Peyton Manning Sex Assault Coverup?

[JustinVerlander07]

I'll just leave this one here...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-peyton-manning-squeaky-clean-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395?cid=bitly

[jasonm2121]

Stole my thunder, better title though on yours.

[cadillac540]

Don't give a sh!t. He's the GOAT!!

[jasonm2121]

Leave Brady out of this

[Cervantes]

Tea bagging is sexual assault. Learn about it.

[SportsAutoFreak]

So we know this for sure?

[herdfan87]

I feel like this story has been out there forever. NY Daily news is JUST now picking up on it.

[asujbl]

The story has been out there forever

This write up was super detailed though

[jasonm2121]

It was out years ago, just buried as usual. Golly geeee

[JustinVerlander07]

Don't give a sh!t. He's the GOAT!!
I certainly hope you aren't being serious.

[JustinVerlander07]

It was out years ago, just buried as usual. Golly geeee

This thread probably won't go anywhere either, but man if I had posted "Brady caught in 2005 deflating Footballs" it'd be a 100 page fight.

[cadillac540]

I certainly hope you aren't being serious.

Serious as a heart attack.

[BostonNut]

Meh...

Peyton is Teflon Man. The story went nowhere then and it will go as far as the HGH stuff now.

[freethrowtommy]

I feel like this story has been out there forever. NY Daily news is JUST now picking up on it.

The story has been out there forever

This write up was super detailed though

Yes, yes it has.

[rats60]

I'll just leave this one here...

KING: Peyton Manning?s squeaky-clean image was built on lies - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-peyton-manning-squeaky-clean-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395?cid=bitly)

In other news, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

[Ray27Ray52]

In other news, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

Again? It's war this time!

[Hess687]

Everyone already knew about this. If you hadn't heard about this before now you may have been living under a rock.

The fact the writer has decided to bring this back up 22 years later, does nothing to tarnish the legacy of Manning, since this was already "old" news, but does open up scars for the young woman who this happened to.

The writer sets out to bash Manning, but only succeeds in hurting the victim even more in this case.

Terrible, terrible piece of journalism.

[SportsAutoFreak]

This is the first time I've heard about this.

[freethrowtommy]

Again? It's war this time!

http://i.imgur.com/sTjPAU5.jpg

[BostonNut]

Yes, yes it has.

Yes, the story is well known....but these details have never been told.

It's amazing how Archie got him out of this back then....

[jasonm2121]

Serious as a heart attack.

And dumb as?

[Pot Roast]

Everyone already knew about this. If you hadn't heard about this before now you may have been living under a rock.

The fact the writer has decided to bring this back up 22 years later, does nothing to tarnish the legacy of Manning, since this was already "old" news, but does open up scars for the young woman who this happened to.

The writer sets out to bash Manning, but only succeeds in hurting the victim even more in this case.

Terrible, terrible piece of journalism.

All about that click-bait yo.

[freethrowtommy]

Yes, the story is well known....but these details have never been told.

It's amazing how Archie got him out of this back then....

Affluenza is a real thing.

[Hess687]

And dumb as?

Not dumb at all.....I'll back him up....Manning is the GOAT. If put to a poll Brady would definitely win because this board is definitely Boston heavy so don't bother taking that route.

To each their own.

[dcarado]

In other news, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

Wait... so it wasn't the Germans?

[RogerGodahell]

Yes, the story is well known....but these details have never been told.

It's amazing how Archie got him out of this back then....

Yeah, i'd heard about the allegations before but never in depth details.

[JustinVerlander07]

Believe it or not, but not everyone here was 20 years old when the story first came out, sorry guys. :rolleyes:

[BostonNut]

Yeah, i'd heard about the allegations before but never in depth details.

The whole Manning clan comes off as pond scum. It's disgusting how they tore down that woman who worked her ass off to be where she was.

Money talks. :(

[RogerGodahell]

The whole Manning clan comes off as pond scum. It's disgusting how they tore down that woman who worked her ass off to be where she was.

Money talks. :(

Not just that woman but the eye witness as well.


One person, though, could settle all of this: Malcolm Saxon.

And, in fact, he did settle it. In an affidavit, Saxon refuted Manning's story and made it clear that Manning never mooned him. In a letter to Manning, Saxon, who stated that he lost his eligibility as a student-athlete over it, practically begged him to come forward and tell the truth (see page 20). Here's an excerpt from the letter:

First, I have stuck to my same story throughout this drama. I told Mike Rollo the next day and Coach Fulmer a week or two afterwards. I had nothing to hide at that point and I have nothing to hide today. I have never been on Jamie's side or on your side (contrary to what the athletic department was telling you and telling her). I stuck to the truth and I lost my eligibility for it. My redshirt request sat on Mike Rollo's desk for months as the process was going forward. I'm not angry about it anymore, just getting a little tired of it!!

Peyton, you messed up. I still don't know why you dropped your drawers. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe not. But it was definitely inappropriate. Please take some personal responsibility here and own up to what you did. I never understood why you didn't admit to it.…

Saxon goes on to tell Peyton things like:

Coming clean is the right thing to do.

[Ottomatic]

How can people just shrug this off? Honestly if Peyton had just said he was a kid then and apologized for everything it would be a bit better, but man, this is just awful. He comes off as a racist as well.

[BostonNut]

How can people just shrug this off? Honestly if Peyton had just said he was a kid then and apologized for everything it would be a bit better, but man, this is just awful. He comes off as a racist as well.

Because this is "old news."

(In reality it isn't....this story...and the court documents tell a story that to my knowledge has never seen the light of day.)

[JustinVerlander07]

How can people just shrug this off? Honestly if Peyton had just said he was a kid then and apologized for everything it would be a bit better, but man, this is just awful. He comes off as a racist as well.

I don't know, but here we have everyone saying "Old news, move on. Who cares?"

[IronMonkey415]

All them country boy are racist as ****.

[IronMonkey415]

Now Tony Romo is a respectable and loveable guy that we can all get behind and cheer for.

[Pot Roast]

Now Tony Romo is a respectable and loveable guy that we can all get behind and cheer for.

Of course he is! He grew up in Wisconsin!

[Hess687]

How can people just shrug this off? Honestly if Peyton had just said he was a kid then and apologized for everything it would be a bit better, but man, this is just awful. He comes off as a racist as well.

Because this is "old news."

(In reality it isn't....this story...and the court documents tell a story that to my knowledge has never seen the light of day.)

Ohhh I don't know, maybe because this was SETTLED for $300,000 TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO. Wanna hop on Big Ben for his rape allegations? Wanna hop on Kobe for his as well?

This is old news.

[rats60]

Wait... so it wasn't the Germans?

I originally had that, but I changed it because I figured most on here wouldn't understand.

[BostonNut]

Ohhh I don't know, maybe because this was SETTLED for $300,000 TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO. Wanna hop on Big Ben for his rape allegations? Wanna hop on Kobe for his as well?

This is old news.

You've seen those court documents before?

My apologizes...I thought they had never been released.

[Hess687]

Because this is "old news."

(In reality it isn't....this story...and the court documents tell a story that to my knowledge has never seen the light of day.)


I love this...why do "In depth details" matter?

Person 1: Peyton Manning for sure tea bagged a chick.

Person 2: IN DEPTH DETAILS MAN! I NEED IN DEPTH DETAILS!

Person 1: Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out.

Person 2: IN DEPTH DETAILS MAN! I NEED IN DEPTH DETAILS!

Person 1: Jerry Sandusky raped kids

Person 2: IN DEPTH DETAILS MAN! I NEED IN DEPTH DETAILS!

It's amazing people almost need to be reassured on facts. They just can't be told the facts, they need all the info possible.

As if it's not bad enough Ray Rice knocked his gf out/Manning t bagged a chick/Sandusky raped kids, people want to hold off judgment until they get more details. HE KNOCKED HIS GF OUT/T-BAGGED A CHICK/RAPED KIDS!!! What else do you need to know?! Why all of a sudden now that more details came out are people NOW up in arms about this. Lol....cracks me up.

It should never matter the extent of how any of these actions were done. The fact they were done in the first place should have been appalling enough.

Sandusky is rotting in prison. Ray Rice got kicked out of the NFL. Peyton Manning settled for $300,000 which back in 1993 was a crap ton of money. Big Ben settled, Kobe settled, Vick paid his dues, I could go on and on and on and that's just in the NFL....

Get over it. These people paid their dues. Not up to your liking? Nobody cares.

[Pot Roast]

Ohhh I don't know, maybe because this was SETTLED for $300,000. Wanna hop on Big Ben for his rape allegations? Wanna hop on Kobe for his as well?

This is old news.

To put in perspective Wintson rape accuser got 950,000 dollars. Which 700,000 went to lawyer fees.

[Ottomatic]

Ohhh I don't know, maybe because this was SETTLED for $300,000 TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO. Wanna hop on Big Ben for his rape allegations? Wanna hop on Kobe for his as well?

This is old news.

If somebody legitimately raped somebody then yes they should be hopped on for the rest of their life. More people in the public deserve to know that Peyton is an awful human being. I wouldn't have rooted for him if I knew about this, so yes it's relevant news even now.

[xbignick]

Yes it's been out there for years, but don't think I've ever seen it this detailed. Combined with the fact Peyton sent 'goons' as people have called them to the house of the Sly family and you get a clearer picture. The fact that people define player as classy/unclassy based on a few seconds of fun, like dancing on the field, when this stuff happens off of it is what gets me.

The cover-up by other people involved is just terrible. That's one thing I didn't really know about.

[BostonNut]

To be fair...he didn't "just tea bag a chick."

He (well, the Manning clan) ruined....destroyed...two people's lives who were on their way up with lies, coverups, and money.

I did not know that side of the story (apparently, I am the only one on the board who didn't know that.)

I think the details do matter here. Some people think he "just tea bagged a chick." That's no big deal at all, right?

Well the details paint the whole picture that I feel some people didn't know.

That's all.

I love this...why do "In depth details" matter?

Person 1: Peyton Manning for sure tea bagged a chick.

Person 2: IN DEPTH DETAILS MAN! I NEED IN DEPTH DETAILS!

Person 1: Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out.

Person 2: IN DEPTH DETAILS MAN! I NEED IN DEPTH DETAILS!

Person 1: Jerry Sandusky raped kids

Person 2: IN DEPTH DETAILS MAN! I NEED IN DEPTH DETAILS!

It's amazing people almost need to be reassured on facts. They just can't be told the facts, they need all the info possible.

