Just picked up 9 hobby boxes for 80 bucks a pop .. why not right .. going to try my best and stash 5


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Best retail bang for buck?

Blasters
Fat Packs
Hangers

?

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14592930]Best retail bang for buck?

Blasters
Fat Packs
Hangers

?[/QUOTE]

absolutely!

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;14592936]absolutely![/QUOTE]

Which one?

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14592930]Best retail bang for buck?

Blasters
Fat Packs
Hangers

?[/QUOTE]



Take the cost of each type, divide by the number of cards. Once you have the cost per card, you'll have your answer.

Remember, you're chasing base cards, not hits.

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;14592946]Take the cost of each type, divide by the number of cards. Once you have the cost per card, you'll have your answer.

Remember, you're chasing base cards, not hits.[/QUOTE]

i agree with this

which of the three is the lowest % below SRP?

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;14592950]i agree with this



which of the three is the lowest % below SRP?[/QUOTE]



That’s the answer. Some of the smart guys figured the odds are basically the same across all formats.


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Have any of the big Platinum Soto/Acuna/Ohtanis etc surfaced yet?

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;14591073]Thanks guys. I was trying to do the math regarding the retails vs. hobby. With hobby closing in on $100, the retails in the $35 range seem like a no-brainer. Sure, you miss out on the black parallels and guaranteed auto/relic cards, but you get nearly three times as many cards for the same price (~3 retail boxes for the price of 1 hobby).

Seems like the way to go for Acuna/Soto/Gleyber chasing.[/QUOTE]

Remember when this stuff was half off on Topps website? Should have gotten more than 2 cases lol. I think someone here got 15 cases.

[QUOTE=anusinha;14593043]Remember when this stuff was half off on Topps website? Should have gotten more than 2 cases lol. I think someone here got 15 cases.[/QUOTE]



Yeah, I had my cart full and talked myself out of it.

[QUOTE=anusinha;14593043]Remember when this stuff was half off on Topps website? Should have gotten more than 2 cases lol. I think someone here got 15 cases.[/QUOTE]

i sure do!

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14592930]Best retail bang for buck?

Blasters
Fat Packs
Hangers

?[/QUOTE]

Believe fat packs are the cheapest, per card...at WMT.

[QUOTE=TarjetasBéisbol;14584844]It seems as there is lots still available too. Sure it’s loaded with rookies but how much of this is still out there and being hoarded?[/QUOTE]

plenty

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;14593124]plenty[/QUOTE]


And this has been done with every major release.

I'm telling you guys, there's someone out there with a massive stash of unopened 2011 Update. Sadly, it's not me, but I guarantee it.

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;14593132]And this has been done with every major release.

I'm telling you guys, there's someone out there with a massive stash of unopened 2011 Update. Sadly, it's not me, but I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]

i agree. This is Flagship. there is no reason not to make a ton

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14593028]Have any of the big Platinum Soto/Acuna/Ohtanis etc surfaced yet?[/QUOTE]
Nope.

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;14593132]And this has been done with every major release.

I'm telling you guys, there's someone out there with a massive stash of unopened 2011 Update. Sadly, it's not me, but I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]
I think if there was somebody with a huge stash, it's been broken up by now. It would make absolutely no sense not to cash in on some of it, when the entry was likely $500 or less a case. A sealed case would probably get $30k+ today.

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;14593260]
I think if there was somebody with a huge stash, it's been broken up by now. It would make absolutely no sense not to cash in on some of it, when the entry was likely $500 or less a case. A sealed case would probably get $30k+ today.[/QUOTE]

sure possibly. but for some, money is easy, cards not so much.

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;14593260]I think if there was somebody with a huge stash, it's been broken up by now. It would make absolutely no sense not to cash in on some of it, when the entry was likely $500 or less a case. A sealed case would probably get $30k+ today.[/QUOTE]


I'm sure some have, but there's some people out there holding out for an even bigger score. How much does a single box of 1986 Fleer Basketball sell for?

