Upper Deck Firefly Set

[NonSportsCardForum]

Its happening....sketch cards. Not sure on other details.


Details has been updated on cardboard connection, so pumped for this release!

2015 Upper Deck Firefly: The Verse Trading Cards Info (http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2015-upper-deck-firefly-verse-trading)

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Actor-Autograph.jpg

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Replica-Patch.jpg

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Sketch-Autograph.jpg

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Poster-Art-Card.jpg

[dragonjss39]

Now this is a set I will be looking forward to get. I loved the show when it was on.

[xbignick]

Is that what I see on a calendar for May?

[NonSportsCardForum]

No...from what I was told, artists havent gotten the blanks yet.

[Chuck Bartowski]

I have 9 complete Crew of Serenity sets (sketches of the 9 main characters)

[TheMightyQuinn]

I'm liking what I've heard & SEEN SO far........


can't wait!

[bradu]

looking forward to it, gonna have to rewatch the series in preparation!

[Hippiekmt]

Is that what I see on a calendar for May?

There is no release date yet. UD hasn't solicated for direct accounts yet. Age of Ultron is set for May.

[NonSportsCardForum]

Posted on NSCF

I knew there was a Firefly set coming by Upper Deck and should be out later this year from what I hear. But what I didn't know was there are going to be sketch cards. I hope Upper Deck does this set right as it could be huge.

From their Facebook page:

CALLING ALL FIREFLY ARTISTS!!!

We are looking for artists with a particular skill. That skill is a tremendous passion for the Firefly series. Firefly is a show that holds a very special place in our hearts here at Upper Deck. We know that in order to make the best Firefly products possible we need to include people that are as equally passionate about Firefly as we are. After all, the fans are the reason this amazing show is still in the forefront of pop culture after 10 years. These same fans can only help make our products shiny.

If you have the passion and want to be a part of our upcoming Firefly products you can send us an email at firefly_art@upperdeck.com. Be sure to include samples of your art. This can be attached images (keeping the total file size under 5MB) or a link to a website containing your art (preferred method). I swear by my pretty floral bonnet we will review each and every one of these submissions.

To show your passion, feel free to include in the email why you want to be, should be, or maybe even need to be part of our Firefly products. We want artists that are passionate about the series so let it show.

Upper Deck's goal is simple:
Find a crew, Find a job, Keep flying.

Bill

[kerg]

Saw a solicitation for this today. Looks like September release.

Unfortunately the case rate is probably going to be around $1200.

[Spider-Fan]

I should Google this and see if it's a show I like

(Calm down, it was a joke)

[adal]

Details has been updated on cardboard connection, so pumped for this release!

2015 Upper Deck Firefly: The Verse Trading Cards Info (http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2015-upper-deck-firefly-verse-trading)

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Actor-Autograph.jpg

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Replica-Patch.jpg

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Sketch-Autograph.jpg

http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Poster-Art-Card.jpg

[Chuck Bartowski]

dang...those look great

[kerg]

I should Google this and see if it's a show I like
(Calm down, it was a joke)

I just want to know if there are any autos of hot chicks I can sell.

[KLS23KLS]

Love the show. The sample cards look awesome. Sign me up for a case or two already:).

Ken

[Zerostreet]

This is one of several of paintings of mine that will be part of the set. Can't wait to be able to show more!
http://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-Upper-Deck-Firefly-the-Verse-Poster-Art-Card.jpg

[TimShay]

killer work zerostreet!

[Spider-Fan]

Is this going to be a very art-centric set?

[TimShay]

Is this going to be a very art-centric set?

From the ads posted, yes, seems like a lot of artwork used on this set.
As an artist, I say Yay.

[Chuck Bartowski]

I'm torn...I wanna be out of card collecting, but this set looks so awesome.

I have 9 or 10 different 9 card Crew of Serenity sketch card sets. Would love to add to those.

[Zerostreet]

killer work zerostreet!
I'm also proud to show my Jayne art, used for Adam Baldwin's autograph cards.

Thanks Tim! Excellent work! Can't wait to see more.

Here's a better image of my Border Planets No. 17, without the UD art.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/BORDER%20PLANETS%20NO%2017.jpg

[JRCrosby]

Can't wait to see all your pieces, Robert.

[Hippiekmt]

received the order sheet today from UD:

RELEASE DATE IS SEPTEMBER 2015.

ACCOUNTS ORDERS ARE DUE BY JUNE 24TH

Based on the cost, I would expect cases will be $1K+

[Chuck Bartowski]

It's pretty crazy how little of the Inkworks cards are out there.

[gdelan1]

might have to invest in a case on this...

[Wyrm]

It's pretty crazy how little of the Inkworks cards are out there.
Tell me about it. I finally got the auto set together, but the costumes continue to elude me. Well, most of them.

And I'm missing exactly ONE base card!

[John91C]

Not many sellers are pre-selling this. My lcs has a 2 case limit but they are at $1100/case. Pretty high price point with no breakdown of what you get per box/case.

[Hippiekmt]

It's pretty crazy how little of the Inkworks cards are out there.

I still have a sealed case of Inkworks Firefly...I used to put 1 case of everything away.....I still have some LOST cases...maybe if I get bored one day, I crack one open.

[sthoemke]

I thought Firefly was cancelled... ;)

[Bryanjs14]

I have a complete Inkworks Firefly movie autograph set available, its all framed up nicely too :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/Bryanjs14/IMG_7529_zpsshwyqxwp.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Bryanjs14/media/IMG_7529_zpsshwyqxwp.jpg.html)

[WOLFMOON1970]

That is pretty sweet Bryan! :)! I myself have all the "Serenity" and "Firefly:Complete" autographs in my collection! Loved those Inkworks cards, loved the show and still watch an episode from time to time...BUT, to do ANOTHER card set?? Good Grief! :confused: The Inkworks cards were plenty! (and will hold their value) With all the crap Hollywood puts out, I can't believe no producer fired this show back up! Makes me sick :mad:

[gdelan1]

I think people are more interested in the sketch cards this time around.

[booswain]

Any news on the amount of hits per box. I have seen some numbers that say this will be about 100 a box.

[Nicnac]

I thought Firefly was cancelled... ;)

Too soon, man. Too soon.

[kerg]

Any news on the amount of hits per box. I have seen some numbers that say this will be about 100 a box.

Given it's Upper Deck I see no reason why it wouldn't be like any of their Marvel products.

[Spider-Fan]

Dinosaurs is at that price and I expect this to be the same. I'm curious to see how it's justified and how they go over. These seem like $60/box products to me.

Ps I love firefly

[xbignick]

I'd be in if it were a medium-boxed price, not a fan of the $100+ a box releases.

[IndySportsCards]

Best show EVAR!!!

[Wyrm]

I'd be in if it were a medium-boxed price, not a fan of the $100+ a box releases.
Pretty much. My luck isn't good enough to justify that kind of lottery ticket!

I might feel differently if I were into sketches. I'm mainly in it for the autos, though, and $100 is enough to meet, thank, and get a personal auto from any two of the cast members except Nathan at a con.

Love the show, love the cast, looking forward to getting to meet Morena this fall, if just for 30 seconds...

[John91C]

It's a gamble to pre-order this product. The "other" site has them up for pre-sale and it's $102/box.

I bet it's 1-2 hits per box with sketch cards being the "rare" case hits.

[gdelan1]

Aren't they all a gamble?

[John91C]

Aren't they all a gamble?

When there's no info on what's in a box or case, it's a true gamble.

Most of the time we know, when we pre-order, what we're getting ourselves into so it's not truly a gamble like it is with this or any other product with no info on pre-order!

[aces]

As another rogue starship captain said, "Never tell me the odds!"

[pinhead767]

Pretty much. My luck isn't good enough to justify that kind of lottery ticket!

I might feel differently if I were into sketches. I'm mainly in it for the autos, though, and $100 is enough to meet, thank, and get a personal auto from any two of the cast members except Nathan at a con.

Love the show, love the cast, looking forward to getting to meet Morena this fall, if just for 30 seconds...

Assuming she doesn't cancel like she's had to at the last 3 cons I could've seen her.

[gdelan1]

She's supposed to be at the upcoming walker/stalker in Boston, hopefully she makes that one. How much does Nathan charge for autos?

[pinhead767]

$70-80 has been my experience. He was $70 last year at Dallas Comic Con, but I think he was $75 or $80 at this years DCC.

[Grimster]

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130806134317/clubpenguin/images/c/cc/Shut_up_and_take_my_money.png

[gdelan1]

Btw, I have a PSA/DNA authentic signed 8x10 of him if anyone is interested

[Wyrm]

Assuming she doesn't cancel like she's had to at the last 3 cons I could've seen her.
Well, yes. There's a reason I haven't pre-bought tickets to the con yet. Every time I visit their webpage I hold my breath. She could always end up with another job that conflicts, and if so, I'll just catch her at a different con down the road.

Nathan's autograph price at the upcoming Comic Cons (Pittsburgh, Chicago, Nashville) is $100. Most of the other cast stay around 40, other than Adam, who has gone up to 50.

[pinhead767]

I'm glad I got most of them on my poster back with they were under $40. I think Ron, Jewel, Sean, and Morena were all $35 when I got them years ago.

[Zerostreet]

Cleared to show all the art I did for the base set of The Verse!

I’ve been a big fan of the show and film and was thrilled to have the chance to work on these, especially working in the style of vintage pulp art which I love so much. These are all either an acrylic painting or illustration which I scanned and then digitally created the covers.

http://zerostreet.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/08/FireFly-Art-Nathan-Fillion-Morena-Baccarin-trading-cards-The-Verse-Pulp-Art-Covers-Jimenez.jpg

[adal]

Cleared to show all the art I did for the base set of The Verse!

I’ve been a big fan of the show and film and was thrilled to have the chance to work on these, especially working in the style of vintage pulp art which I love so much. These are all either an acrylic painting or illustration which I scanned and then digitally created the covers.

http://zerostreet.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/08/FireFly-Art-Nathan-Fillion-Morena-Baccarin-trading-cards-The-Verse-Pulp-Art-Covers-Jimenez.jpg

Look awesome! Definitely gonna pick up couple boxes! :)!

[chris meeks]

A few of the base card images I did for the set. 5x7. 9 total.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/meekssandygirl/samples_zpsaatlihhu.jpg

[Chuck Bartowski]

Nice...I would love for there to be redemptions for the art of the base cards.

I really dig that sketch from The Train Job.

[TimShay]

very cool art for this set.
Here's my contributions, the art for the main cast autograph cards.
:)

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/10stroke/Signed%20Completed%20Set.jpg

[kerg]

If those are indeed the signers, going to be great.

[Wyrm]

very cool art for this set.
Here's my contributions, the art for the main cast autograph cards.
:)

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/10stroke/Signed%20Completed%20Set.jpg
If nobody else is going to say it, I will: Those are fantastic. They capture the characters without giving me any sense of having seen those combinations of poses and expressions in quite that way ever before; they are truly yours. With a show as iconic and with images that have become so iconic, that's really hard to do. Masterfully done.

[jdandns]

Shay nails it so often, at this point, he's as much a carpenter as he is an illustrator. Tim's been on the short list of the "sketch card" artist Honor Roll for years now (and is on well on the way to the Hall of Fame once there is such a thing).

[TimShay]

wow, I'm honored to hear that you guys. Seriously, very cool of you to say and it really means a lot. Thank you so much!

[TimShay]

If those are indeed the signers, going to be great.

They are all confirmed to sign. I wasn't allowed to display all 9 until the contracts were all set. :)

[gdelan1]

I'll be in for some of this for sure

[xbignick]

They are all confirmed to sign. I wasn't allowed to display all 9 until the contracts were all set. :)

Did you do any others like say Christina Hendricks' character?

