time to sign or just don't want to sign. There is really no incentive for them to sign. In sure UD would love to have a RDJ auto card in this set. That would be great publicity for the company. These card sets are a small fish in the ocean of merchandising and publicity for these movies. Most of the public doesn't even know these exist. In sure UD would love to do a high dollar set with top actor signers. They could pretty much charge whatever they wanted. But if the actors won't sign what are they supposed to do? Its great that they got Hemsworth to sign a bunch of stickers. Hopefully they did the same with Chris Pratt and Zoe for the GOTG 2 set. We've seen it in the past when even after companies get signed contracts from actors and for whatever reason the cards don't get signed. Maybe UD could try and do things for an actors charity in exchange for signed cards. They could donate cards and games to children's hospitals or a portion of sales to a charity. Maybe they should think outside the box some more.
I just can't believe that the only new person they went after was Baron Strucker. He was probably they only one that agreed to sign cards.



Thats how Topps finally got Harrison Ford to sign, offering money to charity of his choice. I still am just thinking we are in for some kind of surprise with this set. Until the cases are opened and its confirmed I just can't see there only being 4 autograph cards in the set. Cooper has signed for Alias and Panini now, Vin Diesel signed for Riddick (thinking GotG expansion here), Andy Serkis has signed countless times for LotR Hobbit and King Kong, they've gotta have Don Cheadle stickers left over from Iron man 2 and I would love a War Machine auto, there were (spoilers) even cameos in the film by Idris Elba and Hayley Atwell, give us more autos from them. They always have Stan Lee sign comic cover autos, have him sign some stickers and give us an auto of his drunk veteran from the movie. There just has to be more, no way they dropped the ball on this that badly only having a single new signer.

[buckycap]

Atleast we only have a few more days to wait and see those first breaks. Then after that we can all whine and complain ;)

[kerg]

Maybe UD could try and do things for an actors charity in exchange for signed cards. They could donate cards and games to children's hospitals or a portion of sales to a charity.

I mentioned that to get Amell to sign for Arrow. Create some unique #/10 autographed cards of the set that they get to auction off for charity and I could almost guarantee Amell would sign for the regular set.

[terrymcginnis]

^ agreed. or if CZE perhaps donated on their behalf / promoted one of his charity campaigns, he'd certainly sign without a doubt.

[Campbelljh3]

Is this still going live in 2 days?

Really would like to know contents before I buy

[slidethefive]

Is this still going live in 2 days?

Really would like to know contents before I buy


Yes. Live in 2 days. If you're buying before the release date, it's going to be difficult to know exactly what will show up. But we do know there will at least be those 4 autograph signers and memorabilia cards. Along with the various insert sets.

We'll have a better idea after breakers post their hits and cards start showing up on the "auction" site.

[kerg]

^ agreed. or if CZE perhaps donated on their behalf / promoted one of his charity campaigns, he'd certainly sign without a doubt.

I was curious so I had asked Crypto about donations to charity and they said it is an avenue they pursue when they are trying to get signers. The one interesting thing they did say is that if an actor/actress (or their representative) don't want to sign, nothing they can do.

So, quite possible that many non-signers might not even get past the agent/rep/handler portion.

[kerg]

Really would like to know contents before I buy

Unfortunately, you'll have to wait for a break then.

[Sharard]

So the assumption the break will be similar the the avengers assemble set is not a good one for a box and a case break down?

[buckycap]

Assumption being if this release is just like all other UD movie releases you are looking at 2 memos and either an actor auto, comic creator auto or sketch per box. Plates and patches should be extra hits. Average 2 actor autos per case. That's assuming that they keep the same pattern as previous releases.

[Spider-Fan]

Yes. Live in 2 days. If you're buying before the release date, it's going to be difficult to know exactly what will show up. But we do know there will at least be those 4 autograph signers and memorabilia cards. Along with the various insert sets.

We'll have a better idea after breakers post their hits and cards start showing up on the "auction" site.

Unfortunately, the last 4 or 5 MCU sets had almost no information available before release.

So the assumption the break will be similar the the avengers assemble set is not a good one for a box and a case break down?

Not sure exactly what you mean. Avengers Assemble was a great product, and the initial costs were significantly less than this product.

For this product, you should expect 2 memorabilia cards per box and also EITHER actor autograph OR creator autograph OR sketch card to make a total of 3 hits per box. That has been the basic box breakdown for every UDE MCU product since Iron Man 2. Even that is an assumption though, because no details or stated odds have been released.

[Sharard]

Unfortunately, the last 4 or 5 MCU sets had almost no information available before release.



Not sure exactly what you mean. Avengers Assemble was a great product, and the initial costs were significantly less than this product.

For this product, you should expect 2 memorabilia cards per box and also EITHER actor autograph OR creator autograph OR sketch card to make a total of 3 hits per box. That has been the basic box breakdown for every UDE MCU product since Iron Man 2. Even that is an assumption though, because no details or stated odds have been released.