As if it's not bad enough Ray Rice knocked his gf out/Manning t bagged a chick/Sandusky raped kids, people want to hold off judgment until they get more details. HE KNOCKED HIS GF OUT/T-BAGGED A CHICK/RAPED KIDS!!! What else do you need to know?! Why all of a sudden now that more details came out are people NOW up in arms about this. Lol....cracks me up.

It should never matter the extent of how any of these actions were done. The fact they were done in the first place should have been appalling enough.

Sandusky is rotting in prison. Ray Rice got kicked out of the NFL. Peyton Manning settled for $300,000 which back in 1993 was a crap ton of money. Big Ben settled, Kobe settled, Vick paid his dues, I could go on and on and on and that's just in the NFL....

Get over it. These people paid their dues. Not up to your liking? Nobody cares.

[ck6599]

Don't give a sh!t. He's the GOAT!!

Not even in the top 3.......more like a donkey than a goat

[jasonm2121]

at the end of the day, just know that this guy is always full of sht, that is all

I know there are many people on her who always drop the "Brady left a girl alone with a child card" which is laughable since he still is involved with his kids, takes care of them and was not even married at the time. Add to the fact that half the country has done the same I find it hard to judge that anyway. Keep in mind that Peyton openly banged the Indy weather girl for years and his wife bangs openly as well. Not judging, do not care as these things happen to many people, just saying maybe do not hop on other people for less potential crimes.

[Hess687]

If somebody legitimately raped somebody then yes they should be hopped on for the rest of their life. More people in the public deserve to know that Peyton is an awful human being. I wouldn't have rooted for him if I knew about this, so yes it's relevant news even now.

Nobody raped anyone. You're right Peyton Manning is terrible.....just ask the kids staying at the Peyton Manning Children's Hospital in Indianapolis.

[xbignick]

Everyone already knew about this. If you hadn't heard about this before now you may have been living under a rock.

The fact the writer has decided to bring this back up 22 years later, does nothing to tarnish the legacy of Manning, since this was already "old" news, but does open up scars for the young woman who this happened to.

The writer sets out to bash Manning, but only succeeds in hurting the victim even more in this case.

Terrible, terrible piece of journalism.

That's the worst takeaway I've read so far on this.

There's like three people in this thread who said they didn't know about this, probably double with comments posting they never read about it in such detail.

[xbignick]

"Location: Indiana" is about all you need to know. Likely didn't even read the article.

[Pot Roast]

To be fair...he didn't "just tea bag a chick."

He (well, the Manning clan) ruined....destroyed...two people's lives who were on their way up with lies, coverups, and money.

I did not know that side of the story (apparently, I am the only one on the board who didn't know that.)

I think the details do matter here. Some people think he "just tea bagged a chick." That's no big deal at all, right?

Well the details paint the whole picture that I feel some people didn't know.

That's all.

I would say University of Tennessee ruined these peoples lives. Something they apparently are still doing to this day.


Apparently some football players sexually assaulted a women, and another football player told his coach, only to get assaulted himself...

[Hess687]

"Location: Indiana" is about all you need to know. Likely didn't even read the article.

Location: New Jersey, is about all you need to know. Most likely a Brady fan, much like all the Peyton bashers on here. Likely picked and chose what best fit his agenda when reading the article.

Works both ways.

FYI, I'm a huge Steelers fan and hate the Colts.

[xbignick]

Location: New Jersey, is about all you need to know. Most likely a Brady fan, much like all the Peyton bashers on here. Likely picked and chose what best fit his agenda when reading the article.

Works both ways.

FYI, I'm a huge Steelers fan and hate the Colts.

Might want to look at a map. And doesn't sound like hate.

Steelers fan through and through, but born and raised in Indianapolis so had to watch the Colts every Sunday. When the Steelers weren't in it, it crushed me to see the Colts fail in the playoffs so many times. I'm glad they finally got theirs in 2007. If the Steelers lose this Sunday, I'll be rooting for Old Manning to put together a Jerome Bettis/Ray Lewis/John Elway Super Bowl run.

[Hess687]

He (well, the Manning clan) ruined....destroyed...two people's lives who were on their way up with lies, coverups, and money.


Looking at this article it seems she's doing fine for herself:


Jamie Naughright | V-Day: A Global Movement to End Violence Against Women and Girls Worldwide. (http://www.vday.org/anniversary-events/superlove/bios/naughright.html#.Vr9ciseuAxc)

and then reading this article, it seems this lady has a knack for suing people....

Courthouse News Service (http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/03/14/44699.htm)


Research.

[88horsepower]

Hey, if he indeed did this, he should have the book thrown at him and his dad for covering it up.

[BostonNut]

Thank you for posting that. I had no idea.

You can turn off your "Attack Mode." I obviously did not realize this whole story was so well known.


Looking at this article it seems she's doing fine for herself:


Jamie Naughright | V-Day: A Global Movement to End Violence Against Women and Girls Worldwide. (http://www.vday.org/anniversary-events/superlove/bios/naughright.html#.Vr9ciseuAxc)

and then reading this article, it seems this lady has a knack for suing people....

Courthouse News Service (http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/03/14/44699.htm)


Research.

[RedSoxFan28]

Think Manning did it, but he's matured a lot since then, still wrong for him to do.

[BostonNut]

Might want to look at a map. And doesn't sound like hate.

Are there a lot of Brady fans in Jersey???:)!:p

[jasonm2121]

who even cares about the allegation? it is more smearing someone else to get off the hook

[Hess687]

Thank you for posting that. I had no idea.

You can turn off your "Attack Mode." I obviously did not realize this whole story was so well known.

I'm not in attack mode. Just having a debate back and forth. I hate when people view debates as attacking. If I came off that way, I apologize.

I viewed this as nothing more as a debate where you took one side and I the other. We may never change each others minds, but it's nice to go back and forth for a quick debate. Not trying to attack anyone on here. Just trying to have a civilized convo.

Thanks for the back and forth.

Here is what else I could find on this lady....she may have gone after the other guy, but I have yet to find the outcome of that....

Karan suit is tossed | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2012/03/09/karan-suit-is-tossed/)

[Sensei322]

Wow...so if I read that correctly, Peyton could have left the whole thing alone and everyone would have forgotten about it, but instead he decides to include that story in his book and blast that woman's reputation and start a war? I remember hearing about this for a brief second years ago, but I recall it kinda being an insignificant thing that went away the next day. Never knew about the whole story.

Why wouldn't he just say "Yeah, I was an immature douchebag with a ton of football-fueled testosterone and I teabagged the doctor. I thought it would be hilarious. Didn't think about how it would make her feel. Never thought about it being sexual assault, I was just being an idiot. My bad. I'll take whatever punishment is thrown my way and apologize vehemently for doing that. I promise I won't teabag anymore people outside of vidya games."

Instead he tried to ruin her career and her name? That's pretty disturbing.

[BostonNut]

I'm not in attack mode. Just having a debate back and forth. I hate when people view debates as attacking. If I came off that way, I apologize.

I viewed this as nothing more as a debate where you took one side and I the other. We may never change each others minds, but it's nice to go back and forth for a quick debate. Not trying to attack anyone on here. Just trying to have a civilized convo.

Thanks for the back and forth.

Here is what else I could find on this lady....she may have gone after the other guy, but I have yet to find the outcome of that....

Karan suit is tossed | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2012/03/09/karan-suit-is-tossed/)

Telling people to "get over it" and that "nobody cares about your opinion" is not a debate...it is an attack.

But I digress...

[SanAntonioSpurs]

It's amazing people almost need to be reassured on facts. They just can't be told the facts, they need all the info possible.

Did you really just say that...?

Part of the problem with the world is too many people think every thing posted on Twitter or Facebook is 100% fact. No one thinks for their self anymore. Of course I'd want all the info I could get on something and not just be told what's fact from some clown journalist looking for 15 mins of fame.

That being said, damn... I heard about this a while back but never saw the details.

[1000Notes]

Consider the source, the author of this article is Shaun King, who was outed as being 100% white after pretending to be half black and fabricating lies about his personal struggles as a 'black' man. Oh and he also fell out with the Black Lives Matters movement (another victim of his false identity) when it was revealed that he had misappropriated funds and engaged in other shady tactics. Nothing he has to say about victimhood means anything, wait until a reputable source reports this before piling on Peyton.

[BostonNut]

Wow...so if I read that correctly, Peyton could have left the whole thing alone and everyone would have forgotten about it, but instead he decides to include that story in his book and blast that woman's reputation and start a war? I remember hearing about this for a brief second years ago, but I recall it kinda being an insignificant thing that went away the next day. Never knew about the whole story.

Why wouldn't he just say "Yeah, I was an immature douchebag with a ton of football-fueled testosterone and I teabagged the doctor. I thought it would be hilarious. Didn't think about how it would make her feel. Never thought about it being sexual assault, I was just being an idiot. My bad. I'll take whatever punishment is thrown my way and apologize vehemently for doing that. I promise I won't teabag anymore people outside of vidya games."

Instead he tried to ruin her career and her name? That's pretty disturbing.

He had some kind of history with her that he redacted and had stricken from the court records. I'm sure that has something to do with him trying to destroy her.

[BostonNut]

Consider the source, the author of this article is Shaun King, who was outed as being 100% white after pretending to be half black and fabricating lies about his personal struggles as a 'black' man. Oh and he also fell out with the Black Lives Matters movement (another victim of his false identity) when it was revealed that he had misappropriated funds and engaged in other shady tactics. Nothing he has to say about victimhood means anything, wait until a reputable source reports this before piling on Peyton.

So the court docs King cited are lying?

[Hess687]

Telling people to "get over it" and that "nobody cares about your opinion" is not a debate...it is an attack.

But I digress...

Lol....please quote me where I said the phrase, "Nobody cares about your opinion". PLEASE!!!

I'll wait right here. And I want those EXACT WORDS.....I don't want you to quote something and then have you say, "You didn't directly say it, BUT". And don't quote just a portion of it....quote the whole thing because I wouldn't want to be quoted out of context.....

And yes....people need to get over it. People are turning their fandom into true fanaticism. It's insane. This case was settled. Get over it. This affects you, how?

[bballcollector]

Old news.

[BostonNut]

Not up to your liking? Nobody cares.

Lol....please quote me where I said the phrase, "Nobody cares about your opinion". PLEASE!!!

I'll wait right here. And I want those EXACT WORDS.....I don't want you to quote something and then have you say, "You didn't directly say it, BUT". And don't quote just a portion of it....quote the whole thing because I wouldn't want to be quoted out of context.....

And yes....people need to get over it. People are turning their fandom into true fanaticism. It's insane. This case was settled. Get over it. This affects you, how?

Sorry...guess I do not understand what you meant.

And yes, I am a fan of Peyton. I still think it is important that these new revaluations were brought to light. Why is that bad?