Hoping to possibly see a breakdown of what a regular case would look like if anyone knows.

[xbignick]

Anyone see any news?

[neon_tiger]

I'm assuming these will be sticker auto's? I'm definitely looking to buy some boxes here in Canada. The biggest issue is always finding them..

[kerg]

I'm assuming these will be sticker auto's?

Hoping they are on card given the willingness of those actors to sign for various things.

[neon_tiger]

Hoping they are on card given the willingness of those actors to sign for various things.

Has Upper Deck ever done on card auto's for a non-sport release?

Is there any sketches from any artists out there that we can take a look at?
I'm not sure if you have to wait until closer to release to show them or not. Would love to see what's out there.

[kerg]

Has Upper Deck ever done on card auto's for a non-sport release?


I think Spiderman was on card. Not sure when the last non-sports non-Marvel UD release was though.

Haven't seen any other sketches other than Chris Meeks base card art.

[neon_tiger]

I think Spiderman was on card. Not sure when the last non-sports non-Marvel UD release was though.

Haven't seen any other sketches other than Chris Meeks base card art.

I really want to see some of these sketches! Do we know the names of the artists who are involved in this set? You would think they would be allowed to preview their work at this point pending approval.

[buckycap]

I've seen sketches from Charles Hall and Francios Chartier on instagram. I saw another artist too but I can't remember who it was. I think it might have been Hanie Mohd.

[xbignick]

Some:
http://i.imgur.com/DBNTWo3.png
http://i.imgur.com/kkX1769.png
http://i.imgur.com/oc5lXys.png

[neon_tiger]

damn that Fillion sketch is sweet. If these auto's are on-card that would be HUGE!!

[xbignick]

Man...wish they would just release a breakdown.

http://i.imgur.com/eydmiK9.png

[Zerostreet]

Happy to have io9 feature my art for the set. Read the post here:

Here's How Firefly Would Have Looked As Pulp Novels (http://io9.com/heres-how-firefly-would-have-looked-as-pulp-novels-1724299986)

I also contributed 30 sketch cards to the set. Hope to be able to show them soon!

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11845034_870932372975870_5236423807591894280_o.jpg

[xbignick]

Bump on this, anyone see any updates?

[daviswr7]

Price point on this is high, but this stuff could be killer. Multiple distributors had the date as 9/15. Not sure if this is correct or not..BO has different. This is all I recieve on the info but it's looking good..


"Collect the base set featuring Original Art based upon the Firefly series! Five to six base cards in each Hobby pack. Look for autographs of the actors and cards containing replicated iconic patches! 1-of-1 Artist Sketch cards featuring original art interpretations of Firefly. Collect the 3 different Parallels of the base set. Parallels come in foil, canvas stock and autographed versions. Look for Subset cards featuring the characters, ships, locations and weapons within The Verse. Look for Authentic 1-of-1 Press Plate cards!

I think most of the info is the same..but it's UD so I don't expect alot of updates..

[kerg]

Did you do any others like say Christina Hendricks' character?

In talking to an artist at Chicago Wizard World that did some of the base card art, he was not allowed to use Chrstina Hendricks likeness.

[Wyrm]

Assuming she doesn't cancel like she's had to at the last 3 cons I could've seen her.
And of course, after I waited until a month before the show to buy badges to make sure this didn't happen, Morena up and cancelled.

Guess I get to find out whether Amazon Local is serious about their refund policy on vouchers.

[xbignick]

Comes out in less than a month. Not going to order any since I have no idea what a case would be, anyone take the plunge?

[John91C]

my lcs told me Oct 5th or 6th.

[Zerostreet]

I just ordered 2 boxes from a place other than BO...It says the release date is Sept 28th.

[NonSportsCardForum]

And of course, after I waited until a month before the show to buy badges to make sure this didn't happen, Morena up and cancelled.

Guess I get to find out whether Amazon Local is serious about their refund policy on vouchers.

Im gonna try to catch her at wiz world austin if you need a sig.

[Wyrm]

Im gonna try to catch her at wiz world austin if you need a sig.
Thanks for the offer! It was more the 30 seconds of awkwardness I was hoping for, though. I really like being able to thank the folks whose work I enjoy so much. :) I hope she makes it to Austin and you get a chance to meet her.

One thing I've learned from this hobby is patience...

[Zerostreet]

Received my Artists Proof from Upper Deck this week. These cards look awesome! My cards will be available in a glossy finish, which is part of the regular base set. The autographed subset has a matte finish which gives it a nice vintage feel!

http://zerostreet.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/07/IMG_8296.jpg

http://zerostreet.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/07/IMG_8302.jpg

[Spider-Fan]

Those cards are based on sketch cards and not larger originals? What is happening to the ones you didn't get back?

[Zerostreet]

Those cards are based on sketch cards and not larger originals? What is happening to the ones you didn't get back?

I did 8 paintings for base cards...these are those cards. Part of my payment for the base card work I did is receiving AP's of base cards and Ap's of my autograph cards.

I did happen to do 25 sketch cards as well...

Oh and the original paintings are in my possession... If that's what you mean about the one's I didn't get back?

[kerg]

Those cards are based on sketch cards and not larger originals?

Larger originals. I saw some of Bill Pulkovski's art for cards in Chicago. I want to say it was 5x7ish.

[Zerostreet]

Larger originals. I saw some of Bill Pulkovski's art for cards in Chicago. I want to say it was 5x7ish.
That's right. UD asked for the art to be at least 5x7. Most of mine are around 8x10.

[Spider-Fan]

So the card you are holding is a printed card stamped AP? Not a sketch card?

[Zerostreet]

So the card you are holding is a printed card stamped AP? Not a sketch card?

That's right.

UD gave me permission to show these but no go ahead yet on showing sketch cards.

I'll show my original base art soon. It's a bit different since there's no type on it, and the aging effects I added later in Photoshop.

[Jorgon]

Nice work, would love to buy a few of these when they hit.

[gdelan1]

I will as well

[Spider-Fan]

I never heard of printed cards stamped AP before. Definitely an interesting get for a master set collector...

[kerg]

I never heard of printed cards stamped AP before. Definitely an interesting get for a master set collector...

I missed that too. Seems like a relatively easy way to give more compensation to the artists. Well, assuming that normal compensation isn't lowered and replaced with this.

[daviswr7]

Is this set flying under the radar? Looks like it could be killer...

[Spider-Fan]

I missed that too. Seems like a relatively easy way to give more compensation to the artists. Well, assuming that normal compensation isn't lowered and replaced with this.

Considering I'm assuming he has the originals to sell, limited "parallels" seem like a big potential money maker

[Hippiekmt]

Oct 14 is the release date...info from UD

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I never heard of printed cards stamped AP before. Definitely an interesting get for a master set collector...

That is weird. Could get a bit confusing if that starts happening alot. In the card world that is usually soley a sketch card term.

So its just a base card stamped AP? I understand its a form of compensation, but when you can just get the base card in a box what is the point? Will the be signed i guess? Or something.

[kerg]

but when you can just get the base card in a box what is the point? Will the be signed i guess? Or something.

No different than base cards with gold parallel, foil, superfractor, different borders or any other number of variations of base cards.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

No different than base cards with gold parallel, foil, superfractor, different borders or any other number of variations of base cards.

Oh, i dont see the point in those either haha.

[kerg]

Oh, i dont see the point in those either haha.

At the end of the day, there is no point to trading cards in general. :D

[Zerostreet]

Considering I'm assuming he has the originals to sell, limited "parallels" seem like a big potential money maker

That's right, the artists all have their original art.

That is weird. Could get a bit confusing if that starts happening alot. In the card world that is usually soley a sketch card term.

So its just a base card stamped AP? I understand its a form of compensation, but when you can just get the base card in a box what is the point? Will the be signed i guess? Or something.

I'm sure the artist will be signing these. I know I will.

There are artist autograph cards in set. As I mentioned before, those are on a matte stock. I think I signed 40 (maybe 30, can't remember now) of each of my 8 base cards for the set. So I guess these AP's are a way to facilitate fans being able to pick up all the cards signed, in addition to providing further compensation to those who worked on the set.

[Spider-Fan]

At the end of the day, there is no point to trading cards in general. :D

+1 :)

There are still a lot of master set collectors out there, and Firefly has a HUGE following. Don't know how many copies of each card stamped AP will be available, how many artists will decide to sell them, etc... But I could see this being a huge chase for some of those master collectors with pockets deep enough to persuade stubborn artists into giving them up. On the other hand, some will probably sell on ebay for just a few bucks.

[Sarek]

hi Guys,

just wondering if any Actors are actually confirmed for this release....it's out in 2 weeks, would be nice to try to figure out a plan for one of my favorite shows....

What I've read on Upper Deck sorta has me scared at this point....

[xbignick]

I gave up on the idea of opening any with the lack of any information, got baseball and non-sports plates instead. Good luck to all, look forward to seeing breaks though.

hi Guys,

just wondering if any Actors are actually confirmed for this release....it's out in 2 weeks, would be nice to try to figure out a plan for one of my favorite shows....

What I've read on Upper Deck sorta has me scared at this point....

From the previews and just the artist stuff I've seen guessing Fillion and Baldwin are the only real confirmations.

[Spider-Fan]

Considering how many of these guys sign routinely at cons, I'm expecting most of the main cast. Especially if Fillion is confirmed, since he is typically the most expensive at cons. Glau would be the big question mark to me.

[aggie4ever]

Based on the sketches Tim Shay posted earlier in this thread, it looks like they should get all of the main case to sign. But if you're really worried, there really is no reason to pre-order any of this until you get a confirmed auto list. The only reason you would need to pre-order is if you are buying wholesale from a distributor, any collectors buying retail should have no trouble picking this product up once it releases...

[rickstaman05]

Considering how many of these guys sign routinely at cons, I'm expecting most of the main cast. Especially if Fillion is confirmed, since he is typically the most expensive at cons. Glau would be the big question mark to me.

Glau signed for arrow, so maybe! Doesn't necessarily mean she'll sign for firefly, but at least she's signing cards so it gives hope.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

At the end of the day, there is no point to trading cards in general. :D

+1 :)

There are still a lot of master set collectors out there, and Firefly has a HUGE following. Don't know how many copies of each card stamped AP will be available, how many artists will decide to sell them, etc... But I could see this being a huge chase for some of those master collectors with pockets deep enough to persuade stubborn artists into giving them up. On the other hand, some will probably sell on ebay for just a few bucks.

Hahaha. Fair Point. I just dont have the aforementioned 'deep pockets' so I don't usewhatI have on paralells usually. But I guess you are right, there is probably a fair amount of people who do collect them.

That's right, the artists all have their original art.



I'm sure the artist will be signing these. I know I will.

There are artist autograph cards in set. As I mentioned before, those are on a matte stock. I think I signed 40 (maybe 30, can't remember now) of each of my 8 base cards for the set. So I guess these AP's are a way to facilitate fans being able to pick up all the cards signed, in addition to providing further compensation to those who worked on the set.

Sorry, I wasnt trying to sound rude, I'm pro-artist. I'm all for them getting as much compensation as possible. I just didnt think somethinglike that would bring alot of money. Like the company should have done something more than just stamp AP on them. But if signed they make a decent amount, more power to you! I guess at least the company did something more than usual.

This might be a dumb question, but is the entire set illustrated? I havent seen any actual photos used on anything. Its cool, just wondering why.

Scratch that, i guess there might be a couple small pictures on things in the first post. Is the entire base set illustrated tho?

[Zerostreet]

Sorry, I wasnt trying to sound rude, I'm pro-artist. I'm all for them getting as much compensation as possible. I just didnt think somethinglike that would bring alot of money. Like the company should have done something more than just stamp AP on them. But if signed they make a decent amount, more power to you! I guess at least the company did something more than usual.

