Peyton Manning Sex Assault Coverup?

[jasonm2121]

Manning tore it up in 2013, there is no doubt about that. However, he dipped dramatically since and the NFL began testing for HGH in 2014. Coincidence I know, but still worth noting.

[RedSoxFan28]

I don't have a dog in this fight but... Brady only has one NFL passing record. 50 TD's in a season. Peyton has 49 BTW.

Outside of that these are Peyton's all time #1 records
71,940 yards passing in career.
3,739 passing rookie record.
Most passing TD's by a rookie (26)
Most Passes Attempted, Rookie, Season (575)
Most Passes Completed, Rookie, Season (326)
Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season (6)
Most Consecutive Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes (5)
Highest Passer Rating, Season (121.1)

2nd place all time (some are ties)
Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League (3. Brady 0)
Highest Passer Rating, Career (1,500 attempts) (94.7)
Most Games, 400 or More Yards Passing, Career (7)
Most Seasons Leading League TD's (3)
Most Touchdown Passes, Season (49, 1 behind Brady)

Brady has 1 record and came in 2nd (Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season) one time. And that was behind Peyton manning.

If we were asking who the GOAT Post Season QB was I'd take Brady over Peyton (but behind Montana) But if we are talking the GOAT QB, why would someone who has never been the best at anything in a career, or even season, except one record, be considered over the one that holds eight?

For the record Sid Luckman holds twice the all time records of Brady and three times as many 2nd place ones :coffee:

A couple of those numbers look off, rookie numbers IMO are pointless. Brady has plenty of records for the regular season, postseason, and Super Bowl. Brady doesn't have either of the big ones (TDs or yards) for the regular season, but he could break them before he is done.

[jlzinck]

This thread is what I assume the inside of Kanye West's head looks like.

[RedSoxFan28]

This thread is what I assume the inside of Kanye West's head looks like.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Ug311TxWyULTi/giphy.gif

[Grid]

Uhhhh....where exactly did I say Brady is the greatest of all time? :confused:

You didn't. jasonm2121 did. Sorry if it seemed like I implied you. For the most part you have always been very level headed. I quoted him when I started the whole record thing. Which apparently was not updated by the NFL in a while.

I guess they spent all of their time and resources chasing the deflate gate BS and neglected their own website.

[Pot Roast]

Uhhhh....where exactly did I say Brady is the greatest of all time? :confused:

All Patriots fans think the same!

[BostonNut]

All Patriots fans think the same!

We're all doo-doo heads too....

[Grid]

A couple of those numbers look off, rookie numbers IMO are pointless. Brady has plenty of records for the regular season, postseason, and Super Bowl. Brady doesn't have either of the big ones (TDs or yards) for the regular season, but he could break them before he is done.

Tom is still chasing Drew Brees for yards even though Tom has been in the league longer.

Brees 60,903 VS Brady 58,028.

[Pot Roast]

We're all doo-doo heads too....

Don't forget Evil! Evil doo-doo heads.

[jdandns]

Not updated for the 2015 season yet. But...

NFL Records (http://www.nfl.com/history/randf/records/indiv/passing)

Please tell me what I missed. If they are post season records, and that falls under my statement of "If we were asking who the GOAT Post Season QB was I'd take Brady over Peyton (but behind Montana)" so tell me whats incorrect...

That link has stats only through 2007 so a LOT has changed in the interim...

[jasonm2121]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ug311TxWyULTi/giphy.gif

Hahaha

[jdandns]

Sortable current all-time leaders:

NFL Career Passing Yards Leaders | The Football Database (http://www.footballdb.com/leaders/career-passing-yards)

[RedSoxFan28]

Tom is still chasing Drew Brees for yards even though Tom has been in the league longer.

Brees 60,903 VS Brady 58,028.
Both have started for 14 years

[jasonm2121]

If the best is simply the best stats then any conversation around that easy. So at any given time, the best player is the player with the best stats, so until recently, Favre was the best? That is fine if that is how everything is judged, as long as we are consistent with that mind set.

[Pot Roast]

Manning tore it up in 2013, there is no doubt about that. However, he dipped dramatically since and the NFL began testing for HGH in 2014. Coincidence I know, but still worth noting.

In 2013 he had decker/thomas/welker/thomas/Moreno/solid line

In 2014 Decker/welker/thomas/Moreno/Beedles (probowl linemen) left. But that didn't stop him from being PM...The Rams ran through the Broncos and crushed Peyton Manning and he hasn't been the same since.

Kind of like Farve against the Bears, he was still the good ole gunslinger until that Monday night game at Solider field. (I think that's what happened?)

[coureymarshall]

The Rams ran through the Broncos and crushed Peyton Manning and he hasn't been the same since.

This is off topic but so SO TRUE!!! I have always thought the exact same thing to myself but never seen anyone else mention it until now.

[jasonm2121]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-facts-prove-no-witch-hunt-peyton-manning-article-1.2532242

[ninjacookies]

Wonder how many people in this thread are/were as consistent with their views towards Manning as they were towards Jameis. And this is not even considering the evidence against Manning makes Jameis' case look like an episode of Leave it to Beaver.