[IamRalpho]

Yeah I am going to go there:

Tom Brady is alleged to deflate footballs, he is thrown under the bus, called a cheater, his integrity is questioned and hes a phony.

Peyton Manning does all this and its brushed under the rug.

I hope what Peyton did isnt true but the evidence is damning, but people let that slide but some potential deflated footballs and a destroyed phone is MUCH worse than sexual harassment and ruining a woman's life.

If people didnt think Peyton got preferrential treatment from the media and fans, they sure do now

[trixstar]

You don't have to like Shawn King or read his article but at least read the court documents he cites the page numbers of every single fact in his story and provides original documents.. None of that is fabricated and I'd be curious to read about the 1994 incident that was removed from the documents by the request of Manning's counsel. It also really goes to show how institutions protect their own.

All that being said it really does go to show how much our culture likes tearing down people at the top.

[xbignick]

Important to note of course:

Titled "Facts of the Case," and submitted to the court by the plaintiff's lawyers

[jasonm2121]

You don't have to like Shawn King or read his article but at least read the court documents he cites the page numbers of every single fact in his story and provides original documents.. None of that is fabricated and I'd be curious to read about the 1994 incident that was removed from the documents by the request of Manning's counsel. It also really goes to show how institutions protect their own.

All that being said it really does go to show how much our culture likes tearing down people at the top.

correct, half this board revolves around it

[BostonNut]

correct, half this board revolves around it

Only half?

I'd like to see you show your work...:p

[jasonm2121]

Only half?

I'd like to see you show your work...:p

I mean half the posts/threads :)

[jasonm2121]

I just love the different reactions when it is for Manning as opposed to the reactions for Brady, too funny and sad

[trixstar]

Old news.

Yes, the story is old and reasonably well known. But King isn't going after Peyton so much as he's going after what court documents strongly indicate is a cover up. Despite the writer, there are a lot of new (to me) facts about this disturbing case. It goes beyond the initial sexual assault encounter and details how the Manning family destroyed this woman's career, and they used shady racist tactics as well.

[Hess687]

I just love the different reactions when it is for Manning as opposed to the reactions for Brady, too funny and sad

That's where the issue lies. And some of that blame can be put on us, the fan. I, for one, am guilty of it.

I'm a huge fan of Ben Roethlisberger. I mean a HUGE FAN....I want to go to his HOF induction ceremony if he happens to be lucky enough to get inducted in.

When going to see a Steeler game in Kansas City, a Chief fan ran up to me and asked me while I was wearing my Roth jersey, "How's it feel to support a rapist?" My response was, "I don't care what he does off the field just as long as he produces on it."

Unfortunately, this is the terrible side of being a fan. Guys like Kobe, Roth, Ray Rice, etc....can allegedly rape someone or punch a girl, but as long as they aren't hurting the integrity of the game, it's swept under the rug.

BUT, if you do something, such as allegedly cheating, like Tom Brady has done which does hurt the integrity of the game, then it's an absolute uproar bc that person has taken away chances of people's favorite teams to win, by adjusting the odds in his favor. Thus, causing an uproar.

It's crazy that that's the way it is, but that's pretty much fandom when it comes to sports. Look no further than the tributes Kobe gets night in and night out this year.

[jasonm2121]

That's where the issue lies. And some of that blame can be put on us, the fan. I, for one, am guilty of it.

I'm a huge fan of Ben Roethlisberger. I mean a HUGE FAN....I want to go to his HOF induction ceremony if he happens to be lucky enough to get inducted in.

When going to see a Steeler game in Kansas City, a Chief fan ran up to me and asked me while I was wearing my Roth jersey, "How's it feel to support a rapist?" My response was, "I don't care what he does off the field just as long as he produces on it."

Unfortunately, this is the terrible side of being a fan. Guys like Kobe, Roth, Ray Rice, etc....can allegedly rape someone or punch a girl, but as long as they aren't hurting the integrity of the game, it's swept under the rug.

BUT, if you do something, such as allegedly cheating, like Tom Brady has done which does hurt the integrity of the game, then it's an absolute uproar bc that person has taken away chances of people's favorite teams to win, by adjusting the odds in his favor. Thus, causing an uproar.

It's crazy that that's the way it is, but that's pretty much fandom when it comes to sports. Look no further than the tributes Kobe gets night in and night out this year.

I understand your point but I would argue that the league has shown poor integrity from the start in this specific example, they are the ones who look to have manipulated information.

[Hess687]

I understand your point but I would argue that the league has shown poor integrity from the start in this specific example, they are the ones who look to have manipulated information.

I am not doubting that at all. If Roger Goodell would have handled the alleged Spy Gate correctly, then that would have put an end to everything, but due to his poor judgment, it opened up the flood gates on Deflategate, and whatever alleged tactics the Patriots supposedly used to gain an advantage.

By doing very minimal with Spygate, Goodell let the Patriots continue their supposed cheating tactics. I don't care for the Patriots, but it's Goodell, not the Patriots who is to blame for all of this backlash that the Patriots receive.

[IamRalpho]

Just because she was paid off, doesnt negate the fact that Peyton Manning did it and was covered up and spun around on the female here.

It still happened. He still did it.

[rats60]

Yeah I am going to go there:

Tom Brady is alleged to deflate footballs, he is thrown under the bus, called a cheater, his integrity is questioned and hes a phony.

Peyton Manning does all this and its brushed under the rug.

I hope what Peyton did isnt true but the evidence is damning, but people let that slide but some potential deflated footballs and a destroyed phone is MUCH worse than sexual harassment and ruining a woman's life.

If people didnt think Peyton got preferrential treatment from the media and fans, they sure do now

Tom Brady is a cheater. That is totally irrelevant to this. Now if Peyton used HGH, that would be similar to Brady's cheating. Tom Brady knocking up a woman and throwing her to the curb is similar to this. Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Kobe, Michael Jordan etc. are all horrible people. I guess that since you are perfect and have never done anything wrong, you can throw stones at Peyton for shortcomings in his personal life.

I'm sorry to burst your fantasy, but athletes get preferential treatment. They aren't the only ones either.

[BostonNut]

Isn't that exactly what you did with this very post?! :confused:

Tom Brady is a cheater. That is totally irrelevant to this. Now if Peyton used HGH, that would be similar to Brady's cheating. Tom Brady knocking up a woman and throwing her to the curb is similar to this. Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Kobe, Michael Jordan etc. are all horrible people. I guess that since you are perfect and have never done anything wrong, you can throw stones at Peyton for shortcomings in his personal life.

I'm sorry to burst your fantasy, but athletes get preferential treatment. They aren't the only ones either.

[IamRalpho]

Tom Brady is a cheater. That is totally irrelevant to this. Now if Peyton used HGH, that would be similar to Brady's cheating. Tom Brady knocking up a woman and throwing her to the curb is similar to this. Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Kobe, Michael Jordan etc. are all horrible people. I guess that since you are perfect and have never done anything wrong, you can throw stones at Peyton for shortcomings in his personal life.

I'm sorry to burst your fantasy, but athletes get preferential treatment. They aren't the only ones either.

When you have concrete proof of Tom Brady cheating, like we do with Peyton Manning's indiscretions like we do with the payout. Please let me know.

I can throw stones at Peyton Manning BECAUSE HE SEXUALLY HARASSED A WOMAN AND USED HIS FAMILY TO SHAME HER!

I will absolutely throw stones and people like that.

Defending sexual harassment is a new low for this site

[jasonm2121]

When you have concrete proof of Tom Brady cheating, like we do with Peyton Manning's indiscretions like we do with the payout. Please let me know.

I can throw stones at Peyton Manning BECAUSE HE SEXUALLY HARASSED A WOMAN AND USED HIS FAMILY TO SHAME HER!

I will absolutely throw stones and people like that.

Defending sexual harassment is a new low for this site

Yea show me the proof he cheated as well, been waiting over a year now. All we have is made up data and he only thing RG can say is it's about the CBA giving him absolute power, nothing about actual evidence. Thanks chief.

[88horsepower]

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111150904/3796759-5220289697-3q7bi.jpg

[rats60]

When you have concrete proof of Tom Brady cheating, like we do with Peyton Manning's indiscretions like we do with the payout. Please let me know.

I can throw stones at Peyton Manning BECAUSE HE SEXUALLY HARASSED A WOMAN AND USED HIS FAMILY TO SHAME HER!

I will absolutely throw stones and people like that.

Defending sexual harassment is a new low for this site

Let me know who the Patriots draft with their 1st round pick this year and when NFL refunds the Patriots 1 million dollar fine. Brady was found guilty by the NFL.

No one here is defending sexual harassment, like they did rapist Jameis. People are questioning why people are bringing up an old story. There is nothing new here. This court document was prepared by the woman's attorneys to win her lawsuit. It is biased and sheds no new light on this incident.

[jlzinck]

The Football folder has officially become worse than the BKB folder.

Congrats

[jasonm2121]

Let me know who the Patriots draft with their 1st round pick this year and when NFL refunds the Patriots 1 million dollar fine. Brady was found guilty by the NFL.

No one here is defending sexual harassment, like they did rapist Jameis. People are questioning why people are bringing up an old story. There is nothing new here. This court document was prepared by the woman's attorneys to win her lawsuit. It is biased and sheds no new light on this incident.

Hahahahahah, found guilty by the NFL, where to begin.

[RedSoxFan28]

Let me know who the Patriots draft with their 1st round pick this year and when NFL refunds the Patriots 1 million dollar fine. Brady was found guilty by the NFL.

No one here is defending sexual harassment, like they did rapist Jameis. People are questioning why people are bringing up an old story. There is nothing new here. This court document was prepared by the woman's attorneys to win her lawsuit. It is biased and sheds no new light on this incident.

:D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

:doh:

[chezball]

The Football folder has officially become worse than the BKB folder.

Congrats

Where have you been,it happened last year.:doh:

[Cades]

Brady and the Pats are so far in rats head its hilarious, one day you wont be so angry

[rats60]

Hahahahahah, found guilty by the NFL, where to begin.

If you don't like it, you can leave the NFL and start your own league. As long as you are a member of the NFL, their opinion is really the only one that matters. Typical response considering you are a fan of the serial cheating franchise.

[rats60]

Brady and the Pats are so far in rats head its hilarious, one day you wont be so angry

Not angry, they are just irrelevant. Pats fans are the ones that keep bringing up their cheating. In this thread it was brought up by a delusional Pats fan. Just pointing out the facts. Let me know when your team can win a championship without cheating. I know you are sore but the truth hurts.