This might be a dumb question, but is the entire set illustrated? I havent seen any actual photos used on anything. Its cool, just wondering why.

Scratch that, i guess there might be a couple small pictures on things in the first post. Is the entire base set illustrated tho?

No worries! I didn't take it as rude at all. And I didn't mean to make it sound like these AP's would be the bulk of my payment either. I do have all my original art for the 8 cards I did that will hopefully contribute more to than end! :D

I do believe the base set is illustrated.

[Sarek]

well I have a few cases of this set..... after the Journey to the Force nightmare & losing the Charles Hall Artist Proof that was on eBay last Month....sorta worried. Would've felt better if I won it..... the guy got Kaylee on the AP...it's on Charles Hall FB page.

Missed it by that much............

hope it's an Actor Auto at least every 2 boxes........

could do with a River or 2 Autographs.............

hope it does have the main cast.......

I'd hate to just stop buying cases...but It may come to that if this fails as aggressively as a few recent sets have............

[kerg]

hope it's an Actor Auto at least every 2 boxes.

6 autos in a case of actor autographs is a little overly optimistic for UD product. I'd be happy if there are 4, but I'm expecting 2-3. It might be an auto every other box, but half those will be artist autos.

[Sarek]

6 autos in a case of actor autographs is a little overly optimistic for UD product. I'd be happy if there are 4, but I'm expecting 2-3. It might be an auto every other box, but half those will be artist autos.

my hope comes from the fact that all the main cast is signing 'maybe'....

plus any guest stars , writers and of course Joss Whedon.....


then the Artist Autos......

Really hoping it works out.............

here's the Hall AP i lost out on from ebay......... from Charles Hall's FB

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12032005_10153256620647815_4382580009902368000_n.jpg?oh=acd987336d2bd614f3861808a969061a&oe=56981CCA

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Aren't you supposed to wait til a set drops to sell APs?

[ricksam]

...
here's the Hall AP i lost out on from ebay......... from Charles Hall's FB

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12032005_10153256620647815_4382580009902368000_n.jpg?oh=acd987336d2bd614f3861808a969061a&oe=56981CCA


nice AP ..
seems odd that the artist was selling before the actual release /street date of the set

wonder why not all artists do this?
or case/box breakers flooding ebay having received before street date

oh yeah .. :doh::rolleyes:

[Sarek]

nice AP ..
seems odd that the artist was selling before the actual release /street date of the set

wonder why not all artists do this?
or case/box breakers flooding ebay having received before street date

oh yeah .. :doh::rolleyes:

to be fair it was a Blank on eBay......

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA0Mlg3NTY=/z/pRMAAOSwTapV3OIV/$_57.JPG

I would've chosen River........

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/92/80/9f/92809f2ec2e3a7e37b4287b55ff54e7b.jpg

but gotta admit...... i like this one.........

[ricksam]

to be fair it was a Blank on eBay......

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA0Mlg3NTY=/z/pRMAAOSwTapV3OIV/$_57.JPG

I would've chosen River........

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/92/80/9f/92809f2ec2e3a7e37b4287b55ff54e7b.jpg

but gotta admit...... i like this one.........

i do like the photo :)!

i see, that reads better
he was selling blank AP for commissions work
.. and probably wont ship to collector once approved/ and street date hits

any more signer updates / previews?

[Spider-Fan]

The 'ap' might be a return that has to be approved with the packed out sketches...

[Hippiekmt]

I was charged from UD for my cases which means they should arrive sometime next week.

[Tim]

I was charged from UD for my cases which means they should arrive sometime next week.

October 21st.

[Sarek]

Here's some pretty Big As# News.........

NO RIVER TAM / SUMMER GLAU AUTOS
NO GINA TORRES/ ZOE AUTOS????
NO ALAN TUDYK/WASH AUTOS?????
NO SAFFRON/ CHRISTINA HENDRICKS AUTOS
NO JOSS WHEDON AUTO..................

2015 Upper Deck Firefly: The Verse Set Checklist
Base Set Checklist
171 cards
PARALLEL CARDS: Foil, Leather

1 Serenity
2 Serenity
3 Serenity
4 Serenity
5 Serenity
6 Serenity
7 Serenity
8 Serenity
9 Serenity
10 The Train Job
11 The Train Job
12 The Train Job
13 The Train Job
14 The Train Job
15 The Train Job
16 The Train Job
17 The Train Job
18 The Train Job
19 Bushwhacked
20 Bushwhacked
21 Bushwhacked
22 Bushwhacked
23 Bushwhacked
24 Bushwhacked
25 Bushwhacked
26 Bushwhacked
27 Bushwhacked
28 Shindig
29 Shindig
30 Shindig
31 Shindig
32 Shindig
33 Shindig
34 Shindig
35 Shindig
36 Shindig
37 Safe
38 Safe
39 Safe
40 Safe
41 Safe
42 Safe
43 Safe
44 Safe
45 Safe
46 Our Mrs. Reynolds
47 Our Mrs. Reynolds
48 Our Mrs. Reynolds
49 Our Mrs. Reynolds
50 Our Mrs. Reynolds
51 Our Mrs. Reynolds
52 Our Mrs. Reynolds
53 Our Mrs. Reynolds
54 Our Mrs. Reynolds
55 Jaynestown
56 Jaynestown
57 Jaynestown
58 Jaynestown
59 Jaynestown
60 Jaynestown
61 Jaynestown
62 Jaynestown
63 Jaynestown
64 Out of Gas
65 Out of Gas
66 Out of Gas
67 Out of Gas
68 Out of Gas
69 Out of Gas
70 Out of Gas
71 Out of Gas
72 Out of Gas
73 Ariel
74 Ariel
75 Ariel
76 Ariel
77 Ariel
78 Ariel
79 Ariel
80 Ariel
81 Ariel
82 War Stories
83 War Stories
84 War Stories
85 War Stories
86 War Stories
87 War Stories
88 War Stories
89 War Stories
90 War Stories
91 Trash
92 Trash
93 Trash
94 Trash
95 Trash
96 Trash
97 Trash
98 Trash
99 Trash
100 The Message
101 The Message
102 The Message
103 The Message
104 The Message
105 The Message
106 The Message
107 The Message
108 The Message
109 Heart of Gold
110 Heart of Gold
111 Heart of Gold
112 Heart of Gold
113 Heart of Gold
114 Heart of Gold
115 Heart of Gold
116 Heart of Gold
117 Heart of Gold
118 Objects In Space
119 Objects In Space
120 Objects In Space
121 Objects In Space
122 Objects In Space
123 Objects In Space
124 Objects In Space
125 Objects In Space
126 Objects In Space
127 Malcolm Reynolds
128 Inara Serra
129 Zoe Washburne
130 Hoban Washburne
131 Kaylee Frye
132 Jayne Cobb
133 River Tam
134 Simon Tam
135 Derrial Book
136 Malcolm Reynolds
137 Inara Serra
138 Zoe Washburne
139 Hoban Washburne
140 Kaylee Frye
141 Jayne Cobb
142 River Tam
143 Simon Tam
144 Derrial Book
145 Alliance Cruiser
146 Carrion House
147 Niska's Skyplex
148 Ariel
149 St. Albans
150 Reaver Ship
151 Ariel City Hospital
152 S.S. Walden
153 Regina
154 Bellerophon
155 Join the Browncoats
156 The Alliance Calls
157 Browncoats Monthly
158 Be On Alert
159 Tales of Serenity - Inara
160 Tales of Serenity - Jayne and Book
161 Tales of Serenity - Malcolm Reynolds
162 Tales of Serenity - Reavers Hunt
163 Serenity Ships
164 Serenity Ships
165 Serenity Shuttle
166 Cry Baby
167 Alliance Cruiser
168 Carrion House
169 Ambulance Ship
170 Alliance Short Range Enforcement Vessel
171 Jubal Early's Ship

Base Autographs Set Checklist
171 cards

1 Matthew Clark
2 Matthew Clark
3 Matthew Clark
4 Matthew Clark
5 Matthew Clark
6 Matthew Clark
7 Matthew Clark
8 Matthew Clark
9 Matthew Clark
10 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
11 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
12 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
13 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
14 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
15 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
16 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
17 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
18 Spencer Brinkerhoff III
19 Mick and Matt Glebe
20 Mick and Matt Glebe
21 Mick and Matt Glebe
22 Mick and Matt Glebe
23 Mick and Matt Glebe
24 Mick and Matt Glebe
25 Mick and Matt Glebe
26 Mick and Matt Glebe
27 Mick and Matt Glebe
28 Karen Hallion
29 Karen Hallion
30 Karen Hallion
31 Karen Hallion
32 Karen Hallion
33 Karen Hallion
34 Karen Hallion
35 Karen Hallion
36 Karen Hallion
37 DeJon Parnell
38 DeJon Parnell
39 DeJon Parnell
40 DeJon Parnell
41 DeJon Parnell
42 DeJon Parnell
43 DeJon Parnell
44 DeJon Parnell
45 DeJon Parnell
46 Harold Edge
47 Harold Edge
48 Harold Edge
49 Harold Edge
50 Harold Edge
51 Harold Edge
52 Harold Edge
53 Harold Edge
54 Harold Edge
55 Patrick Giles
56 Patrick Giles
57 Patrick Giles
58 Patrick Giles
59 Patrick Giles
60 Patrick Giles
61 Patrick Giles
62 Patrick Giles
63 Patrick Giles
64 Matthew Brazier
65 Matthew Brazier
66 Matthew Brazier
67 Matthew Brazier
68 Matthew Brazier
69 Matthew Brazier
70 Matthew Brazier
71 Matthew Brazier
72 Matthew Brazier
73 Bob Petrecca
74 Bob Petrecca
75 Bob Petrecca
76 Bob Petrecca
77 Bob Petrecca
78 Bob Petrecca
79 Bob Petrecca
80 Bob Petrecca
81 Bob Petrecca
82 Kevin Sharpe
83 Kevin Sharpe
84 Kevin Sharpe
85 Kevin Sharpe
86 Kevin Sharpe
87 Kevin Sharpe
88 Kevin Sharpe
89 Kevin Sharpe
90 Kevin Sharpe
91 Bill Pulkovski
92 Bill Pulkovski
93 Bill Pulkovski
94 Bill Pulkovski
95 Bill Pulkovski
96 Bill Pulkovski
97 Bill Pulkovski
98 Bill Pulkovski
99 Bill Pulkovski
100 Rupam Grimoeuvre
101 Rupam Grimoeuvre
102 Rupam Grimoeuvre
103 Rupam Grimoeuvre
104 Rupam Grimoeuvre
105 Rupam Grimoeuvre
106 Rupam Grimoeuvre
107 Rupam Grimoeuvre
108 Rupam Grimoeuvre
109 Lisa Redfern
110 Lisa Redfern
111 Lisa Redfern
112 Lisa Redfern
113 Lisa Redfern
114 Lisa Redfern
115 Lisa Redfern
116 Lisa Redfern
117 Lisa Redfern
118 Tony Santiago
119 Tony Santiago
120 Tony Santiago
121 Tony Santiago
122 Tony Santiago
123 Tony Santiago
124 Tony Santiago
125 Tony Santiago
126 Tony Santiago
127 David Hindelang
128 David Hindelang
129 David Hindelang
130 David Hindelang
131 David Hindelang
132 David Hindelang
133 David Hindelang
134 David Hindelang
135 David Hindelang
136 Tim Shay
137 Tim Shay
138 Tim Shay
139 Tim Shay
140 Tim Shay
141 Tim Shay
142 Tim Shay
143 Tim Shay
144 Tim Shay
145 Joel Gomez
146 Joel Gomez
147 Joel Gomez
148 Joel Gomez
149 Joel Gomez
150 Joel Gomez
151 Joel Gomez
152 Joel Gomez
153 Joel Gomez
154 Joel Gomez
155 Robert Jimenez
156 Robert Jimenez
157 Robert Jimenez
158 Robert Jimenez
159 Robert Jimenez
160 Robert Jimenez
161 Robert Jimenez
162 Robert Jimenez
163 Chris Meeks
164 Chris Meeks
165 Chris Meeks
166 Chris Meeks
167 Chris Meeks
168 Chris Meeks
169 Chris Meeks
170 Chris Meeks
171 Chris Meeks