Sorry, wasn't clear, I meant it wasn't a good assumption that the break be similar to avengers assemble, not that it was a bad product Thank you for the information. Ill admit I wasn't in non sport cards back then as much so missed any releases but have watched a few breaks on you tube from a few years ago. Look like it was a fun break.

[Brobocop]

Is it me or does it seem like every other Upper Deck Marvel movie release is hit and then miss in terms of actor autograph content?

Avengers Assemble: Hit
Iron Man 3: Miss
Thor The Dark World: Hit
Captain America Winter Soldier: Miss (sell sheet fiasco was a huge miss to me)
Guardians of the Galaxy: Hit
Avengers: Age of Ultron: TBD

[buckycap]

So is anyone going to have any boxes or cases in hand on Thursday? I probably won't see any of my boxes until Monday.

[slidethefive]

So is anyone going to have any boxes or cases in hand on Thursday? I probably won't see any of my boxes until Monday.

I should have my case + 3 boxes on Thurs. or Friday. Looking forward to it!

[buckycap]

I should have my case + 3 boxes on Thurs. or Friday. Looking forward to it!
Nice. Please post your hits as soon as you can.

[slidethefive]

Nice. Please post your hits as soon as you can.


Will do! Keeping fingers crossed for a decent product.

[Spider-Fan]

Sorry, wasn't clear, I meant it wasn't a good assumption that the break be similar to avengers assemble, not that it was a bad product Thank you for the information. Ill admit I wasn't in non sport cards back then as much so missed any releases but have watched a few breaks on you tube from a few years ago. Look like it was a fun break.

Its hard to say with so little information having been released about the content, but I would expect a break to be pretty similar - Probably about 2 actor autographs per case and a bunch of sketch cards, maybe a printing plate. Obviously a single box break could go either way, being amazing or kind of a dud.

I only busted a few boxes of GOTG and didn't hit any actor autographs, but I thought they were a ton of fun to bust. I expect this one will also be a lot of fun to bust, I just don't think the value for your dollar is going to be there at the current asking price. If you can get a good deal (<$1100), then it will probably be worth it.

[Chuck Bartowski]

Is it me or does it seem like every other Upper Deck Marvel movie release is hit and then miss in terms of actor autograph content?

Avengers Assemble: Hit
Iron Man 3: Miss
Thor The Dark World: Hit
Captain America Winter Soldier: Miss (sell sheet fiasco was a huge miss to me)
Guardians of the Galaxy: Hit
Avengers: Age of Ultron: TBD

UD did great things with the CA: WS release with the limit autos they did get though...it's one of my favorite products the last couple of years.

[buckycap]

Yea, I wouldn't call CA:TWS a miss either. Besides the sell sheet mislead I thought it was a great release. Decent auto line-up, thought the duals were nice. Patches ended up being better than most people thought they would be, some good SP Memos. A great release in my opinion.

[Spider-Fan]

I thought he meant strictly in terms of autographs, and primarily due to the lack of Chis Evans after releasing a mock up.

[AusRam]

See Cardboard Conncetion have a checklist up -

2015 Upper Deck Avengers: Age of Ultron Checklist, Info (http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2015-upper-deck-avengers-ultron-trading)

[buckycap]

Damn that's a big checklist. Looks like they made the best they could with the autos. SP memos listed which is a first, at least this early. And what are the metallics?

[Spider-Fan]

The single autograph checklist seems kinda unnecessarily impossible... 4 Smulders? 4 Renner? 3 Hemsworth? What a ridiculous ploy.

I kinda wish there would be less single wardrobe SPs. Gonna be a nightmare to finish, especially with jacked up case prices.

Metallics...? No idea but I hope they are cool.

[slidethefive]

Just to reiterate.....that is a MASSIVE checklist!

I wonder how the locker cards will be different from the regular memorabilia cards?

Also, which insert set is the one that's supposed to spell "AVENGERS"?

I guess insertion rates will not be posted until we see the pack odds? (Upper Deck does put the pack odds on the wrappers, right?)

[Campbelljh3]

Ok glad I passed on this release especially with the prices

[dalastdon]

Upper Deck Already messed up Sport Cards releases in the 2000 And now they Start the Same with marvel Movies. Just putting Sticker left overs on as Many Cards as Possible.
Nobody is Going to be Interested in a smulders anymore. (Not Even Able to put it on Card) And Nobody should be willing to pay 100+.
Especially When i Can get a real Nice autograph from rittenhouse of her

[finfangfan]

It does seem like a goofy auto list with just the 4 signers, but with multiple variations. I think if there is one potential "good" thing that case breakers have going for them is that 11 of the 12 single autos feature the 3 top signers. But will there be enough people seeking out master sets of auto cards with so many dupes (basically just auto stickers affixed to card variations), or will many just stop once they hit one of the many possible variations of 4 auto cards (dropping down demand for the autos)?