[asujbl]

New York Daily News Writes A Story On How Peyton Manning Teabagged His Female Trainer At Tennessee and People Are Freaking Out - Barstool Sports (http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/new-york-daily-news-writes-a-story-on-how-peyton-manning-teabagged-his-female-trainer-at-tennessee-and-people-are-freaking-out/)

[RedSoxFan28]

Not angry, they are just irrelevant. Pats fans are the ones that keep bringing up their cheating. In this thread it was brought up by a delusional Pats fan. Just pointing out the facts. Let me know when your team can win a championship without cheating. I know you are sore but the truth hurts.
They've won 4 without cheating. :)!

[Cades]

Not angry, they are just irrelevant. Pats fans are the ones that keep bringing up their cheating. In this thread it was brought up by a delusional Pats fan. Just pointing out the facts. Let me know when your team can win a championship without cheating. I know you are sore but the truth hurts.

So, so mad

[rats60]

So, so mad

Enjoy losing draft picks.

[RedSoxFan28]

Enjoy losing draft picks.

Enjoy not winning Super Bowls :coffee:

[Cades]

Enjoy losing draft picks.

I never had any draft picks to lose to begin with

[Grza]

The Football folder has officially become worse than the BKB folder.

Congrats

Copy that. Sad.

[IamRalpho]

Let me know who the Patriots draft with their 1st round pick this year and when NFL refunds the Patriots 1 million dollar fine. Brady was found guilty by the NFL.

No one here is defending sexual harassment, like they did rapist Jameis. People are questioning why people are bringing up an old story. There is nothing new here. This court document was prepared by the woman's attorneys to win her lawsuit. It is biased and sheds no new light on this incident.

Well good thing the NFL isnt a court of law, since what the NFL did, according to the court of law was unethical and reversed.

Good comparison though, maybe Brady will pay off the NFL or just guilty people like Peyton and Winston do that?

Terrible comparisons and defending harassment is amazing.

[rutgersjpm]

I wonder if he ever teabagged his autographed cards.

[Pot Roast]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ftXvsSyRzKXXG/giphy-facebook_s.jpg

[JohnRyno]

Manning is a eunuch.

[sportzluvr1]

Peyton Manning is a racist, hillbilly, woman hating, tea-bagging, 2-time Superbowl Champion.

[jasonm2121]

Peyton Manning is a racist, hillbilly, woman hating, tea-bagging, 2-time Superbowl Champion.

Hahahahahahaha golly shucks awwww

[BigSeph]

So this woman walks away from Tennessee without taking her pound of flesh, then files a defamation suit and accepts a settlement, and the carebears are out in full force now after Peyton wins his 2nd Superbowl and is likely to retire?

Don't accept the settlement if you want the truth to come out. Don't walk away from Tennessee if you want your pound of flesh.

It seems every media outlet is piggybacking on this and trying to make a story out of it in the last 24 hours.

This woman, based on her actions, wasn't willing to deal with the drama at Tennessee, and only said "enough" when Peyton dragged her name into his book. And then, instead of fighting until a verdict was rendered, settled out of court.

At what point does the public respect her wishes?

Seems obvious she wishes everyone would shutup about it so she can move on with her life. And Peyton didn't pay her money because he did nothing wrong. But those two parties reached an agreement on this issue.

Did it involve anyone else personally? Glad it can be a news story and get some publicity for a crappy paper though. This is the same paper that called Trump supporters "mindless zombies" on their front page. It's a rag.

And for the record, this is the "facts" document from her attorney's side. Wouldn't call it objective.

[gingerscards]

Peyton Teabags Manning

[jasonm2121]

Didn't Miller or another lineman on Denver say they wanted to tea bag Brady in the AFC Championship game too? What the heck is going on here? Was that a tribute to Peyton? Animals!

[Hess687]

Wow....this thread has spun out of control. People either don't know how to have a civilized conversation or just don't care to have one. Patriots fans are complete homers and will never admit to even a certain amount of cheating. Non-Patriot fans know they cheated and seem hell bent on getting Patriot fans to admit such.

It almost feels like both sides need to be separated into corners and given a timeout.

[Hess687]

At least one person is...

LOL.....Whoa, WHOA, WHOA!!! Just because I said, I don't care what he does off the field, as long as he produces on the field, I'm all of a sudden PRO sexual harassment?!!

If by what you got out of me saying that was, "Keep raping chicks, just as long as you keep performing on the field" you sir, need to learn reading comprehension, as that was not was meant by my comments at all and to even say as such is idiotic and stupid.

My take was simply, a person's personal life is none of my business. What they do off the field, is none of my business. I root for THE PLAYER, not THE PERSON.

You need to learn to differentiate the two.

For you to even get that out of what I was saying, really pisses me off.

[BostonNut]

The Football folder has officially become worse than the BKB folder.

Congrats

It's getting embarrassingly close....but we are not quite there yet...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/969375-larry-bird-magic-johnson-lebron-james.html

[groundsupport]

I'll just leave this one here...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-peyton-manning-squeaky-clean-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395?cid=bitly

Adrian Payne idolised Peyton.

[jasonm2121]

oh man, I am not going to read that one from BKB but I can only imagine how it goes

[BostonNut]

oh man, I am not going to read that one from BKB but I can only imagine how it goes

Side 1:

LEBRON IS A GOD!!!! He can take over any game. He can do anything he wants to. He can get either 100 assists a game, 100 points a game, or 100 rebounds a game. He just chooses not to. He only loses so much in the finals because by the time his teams get to the finals they are always injured. Jordan couldn't hold LeBron's jock.

Side 2:

LEBRON STINKS! He is only good because he joins any team he wants to. He only gets to the Finals because he plays in the pathetic Eastern Conference. He couldn't hold Jordan's jock.

[jasonm2121]

Side 1:

LEBRON IS A GOD!!!! He can take over any game. He can do anything he wants to. He can get either 100 assists a game, 100 points a game, or 100 rebounds a game. He just chooses not to. He only loses so much in the finals because by the time his teams get to the finals they are always injured. Jordan couldn't hold LeBron's jock.

Side 2:

LEBRON STINKS! He is only good because he joins any team he wants to. He only gets to the Finals because he plays in the pathetic Eastern Conference. He couldn't hold Jordan's jock.


Sounds about right.

[cadillac540]

oh man, I am not going to read that one from BKB but I can only imagine how it goes

You do the EXACT same thing in the football section...

[BostonNut]

You acknowledged that you do not care he raped a woman. So the bolded is what you meant. As long as he performs on the field, he can continue to do what he pleases off the field, which apparently includes raping woman. You said it yourself, you don't care.

I think it goes without saying he does not condone sexual assault. One could get that assumption with how he wrote that but it's not fair to pin that on him....

[awz50]

Manning sucks

[jasonm2121]

You do the EXACT same thing in the football section...

exactly, do not need it in multiple sports, overload

[Pot Roast]

Manning bags


Fixed.

[Hess687]

You acknowledged that you do not care he raped a woman. So the bolded is what you meant. As long as he performs on the field, he can continue to do what he pleases off the field, which apparently includes raping woman. You said it yourself, you don't care.

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. What don't you understand separating the PLAYER from the PERSON? If we rooted for the PERSON in sports we would have very little, if no one to root for.

Roth - allegedly raped a girl - can't root for him
Kobe - see above
Ray Rice - batters women - can't root for him
Tim Tebow - he's Christian, I'm atheist - can't root for him
Ray Lewis - allegedly murdered someone - can't root for him
Tom Brady - I don't believe in divorce - can't root for him
Legarette Blount - smokes pot - can't root for him

The reasons are ENDLESS on why someone shouldn't root for a PERSON if they so choose.....but as a PLAYER it's totally different. I do not care what they do off the field....I am not their friend, I am not their parent, I am not their guidance counselor, I am a fan of a team who I want to win. This DOES NOT MAKE ME pro rapist, pro pot smoker, pro battery, pro divorce.....etc....

You obviously have a hard time understanding this.

[RedSoxFan28]

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. What don't you understand separating the PLAYER from the PERSON? If we rooted for the PERSON in sports we would have very little, if no one to root for.

Roth - allegedly raped a girl - can't root for him
Kobe - see above
Ray Rice - batters women - can't root for him
Tim Tebow - he's Christian, I'm atheist - can't root for him
Ray Lewis - allegedly murdered someone - can't root for him
Tom Brady - I don't believe in divorce - can't root for him
Legarette Blount - smokes pot - can't root for him

The reasons are ENDLESS on why someone shouldn't root for a PERSON if they so choose.....but as a PLAYER it's totally different. I do not care what they do off the field....I am not their friend, I am not their parent, I am not their guidance counselor, I am a fan of a team who I want to win. This DOES NOT MAKE ME pro rapist, pro pot smoker, pro battery, pro divorce.....etc....

You obviously have a hard time understanding this.
Brady got divorced?

[Hess687]

Brady got divorced?

Sorry, had a child out of wedlock. You get the point....can't root for him either.

[Postman]

I'll just leave this one here...

KING: Peyton Manning?s squeaky-clean image was built on lies - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-peyton-manning-squeaky-clean-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395?cid=bitly)

Shaun King is a idiot. 90% of the stuff he writes about is about race. Writing stupid stuff just trying to sell his newspaper. Cant stand him.

[Hess687]

You acknowledged that you do not care he raped a woman. So the bolded is what you meant. As long as he performs on the field, he can continue to do what he pleases off the field, which apparently includes raping woman. You said it yourself, you don't care.

In your profile it mentions you have a PC of Ty Cobb.

This OBVIOUSLY makes you a racist and a fan of battering women since Ty Cobb was racist throughout his playing days and choked a woman as well.

Let's not forget you must HATE handicapped people because Ty Cobb once choked a handicapped person as well.

So I guess it would be fair to call you a racist, handicapped hating, woman abuser.

No it would not. You are none of those things.

Following along, now?

You collect the PLAYER, not the PERSON.

[indyguy]

Shaun King is a idiot. 90% of the stuff he writes about is about race. Writing stupid stuff just trying to sell his newspaper. Cant stand him.

I find it funny that King has been defending Cam Newton so hard this week and then to dig this back up, it's self-serving. He doesn't care about the story or the victim.

[Pot Roast]

I never knew so much about ty cobb until a peyton manning thread....

Was he a wife-beater? “He was an everything beater,” offered comic Jim Norton. “A horrible racist. A Demerol addict . . . in 1907 Cobb fought a black groundskeeper . . . and ended up choking the man’s wife when she intervened.”


Ty "Everything beater" Cobb

[RW3FAN]

I wonder if he ever teabagged his autographed cards.

And THREAD......

http://fat.gfycat.com/EmotionalDisastrousIndianjackal.gif

[IamRalpho]

Bashing of Shaun King is weird, you guys know he didnt write the court transcripts or interviews right?