Actor Autographs Set Checklist
30 cards

AB Adam Baldwin
AD Eddie Adams
AN Andrew Bryniarski
AU Andy Umberger
BB Bonnie Bartlett
BR Blake Robbins
BU Richard Burgi
CJ Carlos Jacott
DC Dennis Cockrum
DS Doug Savant
EA Edward Atterton
FL Fredric Lehne
FR Franc Ross
GH Gregg Henry
GI Gregory Itzin
IH Isabella Hofmann
JR Jeff Ricketts
JS Jewel Staite
KG Kevin Gage
LD Larry Drake
MB Morena Baccarin
MC Melinda Clarke
MF Michael Fairman
MS Mark Sheppard
NF Nathan Fillion
RB Richard Brooks
RG Ron Glass
SM Sean Maher
WC William Converse-Roberts
WO Jonathan Woodward

Dual Actor Autographs Set Checklist
14 cards

BA Edward Atterton
BA Morena Baccarin
BG Adam Baldwin
BG Kevin Gage
FB Andrew Bryniarski
FB Michael Fairman
FM Nathan Fillion
FM Morena Baccarin
FT Nathan Fillion
FT Sean Maher
GM Sean Maher
GM Adam Baldwin
GS Adam Baldwin
GS Ron Glass
HB Ron Glass
HB Morena Baccarin
HC Isabella Hofmann
HC William Converse-Roberts
HF Adam Baldwin
HF Nathan Fillion
LC Melinda Clarke
LC Fredric Lehne
RC Jeff Ricketts
RC Dennis Cockrum
SD Mark Sheppard
SD Larry Drake
WB Jonathan Woodward
WB Richard Burgi

Triple Actor Autographs Set Checklist
8 cards

BJR Blake Robbins
BJR Richard Brooks
BJR Carlos Jacott
FBT Sean Maher
FBT Nathan Fillion
FBT Adam Baldwin
FSF Nathan Fillion
FSF Michael Fairman
FSF Mark Sheppard
GBM Sean Maher
GBM Ron Glass
GBM Adam Baldwin
GRC Sean Maher
GRC Jeff Ricketts
GRC Dennis Cockrum
HFB Ron Glass
HFB Nathan Fillion
HFB Morena Baccarin
RWA Jonathan Woodward
RWA Eddie Adams
RWA Franc Ross
SFD Nathan Fillion
SFD Mark Sheppard
SFD Larry Drake

Patches Set Checklist
42 cards.

F-1 Firefly - Tier 3
F-2 Mal - Tier 3
F-3 Zoe - Tier 2
F-4 Wash - Tier 3
F-5 Kaylee - Tier 2
F-6 Jayne - Tier 3
F-7 Book - Tier 2
F-8 Inara - Tier 1
F-9 River - Tier 1
F-10 Simon - Tier 2
F-11 Blue Sun Corp - Tier 1
F-12 Sheriff Shoulder Patch - Tier 3
F-13 Browncoats - Tier 3
F-14 Ariel EMT Patch - Tier 2
F-15 Ariel Chest Patch - Tier 3
F-16 Alliance Security Shield - Tier 2
F-17 Alliance Flag - Tier 3
F-18 Alliance Soldier Patch - Tier 3
F-19 Alliance Security Patch - Tier 3
F-20 Wash's Lyndono - Tier 3
F-21 Tri-Planet Patch - Tier 3
F-22 Jayne's Hat - Tier 2
F-23 Mal's Pistol - Tier 2
F-24 Wash's Jacket Patch - Tier 1
F-25 Book's Hair - Tier 3
F-26 Zoe's Gun - Tier 3
F-27 Kaylee's Fluffy Dress - Tier 3
F-28 Serenity Control Panel - Tier 2
F-29 Alliance Lieutenant - Tier 3
F-30 Alliance Commander - Tier 2
F-31 Alliance Cruiser - Tier 3
F-32 Jayne's T-Shirt Logo - Tier 3
F-33 ATV Plate - Tier 1
F-34 Jubal Early's Ship - Tier 3
F-35 Kaylee's Teddy - Tier 3
F-36 Jayne's Gun Vera - Tier 1
F-37 Wash's Dinosaurs - Tier 3
F-38 Jayne in Airlock - Tier 3
F-39 Fenced Cows - Tier 2
F-40 Jaynestown Statue - Tier 3
F-41 Mal Waiting - Tier 3
F-42 Serenity - Tier 2

Original Art Autographs Set Checklist
6 cards

OA-DB Derrial Book - Ron Glass
OA-IS Inara Serra - Morena Baccarin
OA-JC Jayne Cobb - Adam Baldwin
OA-KF Kaylee Frye - Jewel Staite
OA-MR Malcolm Reynolds - Nathan Fillion
OA-ST Simon Tam - Sean Maher

Sketch Cards (Character/Ship/Episode) Set Checklist
30 cards

FS-1 Malcolm Reynolds
FS-2 Zoe Washburne
FS-3 Hoban Washburne
FS-4 Inara Serra
FS-5 River Tam
FS-6 Simon Tam
FS-7 Kaylee Frye
FS-8 Derrial Book
FS-9 Jayne Cobb
FS-10 Serenity
FS-11 The Train Job
FS-12 Bushwhacked
FS-13 Shindig
FS-14 Safe
FS-15 Our Mrs Reynolds
FS-16 Jaynestown
FS-17 Out of Gas
FS-18 Ariel
FS-19 War Stories
FS-20 Trash
FS-21 The Message
FS-22 Heart of Gold
FS-23 Objects In Space
FS-24 Serenity
FS-25 Cry Baby
FS-26 Alliance Cruiser
FS-27 Carrion House
FS-28 Jubal Early's Ship
FS-29 Serenity Shuttle
FS-30 Reaver Ship

Regular Sketch Cards Set Checklist
Full artist list shown below.

Regular Sketch Card Artists
Adam Braun
Alan Myers
Alfredo Lopez Jr.
Anastasia Catris
Ashleigh Popplewell
Bianca Thompson
Brad Utterstrom
Brandon Gallo
Brian DeGuire
Brody Williams
Bryan Tillman
Charles Hall
Chris Henderson
Christopher Foulkes
Cleber Lima
Dan MacIsaac
Daniel Gorman
David Hindelang
Deborah Abbott
DeJon Parnell
Elfie Lebouleux
Elton Thomasi
Eric Van Elslande
Eric Fournier
Erik Reeves
Francois Chartier
Gary Kezele
Gemma Magno
Gener Pedrina
George Vega
Gilbert Monsanto
Harold Edge
Irma Suriani Ahmed
James Bukauskas
Jarett Walen
Jasmine Anderson
Jason Sobol
Jeff Chandler
Jeffrey Benitez
Joe Hogan
John Sloboda
Jomar Bulda
Justin Chung
Kate Carleton
Kimberly Dunaway
Lee Bradley
Loren Bobbitt
Lydi Li Tubillara
Marco Carrillo
Mark Spears
Mark LeMieux
Mary Bellamy
Matt Stewart
Matthew Santorelli
Matthew Brazier
Matthew Parmenter
Melissa Piccone
Michael Duron
Mitch Ballard
Patricio Carrasco
Patrick Giles
Raymundo Racho
Rich Molinelli
Robert Jimenez
Roberto Cota Briceno
Rustico Limosinero
Rusty Gilligan
Scott Zirkel
Ted Woods
Tina Berardi
Vanessa Farano
Victor Rodriguez
Vince Sunico
Walter Rice
William Withers
Character/Ship/Episode Sketch Cards Artists
Bobby Breed
Chris Bradberry
Cris Santos
Daniel Gorman
Deborah Abbott
Diana Greenhalgh
Elfie Lebouleux
Elton Thomasi
Eric Van Elslande
Erik Reeves
Gener Pedrina
Gilbert Monsanto
Irma Suriani Ahmed
Jeffrey Benitez
Joe Hogan
Jun Premiro
Kimberly Dunaway
Loren Bobbitt
Lydi Li Tubillara
Mark Spears
Melissa Piccone
Raymundo Racho
Rusty Gilligan
Scott Zirkel
Vince Sunico
Walter Rice
William Withers

Source : 2015 Upper Deck Firefly: The Verse Trading Cards Info (http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2015-upper-deck-firefly-verse-trading)

[Sharard]

There is a small albeit not likely that the auto checklist is missing names I know from some information that the art work for the characters was actor approved. But maybe something changed inbetween that process and the approval process. We can hope. Cardboard connection has missed stuff before

[Tim]

morena, jewel, and fillion though - pretty good.

[John91C]

UD dropped the ball on this one. You can't come out with a "Firefly" set and not have the essential cast autos. No wonder they never released any information on this product. It's a shame because it had the potential to be a huge success.

[gdelan1]

i'll still probably pick up a few boxes, hoping to hit one of the triple autos or a nice sketch

[kerg]

UD dropped the ball on this one.

Looks good to me.

Would it have been nice to get everyone to sign, sure. Who knows why they didn't. Money, time, didn't want to. Unless we find out a company didn't even try to get someone to sign you can't lay fault with said company. And if the retort is 'don't make the set' you could be looking at significantly inflated box prices or almost no sets being made because I don't think there are many where they get everyone to sign.

[kerg]

Here's some pretty Big As# News.........
NO RIVER TAM / SUMMER GLAU AUTOS
NO GINA TORRES/ ZOE AUTOS????
NO ALAN TUDYK/WASH AUTOS?????
NO SAFFRON/ CHRISTINA HENDRICKS AUTOS
NO JOSS WHEDON AUTO..................


Surprised on Glau, Torres, Tudyk given art work was approved. Not surprised on Hendricks since I was told artists couldn't use her likeness on base cards at all.

[rambel]

I'm also curious if these are sticker or on-card autos?

[John91C]

Looks good to me.

Would it have been nice to get everyone to sign, sure. Who knows why they didn't. Money, time, didn't want to. Unless we find out a company didn't even try to get someone to sign you can't lay fault with said company. And if the retort is 'don't make the set' you could be looking at significantly inflated box prices or almost no sets being made because I don't think there are many where they get everyone to sign.

I'm a huge firefly/Serenity fan. I have the auto sets from inkworks. I completely expected the full cast autos in this set. Why can't you blame the card company? They are the ones putting out the product. This has been in the works for awhile and there's a reason they never told the public what to expect from this set.

UD knew if they announced they didn't have the full cast that his product would have been a complete failure. Now that everyone has ordered the product and they've printed it and they are releasing it next week, they decide to let out the checklist.

I pre-ordered a case of this product. I should have expected this crap from UD. There's a reason I stopped collecting UD products.

[buckycap]

I'm also curious if these are sticker or on-card autos?
99.9% sure they will be sticker autos like all UD nonsports products. Plus the fact that there are dual and triple autos which guaranteed will be stickers.

[buckycap]

This release is exactly like ever other UD release. Don't know why people are expecting anything else.

[northwellguy]

I miss Inkworks. :(

I really do.

[kerg]

Why can't you blame the card company? They are the ones putting out the product.