[jasonm2121]

It is so difficult to know who to believe in situations like these. I have seen people lie on both sides over the years so it is hard to form an opinion even with a good deal of information. Overall, people can be pretty crazy and ruin athletes fairly quickly.

[Hess687]

Wonder how many people in this thread are/were as consistent with their views towards Manning as they were towards Jameis. And this is not even considering the evidence against Manning makes Jameis' case look like an episode of Leave it to Beaver.

Double check your facts. Jameis supposedly raped a woman. And that's Leave it to Beaver compared to what Peyton did?

Makes sense?

[ninjacookies]

Double check your facts. Jameis supposedly raped a woman. And that's Leave it to Beaver compared to what Peyton did?

Makes sense?

As far as evidence goes, it was pretty much Leave it to Beaver in comparison. Add to the fact Peyton paid off and sent goons, and I don't see how they're remotely comparable.

A lot of this board was pretty adamant on declaring Jameis guilty as soon as news broke of the allegations.

[jasonm2121]

Double check your facts. Jameis supposedly raped a woman. And that's Leave it to Beaver compared to what Peyton did?

Makes sense?

I think he was saying the Peyton evidence is Leave it to Beaver compared to Jameis

[sjim8660]

I dont want to ride in and start dropping the "I told you so" on people, but I have never liked Manning. There was something about him and his family that just rubbed me the wrong way. I think it started with Eli refusing to get drafted by SD, which I thought was stupid since they already had LT and he was in his prime. I thought refusing to get drafted by a certain team was a douche move. Here is something I just thought about, imagine if this story would of been bigger when he was at UT, do the Colts still draft Manning or Leaf?? Manning could of been viewed as a problematic player and people say it was close between him and Leaf anyways. We will never know, but I do think this hurts Manning's legacy and it should, I have zero respect for anyone who tries to demoralize women in any way.

[coltsnsox07]

Did someone who likes pro wrestling just say he's pro-woman?..I remember in Smackdown and RAW when they had to wrestle in a gravy bowl, in pudding, and had lingerie pillow fights.
http://http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/coltsnsox07/sable-and-latex1_zpscrzqnos7.jpg (http://s812.photobucket.com/user/coltsnsox07/media/sable-and-latex1_zpscrzqnos7.jpg.html)

[Hess687]

As far as evidence goes, it was pretty much Leave it to Beaver in comparison. Add to the fact Peyton paid off and sent goons, and I don't see how they're remotely comparable.

A lot of this board was pretty adamant on declaring Jameis guilty as soon as news broke of the allegations.

I think he was saying the Peyton evidence is Leave it to Beaver compared to Jameis

Ahhhh I gotcha, my mistake....well give it another 20 years where the space time continuum will allow us to travel back in time to a specific time to see what really happened in a person's life and I'm sure there will be more to add to his story, lol.

[indyguy]

Did someone who likes pro wrestling just say he's pro-woman?..I remember in Smackdown and RAW when they had to wrestle in a gravy bowl, in pudding, and had lingerie pillow fights.
http://http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/coltsnsox07/sable-and-latex1_zpscrzqnos7.jpg (http://s812.photobucket.com/user/coltsnsox07/media/sable-and-latex1_zpscrzqnos7.jpg.html)

LOL, paid actors and actresses are quite different than what you are trying to portray here.

By the way, the woman you posted a picture of posed for Playboy...at least twice. Don't act like she's a victim.

[JosieD]

I thought this thread was about P. Manning tea bagging someone without their permission but all I see is Brady vs Brees talk. What is this thread really about?

[Ray27Ray52]

I thought this thread was about P. Manning tea bagging someone without their permission but all I see is Brady vs Brees talk. What is this thread really about?

Well this is BO so of course Tom Brady is brought into the discussion for no apparent reason at all. That's a near certainty.

[JosieD]

Well this is BO so of course Tom Brady is brought into the discussion for no apparent reason at all. That's a near certainty.

Well, he probably got to tea bag tom after the most recent loss so I guess it's understandable.

Why was this brushed under the rug in 1997?

[bewareof94]

Well, he probably got to tea bag tom after the most recent loss so I guess it's understandable.

Why was this brushed under the rug in 1997?

Everyone was told at the time that it was okay if the then-President could do it, so why not Peyton Manning?

[ld8759]

Well, he probably got to tea bag tom after the most recent loss so I guess it's understandable.

Why was this brushed under the rug in 1997?

It got brushed under the rug because he's a Manning which = football royalty. They opted to slander the victim instead. I have never been a fan of his,and I love seeing him take it on the chin for a change. Sorry if this offends his fans,but I hate that he ruined someone's life and career over this. He should have owned up to it. If it was Brady,he would be crucified.

[SaveMeTheGum]

It got brushed under the rug because he's a Manning which = football royalty. They opted to slander the victim instead. I have never been a fan of his,and I love seeing him take it on the chin for a change. Sorry if this offends his fans,but I hate that he ruined someone's life and career over this. He should have owned up to it. If it was Brady,he would be crucified.