This will be an interesting one to watch from the sidelines.

Outside of the actor autos, the Stan Lee auto cards should do well (they usually do) and the Neal Adams auto could do okay-ish.

I wonder if like GotG there will only be plates for the cover cards?

[buckycap]

Wonder if the AVENGERS Connection are the patch cards.

[finfangfan]

Wonder if the AVENGERS Connection are the patch cards.

That would be interesting... potentially 3 different patch sets? They could be pretty cool if done as well as Premier 2014 patch cards (I doubt they will be as thick though?).

AVENGERS Connection - Bronze Age Checklist
8 cards.
ACB-1 Captain America
ACB-2 Iron Man
ACB-3 Thor
ACB-4 HulkACB-5 Black Widow
ACB-6 Hawkeye
ACB-7 Vision
ACB-8 Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch


AVENGERS Connection - Silver Age Checklist
8 cards.
ACS-1 Captain America
ACS-2 Iron Man
ACS-3 Thor
ACS-4 HulkACS-5 Black Widow
ACS-6 Hawkeye
ACS-7 Vision
ACS-8 Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch


AVENGERS Connection - Theatrical Checklist
8 cards.
ACT-1 Captain America
ACT-2 Iron Man
ACT-3 Thor
ACT-4 HulkACT-5 Black Widow
ACT-6 Hawkeye
ACT-7 Vision
ACT-8 Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch

[Spider-Fan]

Wonder if the AVENGERS Connection are the patch cards.

That is what I am thinking based on the name and supported by the name and supported by the fact that they are each 8 cards / 8 letters.

[kerg]

It would probably be easier to just list the artists that didn't do sketches for the set.

I'll probably still buy a box or two, but a far cry from what I potentially could have dropped.

Oh well.

[Sharard]

Checklist is pretty well complete one cardboard connection. Though only 4 actor autos there are some pretty sweet comic artist autos. Bendis, adams, and Lee to name a few of course love more actors from the movie but this, for me anyway, lessons the sting a bit. I realize this prolly old info, just my two cents that I like the artist list quite a bit

[Tim]

Amused at the negativity after the checklist was revealed. I am very happy I loaded up after seeing the checklist.

1.) they turned a potentiall weak 4-card auto checklist into 12, 11 of which are great. (Set collectors will chase all 12, not just 4.)
2.) they picked for the most part the best combos on the duals/wardrobes.
3.) they have an awesome triple auto
4.) they have three variations on the avengers patches
5.) they have stan lee and a really good comic auto checklist.
6.) big sketch artist list = not many done in mass, which leads to good overall quality
7.) they announced the SPs in advance on the wardrobes, and there is a good amount of them

So tell me again why there are so many negative reactions?

[slidethefive]

Amused at the negativity after the checklist was revealed. I am very happy I loaded up after seeing the checklist.

1.) they turned a potentiall weak 4-card auto checklist into 12, 11 of which are great. (Set collectors will chase all 12, not just 4.)
2.) they picked for the most part the best combos on the duals/wardrobes.
3.) they have an awesome triple auto
4.) they have three variations on the avengers patches
5.) they have stan lee and a really good comic auto checklist.
6.) big sketch artist list = not many done in mass, which leads to good overall quality
7.) they announced the SPs in advance on the wardrobes, and there is a good amount of them

So tell me again why there are so many negative reactions?

I couldnt' agree more with Tim. Not to mention the metallics cards will be interesting to see. Waiting to see what the insertion rates will be.

[Campbelljh3]

I don't see any of these as positives, to each his own

[kerg]

So tell me again why there are so many negative reactions?

I'm not negative, just disappointed in the autos and the 18 different variations on 4. I find it hard to justify the current price range as I'm not a completist for sets. (I really need a b&m location for preorders...).

Of course, what I assume will happen is once the product is in my hands tomorrow I'll be wishing I had more. :p

I missed that they had already labelled wardrobe cards as SP. Hopefully some of the wardrobe cards hold value rather than what happened in Guardians were it somes like almost everything is a few dollars now.

[Spider-Fan]

1.) they turned a potentiall weak 4-card auto checklist into 12, 11 of which are great. (Set collectors will chase all 12, not just 4.)

So tell me again why there are so many negative reactions?

Good for dealers, tough on collectors wallets. I think the vast majority of collectors would be happy with one single autograph per actor instead of 3 or 4. There are duals and triples and memorabilia autographs To collect in addition to the singles, so having multiple versions of the single seems like an uneccessary challenge for completists at the likely odds of 2/case.