I'm specifically talking about autos. Obviously their intent was for several others to sign given the artwork, but like I said.. who knows why they didn't sign. Until a card company comes out and specifically gives a reason why someone didn't sign, we will never know (and I'm pretty sure a company will never air business negotiations). I think the Chloe Bennet auto for SHIELD is one of the rare cases where a company said why an auto wasn't included.

Now.. crush Upper Deck about not being forthcoming about anything and stickers and a slew of other things, but I can't crush them specifically on who did or didn't sign.

Although.....


On a different point, I wonder if Upper Deck has difficulty signing some people because of their use of stickers. If I'm someone doing autographs, I might not want to sign a bunch of stickers because I have absolutely no idea what those could be slapped on. I sign a card, it's on a card. I sign a sticker and who knows.

[buckycap]

I'm specifically talking about autos. Obviously their intent was for several others to sign given the artwork, but like I said.. who knows why they didn't sign. Until a card company comes out and specifically gives a reason why someone didn't sign, we will never know (and I'm pretty sure a company will never air business negotiations). I think the Chloe Bennet auto for SHIELD is one of the rare cases where a company said why an auto wasn't included.

Now.. crush Upper Deck about not being forthcoming about anything and stickers and a slew of other things, but I can't crush them specifically on who did or didn't sign.

Although.....


On a different point, I wonder if Upper Deck has difficulty signing some people because of their use of stickers. If I'm someone doing autographs, I might not want to sign a bunch of stickers because I have absolutely no idea what those could be slapped on. I sign a card, it's on a card. I sign a sticker and who knows.

With the way most actor's sign nowadays it would just be a bunch of stickers with scribbles on them that no one could read ;)

[Cujobyte]

All of the Firefly auto's have been readily available on ebay the last 6 mo's, and especially the last 2. Fillion's auto is the highest selling among them, yes even more than Summer's.

I am surprised Glau isn't in the set considering she's been doing the comic con circuit, signing literally thousands of auto's. But I don't think the set is a failure by any means. Those that have done a lot of UD sets know it's not just the auto's that sell the product. Hell, some of the relic cards from Guardians outsold all the actor autographs (which is insane to me lol).

I'm looking forward to seeing the sketches by the high end guys on this set tho.

[Brobocop]

I will say that after the car wrecks that were Ant-Man and Avengers, it's nice to see them actually get some of the main cast members into any non-sports product. I will give them that.

[daviswr7]

All of the Firefly auto's have been readily available on ebay the last 6 mo's, and especially the last 2. Fillion's auto is the highest selling among them, yes even more than Summer's.

I am surprised Glau isn't in the set considering she's been doing the comic con circuit, signing literally thousands of auto's. But I don't think the set is a failure by any means. Those that have done a lot of UD sets know it's not just the auto's that sell the product. Hell, some of the relic cards from Guardians outsold all the actor autographs (which is insane to me lol).

I'm looking forward to seeing the sketches by the high end guys on this set tho.

Sketches should be nice because it's not Star Wars or Marvel whose sketches are everywhere right now. Relic cards sell great if you pull the SP, otherwise they are right up there with the manufactured medallions and patches that Topps puts out..

[poita]

It has been a while since I watched Firefly but, outside the main cast, who are the rest of those signers?

Were they notable characters, or just fifth from the left in an angry mob for two seconds of screen time?

[xbignick]

It has been a while since I watched Firefly but, outside the main cast, who are the rest of those signers?

Were they notable characters, or just fifth from the left in an angry mob for two seconds of screen time?

I had to google around 70% of the list, some are notable as in you'll remember them (like the old guy who took them hostage). Others, like Eddie Adams, appeared for a few minutes only (he was the browncoat who died in the beginning of the pilot).

[rickstaman05]

What's odd is both Tudyk and Glau are convention goers. It looks like UD at least tried to get them all (besides Christina) with the sketch autographs they approved.

[Hippiekmt]

While they don't have everyone of the main cast, they have most. Plus, while the main cast is great, I love the supporting actors autos....many of them have been in several other "big" things.
Plus in a series that only latest 12 episodes, I'm actually surprised at all that did sign....
Maybe I've watched too many Shows or seen too many movies...while they may not be household names in Firefly........I knew all of these without looking at IDM!

Maybe, since I have all of the Inkworks Firefly & Serenity autos, I don't mind as much but I like the supporting cast autos.

AB Adam Baldwin
AD Eddie Adams
AN Andrew Bryniarski..........Leatherface- Texas Chainsaw movies
AU Andy Umberger............Buffy, Mad Men, American Horror Story
BB Bonnie Bartlett.......great character in Firefly..Patience
BR Blake Robbins
BU Richard Burgi....this guys been in ton of stuff..Chuck, Friday the 13th
CJ Carlos Jacott.....another Buffy/Angel Alumni..plus a ton of other stuff
DC Dennis Cockrum
DS Doug Savant......Melrose Place- the original one, 24
EA Edward Atterton
FL Fredric Lehne.......LOST, Supernatural
FR Franc Ross....another Buffy Alumni.........where's Monte's beard?
GH Gregg Henry......Guardians of the Galaxy, the Following
GI Gregory Itzin..........24
IH Isabella Hofmann...........was just in The Flash
JR Jeff Ricketts............Angel....Whedon people always had a job
JS Jewel Staite
KG Kevin Gage
LD Larry Drake..........com'on..Dr Giggles...awesome horror flick
MB Morena Baccarin
MC Melinda Clarke........a ton of stuff..Vampire Diaries, Xena
MF Michael Fairman
MS Mark Sheppard...Supernatural, Wharehouse 13
NF Nathan Fillion
RB Richard Brooks...I remember him from one of the Crow movies
RG Ron Glass
SM Sean Maher
WC William Converse-Roberts
WO Jonathan Woodward.......only actor to appear in all 3 Whedon's Buffy, Angel & Firefly

[Sarek]

I was upset to see that a few I had hoped for Hadn't signed......

Had to edit original post after noticing Zoe & Wash were not signing.....

Summer Glau only has A Serenity Auto & it's Pricey.....

was also Hoping Joss had signed..... his from Buffy costs an Arm & a Leg.....

a Signed Auto from Joss would've made me Happy as hell.....

Hendricks would've be a decent seller....


Over all, I much happier about this set than most....

I Hope Sales will be Strong.....

30 Autographs aren't Bad from UD from what I've seen.....:)!

most have been happy with 6-8 Autos from an Entertainment Product


Then the Artist Auto set looks pretty good.....

I don't know a lot of them..... but it looks fantastic

Lots to chase... & UNLIKE Star Wars....this is ONLY the 3rd set
AND The First One in 10 Years......

now on to worrying how many GOOD Cast Autos I will Pull.... & Killer Sketch cards......


who Knows...there maybe a surprise or two still in there......
Pretty sure I won't pull a Harrison Ford Auto... but maybe I can spot him in a sketch card. Firefly Fans will get that one.... LOL :p

[jjsmallvillelvr]

UD dropped the ball on this one. You can't come out with a "Firefly" set and not have the essential cast autos. No wonder they never released any information on this product. It's a shame because it had the potential to be a huge success.
Actually, they can do whatever they want.
I'm a huge firefly/Serenity fan. I have the auto sets from inkworks. I completely expected the full cast autos in this set. Why can't you blame the card company? They are the ones putting out the product. This has been in the works for awhile and there's a reason they never told the public what to expect from this set.

UD knew if they announced they didn't have the full cast that his product would have been a complete failure. Now that everyone has ordered the product and they've printed it and they are releasing it next week, they decide to let out the checklist.

I pre-ordered a case of this product. I should have expected this crap from UD. There's a reason I stopped collecting UD products.
Im sorry but this is just ridiculus. Im glad you are a huge fan, but you cant ever just expect a set to have every main character. I dont know if you could even find a single set that has every main character. Considering we get any autos i think we should feel lucky for what we do get. Its so much easier to get autos nowadays. But theres alot of the main cast and thats something. Who knows why they didnt get them all, but they didnt have to include any autos if they didnt want. I think having sketches will help alot. But saying you cant make a set just becuase you dont have every actor is absurd. Sometimes I'm dissapointed when an auto I wanted is absent, but I just get excited for what we do get! Not you specifically, this particular 'whine' has been heard many time, but people need to be grateful for what we get and not always freak out over what we dont.

Ps. Checklists are almost always released right before the set, i dont think they were trying to be shady and steal your money. Sell your case if yiu hate it that bad.

[Sharard]

I concur with points made here about autos. We have no idea what goes into getting actors auto into a non sport card set. some here acting like UD told Torres or Summer.. Na we don't need your autos in this set though we went to the trouble to have you approve a card to be signed.

Im not saying upper deck is a great company, but common sense says they want the autos in the set that will help it sell in the start and in the long run. And to allow it to ruin the fun that set looks like it will offer is your choice.

[Jedi1823]

WO Jonathan Woodward.......only actor to appear in all 3 Whedon's Buffy, Angel & Firefly

Jeff Rickets, Carlos Jacott, and Andy Umberger also did it.

Even without Tudyk, Torres, and Glau, it's a damn good auto lineup.

[AceGambit3]

6 people from the Serenity as well as 5 well known TV actors/actresses and a bunch of others......I'll admit I'm one of the first people willing to throw UD under the bus, get behind the wheel and continually go over them but for this set, they did pretty good.

Only real surprise for me on not signing for this set is Alan Tudyk considering not only his con presence but his attachment to Firefly and you gotta figure Fillion would have mentioned to him "Hey did you know they are doing a new firefly card set?' but 6/9 of main cast is not bad and more like with what UD should be striving for with their non sports sets.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Summer glau just signed for arrow so i thought it was kinda weird she didnt sign, however that may be the reason she didnt. Too many cards to sign, or maybe didnt want that many of her auto cards out there, or is it possible cze could keep her from signing for a certain amount of time so that people would buy arrow for her. Or something like that.

[Sharard]

The only head scratcher is Tudyk . I have been to two of his panels last two years at comic cons and he just so loved talking about firefly and the fans that follow the show. He talked up the games including Firefly online. I am still hoping even though its a small 1% chance that he's in the set and the info out there just might be missing a few autos.

[Wolf8MeVillie]

Tudyk gave away a ton of autographs at the last panel I saw with him, and signed a ton of stuff for $40 a pop at the con. He also gave away a lot of autographs from his gofundme thing for ConMan... it was one of the prizes for donating money. I think he doesn't like the idea of Upper Deck profiting off of his autograph.

[John91C]

Actually, they can do whatever they want.

Im sorry but this is just ridiculus. Im glad you are a huge fan, but you cant ever just expect a set to have every main character. I dont know if you could even find a single set that has every main character. Considering we get any autos i think we should feel lucky for what we do get. Its so much easier to get autos nowadays. But theres alot of the main cast and thats something. Who knows why they didnt get them all, but they didnt have to include any autos if they didnt want. I think having sketches will help alot. But saying you cant make a set just becuase you dont have every actor is absurd. Sometimes I'm dissapointed when an auto I wanted is absent, but I just get excited for what we do get! Not you specifically, this particular 'whine' has been heard many time, but people need to be grateful for what we get and not always freak out over what we dont.

Ps. Checklists are almost always released right before the set, i dont think they were trying to be shady and steal your money. Sell your case if yiu hate it that bad.

Inkworks did it. Thus the reason why those auto prices are so high. Also to say they didn't have to include any autos is absurd. What's the point of making a non-sport set with no autos, especially one that revolves around "Hollywood". Having sketches will be the only saving grace but do you know the ratio of sketches to packs? Again some transparency in the product would have been nice. I also never said I wanted every actor in the show, just the main cast. They got Fillion, who is one of the hardest to commit. The only auto that I would have been okay with not being in there would have been Morena, as she doesn't sign much for card companies and she cancels just about every con. Every other main character signs for other sets but yet UD releases a product (for which they became famous for) and drops the ball on it.