Aw shucks, here's a free pizza. Don't make me send my goons out to you.

[ld8759]

Aw shucks, here's a free pizza. Don't make me send my goons out to you.

Am I wrong? I don't think so.

[Pot Roast]

should we change the title to offseason banter at this point?

[ld8759]

should we change the title to offseason banter at this point?

My post directly relates to the title of the thread.

[mnvikingstwins]

Anybody wanna tl;dr the thread?

[cadillac540]

Am I wrong? I don't think so.

Yeah. How about laying off the guy? Thanks.

[Pot Roast]

Anybody wanna tl;dr the thread?

Thread about Peyton Manning, Brady was mentioned.

[ld8759]

Yeah. How about laying off the guy? Thanks.

What did I say that was offensive? This is why I keep my posts to a bare minimum here. State your opinion or stick up for yourself and someone butts in and jumps on your case. Take a hike. Thanks.

[Hess687]

Anyone else think company's that sell Tea Bags are missing out on a huge endorsement opportunity here?

I mean one has to think Peyton is sitting around thinking in his nationwide voice,

"Why aren't tea bag company's calling me?"

[cadillac540]

What did I say that was offensive? This is why I keep my posts to a bare minimum here. State your opinion or stick up for yourself and someone butts in and jumps on your case. Take a hike. Thanks.

Reported...

[ld8759]

Reported...

You seriously reported this? Why,because I spoke the truth about your melon-headed quarterback? Get real.:coffee:

[Hess687]

You seriously reported this? Why,because I spoke the truth about your melon-headed quarterback? Get real.:coffee:

First off, he was probably being facetious. Secondly, when you come in here and profess your hatred for Peyton Manning, it serves no purpose in the thread.

We get it, you dislike Peyton Manning. Do you have anything else to add or did you just want to come in here take a few quick shots at Manning and rile his supporters up?

There's a difference between coming in here and having a conversation/debate where one person takes one side and you the other, but when you come in just to take unnecessary shots, it's nothing short of trolling.

[BostonNut]

First off, he was probably being facetious. Secondly, when you come in here and profess your hatred for Peyton Manning, it serves no purpose in the thread.

We get it, you dislike Peyton Manning. Do you have anything else to add or did you just want to come in here take a few quick shots at Manning and rile his supporters up?

There's a difference between coming in here and having a conversation/debate where one person takes one side and you the other, but when you come in just to take unnecessary shots, it's nothing short of trolling.

Damn...where are you when the Brady threads are trolled? :coffee::)!

[ld8759]

First off, he was probably being facetious. Secondly, when you come in here and profess your hatred for Peyton Manning, it serves no purpose in the thread.

We get it, you dislike Peyton Manning. Do you have anything else to add or did you just want to come in here take a few quick shots at Manning and rile his supporters up?

There's a difference between coming in here and having a conversation/debate where one person takes one side and you the other, but when you come in just to take unnecessary shots, it's nothing short of trolling.

Have you seen the number of posts I have since 2009? I am not a troll. When I do express an opinion,this is what happens. People pile on. It's just not worth it. It's not like people don't rip on Brady every chance they get. Tons of Brady trolls here,so don't be a hypocrite.

[Hess687]

Damn...where are you when the Brady threads are trolled? :coffee::)!

I must be slacking. I'll have to step my game up. #TrollsSuck #LosingBattle

[ld8759]

Damn...where are you when the Brady threads are trolled? :coffee::)!

Thank you!

[Hess687]

Have you seen the number of posts I have since 2009? I am not a troll. When I do express an opinion,this is what happens. People pile on. It's just not worth it. It's not like people don't rip on Brady every chance they get. Tons of Brady trolls here,so don't be a hypocrite.

Not being a hypocrite. But when you come on here stating your disgust for Manning, how do you think people are going to react? You provided absolutely nothing to this thread besides letting people know

A) You're glad to see Manning take one on the chin

and

B) You don't care for Peyton Manning (and his melon head)

And you wonder why people pile on? You may not be a troll but by posting these jabs you're no better than them. By saying, "It's not like people don't rip Brady every chance they get" and then you turn around and do the SAME THING. That's not giving someone a taste of their own medicine, it's giving them exactly what they want. That's like saying, "Well they did it to me, so now I get to do it to them."

No hatred, BTW, just bored sitting in a hotel room. I know this probably isn't gonna be a debate I win because "Hey, it's the Internet" amiright?

[Siberian13]

A) You're glad to see Manning take one on the chin



I think someone else took it on the chin, right?

[ld8759]

Not being a hypocrite. But when you come on here stating your disgust for Manning, how do you think people are going to react? You provided absolutely nothing to this thread besides letting people know

A) You're glad to see Manning take one on the chin

and

B) You don't care for Peyton Manning (and his melon head)

And you wonder why people pile on? You may not be a troll but by posting these jabs you're no better than them. By saying, "It's not like people don't rip Brady every chance they get" and then you turn around and do the SAME THING. That's not giving someone a taste of their own medicine, it's giving them exactly what they want. That's like saying, "Well they did it to me, so now I get to do it to them."