[lionsfan20]

I see the Pats/Brady swingers have already turned this into a thread about them again. Wish you could all see my shocked face.

[cadillac540]

exactly, do not need it in multiple sports, overload

Fair enough.

[Pot Roast]

Bashing of Shaun King is weird, you guys know he didnt write the court transcripts or interviews right?

You do know their bashing King because of his click-bait type stories and not because he didn't write the court transcripts or interviews right?

[IamRalpho]

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. What don't you understand separating the PLAYER from the PERSON? If we rooted for the PERSON in sports we would have very little, if no one to root for.

Roth - allegedly raped a girl - can't root for him
Kobe - see above
Ray Rice - batters women - can't root for him
Tim Tebow - he's Christian, I'm atheist - can't root for him
Ray Lewis - allegedly murdered someone - can't root for him
Tom Brady - I don't believe in divorce - can't root for him
Legarette Blount - smokes pot - can't root for him

The reasons are ENDLESS on why someone shouldn't root for a PERSON if they so choose.....but as a PLAYER it's totally different. I do not care what they do off the field....I am not their friend, I am not their parent, I am not their guidance counselor, I am a fan of a team who I want to win. This DOES NOT MAKE ME pro rapist, pro pot smoker, pro battery, pro divorce.....etc....

You obviously have a hard time understanding this.

Might be the most ironic and ridiculous thing ever.

I know you are trying to make a point but putting Tom Brady in a list of rapists and murderers is so stupid. Not to mention you are a 100% wrong, your arguement doesnt make sense.

Brady had a baby out of wedlock = raping or beating a woman?

Log off dude

[IamRalpho]

I find it funny that King has been defending Cam Newton so hard this week and then to dig this back up, it's self-serving. He doesn't care about the story or the victim.

Yeah this isnt ignoring or discrediting the article at all is it?

[Hess687]

Might be the most ironic and ridiculous thing ever.

I know you are trying to make a point but putting Tom Brady in a list of rapists and murderers is so stupid. Not to mention you are a 100% wrong, your arguement doesnt make sense.

Brady had a baby out of wedlock = raping or beating a woman?

Log off dude

Well, DUDE, it's called making a point. None of these are the same or equal. Just giving reason on why a person MAY NOT root for someone.

None of these have anything to to do with the other. Also funny you pinpointed Tom Brady and not the fact I brought up Tim Tebow which by far is the "One of these things is not like the other" winner.

You stating "Brady had a baby out of wedlock EQUALS raping or beating a woman?" Is your statement, not mine. Never COMPARED the two, just provided examples on why someone may not root for a person.

Don't understand that? Maybe it's time you log off.

[sportzluvr1]

Cam lost homeboys....and guess what? Its OK.

Everything will be O-K.

Promise :)

[BostonNut]

In your profile it mentions you have a PC of Ty Cobb.

This OBVIOUSLY makes you a racist and a fan of battering women since Ty Cobb was racist throughout his playing days and choked a woman as well.

Let's not forget you must HATE handicapped people because Ty Cobb once choked a handicapped person as well.

So I guess it would be fair to call you a racist, handicapped hating, woman abuser.

No it would not. You are none of those things.

Following along, now?

You collect the PLAYER, not the PERSON.

Ignore that guy.

You shouldn't have to defend yourself over someone taking something out of context.

It's disgusting that he would insinuate that you are pro-sexual assault...

[Pot Roast]

Hey Bostonut you going to start a pool on how long before someone starts a thread about Von Miller and his past issues?

[coureymarshall]

Bashing of Shaun King is weird, you guys know he didnt write the court transcripts or interviews right?


please note: What occurred is by NO means, acceptable. However, the document provided, titled "Facts of the Case," was submitted by only the plaintiff's (Jamie Whited's) lawyers. With all stories, as in this case, everyone should remember: there is 3 sides to every story...
1) her side
2) his side
3) and the truth

[BostonNut]

Hey Bostonut you going to start a pool on how long before someone starts a thread about Von Miller and his past issues?

Cheater.

:coffee:

[Harps]

I see the Pats/Brady swingers have already turned this into a thread about them again. Wish you could all see my shocked face.

This. Absolutely this.

[jasonm2121]

Why is everyone hating on click bait stories all of a sudden? ESPN is more or less TMZ and E at this point but that is acceptable.

[Pot Roast]

Why is everyone hating on click bait stories all of a sudden? ESPN is more or less TMZ and E at this point but that is acceptable.

ESPN is Panini of sports. For every good show they produce there's at least 20 bad ones.

[jasonm2121]

ESPN is Panini of sports. For every good show they produce there's at least 20 bad ones.

I miss the roller hockey league they had in the 90's, played beach side

[Siberian13]

I enjoy these patriots threads the most :)

[jasonm2121]

I enjoy these patriots threads the most :)

drives ratings!!! :)

[RogerGodahell]

Why is everyone hating on click bait stories all of a sudden? ESPN is more or less TMZ and E at this point but that is acceptable.

Isnt that strange...If you go to ESPN's website not one single story about this. It might be on TV i dont know i havent watched TV all day. But if you google Peyton Manning theres 20 different news sources writing about it. The Manning camp must know some very powerful people. Maybe Papa John has connections :D

[jasonm2121]

Isnt that strange...If you go to ESPN's website not one single story about this. It might be on TV i dont know i havent watched TV all day. But if you google Peyton Manning theres 20 different news sources writing about it. The Manning camp must know some very powerful people. Maybe Papa John has connections :D

Guess so, this must run real deep with Papa John being the key cog. I know they do not want to risk that corp Buick money either, add in Bud and it is an impregnable force. Good for him.

[xbignick]

Isnt that strange...If you go to ESPN's website not one single story about this. It might be on TV i dont know i havent watched TV all day. But if you google Peyton Manning theres 20 different news sources writing about it. The Manning camp must know some very powerful people. Maybe Papa John has connections :D

Know part of that is in jest but obviously it's true. Never seen such quiet from some writers on twitter when the initial HGH story broke and the other stuff started to come in. We've seen players in baseball be keep out of the HOF and smeared for less from their colleagues.

Twitter searched ESPN/Manning, this came up though.

http://i.imgur.com/EYF0DUC.png

[RogerGodahell]

Lets not forget, Nationwide is on his side....

[gingerscards]

Teabagging feels so good

[jasonm2121]

Lets not forget, Nationwide is on his side....

I always forget that one. I am simply amazed at the quiet coverage whenever anything comes up on him, good for him I guess. Just amazing is all.

[bewareof94]

I always forget that one. I am simply amazed at the quiet coverage whenever anything comes up on him, good for him I guess. Just amazing is all.

What exactly has "come up" on him that has more-or-less been ignored?

[jasonm2121]

What exactly has "come up" on him that has more-or-less been ignored?

I always forget about the Nationwide ads, I think it is because I am so in love with the Papa John's ads, who knows.

[Hollenbackcards]

I vote that we get all of the dirt on each other on this forum from the passed 20 years, and see who's reputation changes >:)

[indyguy]

Yeah this isnt ignoring or discrediting the article at all is it?

It's an old story that King dug up. It's already been covered and forgot. Now, 20 years later he wants people to re-live it. Why?

Be snarky all you want, but there is no justice to come of this. It's King trying to smear Manning after he was butt hurt with how people blasted Cam Newton after the Super Bowl. Nothing more.

[FreeMan12406]

Not dumb at all.....I'll back him up....Manning is the GOAT. If put to a poll Brady would definitely win because this board is definitely Boston heavy so don't bother taking that route.

To each their own.

Brady gets destroyed by most on here over football related things. Peyton sexually assaulted a woman and you'll back him?

[Hess687]

Brady gets destroyed by most on here over football related things. Peyton sexually assaulted a woman and you'll back him?

Not backing up Peyton, backing up the gentlemen on here that said Peyton was the GOAT. I believe Peyton is the GOAT as well. As most believe Brady is the GOAT and that's okay too.

[pgisback]

Believe it or not, but not everyone here was 20 years old when the story first came out, sorry guys. :rolleyes:

Yea, I never heard about this story until now. Interesting.

[jdandns]

This may well "taint" his legacy.

[56chev]

This may well "taint" his legacy.

I c wat u did thar.

[TimBuckTwo]

That phone's not for taggin', that phones for teabaggin'....

[Skybox]

must be the offseason

[green4407]

Shaun King and Peyton Manning: Three questions to ask about story | Broncos Wire (http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2016/02/13/shaun-king-peyton-manning-is-the-story-true-three-questions-to-ask/)

Peyton Manning Newest Target of Fake Internet Outrage Brigade | FOX Sports (http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/peyton-manning-newest-target-of-fake-internet-outrage-brigade-021316)

[88horsepower]

Took me a minute to realize that this isn't the former Bucs QB Shaun King being linked to this story. I'm like, "I'm pretty sure Shaun King is black last I checked."

[HBMC]

Took me a minute to realize that this isn't the former Bucs QB Shaun King being linked to this story. I'm like, "I'm pretty sure Shaun King is black last I checked."

That Shaun King probably doesn't care, this Shaun King is a liar or at best a rabble rouser.

[hoopster3977]

A lot of butt hurt Patriots fans posting in this thread.

[hofcollector2]

So a steroid user and a rapist, this guy is a piece of work. Everyone knows this guy is a fraud and the super was given to him by the defense. Nothing more to say..

[devo]

So a steroid user and a rapist, this guy is a piece of work. Everyone knows this guy is a fraud and the super was given to him by the defense. Nothing more to say..

Wait a second, so apparently teabagging = rape now? Ummm... hahahaha

Do you even know what the definition of "rape" is, dude?

Sore Pats fans always crawl out of the woodwork when negative stories on Manning break because they're so desperate to feel better about rooting for the most tainted QB in NFL history.

Queue the butthurt Pats fans...

[coltsnsox07]

So a steroid user and a rapist, this guy is a piece of work. Everyone knows this guy is a fraud and the super was given to him by the defense. Nothing more to say..

http://http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/coltsnsox07/coming-to-america-o1_zpsbmrrnzzz.gif (http://s812.photobucket.com/user/coltsnsox07/media/coming-to-america-o1_zpsbmrrnzzz.gif.html)

[pnft17]

Peyton is a total fraud. Way he acted at Super Bowl was all you needed to see. Kisses the Papa John guy first. Why is he even in the sideline. Then works Budweiser in every post game interview. More worried about his next commercial. Total loser.

[rittdk01]

Wow lots of sour grapes over the epic end to his career:)!

GOAT!

[IamRalpho]

It's an old story that King dug up. It's already been covered and forgot. Now, 20 years later he wants people to re-live it. Why?