[Sharard]

Tudyk gave away a ton of autographs at the last panel I saw with him, and signed a ton of stuff for $40 a pop at the con. He also gave away a lot of autographs from his gofundme thing for ConMan... it was one of the prizes for donating money. I think he doesn't like the idea of Upper Deck profiting off of his autograph.

Only problem with that is that he approved the artwork for his auto for this set. I cant say my source till after release. All the artwork for the autos where actor approved.

[Sharard]

Inkworks did it. Thus the reason why those auto prices are so high. Also to say they didn't have to include any autos is absurd. What's the point of making a non-sport set with no autos, especially one that revolves around "Hollywood". Having sketches will be the only saving grace but do you know the ratio of sketches to packs? Again some transparency in the product would have been nice. I also never said I wanted every actor in the show, just the main cast. They got Fillion, who is one of the hardest to commit. The only auto that I would have been okay with not being in there would have been Morena, as she doesn't sign much for card companies and she cancels just about every con. Every other main character signs for other sets but yet UD releases a product (for which they became famous for) and drops the ball on it.

That's a pretty weak argument of trying to compare a release from almost 10 years ago. The market and environment is so much different than it was back then.. You have no idea if inkworks was around today that they could get all of them today like they did way back when.

[kerg]

Inkworks did it. Thus the reason why those auto prices are so high.

Simpsons did it...

Also talking about nearly 10 years ago. Times change, actors/actresses get more famous which causes them to possibly charge more or be less willing to sign. You have more cons now for signing opportunities. Maybe they are bored with Firefly, maybe Joss did a double decker in their toilet so they are pissed off with Firefly. Maybe they don't like Upper Deck or they don't like stickers.

[kerg]

Only problem with that is that he approved the artwork for his auto for this set. I cant say my source till after release. All the artwork for the autos where actor approved.

Tim Shay posted approved artwork of the 9 people so not a huge secret.

[John91C]

That's a pretty weak argument of trying to compare a release from almost 10 years ago. The market and environment is so much different than it was back then.. You have no idea if inkworks was around today that they could get all of them today like they did way back when.

I wasn't trying to argue. He said there wasn't a set that had all the main actors sign for them. I just proved that for this exact same "firefly" set another company was able to get complete main cast autos. Doesn't matter if it was 10 years ago. It was harder to get autos 10 years ago so actually what inkworks did was simply amazing (non-sports was not as popular then)!

Also Cryptozoic (TWD S1, BBT) did a pretty decent job getting main cast autos.

[kerg]

It was harder to get autos 10 years ago.

Just curious why you think it was harder to get autos 10 years ago?

[Sharard]

Looking forward to the sketch cards. Good artist list.

[jjsmallvillelvr]

I wasn't trying to argue. He said there wasn't a set that had all the main actors sign for them. I just proved that for this exact same "firefly" set another company was able to get complete main cast autos. Doesn't matter if it was 10 years ago. It was harder to get autos 10 years ago so actually what inkworks did was simply amazing (non-sports was not as popular then)!

Also Cryptozoic (TWD S1, BBT) did a pretty decent job getting main cast autos.

I'm a she not a he. And they didn't get them all in one set tho. They were spread across two sets, I believe. A firefly set, and a serenity set. Who knows maybe UD is saving them for a second release.

[Sharard]

I wasn't trying to argue. He said there wasn't a set that had all the main actors sign for them. I just proved that for this exact same "firefly" set another company was able to get complete main cast autos. Doesn't matter if it was 10 years ago. It was harder to get autos 10 years ago so actually what inkworks did was simply amazing (non-sports was not as popular then)!

Also Cryptozoic (TWD S1, BBT) did a pretty decent job getting main cast autos.

Sighs, saying it doesn't matter it happened 10 years ago says how unrealistic your view is. Can't argue with a closed mind. You didn't address my point that if Inkworks was doing the same set today, would they have same access and success in getting all the same autos. All the actors lives has changed, and who knows what goes into a decision today for an actor to sign a card set. I'm not going to pretend I know.

And autos where not harder to get 10 years ago, least I didn't have trouble getting the ones I wanted.

[Tim]

I wasn't trying to argue. He said there wasn't a set that had all the main actors sign for them. I just proved that for this exact same "firefly" set another company was able to get complete main cast autos. Doesn't matter if it was 10 years ago. It was harder to get autos 10 years ago so actually what inkworks did was simply amazing (non-sports was not as popular then)!

Also Cryptozoic (TWD S1, BBT) did a pretty decent job getting main cast autos.

This isn't even accurate - Lincoln didn't sign for TWD S1, and Cuoco passed on BBT S5/6. If you are going to say those are decent, then why not this new UD FF? They got the top 2 and yes missed a handful of others, but getting the top 2 is big.

And look at the so-called great Inkworks: let's look at Alias S3 and S4. Hmmmm, no Garner. But Inkworks got her for S1 and S2. Guess her star had risen to levels that she didn't want to sign any more. Point is the situation changed for her from S2 to S3 so Inkworks "failed" in getting her? Situations have changed perhaps with Firefly actors too - you never know. Bottom line is Inkworks had some misses too - it happens. This FF set from UD will be decent - with Fillion, Morena and the a lot of the other content.

[John91C]

Sighs, saying it doesn't matter it happened 10 years ago says how unrealistic your view is. Can't argue with a closed mind. You didn't address my point that if Inkworks was doing the same set today, would they have same access and success in getting all the same autos. All the actors lives has changed, and who knows what goes into a decision today for an actor to sign a card set. I'm not going to pretend I know.

And autos where not harder to get 10 years ago, least I didn't have trouble getting the ones I wanted.

What's the point of discussing whether inkworks could have the same access today. We will never know. What I do know is the UD did not get 4 MAIN character/actors from the series. If we don't include Hendricks (as she wasn't a "main" character") then 3 MAIN characters. I can understand not getting 1 but 3?

I'm just a fan "expecting" something great from a series that ended over 10 years ago. So I guess that makes me closed-minded. If a major trading card company is going to come out with a set from a very well loved series and then they produce that checklist, well it's a fail in my opinion.

Will this set be successful? It would be a yes in the after market. I do know UD didn't sell out since they only produced enough for orders. I know 3 lcs near me that didn't order any (and they do heavy non-sports). The sketch cards will do well because the artist list is very stacked. Again we have no idea how many sketch cards are in a case. Is it the usual auto, costume card, sketch card per box that we've been seeing lately?

Tim: Yes they didn't get Lincoln for S1 but Cryptozoic got every other main character, they included redemptions for full badge/pieces of badges. They actually communicated very well for a company bringing out the 1st of the series product. While the show was still being made. Even Holden wasn't included but they included her in S2 on the S1 design. She didn't turn her cards in on time. This series has been over for 10 years. Every one of these actors makes con appearances. Fillion is one of the hardest to track and get as well as Morena. So they were able to get 2 of the biggest but not the others? Doesn't make any sense. Again I think UD is banking on people wanting sketch cards instead of autos. I'm the exact opposite. I'm tired of all these sketch cards ... I want the autos. But I can see I'm in the minority.

For BBT S1 they had every main character actor. This was while the show was still "hot".

I never said getting the "top" makes a set big. I would say for actor autos the new FF would be a fail as well, just like the movie.
Also I think you're missing the point. We're not talking about multiple season sets. This will probably be the only set of Firefly we see. UD will probably not be coming out with a S2. So you're example of Alias S3&S4 is irrelevant because they had the major ones for S1.

Again if they could not get 1 main actor/actress that would be fine. But we're talking about 40-50% of the main cast not signed.

[John91C]

Just curious why you think it was harder to get autos 10 years ago?

Because non-sports was not as popular. There weren't a lot of companies producing sets. Inkworks was the only major player and they did a pretty decent job getting autos.

[Spider-Fan]

What's the point of discussing whether inkworks could have the same access today. We will never know. What I do know is the UD did not get 4 MAIN character/actors from the series. If we don't include Hendricks (as she wasn't a "main" character") then 3 MAIN characters. I can understand not getting 1 but 3?

I'm just a fan "expecting" something great from a series that ended over 10 years ago. So I guess that makes me closed-minded. If a major trading card company is going to come out with a set from a very well loved series and then they produce that checklist, well it's a fail in my opinion.

Will this set be successful? It would be a yes in the after market. I do know UD didn't sell out since they only produced enough for orders. I know 3 lcs near me that didn't order any (and they do heavy non-sports). The sketch cards will do well because the artist list is very stacked. Again we have no idea how many sketch cards are in a case. Is it the usual auto, costume card, sketch card per box that we've been seeing lately?

Tim: Yes they didn't get Lincoln for S1 but Cryptozoic got every other main character, they included redemptions for full badge/pieces of badges. They actually communicated very well for a company bringing out the 1st of the series product. While the show was still being made. Even Holden wasn't included but they included her in S2 on the S1 design. She didn't turn her cards in on time. This series has been over for 10 years. Every one of these actors makes con appearances. Fillion is one of the hardest to track and get as well as Morena. So they were able to get 2 of the biggest but not the others? Doesn't make any sense. Again I think UD is banking on people wanting sketch cards instead of autos. I'm the exact opposite. I'm tired of all these sketch cards ... I want the autos. But I can see I'm in the minority.

For BBT S1 they had every main character actor. This was while the show was still "hot".

I never said getting the "top" makes a set big. I would say for actor autos the new FF would be a fail as well, just like the movie.
Also I think you're missing the point. We're not talking about multiple season sets. This will probably be the only set of Firefly we see. UD will probably not be coming out with a S2. So you're example of Alias S3&S4 is irrelevant because they had the major ones for S1.

Again if they could not get 1 main actor/actress that would be fine. But we're talking about 40-50% of the main cast not signed.

Interesting vcomment. I was under the impression that ithe is still the #1 comedy on television. Just the cards are hot anymore. Happens...

[Sharard]

Well John, your whole point of view summed up is that since something happened 10 years ago it should happen today the same way. So Ill leave this argument. Cant have a logical discussion with that in mind. Your whole point of view is based on things that happened in the past. Guess you get mad at a company cause they do a star trek set but don't get Nimoy auto or Gene Rodenberry auto in it cause they where able to long time ago. I know all the actors (of Firefly) are still alive but doesn't change that their lives are changed today with different paths and are different people now than they were then.

Inkworks did a great Job, I have the auto set too from inkworks, but admit I bought them as a set from a great forum person here. Its one of my favorite pieces. I got it cause I knew how tough it may be to get all the autos from them in todays world and time. And it was displayed nicely.

Im looking forward to the release. And make no doubt, Im very disappointed that the likes of torres and Tuydk seem not be in the set. But I understand that todays world of non sports cards are ever changing, for reasons that are between the companies and the actors, sometimes they just don't sign for a product.

[John91C]

My viewpoint is that there are companies that are able to get main cast autos. You're the one taking it to the extreme of saying I'm going to get mad if they don't include dead actors. Your logic has no valid points because companies do produce signatures of dead actors, just look at the Rodenberry cut autos. This is going above and beyond. UD hasn't even reached that level. They produced a product with 50% of the main cast not signing and filling it with B list autos. We all know there are filler autos in every product. UD put this product out for the sketch cards.

I was validating my point that there are companies out there producing autos of the main characters. I mentioned a company being able to produce main cast autographs from 10 years ago. The point being that even 10 years ago it was able to be done. It's easier now to get autos for most of these Hollywood actors. If there was a company coming out with a product in today's time (i.e. Firefly, Star Trek) then they should be getting 90% of the cast autos. Not filling the auto list with B list stars. There's plenty of companies that still produce this level of achievement (Crypto, Rittenhouse).