No hatred, BTW, just bored sitting in a hotel room. I know this probably isn't gonna be a debate I win because "Hey, it's the Internet" amiright?

No hatred here either,and I'm not trying to win any debates. Maybe I am sensitive about it because I'm female and I could put myself in that trainer's place.

[ld8759]

I think someone else took it on the chin, right?

Good one...really,this is pretty funny.

[Hess687]

No hatred here either,and I'm not trying to win any debates. Maybe I am sensitive about it because I'm female and I could put myself in that trainer's place.

Sorry, went out to dinner. See, now that totally makes sense. Something tells me you've hated Manning long before this, but being female makes a difference. As most board members on here are guys and have the attitude of, "Oh it's just a tea-bagging that happened 20 years ago, it's not like he raped a woman." Most men don't look at it in a female perspective of how un-funny this truly is.

I like Manning, but don't condone his behavior even if he was a teenager at the time. Dan LeBatard did a wonderful job today detailing this whole event by mentioning people should take a step back and think of it in the perspective of, "What if this was your daughter or wife?"

Most people dislike LeBatard because he doesn't talk sports, but if you listen to what he's saying he's more down to earth than any ESPN analyst there is. He breaks things down and sensationalizes nothing. He's the only sports talk show host I don't get irritated by.

[ninjacookies]

"What if this was your daughter or wife?"



All jokes aside, I'm sure there are more than a few members on this very forum that would gladly let number 18 dangle his Grape Nuts all over their spouses face so long as they can be the top story teller at every card night with the fellas.

That's just Americans and sports.

[JosieD]

Everyone was told at the time that it was okay if the then-President could do it, so why not Peyton Manning?

She wanted to give Clnton a blow job. She kept a trophy of it.

This was a completely unwanted sexual advance. He put his balls and rectum in her face while she was examining his foot. Very different. He then proceeded to ruin her life and slander her.

[Clarka3]

I'm sure there's more to the other side of the story, but this is pretty damning for the Manning family. It sounds like the trainer was abiding by the gag order from the settlement, but he kept bringing it up (via the book, etc.) and she had to sue for defamation.


now, I'm not saying Manning is a scumbag by any means. I think if it did occur, it was him being a stupid 18 year old, and this whole thing just spiraled out of control from a kid not owning up to it.

vj-ztDB-WKY

[duwal]

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[jlzinck]

http://media.balls.ie/uploads/2014/01/ddd1.gif

OK I laughed!!!:D

[rats60]

I'm sure there's more to the other side of the story, but this is pretty damning for the Manning family. It sounds like the trainer was abiding by the gag order from the settlement, but he kept bringing it up (via the book, etc.) and she had to sue for defamation.


now, I'm not saying Manning is a scumbag by any means. I think if it did occur, it was him being a stupid 18 year old, and this whole thing just spiraled out of control from a kid not owning up to it.

vj-ztDB-WKY

She sued Tennessee, not Manning the first time. Neither Manning nor the 36 others named by her in her lawsuit would have been bound by Tennessee's settlement with her. Manning had every right to tell his side of this story. From what I can tell, she sued Manning twice, but did she get any money out of him? I couldn't find any evidence of it.

I'm not sure how this hurts Manning. It was made public in 1997, but he was still drafted #1. It was made public again in 2003, but he still went on to set records and win 2 Super Bowls. It is only being brought up now because a black writer is sore that the losing SB QB who is black is being criticized for his current behavior. So, he chose to bring up a 20 year old story to knock down the SB winning QB who is white.

[88horsepower]

http://media.balls.ie/uploads/2014/01/ddd1.gif

Laughing my ass off over here. That's awesome.:p

[jasonm2121]

hahahahaahahahhhaahahahaahahahaaha

[Bostonsports1]

Sounds like the bigger issue is becoming how the Manning family acted in the aftermath, not the actual issue. I still think the HGH thing is worse for his legacy than this. Something he did as a kid vs taking HGH to be able to have a record breaking season. Both aren't great if true, but one actually effects the game itself.

[coltsnsox07]

That Naughright gal sure has some bad things happen to her over and over, she also sued designer Donna Karan because Karan's physical therapist Stephen Robbins "violently and repeatedly twisted her head and neck causing, among other injuries the herniation of at least one cervical disc, the bilateral fracture of her mandibular joint, and harm to the auditory canal, as well as other personal injury and damage too numerous to mention here,” according to the lawsuit.
Her lawyer must be happy though.

[88horsepower]

Sounds like the bigger issue is becoming how the Manning family acted in the aftermath, not the actual issue. I still think the HGH thing is worse for his legacy than this. Something he did as a kid vs taking HGH to be able to have a record breaking season. Both aren't great if true, but one actually effects the game itself.

If it's all true, I think the sexual assault is certainly concerning, but the possible cover-up and defamation of the alleged victims character bothers me even more. It's one thing to make a mistake but it goes to another level if there's a cover-up.

[Bostonsports1]

If it's all true, I think the sexual assault is certainly concerning, but the possible cover-up and defamation of the alleged victims character bothers me even more. It's one thing to make a mistake but it goes to another level if there's a cover-up.