Be snarky all you want, but there is no justice to come of this. It's King trying to smear Manning after he was butt hurt with how people blasted Cam Newton after the Super Bowl. Nothing more.

Yes the allegations and stuff have been around forever, that isnt news.

What is new is the transcript of how the school and the family tried to blame others, lied under oath and covered it up

Bad mouth Shaun King all you want, he didnt write the transcript or the facts of the case, which people are ignoring. Its not a smear campaign when its an actual court transcript and witness statements my man.

The correlation between Cam Newton and the University trying to tell this woman to blame a black student have nothing to do with each other.

[IamRalpho]

Wait a second, so apparently teabagging = rape now? Ummm... hahahaha

Do you even know what the definition of "rape" is, dude?

Sore Pats fans always crawl out of the woodwork when negative stories on Manning break because they're so desperate to feel better about rooting for the most tainted QB in NFL history.

Queue the butthurt Pats fans...

Its not rape.

Its sexual harassment.

Quote Patriot fans all you want but last I check Tom Brady never sexually harassed anyone or had his father bad mouth his accuser under oath.

Keep on keeping on tho

[IndySportsCards]

We've got bigger issues in this world than what happened on a college campus 20+ years ago.

[cadillac540]

Took me a minute to realize that this isn't the former Bucs QB Shaun King being linked to this story. I'm like, "I'm pretty sure Shaun King is black last I checked."

lmfao I thought I was the only one. I can't help but think of him every time I hear his name.

[jasonm2121]

lmfao I thought I was the only one. I can't help but think of him every time I hear his name.

I remember bein pumped to get his SP Authentic RC from the first box I broke, he and Erik Rhett were gonna be the foundation there.

[MeteoriteGuy]

The blind defense some of you have on Peyton is at best laughable.

[GrangerCollectr]

We've got bigger issues in this world than what happened on a college campus 20+ years ago.

This all day erry day. Lots of fun little trolls in this thread getting everybody all worked up :coffee:

[MeteoriteGuy]

Right, cause world issues is what this forum is all about.

[GrangerCollectr]

Right, cause world issues is what this forum is all about.

BOOM! :D

[cadillac540]

I remember bein pumped to get his SP Authentic RC from the first box I broke, he and Erik Rhett were gonna be the foundation there.

Rhett... lol... now THAT'S a name I haven't heard in a long time.

[jasonm2121]

Right, cause world issues is what this forum is all about.

Hahahahahaha

[jasonm2121]

Rhett... lol... now THAT'S a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Guy was awesome, for like 10 weeks :)

[coureymarshall]

Yes the allegations and stuff have been around forever, that isnt news.

What is new is the transcript of how the school and the family tried to blame others, lied under oath and covered it up

Bad mouth Shaun King all you want, he didnt write the transcript or the facts of the case, which people are ignoring. Its not a smear campaign when its an actual court transcript and witness statements



please note: What occurred is by NO means, acceptable.

It’s important to understand what the 74-page document is, and what it isn’t. The 74-page document is a piece of advocacy. The 74-page document is something that was written by the lawyers representing Jamie Ann Naughright in her defamation case against the Mannings. The 74-page document is one-sided.

The 74-page document is NOT a court order or any other decision made by a neutral party. The 74-page document is incomplete without comparing it to the corresponding “Facts of the Case” document submitted by the defendants in the case.

With all stories, as in this case, everyone should remember: there is 3 sides to every story...
1) her side
2) his side
3) and the truth

[BostonNut]

please note: What occurred is by NO means, acceptable.

It’s important to understand what the 74-page document is, and what it isn’t. The 74-page document is a piece of advocacy. The 74-page document is something that was written by the lawyers representing Jamie Ann Naughright in her defamation case against the Mannings. The 74-page document is one-sided.

The 74-page document is NOT a court order or any other decision made by a neutral party. The 74-page document is incomplete without comparing it to the corresponding “Facts of the Case” document submitted by the defendants in the case.

With all stories, as in this case, everyone should remember: there is 3 sides to every story...
1) her side
2) his side
3) and the truth

Well in this case there is a 4th side...Malcolm Saxon's.

[coureymarshall]

Well in this case there is a 4th side...Malcolm Saxon's.

True. I would be more than willing to bet he did do it. At the same time, just want to remind everyone that there is likely a whole lot more to the story than meets the eye. With that said, by NO means where his actions acceptable.

[jasonm2121]

True. I would be more than willing to bet he did do it. At the same time, just want to remind everyone that there is likely a whole lot more to the story than meets the eye. With that said, by NO means where his actions acceptable.

I agree, I think the biggest thing is the whole throwing people under the bus side of it. We all make mistakes and mess up, no one is perfect or expecting anyone else to be, but lying and getting others in trouble or damaging their reputations is kind of horrible, if any of that is true.

[HBMC]

True. I would be more than willing to bet he did do it. At the same time, just want to remind everyone that there is likely a whole lot more to the story than meets the eye. With that said, by NO means where his actions acceptable.

What's truly hilarious about this situation is that this is 13 year old paperwork that hasn't been hidden by anyone. King's embellishment of hard facts in his piece scream of his lack of credibility to speak to anything.

[tspro]

Never knew about this and really don't care.

[freethrowtommy]

Was everyone just waiting on Manning's storybook ending to begin crapping on him? I'm not saying its something that shouldn't be brought up or anything, but why wait 17 years to start reporting?

[88horsepower]

Was everyone just waiting on Manning's storybook ending to begin crapping on him? I'm not saying its something that shouldn't be brought up or anything, but why wait 17 years to start reporting?

So people could crap on him.

[NoleinJax]

Let me know who the Patriots draft with their 1st round pick this year and when NFL refunds the Patriots 1 million dollar fine. Brady was found guilty by the NFL.

No one here is defending sexual harassment, like they did rapist Jameis. People are questioning why people are bringing up an old story. There is nothing new here. This court document was prepared by the woman's attorneys to win her lawsuit. It is biased and sheds no new light on this incident.

Rats60 is a rapist. See hour easy it is to call someone something on the internet? Moron

[NoleinJax]

Well good thing the NFL isnt a court of law, since what the NFL did, according to the court of law was unethical and reversed.

Good comparison though, maybe Brady will pay off the NFL or just guilty people like Peyton and Winston do that?

Terrible comparisons and defending harassment is amazing.


WTF are you even talking about? So you are saying Winston paid off the NFL? Are you really that dumb or just trolling?

[indyguy]

Yes the allegations and stuff have been around forever, that isnt news.

What is new is the transcript of how the school and the family tried to blame others, lied under oath and covered it up

Bad mouth Shaun King all you want, he didnt write the transcript or the facts of the case, which people are ignoring. Its not a smear campaign when its an actual court transcript and witness statements my man.

The correlation between Cam Newton and the University trying to tell this woman to blame a black student have nothing to do with each other.

It isn't new. It is a 13 year old document. Those were "facts" presented only by her lawyer. Did this journalist bother gathering the documents from the other side? No. He is only interested in the smear campaign.

Again, there is no justice to come of this, so please, tell us what the point of him doing this was? It's very transparent what his reasoning is.

[bewareof94]

It isn't new. It is a 13 year old document. Those were "facts" presented only by her lawyer. Did this journalist bother gathering the documents from the other side? No. He is only interested in the smear campaign.

Again, there is no justice to come of this, so please, tell us what the point of him doing this was? It's very transparent what his reasoning is.

x1000000

[JohnRyno]

http://cdn2.teen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Stop-40-Year-Old-Virgin.gif

[Bostonsports1]

All the sh!t that happens in college and this is what people freak about? I mean I know its sexual harassment but I have seen and heard about way worse in my college days. Its prob worse if they tried to ruin her life after the fact but I really don't care if Peyton did the actual act. Maybe I am insensitive but this stuff happens to guys all the time, so I don't think its some major thing. Is it gross and juvenile? Yes. Do I compare it to rape? Not even close.

[trixstar]

Kind of a separate issue but Manning's incident is included in a huge lawsuit against UT

Lawsuit alleges Peyton Manning among Tennessee athletes who created "hostile sexual environment" (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14776509/lawsuit-alleges-peyton-manning-tennessee-athletes-created-hostile-sexual-environment)

[IamRalpho]

WTF are you even talking about? So you are saying Winston paid off the NFL? Are you really that dumb or just trolling?

Didnt Winston's accuser get paid off? Pretty sure she did.

Not that tough to understand what I was saying, try to keep up

[wheeler281]

Good ole click bait. Slurp the look aid is all Jim Jones said to his sheep. Why no Kobe story by King. I mean after all there was no social media then too right. Oh wait he isn't white

[IamRalpho]

It isn't new. It is a 13 year old document. Those were "facts" presented only by her lawyer. Did this journalist bother gathering the documents from the other side? No. He is only interested in the smear campaign.

Again, there is no justice to come of this, so please, tell us what the point of him doing this was? It's very transparent what his reasoning is.

Not really. Because hes a black lives matter activist hes going after a white quarterback, out of the blue?

Seems like a stretch.

He got the transcript, gonna get the redacted parts cleared up and as a journalist...shouldnt be report on this?

I think people trying assume hes going after Peyton Manning because of Cam Newton or because hes white is missing the point:

Peyton Manning sexually harassed this woman, trashed her in the public, under oath, lied about her and even had his family trash her while the school enabled it

Thats the story, not that the journalist hates white people

[pgisback]

Wow, this is actually making the news now. Apparently they are suing Tennessee or something and used Peyton's name for his tea bagging. I definitely thought this was more national enquirer type stuff.

[HBMC]

Did this journalist bother gathering the documents from the other side? No. He is only interested in the smear campaign.


That word can only stretch so far, this clown isn't one of them.

Didnt Winston's accuser get paid off? Pretty sure she did.

Not that tough to understand what I was saying, try to keep up

She was paid off to go away, not because she had a concrete case in her favor. It's much more economical for the University to just write her some hush money instead of prove that her case was without merit in court.

[wheeler281]

Where Did All the Money Shaun King Raised for Black Lives Go? - The Daily Beast (http://thebea.st/1P7dxAF)
Where Did All the Money Shaun King Raised for Black Lives Go?
The most prominent face of the Black Lives Matter movement needs to explain how he spent millions he raised for causes from Haiti to racial justice across America.

[Bostonsports1]

Where Did All the Money Shaun King Raised for Black Lives Go? - The Daily Beast (http://thebea.st/1P7dxAF)
Where Did All the Money Shaun King Raised for Black Lives Go?
The most prominent face of the Black Lives Matter movement needs to explain how he spent millions he raised for causes from Haiti to racial justice across America.