The thing is we know why UD put this product out there and it wasn't for the autos (we can see that because of the checklist). This product was put out to maximize sketch card profitability for UD.

Spider-fan: What I meant by the show being hot was that Crypto was able to come out with a product with main cast autos in their premiere series (S1&2) all the while the show was "still" hot. Meaning at the time they released the product the show was still #1.

I'm done with discussing this. I'm in the minority here in my opinion. I'm a huge fan of this show and I also have the full auto sets from Firefly and Serenity. I won't be going for a master collection of this. I'll collect the autos and sell the rest off.

[aggie4ever]

Not really sure why so many people are arguing back and forth, trying to prove that their point of view is the right one. Many people are happy with this set as it stands, good for them. Many people are not happy that some of the main cast don't have autos, good for them. Nothing wrong with either point of view.

IMO, the big auto checklist is good for fans of the show who want to collect a big set. However, the downside is that it lowers the value you are receiving in a case. If you get 6 actor autos in a case, it's going to take you 5 cases to make a set, and on average you will get only 1 main cast auto per case. At $1200/case, that's going to be pretty rough, having mostly $20 autos. The big autos will be worth a lot though.

It will be interesting to see how popular the sketch cards are, and if they add enough value to make opening a case worthwhile. Mostly though, I hope UD posts the odds of autos and sketches soon, until I have that information, I'll be passing on buying a case and just buying singles.

[MankindRam]

I did 51 Sketch Cards for this release if anyone who collects my artwork cares? 48 of them were approved. :flex:

[Jorgon]

I did 51 Sketch Cards for this release if anyone who collects my artwork cares? 48 of them were approved. :flex:

Congrats! Can't wait to see some of them. BTW, I LOVED your work with DC Villians.

[Wyrm]

What's odd is both Tudyk and Glau are convention goers. It looks like UD at least tried to get them all (besides Christina) with the sketch autographs they approved.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tudyk burned his hand out signing everything he's obligated to sign for his "Con Man" project. There are almost 7000 posters alone that he's signing in fulfillment of the Indiegogo funding for that. I'm sure he hates not being able to sign for this set, because having met him, he's a dude who really cares about the fans.

[Bryanjs14]

Well John, your whole point of view summed up is that since something happened 10 years ago it should happen today the same way. So Ill leave this argument. Cant have a logical discussion with that in mind. Your whole point of view is based on things that happened in the past. Guess you get mad at a company cause they do a star trek set but don't get Nimoy auto or Gene Rodenberry auto in it cause they where able to long time ago. I know all the actors (of Firefly) are still alive but doesn't change that their lives are changed today with different paths and are different people now than they were then.

Inkworks did a great Job, I have the auto set too from inkworks, but admit I bought them as a set from a great forum person here. Its one of my favorite pieces. I got it cause I knew how tough it may be to get all the autos from them in todays world and time. And it was displayed nicely.

Im looking forward to the release. And make no doubt, Im very disappointed that the likes of torres and Tuydk seem not be in the set. But I understand that todays world of non sports cards are ever changing, for reasons that are between the companies and the actors, sometimes they just don't sign for a product.

I like that part and agree 100%
:D:D:D

[Chuck Bartowski]

So is the release date the 14th or the 21st...I've seen both dates?

[chilly55]

So, the question I am going to throw out there, how did Cryptozoic get Summer Glau to sign for the upcoming Arrow Season 2 release and UD couldn't get her to sign the Firefly release?

I do like that there are new auto's to go after, but if Crypto can get her, what's UD's excuse?

Bill

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[Sharard]

So, the question I am going to throw out there, how did Cryptozoic get Summer Glau to sign for the upcoming Arrow Season 2 release and UD couldn't get her to sign the Firefly release?

I do like that there are new auto's to go after, but if Crypto can get her, what's UD's excuse?

Bill

http://i60.tinypic.com/95wpoo.jpg

You prolly have your reason right there. Maybe she didn't want to have her auto in two sets at the same time, or maybe UD has the same reason. We really don't know, the reasons are all guesses. It could have just as much her not wanting to sign for 2 sets in the same time frame. Not saying UD is innocent or anything, just plain don't know. I really cant recall when a high profile character signed for two sets that came out around the same time.

[gdelan1]

maybe crypto offered more $ than UD for her to sign.

[rickstaman05]

I did 51 Sketch Cards for this release if anyone who collects my artwork cares? 48 of them were approved. :flex:

That seems like a great percentage approved. Congrats!

[Nicnac]

maybe crypto offered more $ than UD for her to sign.

^ funny that someone had to say what is most likely the simplest reason.

[Spider-Fan]

^ funny that someone had to say what is most likely the simplest reason.

Smaller company, profit margins are less important. Business 101. I assume it's the case most of the time.

A new art based set... expensive to produce compared to screen captures...

[chilly55]

maybe crypto offered more $ than UD for her to sign.

That's what I was thinking. Hopefully the Arrow auto won't be SP, but knowing Crypto, bigger names usually are.

Bill

[WOLFMOON1970]

So happy Summer didn't sign...that means my Inkworks SERENITY Summer auto that I have had for a decade will hold it's value! :)! It is exactly why I am happy Hannigan never signed another Buffy card! :)!
Look at all the Star Trek autos that the main cast have signed...over...and over...and over...and over...you can't even give them away!

[kerg]

Look at all the Star Trek autos that the main cast have signed...over...and over...and over...and over...you can't even give them away!

Since I'd hate for you to give them away, I'll give you a dollar for every main cast auto you have.

[Sharard]

I read that at a panel this weekend Nathan said the cast is open to a second season of Firefly. Doubt ever happen but cool to know they are up for it.

[MankindRam]

Thanks to those that gave me some "Congrats." I'll show the cards when UD gives me the ok.

[rickstaman05]

Looks like the date has moved to 10/21 (Which matches Blowout) on some of the sites that had 10/15. Here's hoping...

[bradu]

I'll have one AP for this set, I've yet to draw it. Guess I'll probably take a commission for it for whatever character is chosen.

[MankindRam]

I have 4 AP cards for this set if anyone is truly interested. They are commission able.

[Sarek]

Found on another forum.......

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12094789_534511410048903_4798456202801313869_o.jpg

[Zerostreet]

Just received confirmation that my boxes shipped!

Also, wanted to share this special blue foil promo version of one of my cards from the set that was given out at the Philly Non-Sports Show this past weekend. Here's a pic:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQznvzSUcAAdiUi.jpg

[Hippiekmt]

Looks like the date has moved to 10/21 (Which matches Blowout) on some of the sites that had 10/15. Here's hoping...

It arrives tomorrow...confirmed by UPS that cases will arrive at shop.

[glen87]

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/non-sport-box-breaks/931560-upper-deck-fire-fly-case-break-sneak-peak.html

[John91C]

ouch one main cast auto per case.

[Wolf8MeVillie]

I am really worried about this product after seeing Upper Deck break a case.... either this stuff is gonna suck, or Upper Deck just used a poor example for representing this product!

[Sarek]

Scared to Death myself................... Not Breaking this...........

[Hippiekmt]

17 autos in a case from UD...that's pretty good.
I don't care for any "patch" card regardless of the product.

However..if you are a fan of the show....a firefly/serenity collector, this is a good line up and it has someone from just about every episode.

[John91C]

17 autos in a case from UD...that's pretty good.
I don't care for any "patch" card regardless of the product.

However..if you are a fan of the show....a firefly/serenity collector, this is a good line up and it has someone from just about every episode.

17 autos that will be worth $5/each. It will be easy to get the master auto set!

[Sarek]

17 autos that will be worth $5/each. It will be easy to get the master auto set!

Badger may reach the Lofty heights of $15....
He's in Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica and about a thousand other shows
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[Sharard]

I want to see the wrappers or boxes to see the odds on the print run on these. I'm not shocked only one cast per case. I mean how many star war cases you see Luke and Leia , we're happy to get one big name.

[Wolf8MeVillie]

and manufactured patches do NOT count as a hit... as a Firefly fan I was looking forward to this product... but I hope to break even flipping these cases....

[Sarek]

It's release day & I see promos & The Kaylee sketch on eBay....

It's ok, I can afford the Promo........

I lost bigger on the sketch than I thought..........

[Scifi Cards]

The sketch is an AP, so it was never in a box anyway.

Ed

[Sharard]

And if patient and like the AP , wait it out. I remember josemo67 wanted 1300 for tha AP for a Tim shay slave leia from masterworks and I offered 850 and he turned it down like 5 months a ago. . Now asking 549 and still there on eBay. That taught me a lesson to be patient on some of these high end sketches.

[Zerostreet]

I'm surprised they didn't show sketch cards. I did 25 of them. Not sure of the odds but I thought it'd be one per box?

[Chuck Bartowski]

Hopefully I'll be opening a case when I get home from work tonight.

[Cujobyte]

And if patient and like the AP , wait it out. I remember josemo67 wanted 1300 for tha AP for a Tim shay slave leia from masterworks and I offered 850 and he turned it down like 5 months a ago. . Now asking 549 and still there on eBay. That taught me a lesson to be patient on some of these high end sketches.

+1. There's a few people out there trying to flip AP's and personally that's just awful imo.

[kerg]

+1. There's a few people out there trying to flip AP's and personally that's just awful imo.

I find the practice distasteful. If heard some stories of artists dealing with flippers where they can get pretty demanding. I think artists get beat up enough dealing with companies that they don't need to deal with flippers trying to profit off them.

[Sharard]

wow, not a posted break of any of this anywhere that I can find. Sure wish we knew the print run on this. Not much on ebay at all.

[Spider-Fan]

I find the practice distasteful. If heard some stories of artists dealing with flippers where they can get pretty demanding. I think artists get beat up enough dealing with companies that they don't need to deal with flippers trying to profit off them.

I honestly have mixed opinions on the subject. Whether the practice is acceptable or detestable depends a lot on how it is handled by the commissioner. Are they misrepresenting their intent, claiming is for their collection but always planning to flip? Did they haggle down the price?

I mean, at the end of the day, what is the difference between an art agent and a flipper? The art agent has no risk, the flipping takes on the full risk.

I know many artists that are sitting on tons of blank APs. If I'm willing to pay their asking price to commission those cards, what do they care if I put them in a binder or on ebay? The artist is getting his (or her) full asking price and I'm taking the risk that I could be stuck with the commissioned cards. He (or she) may feel like a chump if they see I sold the cards for much more than I paid, but at the same time if the artist decided to draw on those cards and sell the completed cards himself (or herself), they could end up taking a lower price or the cards going unsold. Some might argue the flipper is providing a service to the artist.

Just random thoughts on the subject...

[Zerostreet]

I see lots of sketches listed already on ebay. Here are a couple of mine.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/Screen%20Shot%202015-10-21%20at%204.38.45%20PM.png

[TimShay]

Very cool to see this set coming out, happy to be a part of it.
Here's all 9 of my "Artist Autograph Cards".
They gave my auto cards a more Western Look, so they are easy to tell apart from the art on the Actor Autograph Cards.
http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/10stroke/Shay%20Firefly%20Artist%20Auto%209-up%20Set.jpg

[chris meeks]

Hopefully I'll be opening a case when I get home from work tonight.

If you don't mind, could you post images of the box and card packs? I haven't seen any images of the actual product yet.

[rickstaman05]

Hopefully I'll be opening a case when I get home from work tonight.
Good luck! Hopefully you do better than one main autograph. However, having a tonne of cast you couldn't get in the first sets is nice. Oh, and hopefully you get a nice sketch, at least!
Very cool to see this set coming out, happy to be a part of it.
Here's all 9 of my "Artist Autograph Cards".
They gave my auto cards a more Western Look, so they are easy to tell apart from the art on the Actor Autograph Cards.
http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/10stroke/Shay%20Firefly%20Artist%20Auto%209-up%20Set.jpg
They look great!