Agreed 100%

[MeteoriteGuy]

She sued Tennessee, not Manning the first time. Neither Manning nor the 36 others named by her in her lawsuit would have been bound by Tennessee's settlement with her. Manning had every right to tell his side of this story. From what I can tell, she sued Manning twice, but did she get any money out of him? I couldn't find any evidence of it.

I'm not sure how this hurts Manning. It was made public in 1997, but he was still drafted #1. It was made public again in 2003, but he still went on to set records and win 2 Super Bowls. It is only being brought up now because a black writer is sore that the losing SB QB who is black is being criticized for his current behavior. So, he chose to bring up a 20 year old story to knock down the SB winning QB who is white.

He did not have the right to tell the story to ESPN as he clearly violated the confidentiality agreement...in both cases.

If you have ever signed a confidentiality agreement, you would understand she got paid. I have never heard of one that if you break, it means you apologize or the like. It means you pay (if civil) or go to jail (if fed or state), or both depending.

This is a current story and should be, as new information has came out, which related to story on the reporter...the way the Mannings handle problems. Your acting like there is no new information, which includes testimony of multiple witnesses. As well as ignoring Manning has basically admitted it. In his statement he dropped his drawers to moon another player, while she was tending his feet. How he forgot a woman trainer was tending to his feet.....which puts her head wear?....could be a question. I am not sure that's possible. Have you ever had a women have her head includes from your mid section and forget her?

in the end, I don't think the act matters, its a minor offense, the way the Mannings handled such is more the problem.

[Clarka3]

He did not have the right to tell the story to ESPN as he clearly violated the confidentiality agreement...in both cases.

If you have ever signed a confidentiality agreement, you would understand she got paid. I have never heard of one that if you break, it means you apologize or the like. It means you pay (if civil) or go to jail (if fed or state), or both depending.

This is a current story and should be, as new information has came out, which related to story on the reporter...the way the Mannings handle problems. Your acting like there is no new information, which includes testimony of multiple witnesses. As well as ignoring Manning has basically admitted it. In his statement he dropped his drawers to moon another player, while she was tending his feet. How he forgot a woman trainer was tending to his feet.....which puts her head wear?....could be a question. I am not sure that's possible. Have you ever had a women have her head includes from your mid section and forget her?

in the end, I don't think the act matters, its a minor offense, the way the Mannings handled such is more the problem.

that "moon" story was immediately refuted by the player he claimed to be mooning (according to the TYT video I posted). And it ended up costing that player his scholarship for not "playing ball" with the story.

[rats60]

He did not have the right to tell the story to ESPN as he clearly violated the confidentiality agreement...in both cases.

If you have ever signed a confidentiality agreement, you would understand she got paid. I have never heard of one that if you break, it means you apologize or the like. It means you pay (if civil) or go to jail (if fed or state), or both depending.

This is a current story and should be, as new information has came out, which related to story on the reporter...the way the Mannings handle problems. Your acting like there is no new information, which includes testimony of multiple witnesses. As well as ignoring Manning has basically admitted it. In his statement he dropped his drawers to moon another player, while she was tending his feet. How he forgot a woman trainer was tending to his feet.....which puts her head wear?....could be a question. I am not sure that's possible. Have you ever had a women have her head includes from your mid section and forget her?

in the end, I don't think the act matters, its a minor offense, the way the Mannings handled such is more the problem.

There is no confidentially agreement when you are not the one being sued. Show me where Manning signed one in 1997. He certainly wouldn't have put this in his book if there was one, nor would the publisher allowed it. There probably was something from the 2003 and 2005 lawsuits, but why did she not get any money from Manning after the 300k from Tennessee?

There is nothing new here. Maybe you weren't paying attention in 1997 and 2003. What was released was her side of the story, which is biased and irrelevant. If there was something to this, why didn't she take it to court? Why is there no mention of financial settlement? Why is it OK for her to give her side, but Manning not his?

I have never ignored what Manning admitted to. The truth is probably somewhere between the two stories and something we will never know. I agree that the act doesn't matter, but neither is the way he handled it. You and everyone else here would do the same, give your side of the story when you feel the other party is not being accurate.

[BostonNut]

It's funny seeing the guys who were on the offensive blitz in all the Deflategate threads turn to defense in this one. :p

[rats60]

It's funny seeing the guys who were on the offensive blitz in all the Deflategate threads turn to defense in this one. :p

I find it funny that Brady/Patriots fans are so desperate to bring him down to Brady's level. Get back to me when the NFL finds Manning used HGH and punishes him.

[Bostonsports1]

I find it funny that Brady/Patriots fans are so desperate to bring him down to Brady's level. Get back to me when the NFL finds Manning used HGH and punishes him.

Get back to me when the NFL proves Brady did anything :) I'd say the "evidence" surrounding the Manning HGH issue is just as circumstantial and non-conclusive as that with deflagate. Both don't have enough for me to say for sure either did anything wrong.

[Cades]

I find it funny that Brady/Patriots fans are so desperate to bring him down to Brady's level. Get back to me when the NFL finds Manning used HGH and punishes him.