Otherwise, I agree the set sounds dynamic and interesting and highly collectible - all the things I've come to expect from UDE. Worth the current street price? I'll be better off on the secondary market. If I could get your price I might feel differently ;)

[Spider-Fan]

I missed that they had already labelled wardrobe cards as SP. Hopefully some of the wardrobe cards hold value rather than what happened in Guardians were it somes like almost everything is a few dollars now.

Commons, yes. The SPs just seem to climb though.

[gdelan1]

went ahead and ordered a box through blowout. Best price I could find.

[Hippiekmt]

Amused at the negativity after the checklist was revealed. I am very happy I loaded up after seeing the checklist.

1.) they turned a potentiall weak 4-card auto checklist into 12, 11 of which are great. (Set collectors will chase all 12, not just 4.)
2.) they picked for the most part the best combos on the duals/wardrobes.
3.) they have an awesome triple auto
4.) they have three variations on the avengers patches
5.) they have stan lee and a really good comic auto checklist.
6.) big sketch artist list = not many done in mass, which leads to good overall quality
7.) they announced the SPs in advance on the wardrobes, and there is a good amount of them

So tell me again why there are so many negative reactions?

Tim,
I agree completely. I don't say much but it seems everyone dogs the UD Marvel products before they're released & then once people see them.."they have to have it" & it's not just UD products but I think more UD then others.

When everyone dogged Thor DW before it was release because of the release of IM3 & there was no checklist, I still ordered my full allocation from UD & then was able to go back to my UD rep & get more before it dried up.
UD cut THOR DW retail & made it hobby only, which was cut because of orders and it was loaded. Then people went crazy for it after they saw it. Busted a couple cases for myself & easily sold the rest off.

CA-TWS...people were pissed because the sell sheet showed Evans & he wasn't in there but again, UD had a decent auto checklist & good duals & the Cobie memorabilia auto. Atwell may not have been the hot auto back then but after Peggy Carter, there's a lot of interest in her now....again, bought up full allocations & easily sold the remaining.
Yeah, we all wish more of the main cast would sign..that's a given and maybe missed out on a couple of others. I only hope that they different variations are different pictures...THor DW had variations of Hemsworth but it I think it was the same picture- just a different angle.
I haven't always been a fan of the artist autos but this release has some big names..obviously Stan Lee & he's on a dual + Neal Adams & a couple of other big names.
The UD Marvel sets always bring great looking memorabilia which I think supplements the short auto list.
I also think the "value" or "demand" will depend on how many autos are in a case.
I have bought my full allocation direct from UD. Every UD Marvel release has been a fun break (except IM3..we agree on that..lol)...I get all my cases tomorrow....I'm looking forward to breaking a couple of cases:)

Anyway, everyone has their own opinion for there own reasons. I personally love the Marvel movies & the putting the sets together.....I know one thing for sure, I'll have more fun breaking Altron then I did GOT...lol

[robomole]

That checklist is a monster! Super excited for my 2 cases now!!! Looking forward to assembling all those chase sets! For the PC I'm really only in it for the autos and as many memorabilia as it takes to get each variable swatch from each character. So it looks like I'll have plenty to sell off to get some money back! This is gonna be a fun set!

[terrymcginnis]

did anybody get any in today?

[terrymcginnis]

& FBB opened up a non-sport breaking site, said they're getting this in tomorrow. i'm probably going to get a spot and see how this product goes before grabbing some boxes. lookin' forward to it.

[daviswr7]

I was able to snag a case close to cost cause someone else backed out this morning. Very excited to rip it all Monday. GL to breakers tomorrow :)!

[DigsUT]

Interestingly enough, it looks like all the actors that are on the CL, are ones that have done a convention or two:p

[Cujobyte]

Despite the lackluster auto list, i'm in for a few boxes. Good luck all.

[Archifou]

Waiting for my case to arrive tomorrow!

[Raptorman]

I'm in for 3 cases at $1300 per... NO WHAMMIES!!!

[Bryanjs14]

Well, I have 5 cases coming and I think I am going to just open one and sell the other 4. I always buy into these to chase the autos, and with just one new signer it doesn't make sense for me to open up a lot of this. Still will open up 1 for fun and hope to just break even on the other 4 cases. Im sure the Relics will do very well

[Sharard]

Heres hoping we some good breaks and pics of this stuff today. Release day is always fun and great to some breakers hits.

[AceGambit3]

Yeah just checked ebay and saw the first ones listed........
As far as the autograph cards go.....
Upper Deck FIRE YOUR DESIGN TEAM IMMEDIATELY.

I don't know what idiot thought "hey this is the best we can do" but just damn, children in grade school can create a better card.
Or just hire Archifou cause his design kicked the #@#@#@#@ out of what UD gave us here.

Link
Upper Deck Marvel Avengers Age of Ultron Autograph AA HC Chris Hemsworth | eBay (http://m.ebay.com/itm/121663262231?nav=SEARCH)

[gdelan1]

Costume cards look pretty good though.