[Hippiekmt]

Very cool to see this set coming out, happy to be a part of it.
Here's all 9 of my "Artist Autograph Cards".
They gave my auto cards a more Western Look, so they are easy to tell apart from the art on the Actor Autograph Cards.
http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/10stroke/Shay%20Firefly%20Artist%20Auto%209-up%20Set.jpg

Tim,
Pulled your auto River card.....

[Sharard]

I honestly have mixed opinions on the subject. Whether the practice is acceptable or detestable depends a lot on how it is handled by the commissioner. Are they misrepresenting their intent, claiming is for their collection but always planning to flip? Did they haggle down the price?

I mean, at the end of the day, what is the difference between an art agent and a flipper? The art agent has no risk, the flipping takes on the full risk.

I know many artists that are sitting on tons of blank APs. If I'm willing to pay their asking price to commission those cards, what do they care if I put them in a binder or on ebay? The artist is getting his (or her) full asking price and I'm taking the risk that I could be stuck with the commissioned cards. He (or she) may feel like a chump if they see I sold the cards for much more than I paid, but at the same time if the artist decided to draw on those cards and sell the completed cards himself (or herself), they could end up taking a lower price or the cards going unsold. Some might argue the flipper is providing a service to the artist.

Just random thoughts on the subject...

Some salient points there. Your point was spot on with what you said, like the example I gave about the Tim shay AP piece. The seller over 5 months ago could have sold it to me for 850, now I feel silly offering that when I see what hes asking now. But all that time, The artist was paid what he asked form and the seller still has his funds tied up in that one card for all this time.

[Zerostreet]

One (of only 3) of my AP's
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/firefly%20inara%201.jpg

[gamboooler]

One (of only 3) of my AP's
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/firefly%20inara%201.jpg

That's awesome, really nice work.

[Sarek]

Some salient points there. Your point was spot on with what you said, like the example I gave about the Tim shay AP piece. The seller over 5 months ago could have sold it to me for 850, now I feel silly offering that when I see what hes asking now. But all that time, The artist was paid what he asked form and the seller still has his funds tied up in that one card for all this time.

He has some Good Trek stuff, but he seems to be marking down his Star wars stuff to move.......

I found some references to him on Star Wars Masterwork board here & the artists seem please with his way of buying...

I think he just wants to move out of Star Wars....he blasted Star Wars last 2 releases on another forum....

[Sharard]

He has some Good Trek stuff, but he seems to be marking down his Star wars stuff to move.......

I found some references to him on Star Wars Masterwork board here & the artists seem please with his way of buying...

I think he just wants to move out of Star Wars....he blasted Star Wars last 2 releases on another forum....

I bet he regretted not accepting my 850 offer though. I might even paid more but he just declined it with no counter offer. I love both Series.

[Sarek]

his Star Wars is 30% off

most of his Trek is not on Sale......

too bad, some trek Boxes are good but his price is Crazy IMO. 1701 isn't that big of a deal to me.

now back to Firefly.....

a few Art Cards have shown up w/ a cast auto...... how rare are those anyone know?

[John91C]

Here's my break, bought a case but sold 6 of my boxes.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/non-sport-box-breaks/931845-ud-firefly-verse-6-box-break.html

[xbignick]

So are those Shay cards actual artwork signed or prints?

[Sarek]

signed, like the Hobbit Haun Actor Autos
...... seen 3 or 4 so far.......... One Inara, 2 Kaylee & one Hero Of Canton...the Man they call Jayne.

[Sarek]

THERE ARE THESE

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mkcAAOSw~bFWKBrw/s-l1600.jpg

[John91C]

So are those Shay cards actual artwork signed or prints?

signed prints. I contacted Tim and he said the originals are 5x7's and UD gave them back.

[Sarek]

sorry if they was a misunderstanding ...I meant like these....

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/G0cAAOSwv0tVW57P/s-l1600.jpg

[Scifi Cards]

I busted a case and am not sure what was wrong with the Upper Deck sample case.

I pulled

12 standard single autos
1 Portrait variant auto (Jayne)
6 Dual Autos
1 Dual Auto redemption (Jayne and Book)
1 Triple Auto
14 Artist Auto Parallels
12 Patch Cards
1 Printing Plate
and...
6 Sketch Cards

40 hits from 12 boxes. I'm a Firefly fan and loved what I got.

Another case was opened in the store with similar results. So the sample case seems to be an anomaly.

Ed

[Sharard]

I hope you show a few of the sketch cards. Been some really nice ones. And ya looks like decent value I have two cases coming that I got at a good price. Need to wait a week but look forward to opening them. Your break makes not as scary now heh

[MankindRam]

Well I guess I'll join the party.

http://richmolinelli.com/Images/Artwork/Sketch%20Cards/Molinelli.Firefly.Pg.1.jpg

[TimShay]

Tim,
Pulled your auto River card.....

Thanks for letting me know Joe, hope you like it bro!

[literarywill]

So, what is the word? My LCS has some, at about $100 a box, are they worth it?

[Sarek]

if you are a fan....& like the base auto design..... YES.

[Sharard]

I got lucky, found someone wanting to move theirs. Opening two cases and in 83 a box. Sad part need to wait till the 28 for delivery. Look forward to it.

[Zerostreet]

Thought I'd share my original art for the 8 base cards I did. This is before writing the copy and giving it a vintage pulp feel in photoshop.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/FireFly%20Art%20Nathan%20Fillion%20Morena%20Baccarin%20trading%20cards%20The%20Verse%20Pulp%20Art%20Covers%20Jimenez%20OA.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/FireFly%20Art%20Nathan%20Fillion%20Morena%20Baccarin%20trading%20cards%20The%20Verse%20Pulp%20Art%20Covers%20Jimenez.jpg

[bradu]

Thought I'd share my original art for the 8 base cards I did. This is before writing the copy and giving it a vintage pulp feel in photoshop.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/FireFly%20Art%20Nathan%20Fillion%20Morena%20Baccarin%20trading%20cards%20The%20Verse%20Pulp%20Art%20Covers%20Jimenez%20OA.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/FireFly%20Art%20Nathan%20Fillion%20Morena%20Baccarin%20trading%20cards%20The%20Verse%20Pulp%20Art%20Covers%20Jimenez.jpg

Way cool. I like seeing the 'before' shots.

[Zerostreet]

That's awesome, really nice work.

Way cool. I like seeing the 'before' shots.

Thanks!

[Sharard]

For those that have opened this. Does it seem to average 3 hits, parallels and base per box. Sorry, don't get to open any till next Wednesday and wierd that I have seen no you tube break of this.. Even one box. Are there odds on the wrappers to give a sense of the print run on this? Thanks for any information.

[xbignick]

Why weren't they advertising this properly, even the break they posted was awful and guessing incomplete. These other breaks look better, not a fan of the patches and most auto names but like the hit number.

[Tim]

For those that have opened this. Does it seem to average 3 hits, parallels and base per box. Sorry, don't get to open any till next Wednesday and wierd that I have seen no you tube break of this.. Even one box. Are there odds on the wrappers to give a sense of the print run on this? Thanks for any information.

I have broken three cases so far.

each box has at least one auto. (the duals and triples are gravy.)
3-4 leather parallels /99
one green foil parallel per pack
one patch per box
1-3 artist autos
one sketch every other box

[kerg]

My one box (I'll probably only open one) had 1 actor auto, 1 artist auto, 1 patch, 1 sketch and 1 plate and the parallels Tim listed.

[Sarek]

this one is being bought by dealers who are fans.....

right now I count only 8 completed (SOLD) auctions on eBay........ 2 days in & 2 of those are the Philly Non sports promo cards

maybe people are waiting to get there boxes in before they buy on eBay?

either way,

I think you will be able to get the autos you want at a decent price........

[Carrbeaz]

A large majority of brown coat fans don't even know this products exists yet. Once they do just watch it fly.

[anomalys]

Big fan of Firefly. Heck, I even gave a good amount to Tudyk's 'Con Man' just to get the 'trading card' perk level.

But while it's great to see that the boxes/cases are packed with a nice amount of hits for the breakers/collectors/dealers, I'm passing on opening any of this release. It's really commendable that they tried something new for the look of the regular autograph cards, but honestly, to my eye, it's a big miss. Just completely unappealing. (The variant main cast art autos look amazing. But those are obviously super short-printed. So... yeah.)

For those that are digging it though, I'm glad it's delivered the goods for you.

[Sarek]

until it becomes public Knowledge..... You can score some good rare stuff..... I want the art card Actor Autos & the base set...maybe a Great sketch or two..... So far I like the Hall that I didn't win and someone I don't know called Alan Myers..... I just want this one.

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9AAAAOSwI-BWKBoi/s-l1600.jpg

[Sharard]

This in my opinion is a long term product. I think it will sell ok because its recent. Just wish we knew what the print run was about. Any one do the math? It really depends on how much they made.

Though I admit , I wouldn't have bought cases at the suggested 1200+ case price.

[Zerostreet]

Just finished up the last of my 3 sketch card AP's. All 3 were done in acrylic.
http://zerostreet.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/10/jimenez-firefly-serenity-mal-kaylee-ianara-fillion-baccarin-staite-the-verse.jpg

[rickstaman05]

Just finished up the last of my 3 sketch card AP's. All 3 were done in acrylic.
http://zerostreet.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/10/jimenez-firefly-serenity-mal-kaylee-ianara-fillion-baccarin-staite-the-verse.jpg

Great job. They look good.

[Sharard]

Those do look great. And it seems more selling on eBay. Cards going for what I thought they would. Think my delivery going to be delayed as I live where all that rain in Texas is going on. I wonder what the turnaround on the redemptions will be.

[Tim]

Well it took 5 days but I sold my first FF autograph, woo-hoo!

And my sketches that end tonight have bids. woo-hoo!

And I sold a case of just commons and green foils for $200! woo-hoo!

maybe this one will have legs long term?

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Thought I'd share my original art for the 8 base cards I did. This is before writing the copy and giving it a vintage pulp feel in photoshop.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/FireFly%20Art%20Nathan%20Fillion%20Morena%20Baccarin%20trading%20cards%20The%20Verse%20Pulp%20Art%20Covers%20Jimenez%20OA.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/zerostreet/FireFly%20Art%20Nathan%20Fillion%20Morena%20Baccarin%20trading%20cards%20The%20Verse%20Pulp%20Art%20Covers%20Jimenez.jpg

Did you design the entire card, Text and all, or did you send them the photoshopped art and they added it, orrr did you get a premade template of the text that you had to make your art fit into?

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Uggggh. I hate when people do this. Idk how much that Charles Hall AP was, but if you remember Kryten, he apparently commissioned it to resell.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=141807125743&alt=web

So whoever missed it, if you still want it for $800, there's your chance.

[Zerostreet]

Did you design the entire card, Text and all, or did you send them the photoshopped art and they added it, orrr did you get a premade template of the text that you had to make your art fit into?

I did all the work on this. I asked to submit my ideas with the copy and all was approved with the exception of a small title change. So I then designed it all in Illustrator and Photoshop and delivered the pieces as you see them to UD. It was a lot of fun and am very grateful to have been chosen to be on the set. If you check out my other work on my site you'll see I have a definite fondness for creating faux vintage looking Pulp magazine covers! :D

[jjsmallvillelvr]

Thats cool! I havent seem the whole base set, so I wasnt sure if those were unique to your cards or not.

[Wolf8MeVillie]

Anyone know the print run for the Blue Artist Autograph Parallels? Any of the artists, how many of each did you sign, I would think they are limited to 10 or 25 of each one..

Thanks