Nope, they just want things to be at least somewhat consistent. And it really isnt even close

[Siberian13]

Get back to me when the NFL proves Brady did anything :) I'd say the "evidence" surrounding the Manning HGH issue is just as circumstantial and non-conclusive as that with deflagate. Both don't have enough for me to say for sure either did anything wrong.

They are both cheaters and scumbags. So can we get back to Dabbin on Cam? :)

[Cactuspies]

Sorry, went out to dinner. See, now that totally makes sense. Something tells me you've hated Manning long before this, but being female makes a difference. As most board members on here are guys and have the attitude of, "Oh it's just a tea-bagging that happened 20 years ago, it's not like he raped a woman." Most men don't look at it in a female perspective of how un-funny this truly is.

You certainly don't speak for me. I guess I'm not "Most men"

It's not funny, it was never funny.

can tea-bags be funny sure, but not in this case when it involves a professional, a person of the opposite sex, and others putting in what a looks like a pretty big cover up and loss of jobs and reputations.

maybe you'd like to go into this place for some food, there was some tea-bagging there

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/amherst_health_director_releas.html

this one is better
http://dailycollegian.com/2016/02/10/amherst-board-of-health-votes-against-reinstating-college-pizzas-food-establishment-license/

[MeteoriteGuy]

There is no confidentially agreement when you are not the one being sued. Show me where Manning signed one in 1997. He certainly wouldn't have put this in his book if there was one, nor would the publisher allowed it. There probably was something from the 2003 and 2005 lawsuits, but why did she not get any money from Manning after the 300k from Tennessee?

There is nothing new here. Maybe you weren't paying attention in 1997 and 2003. What was released was her side of the story, which is biased and irrelevant. If there was something to this, why didn't she take it to court? Why is there no mention of financial settlement? Why is it OK for her to give her side, but Manning not his?

I have never ignored what Manning admitted to. The truth is probably somewhere between the two stories and something we will never know. I agree that the act doesn't matter, but neither is the way he handled it. You and everyone else here would do the same, give your side of the story when you feel the other party is not being accurate.


There is no confidentially agreement when you are not the one being sued.

Obvious there was a confidentially agreement, since Manning was sued twice for violating it. if or what she got with the confidentially agreement we will never know....its a confidentially agreement. Maybe money, maybe just an apologize....she got what both parties agreed to. If you are one of the parties you would know.....like any confidentially agreement.


But okay, go with he forgot the lady's head, the lady he thought had a "foul mouth", was inches from his privates, and assume that the player reportedly mooned, who claims he wasn't, was. Even swallowing all of that, according to Manning, he purposely dropped his drawers inches from her head. I don't know how you don't understand that type of action is not allowed. That action alone, if nothing else happened, is sexual harassment. Your not allowed to stick your thing, a couple inches from a girls face without her permission, period. I again, agree with most, the action was smaller then the response.


"There is nothing new here."

That's simply not true. Repeating that line over and over again does not make it any more true. Legalized sworn statements is something, obviously. You may not like or agree with the new information, that doesn't make it not exist. Nor does it just give her side as you suggest. Not that his story is much better.

"If there was something to this, why didn't she take it to court?"

She settled with the University and Manning. That means it was going to court. But they settled.

[jasonm2121]

Nope, they just want things to be at least somewhat consistent. And it really isnt even close

This here

[indyguy]

It got brushed under the rug because he's a Manning which = football royalty. They opted to slander the victim instead. I have never been a fan of his,and I love seeing him take it on the chin for a change. Sorry if this offends his fans,but I hate that he ruined someone's life and career over this. He should have owned up to it. If it was Brady,he would be crucified.

Ruined?

300K settlement from Tennessee, plus whatever she settled with Manning for a few years later.

She still has "Dr" in front of her name and she seems to be pretty good at suing people. She sued Donna Karan when she was injured in her bedroom.

"Naughright sued fashion designer Donna Karan Weiss in 2010, claiming she suffered a herniated disc in her spine and a broken jaw while receiving treatment from a physical therapist in the designer's bedroom". She took a settlement there too.

Ruined...lol

[wheeler281]

Ruined?

300K settlement from Tennessee, plus whatever she settled with Manning for a few years later.

She still has "Dr" in front of her name and she seems to be pretty good at suing people. She sued Donna Karan when she was injured in her bedroom.

"Naughright sued fashion designer Donna Karan Weiss in 2010, claiming she suffered a herniated disc in her spine and a broken jaw while receiving treatment from a physical therapist in the designer's bedroom". She took a settlement there too.

Ruined...lol


Yup

The reporter(a know hack as previosuly proven) wrote a report base on a brief submitted by the plaintiffs attorney which obviously would paint her in the best light and the defendant in the worst light. None of it was found to be fact by the court. The look at me writer however ignored to explore the brief submitted my Mannings attny

[jasonm2121]

Seems odd to mention in his own book, no?

[pgisback]

Ruined?

300K settlement from Tennessee, plus whatever she settled with Manning for a few years later.