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;14593287]I'm sure some have, but there's some people out there holding out for an even bigger score. How much does a single box of 1986 Fleer Basketball sell for?[/QUOTE]
$30k. But Trout isn't MJ, and 2011 Update isn't 1986 Fleer.

2011 Update wax can and almost will certainly go higher. I'm just saying I don't think it makes financial sense to still be sitting on pallets of this stuff if you got in 8 years ago.

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;14593305]$30k. But Trout isn't MJ, and 2011 Update isn't 1986 Fleer.

2011 Update wax can and almost will certainly go higher. I'm just saying I don't think it makes financial sense to still be sitting on pallets of this stuff if you got in 8 years ago.[/QUOTE]

less 2011 Update made for sure.

also, if someone bought in 8 years ago, and still has it, im sure they are not financially concerned

Pulling the Trout Canary would slow the prices temporarily I would think.


Found a whole bunch of this at Wally World last night. Just picked an $8 hanger for now. Never bought much last fall cuz the shelves were bulging with this stuff and discounts would obviously happen.

The rip? Top card was Ichiro. Needed it, after buying only 3 of these last fall.

Next card? US1 Soto RC.

10th or so card? US300 Ohtani psuedo-RC.

Final card? Acuna Rookie Debut.

Needed all 3 of those but a surprising little run there.

Special card in middle of pack? Rickey Henderson veteran photo variant Short Print.

Question of the day - are these more common than the /2018 Golds? Some of these SPs recently can hardly be given away. Just curious about thoughts on print run in 18 Update vet. SPs?

Also pulled an Acuna insert, something to do with International stars, forget the name of those. It did not have an RC logo - I now like those Rookie Card year cards without the logo.

Ultimately, the print run on Update is so high now, and the odds of pulling a parallel so low, I wonder how much the sealed ‘wax’ will be able to appreciate.

[QUOTE=base set;14593751]Pulling the Trout Canary would slow the prices temporarily I would think.





Found a whole bunch of this at Wally World last night. Just picked an $8 hanger for now. Never bought much last fall cuz the shelves were bulging with this stuff and discounts would obviously happen.



The rip? Top card was Ichiro. Needed it, after buying only 3 of these last fall.



Next card? US1 Soto RC.



10th or so card? US300 Ohtani psuedo-RC.



Final card? Acuna Rookie Debut.



Needed all 3 of those but a surprising little run there.



Special card in middle of pack? Rickey Henderson veteran photo variant Short Print.



Question of the day - are these more common than the /2018 Golds? Some of these SPs recently can hardly be given away. Just curious about thoughts on print run in 18 Update vet. SPs?



Also pulled an Acuna insert, something to do with International stars, forget the name of those. It did not have an RC logo - I now like those Rookie Card year cards without the logo.



Ultimately, the print run on Update is so high now, and the odds of pulling a parallel so low, I wonder how much the sealed ‘wax’ will be able to appreciate.[/QUOTE]



I disagree with the last paragraph a bit. Even with increased production (again) you’re still looking at 2-3 golds and rainbows per 24 ct box and maybe a 1 in every 4-6 boxes will have a vintage or lower#d parallel. While not great, it’s enough to whet the impulse of people, especially when u consider what has been happening with flagship golds the last year or so. Just my .02


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For a hobby case, this is what you will hit.

39-40 Gold
43-44 Rainbow
1-2 Vintage
4-5 Black
1-2 Independence
1 Mother's Day
1 Father's Day
0-1 Memorial Day
3-4 Negative
1 Clear (every third case)
9-10 SP
1-2 SSP

If Acuna is the only one to pan out, you have the following odds (conservative estimate) of hitting him in a case

13% Gold
14.3% Rainbow
0.3% Vintage
1.3% Black
0.3% Independence
0.3% Mother's Day
0.3% Father's Day
0.15% Memorial Day (every other case)
1% Negative
1 Clear (every third case)
17.3% SP
8% SSP

Compare that to what you had to had a Trout parallel in 2011.

How are you more likely to hit a black than an Indy when there are more Indy's?