No need for deflection. I'm not anti-Peyton, but the obvious deflection just hurts your case(whatever that might be)

[HBMC]

No need for deflection. I'm not anti-Peyton, but the obvious deflection just hurts your case(whatever that might be)

It's not a deflection, Shaun King is not credible. You might as well have this Op Ed be written by Malik Zulu Shabazz, it would at least lend a more honest approach to the entire operation.

[wheeler281]

No need for deflection. I'm not anti-Peyton, but the obvious deflection just hurts your case(whatever that might be)

I have no case.to help.
However to think he doesn't have an agenda is laughable. King is a lazy writer that picks his stories. I guarantee this wouldn't be rehashed again if it was certain other athletes. Its old and over. Now because social media wasn't around we need to bring stuff back. In Kings case only one thing matters

[Bostonsports1]

It's not a deflection, Shaun King is not credible. You might as well have this Op Ed be written by Malik Zulu Shabazz, it would at least lend a more honest approach to the entire operation.

This is exactly like all the Pats fans saying Wells is not credible due to his previous investigations. Lets just take it at face value until proven otherwise, no? Im sure most sources have reasons to not be credible based on past one way or another.

[Bostonsports1]

I have no case.to help.
However to think he doesn't have an agenda is laughable. King is a lazy writer that picks his stories. I guarantee this wouldn't be rehashed again if it was certain other athletes. Its old and over. Now because social media wasn't around we need to brimgs stuff back

Maybe. I admittedly don't know crap about the source, I just hate jumping on the source first as the initial action. It a annoying tactic

[pgisback]

I have no case.to help.
However to think he doesn't have an agenda is laughable. King is a lazy writer that picks his stories. I guarantee this wouldn't be rehashed again if it was certain other athletes. Its old and over. Now because social media wasn't around we need to brimgs stuff back

I'm watching ESPN right now and they went to the studio to do a developing story talking about him "putting his genitals on her face". Apparently there's a lawsuit against UT and he's being referenced in it.

[jasonm2121]

Maybe. I admittedly don't know crap about the source, I just hate jumping on the source first as the initial action. It a annoying tactic

I will tell you a good source, Chris Mortenson, ever heard of him? Guy is top notch.

[wheeler281]

Maybe. I admittedly don't know crap about the source, I just hate jumping on the source first as the initial action. It a annoying tactic

Good thing I am not. King is a known fraud that I have commented on before on non sports issues and sites elsewhere

[devo]

Not really. Because hes a black lives matter activist hes going after a white quarterback, out of the blue?

Seems like a stretch.

He got the transcript, gonna get the redacted parts cleared up and as a journalist...shouldnt be report on this?

I think people trying assume hes going after Peyton Manning because of Cam Newton or because hes white is missing the point:

Peyton Manning sexually harassed this woman, trashed her in the public, under oath, lied about her and even had his family trash her while the school enabled it

Thats the story, not that the journalist hates white people

Out of the blue? If you're really dumb enough to think this was all brought up "out of the blue", then there's not much more to say about you. This is a classic example of bringing someone down when they're on top, something our modern society loves to do.

[jasonm2121]

I'm watching ESPN right now and they went to the studio to do a developing story talking about him "putting his genitals on her face". Apparently there's a lawsuit against UT and he's being referenced in it.

oh man, heard it all now

[Bostonsports1]

Good thing I am not. King is a known fraud that I have commented on before on non sports issues and sites elsewhere

Gotcha, didn't know it was so widely known he is a terrible source.

Either way, this is annoying. Now two years in a row the SB winning QB is getting crapped on by all the haters.

[jasonm2121]

Gotcha, didn't know it was so widely known he is a terrible source.

Either way, this is annoying. Now two years in a row the SB winning QB is getting crapped on by all the haters.

At the end of the day I think this is what it comes down to, people have been waiting for anything to bring these guys down. Now, it is still quite clear that people want to bring down Brady much more than anyone else but I think the motives are pretty much the same

[HBMC]

Lets just take it at face value until proven otherwise, no?

An editorial isn't admissible as hard evidence, and an unsealed court document that is entirely one side of the story is not something that should be blindly accepted "just because". That's not how my mind works, I am not a reactionary, I wait until all evidence is provided before my mind is made up about a particular situation.

Maybe. I admittedly don't know crap about the source, I just hate jumping on the source first as the initial action. It a annoying tactic

Tom Brady is a pederast, accept what I wrote at full face value or else you're slandering my character as a journalist, I even have my own lawyer's letterhead and dissertation to prove it from my own accusations and case pertaining to the issue.

See how ludicrous that standard is?

[pgisback]

At the end of the day I think this is what it comes down to, people have been waiting for anything to bring these guys down. Now, it is still quite clear that people want to bring down Brady much more than anyone else but I think the motives are pretty much the same

Brady's thing was the most ridiculous witch hunt I've seen in sports. Made the NFL look ridiculous. Manning has some serious "scandals" going on. I don't believe them, but hgh shipments and sexual assault are real issues.

[Bostonsports1]

Tom Brady is a pederast, accept what I wrote at full face value or else you're slandering my character as a journalist, I even have my own lawyer's letterhead and dissertation to prove it from my own accusations and case pertaining to the issue.

See how ludicrous that standard is?

I see your point, but its still a tactic I find annoying.

[jasonm2121]

Brady's thing was the most ridiculous witch hunt I've seen in sports. Made the NFL look ridiculous. Manning has some serious "scandals" going on. I don't believe them, but hgh shipments and sexual assault are real issues.

no argument here sir, still cannot believe the story ever occured

As for Peyton, if any of it ends up being true, I would say they are pretty serious as well. Unlike ESPN and the league I will wait for actual proven facts, not Mort's tweets.

[xbignick]

Was everyone just waiting on Manning's storybook ending to begin crapping on him? I'm not saying its something that shouldn't be brought up or anything, but why wait 17 years to start reporting?

Apparently the goon story hit after certain media obligations were done with...so if he's done a lot of outlets are done with him I suppose and can air out things they wouldn't have before.

[bewareof94]

This is exactly like all the Pats fans saying Wells is not credible due to his previous investigations. Lets just take it at face value until proven otherwise, no? Im sure most sources have reasons to not be credible based on past one way or another.

Why exactly should it be taken at face value? Because you said so?.... This situation is nothing like Wells/Deflategate, that's just a silly comparison.

As other members have pointed out and provided facts, King's character, bias and credibility are incredibly suspect at best in not only his past, but in this situation. He digs up a decade+ old story, presents the victim's side of the story and only the victim's side, and it just so happens to be when Peyton is pretty much the hottest name in all of sports.

If some want to make a mental note to hang on to this story and wait to see what else comes of it, if anything, that's fine, but on the flip side it's absolutely valid at this point to question the writer, his past, his credentials and his motives.

[Bostonsports1]

Why exactly should it be taken at face value? Because you said so?.... This situation is nothing like Wells/Deflategate, that's just a silly comparison.

As other members have pointed out and provided facts, King's character, bias and credibility are incredibly suspect at best in not only his past, but in this situation. He digs up a decade+ old story, presents the victim's side of the story and only the victim's side, and it just so happens to be when Peyton is pretty much the hottest name in all of sports.

If some want to make a mental note to hang on to this story and wait to see what else comes of it, if anything, that's fine, but on the flip side it's absolutely valid at this point to question the writer, his past, his credentials and his motives.

I guess my point is, lets wait to get all the data points, facts, articles, etc, before we resort to attacking the source or who wrote the article. Feel like its a shallow argument. And no, the Wells comparison is not that far-fetched considering a previous investigation he had done was set up to have a defined conclusion. But even with him, lets at least see what his facts say, compare them to others, and form a logical conclusion, not just immediately discredit him.

[Cades]

Why exactly should it be taken at face value? Because you said so?.... This situation is nothing like Wells/Deflategate, that's just a silly comparison.

As other members have pointed out and provided facts, King's character, bias and credibility are incredibly suspect at best in not only his past, but in this situation. He digs up a decade+ old story, presents the victim's side of the story and only the victim's side, and it just so happens to be when Peyton is pretty much the hottest name in all of sports.

If some want to make a mental note to hang on to this story and wait to see what else comes of it, if anything, that's fine, but on the flip side it's absolutely valid at this point to question the writer, his past, his credentials and his motives.

People didn't and still don't care about the facts of spy gate as well as deflategate

[88horsepower]

At the end of the day, a lot of us made judgments about Brady and the Patriots without hard proof that anything illicit ever actually happened. We can suspect without making a final judgment. My hope is that other players might be afforded latitude before we draw conclusions.

[Hess687]

People didn't and still don't care about the facts of spy gate as well as deflategate

The facts of Spygate are still note-worthy and not because of the Patriots, but because of Roger Goodell's botched attempt to save "the integrity of the game" which only came back to bite him in the ass. Deflate gate is nothing more than an attempt by Roger Goodell to right all his wrongs when Spygate occurred and he's failing horribly, as he should be.

Nobody should receive more heat and hatred than Roger Goodell for both Spygate and Deflate gate. Not even the Patriots.

[jasonm2121]

The facts of Spygate are still note-worthy and not because of the Patriots, but because of Roger Goodell's botched attempt to save "the integrity of the game" which only came back to bite him in the ass. Deflate gate is nothing more than an attempt by Roger Goodell to right all his wrongs when Spygate occurred and he's failing horribly, as he should be.

Nobody should receive more heat and hatred than Roger Goodell for both Spygate and Deflate gate. Not even the Patriots.


guy is a menace

[CrownCollector]

Oh look, another thread/situation that has absolutely zero to do with the Patriots, yet it took not even one page for the brainwashed Patriot apologists to use this as another platform to defend their precious team. You guys are hilarious, you don't shy away from any thread no matter how good or bad the topic is, to say "HEY, LOOK AT US, WE CAN TURN ANY SUBJECT INTO A JUSTIFICATION PIECE ABOUT OUR AWESOME PATRIOTS BEING THE BEST AND THEY NEVER CHEATED BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THEY DIDNT."

Good show, golf claps all around. Someone could start a thread about a purple and green mushroom growing out of a dog turd that they ate and started tripping balls to the point where they ended up on a planet full of amazon women who feed you steak and lobster while giving you an entire body massage while Jerry Garcia played Sugar Magnolia live... And the Blowout Mafia (affectionately known as violent BM's) Pat fans would jump in to tell you how Kraft actually supplied the dirt the dog crapped in and the only reason the shroom was so good is because The Hoody blessed the puppy upon birth and Brady once bought the dog a flea collar.