She still has "Dr" in front of her name and she seems to be pretty good at suing people. She sued Donna Karan when she was injured in her bedroom.

"Naughright sued fashion designer Donna Karan Weiss in 2010, claiming she suffered a herniated disc in her spine and a broken jaw while receiving treatment from a physical therapist in the designer's bedroom". She took a settlement there too.

Ruined...lol

She listed 33 sexual harassment claims before the University gave her $300k. It wasn't only Manning she was complaining against. She seems a little crazy.

[indyguy]

She listed 33 sexual harassment claims before the University gave her $300k. It wasn't only Manning she was complaining against. She seems a little crazy.

33 claims and 4 were part of the Manning investigation...if I read that correctly.

I don't condone the actions, but to say her life is ruined is ridiculous.

[Clarka3]

if the rest of the athletic departments were run like the football one, I wouldn't doubt that 33 number...

[jasonm2121]

I would think the fact that he settled means something happened, so i don't think you can be too hard on the accuser. Every incident has two sides but he did not choose to do anything under oath really, he is pretty lucky this was not now, would be a disaster. Still cant understand why he put it in his book.

[Pot Roast]

I would think the fact that he settled means something happened, so i don't think you can be too hard on the accuser. Every incident has two sides but he did not choose to do anything under oath really, he is pretty lucky this was not now, would be a disaster. Still cant understand why he put it in his book.

So the balls were defeated since Kraft accepted the harsh punishment?

[ld8759]

33 claims and 4 were part of the Manning investigation...if I read that correctly.

I don't condone the actions, but to say her life is ruined is ridiculous.

Well,ruined may not be the right word,but would you want to be known as the woman who had Peyton Manning's genitals on her face? I sure wouldn't.

[devo]

Well,ruined may not be the right word,but would you want to be known as the woman who had Peyton Manning's genitals on her face? I sure wouldn't.

I think you'd be surprised with how many would be fine with it

[jasonm2121]

So the balls were defeated since Kraft accepted the harsh punishment?

I don't think,I think he wanted to move on for the better of the league and owners and maybe thought the data provided may have been correct. I get what you mean, moving on does not necessarily mean it's true. What looks more off seems to be witness confirmation of lying after, he prob would have sued for defamation if he thought he didn't do anything but who knows. On the ball point you mention, at no time did the accused (Brady) accept it, kind of different. He could prob go the defamation route too if he wanted to spend the time, doubt he will though. I do not like the whole Manning thing bein brought to light now either, kind of rediculous to have this come out so many years after the fact,which again, is why it is odd he put it in his book.

[CM Sports Memorabilia]

My provisional diagnosis for the doctor is- "borderline personality disorder"

For Manning- stupid college kid with a sense of entailment- learn to be a good guy

The reporter- racist and has his own agenda which has nothing to do with being a good reporter!

[jasonm2121]

Legally can Peyton even comment on it?

[ld8759]

I think you'd be surprised with how many would be fine with it

Well,the whole point is that she was NOT fine with it.

[Siberian13]

Well,ruined may not be the right word,but would you want to be known as the woman who had Peyton Manning's genitals on her face? I sure wouldn't.

Some "ladies" line up for athletes trying to cash in, so there are a few that wouldn't mind a little Peyton on their face. If a high profile female athlete wants to plop here goods on my face, I'd be open to the discussion. If I sued her, would anyone even care?

[devo]

Some "ladies" line up for athletes trying to cash in, so there are a few that wouldn't mind a little Peyton on their face. If a high profile female athlete wants to plop here goods on my face, I'd be open to the discussion. If I sued her, would anyone even care?

If we're talking Alex Morgan I'd be the first in line :)!

[Pot Roast]

Legally can Peyton even comment on it?

I'm pretty sure he can't, the last time he did was in his book and payed a hefty sum(assuming) for it.

[jasonm2121]

I'm pretty sure he can't, the last time he did was in his book and payed a hefty sum(assuming) for it.

Figured as much. Each off season is becoming more of a soap opera for the league, guess it is the new normal.

[Pot Roast]

Figured as much. Each off season is becoming more of a soap opera for the league, guess it is the new normal.

Yeah this time I like to call wasteland. I just try and keep my sanity until the draft begins.

[jasonm2121]

Yeah this time I like to call wasteland. I just try and keep my sanity until the draft begins.

Sounds about right, I remember not too long ago moving on to hockey and not even thinking about football. Now every site makes any NFL story the head line over events actually going on. Just want it to be summer at this point so I don't even think about sports.

[devo]

Figured as much. Each off season is becoming more of a soap opera for the league, guess it is the new normal.

It's pathetic. Apparently the new norm is to just bash every QB that wins the Super Bowl from here on out. Whether it be digging up things that happened 20 years ago or turning something nobody cared about into a huge court case debacle, they'll find a way to bash you and ruin your name for good.

Damn these QB's for winning the Super Bowl! How dare they!

[jasonm2121]

And slam the loser as well, don't forget that!

[indyguy]

Legally can Peyton even comment on it?

No, which is why she got a separate settlement from Manning after the stuff in the book.

Well,the whole point is that she was NOT fine with it.

Which is why SHE took the settlement...twice. End of story really.

But no, we have to re-hash it all, because some hack of a "journalist" with an agenda wanted to make himself feel better because he was upset with how Cam Newton was being drilled by the media for acting like a baby during (and after) the biggest game of his life.

[Siberian13]

If we're talking Alex Morgan I'd be the first in line :)!

Ok but I call sloppy seconds. :D

[duwal]

Well,ruined may not be the right word,but would you want to be known as the woman who had Peyton Manning's genitals on her face? I sure wouldn't.


Papa John seems to not have a problem with Manning doing it to him

[duwal]

If a high profile female athlete wants to plop here goods on my face, I'd be open to the discussion.

Apparently you haven't seen the mangled mess that is Hope Solo's.....

[Clarka3]

i know the court system is #@#@#@#@ed up a lot of times, but it has to say something to the credence of this woman's claims if she's won repeatedly when she's taken the issue to court.

[WhacksPacks]

Apparently you haven't seen the mangled mess that is Hope Solo's.....

http://i.imgur.com/rmdSx.gif

[pingbling23]

New revelations in Manning-Naughright saga | The MMQB with Peter King (http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/01/peyton-manning-jamie-naughright-1996-incident-greg-johnson-voicemail)

a credible witness has come forward and corroborates mannings account of the incident.

[rittdk01]

shocking:rolleyes:

I didn't believe for a minute Peyton Manning did something so nasty and uncharacteristic. I'm waiting to hear ANYTHING good about this lady...

[RedSoxFan28]

Wait Manning's roommate and friend said nothing (really)bad happened?
Shocking :rolleyes:



;)

[jasonm2121]

New revelations in Manning-Naughright saga | The MMQB with Peter King (http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/01/peyton-manning-jamie-naughright-1996-incident-greg-johnson-voicemail)

a credible witness has come forward and corroborates mannings account of the incident.

just now ?

[devo]

Screw this Naughright lady and Shaun King. Just a couple more envious losers trying to mess with the GOAT's reputation. :rolleyes:

[pingbling23]

just now ?

Read the story, it clarifies.

[BostonNut]

Screw this Naughright lady and Shaun King. Just a couple more envious losers trying to mess with the GOAT's reputation. :rolleyes:

What does Joe Montana have to do with this?:confused:

[devo]

What does Joe Montana have to do with this?:confused:

Props to you for going the Montana route instead of you-know-who:)!

[devo]

On a side note, I never felt bad at all for this Naughright lady from the very start. Anyone who took the time to do their own research on her knows that she loves to sue people. It was hilarious seeing all of those "oh poor Jamie, Peyton ruined her life" posts. Give me a break.

People are always so quick to forget that there's multiple sides to every story. Seeing so many people damn Peyton after only seeing Naughright's side proved that they were either a) Peyton haters, or b) ignorant

[JustinVerlander07]

On a side note, I never felt bad at all for this Naughright lady from the very start. Anyone who took the time to do their own research on her knows that she loves to sue people. It was hilarious seeing all of those "oh poor Jamie, Peyton ruined her life" posts. Give me a break.

People are always so quick to forget that there's multiple sides to every story. Seeing so many people damn Peyton after only seeing Naughright's side proved that they were either a) Peyton haters, or b) ignorant

Looking at your avatar it appears you are a fanboy, what's different from those that are 'haters'?

Being so quick to victim shaming is a bad look, though.

[byronscott4ever]

Good article on TMMQB had more info and talks about some of her lawsuits she's brought

[devo]

Looking at your avatar it appears you are a fanboy, what's different from those that are 'haters'?

Being so quick to victim shaming is a bad look, though.

From one 'fanboy' to another Mr. JustinVerlander, the difference is quite simple: if there was sufficient evidence that Peyton was in the wrong here without a doubt, I wouldn't be sticking up for him. I would be quite disappointed actually. I'm willing to see this from both sides.

Whereas some of the haters here (for lack of a better term) are going to damn him regardless. There are some here that likely still wouldn't take Peyton's side even if Naughright came out and admitted everything she said was false simply because they hate Peyton Manning. Not all would be like this, but some would for sure.

Patriots fans know this feeling better than anyone.

[MeteoriteGuy]

I wouldn't jump onto the story of his roommate, and pretend it is in anything but, the story of his roommate. In Manning's own story, he dropped his drawers. Not, he bent a over small portion of the back part of his shorts.

In her story, Peyton did not drop on her, as this article implies. She came up to the greeting, which Peyton pretty much completely admits in his book, giving the moon story as the reason to way he was partial undressed when it happened, and even on ESPN, he was explaining why it happened. One can not really say this is why it happened multiple times...and not acknowledge, it happened.

There are only two things different in the stories. Manning's intent, but in either case, Manning is completely wrong.

It doesn't matter if there was a person there he was mooning or not, or if contact was made or not. A persons reasoning on why they did something wrong, does not erase the action. And yes, even if Manning, forgot a woman had her head down there, which is about impossible, and was mooning someone....it doesn't make him not guilty.