[RedSoxFan28]

Oh look, another thread/situation that has absolutely zero to do with the Patriots, yet it took not even one page for the brainwashed Patriot apologists to use this as another platform to defend their precious team. You guys are hilarious, you don't shy away from any thread no matter how good or bad the topic is, to say "HEY, LOOK AT US, WE CAN TURN ANY SUBJECT INTO A JUSTIFICATION PIECE ABOUT OUR AWESOME PATRIOTS BEING THE BEST AND THEY NEVER CHEATED BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THEY DIDNT."

Good show, golf claps all around. Someone could start a thread about a purple and green mushroom growing out of a dog turd that they ate and started tripping balls to the point where they ended up on a planet full of amazon women who feed you steak and lobster while giving you an entire body massage while Jerry Garcia played Sugar Magnolia live... And the Blowout Mafia (affectionately known as violent BM's) Pat fans would jump in to tell you how Kraft actually supplied the dirt the dog crapped in and the only reason the shroom was so good is because The Hoody blessed the puppy upon birth and Brady once bought the dog a flea collar.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Staring-Confused-Ron-Swanson.gif

[jlzinck]

Oh look, another thread/situation that has absolutely zero to do with the Patriots, yet it took not even one page for the brainwashed Patriot apologists to use this as another platform to defend their precious team. You guys are hilarious, you don't shy away from any thread no matter how good or bad the topic is, to say "HEY, LOOK AT US, WE CAN TURN ANY SUBJECT INTO A JUSTIFICATION PIECE ABOUT OUR AWESOME PATRIOTS BEING THE BEST AND THEY NEVER CHEATED BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THEY DIDNT."

Good show, golf claps all around. Someone could start a thread about a purple and green mushroom growing out of a dog turd that they ate and started tripping balls to the point where they ended up on a planet full of amazon women who feed you steak and lobster while giving you an entire body massage while Jerry Garcia played Sugar Magnolia live... And the Blowout Mafia (affectionately known as violent BM's) Pat fans would jump in to tell you how Kraft actually supplied the dirt the dog crapped in and the only reason the shroom was so good is because The Hoody blessed the puppy upon birth and Brady once bought the dog a flea collar.

Just for the record....these 2 were the 1st to introduce the patriots into this.
Neither is a Patriots fan.

This thread probably won't go anywhere either, but man if I had posted "Brady caught in 2005 deflating Footballs" it'd be a 100 page fight.

Not dumb at all.....I'll back him up....Manning is the GOAT. If put to a poll Brady would definitely win because this board is definitely Boston heavy so don't bother taking that route.

To each their own.

God Bless

[BostonNut]

Oh look, another thread/situation that has absolutely zero to do with the Patriots, yet it took not even one page for the brainwashed Patriot apologists to use this as another platform to defend their precious team. You guys are hilarious, you don't shy away from any thread no matter how good or bad the topic is, to say "HEY, LOOK AT US, WE CAN TURN ANY SUBJECT INTO A JUSTIFICATION PIECE ABOUT OUR AWESOME PATRIOTS BEING THE BEST AND THEY NEVER CHEATED BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THEY DIDNT."

Good show, golf claps all around. Someone could start a thread about a purple and green mushroom growing out of a dog turd that they ate and started tripping balls to the point where they ended up on a planet full of amazon women who feed you steak and lobster while giving you an entire body massage while Jerry Garcia played Sugar Magnolia live... And the Blowout Mafia (affectionately known as violent BM's) Pat fans would jump in to tell you how Kraft actually supplied the dirt the dog crapped in and the only reason the shroom was so good is because The Hoody blessed the puppy upon birth and Brady once bought the dog a flea collar.

Uh.....:eek:

You seem to have some issues to work through...

[indyguy]

Not really. Because hes a black lives matter activist hes going after a white quarterback, out of the blue?

Seems like a stretch.

He got the transcript, gonna get the redacted parts cleared up and as a journalist...shouldnt be report on this?

I think people trying assume hes going after Peyton Manning because of Cam Newton or because hes white is missing the point:

Peyton Manning sexually harassed this woman, trashed her in the public, under oath, lied about her and even had his family trash her while the school enabled it

Thats the story, not that the journalist hates white people

Whitlock calls out Shaun King (not the quarterback) | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/15/whitlock-calls-out-shaun-king-not-the-quarterback/)

Black Lives Matter activist has the GALL to say this about Peyton Manning - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com (http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/02/black-lives-matter-fake-has-the-gall-to-say-this-about-peyton-manning/)

The piece leading up to Peyton:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445

[Pot Roast]

Just for the record....these 2 were the 1st to introduce the patriots into this.
Neither is a Patriots fan.





God Bless

nope

Brady was introduced by jasonm2121 post #4.

[TASS]

Oh look, another thread/situation that has absolutely zero to do with the Patriots, yet it took not even one page for the brainwashed Patriot apologists to use this as another platform to defend their precious team. You guys are hilarious, you don't shy away from any thread no matter how good or bad the topic is, to say "HEY, LOOK AT US, WE CAN TURN ANY SUBJECT INTO A JUSTIFICATION PIECE ABOUT OUR AWESOME PATRIOTS BEING THE BEST AND THEY NEVER CHEATED BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THEY DIDNT."

Good show, golf claps all around. Someone could start a thread about a purple and green mushroom growing out of a dog turd that they ate and started tripping balls to the point where they ended up on a planet full of amazon women who feed you steak and lobster while giving you an entire body massage while Jerry Garcia played Sugar Magnolia live... And the Blowout Mafia (affectionately known as violent BM's) Pat fans would jump in to tell you how Kraft actually supplied the dirt the dog crapped in and the only reason the shroom was so good is because The Hoody blessed the puppy upon birth and Brady once bought the dog a flea collar.

As both a Patriots fan and a Dead Head I take extreme offense with you even mentioning the name Jerry Garcia in a Peyton Manning tea bagging thread.

Lay off the shrooms bro ;)

[jlzinck]

nope

Brady was introduced by jasonm2121 post #4.

Stop it. That was to the word GOAT and nothing else:doh:

[Pot Roast]

Stop it. That was to the word GOAT and nothing else:doh:

Peyton Manning is the GOAT.

Patriot fan says Brady is GOAT.

They both agree to disagree and go their separate ways.


Yup sounds like the Blowout I know.:doh:

If you can't see how that comment didn't start the snowball, Idk what to tell you.

[Siberian13]

God Bless

Satan Bless :)

[jasonm2121]

Stop it. That was to the word GOAT and nothing else:doh:

Brady is the GOAT, what's the issue here?

[BostonNut]

Manning tea bagged a goat? Huh?

[Siberian13]

Manning tea bagged a goat? Huh?

Did Brady swallow or just gargle and choke?

[Pot Roast]

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/6/6f/28468-Taylor-swift-lol-gif-OMBg.gif/revision/latest?cb=20130806122705

[Grid]

Brady is the GOAT, what's the issue here?

I don't have a dog in this fight but... Brady only has one NFL passing record. 50 TD's in a season. Peyton has 49 BTW.

Outside of that these are Peyton's all time #1 records
71,940 yards passing in career.
3,739 passing rookie record.
Most passing TD's by a rookie (26)
Most Passes Attempted, Rookie, Season (575)
Most Passes Completed, Rookie, Season (326)
Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season (6)
Most Consecutive Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes (5)
Highest Passer Rating, Season (121.1)

2nd place all time (some are ties)
Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League (3. Brady 0)
Highest Passer Rating, Career (1,500 attempts) (94.7)
Most Games, 400 or More Yards Passing, Career (7)
Most Seasons Leading League TD's (3)
Most Touchdown Passes, Season (49, 1 behind Brady)

Brady has 1 record and came in 2nd (Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season) one time. And that was behind Peyton manning.

If we were asking who the GOAT Post Season QB was I'd take Brady over Peyton (but behind Montana) But if we are talking the GOAT QB, why would someone who has never been the best at anything in a career, or even season, except one record, be considered over the one that holds eight?

For the record Sid Luckman holds twice the all time records of Brady and three times as many 2nd place ones :coffee:

[rats60]

Brady is the GOAT, what's the issue here?

Brady's not the GOAT, Brady's the GCOAT.

[BostonNut]

I don't have a dog in this fight but... Brady only has one NFL passing record. 50 TD's in a season. Peyton has 49 BTW.


Incorrect.

[Grid]

Incorrect.

Not updated for the 2015 season yet. But...

NFL Records (http://www.nfl.com/history/randf/records/indiv/passing)

Please tell me what I missed. If they are post season records, and that falls under my statement of "If we were asking who the GOAT Post Season QB was I'd take Brady over Peyton (but behind Montana)" so tell me whats incorrect...

[Pot Roast]

I don't have a dog in this fight but... Brady only has one NFL passing record. 50 TD's in a season. Peyton has 49 BTW.

Outside of that these are Peyton's all time #1 records
71,940 yards passing in career.
3,739 passing rookie record.
Most passing TD's by a rookie (26)
Most Passes Attempted, Rookie, Season (575)
Most Passes Completed, Rookie, Season (326)
Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season (6)
Most Consecutive Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes (5)
Highest Passer Rating, Season (121.1)

2nd place all time (some are ties)
Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League (3. Brady 0)
Highest Passer Rating, Career (1,500 attempts) (94.7)
Most Games, 400 or More Yards Passing, Career (7)
Most Seasons Leading League TD's (3)
Most Touchdown Passes, Season (49, 1 behind Brady)

Brady has 1 record and came in 2nd (Most Games, Four or More Touchdown Passes, Season) one time. And that was behind Peyton manning.

If we were asking who the GOAT Post Season QB was I'd take Brady over Peyton (but behind Montana) But if we are talking the GOAT QB, why would someone who has never been the best at anything in a career, or even season, except one record, be considered over the one that holds eight?

For the record Sid Luckman holds twice the all time records of Brady and three times as many 2nd place ones :coffee:

2013 Peyton Manning had 55 TD's..........

[BostonNut]

Not updated for the 2015 season yet. But...

NFL Records (http://www.nfl.com/history/randf/records/indiv/passing)

Please tell me what I missed. If they are post season records, and that falls under my statement of "If we were asking who the GOAT Post Season QB was I'd take Brady over Peyton (but behind Montana)" so tell me whats incorrect...

Did you fall asleep for all of 2013? :coffee:

[Grid]

Did you fall asleep for all of 2013? :coffee:

I guess so! It wasnt listed in my cut and paste NFL page article i linked. So what you are saying is that Brady holds zero records but he is still the GOAT? Now I get it!

[BostonNut]

I guess so! It wasnt listed in my cut and paste NFL page article i linked. So what you are saying is that Brady holds zero records but he is still the GOAT? Now I get it!

Uhhhh....where exactly did I say Brady is the greatest of all time? :confused: