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This is why you don't break Ultimate Collection and try to profit
Sales: (all w/ $3.00 shipping)
Autos: Greg Olsen True RC Auto #/150 ($35.65) Alan Branch Ultimate Signatures ($5.51) Marcus McCauley Write of Passage (.99 cents) Memorabilia: Ted Ginn Jr/R. Meachem Dual Quad Jersey (2 Sided) #/99 ($6.05) Matt Leinart Dual Jersey #/99 ($3.25) Chris Henry Dual Jersey #/99 (.99 cents) Ultimate Rookie Materials: K. Kolb (.99 cents) P. Willis ($5.50) S. Rice (.99 cents) Troy Smith ($3.50) Base: J. Kitna (.99 cents) M. Harrison (.99 cents) J. Walker (did not sell) D. Brees (.99 cents) I still have the Redskins Triple Auto #/15 and the Vince Young 3 color patch to go. I spent $340.00 Sales so far: $66.00 plus making about $10.00 in shipping for a grand total of $76.00 plus two cards to go and that was pulling the 1 per case dual or triple auto. I figured going in that I was going to lose about $200.00 on the purchase and I think I will be right in line with that. (and remember, that's pulling the case hit) |
It has been said many times before... those 2 words that burn you 99.8% of the time......... UPPER DECK.
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Their hockey products are great, no complaints at all. Their football products are just awful. And the funny thing is, they have no competition for their hockey products!!
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Ahhhhh yes the 'ol Ultimate Collection FB box/case breaks......I remember them well. These packs are not for the faint at heart.
I love the way the cards look. I just hate when I get a case with very little secondary market value and getting a sick sick feeling in my stomach after a busting that case. |
Ouch yea I don't understand why people break cases/boxes. I personally haven't cracked a box in a few years. I do packs here and there but nothing that big. I mean say you buy a case a month. And say you spend $12,000 on boxes a year. I would rather spend that money on the singles or hot rookies and vintage that you want and don't lose over 75% of your money like on this box. Heck even if you pull something great in some boxes, they still might not sell for more than the box is worth. I never understood cracking boxes other than the excitement of doing so. I have always been a singles buyer.
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Thats why I gambled with just 1 box of FB ($300).
I will lose about $150 on the box. I only did 1 box of Ultimate BB. ($280) I had a nice case hit (Ripkin/Yaz Dual Auto #/10) sold that for $200, I think I broke even with that box. Even with probally the best card in the case. Ultimate is not a money maker at all. Even if you hit a (let say a Quinn auto RC #/99) you will still most likely lose money. Logos, 1/1's, etc are scarce and very unlikely. Its the thrill of a chance to pull one that makes us buy this stuff. I'll do a box of Hockey when it comes out as well. (sucker) BB |
I'll stick to making money with my hockey cases. The box of Ultimate was bought with all profit anyway.
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This is a bit off topic, but does UD even have Tom Brady autos any more? How can you have UC and Exquisite and not have Brady autos? Is he Topps exclusive?
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Alot of us have been preaching about avoiding (not so) Ultimate Collection on this board for awhile. Granted there are [I]some [/I]big money cards but this is the toughest product to even get 1/2 of your money back on year in and year out. The boxes are wayyyy over priced. I'd rather open 4 boxes of Gridiron Gear for almost the same cost of 1 Ult Col. I even passed on hockey last year because you can buy alot of the autos off fleabay for under $10.
Avoid, avoid, avoid...........the risk far outweighs the [I]usual[/I]return. |
[QUOTE=jacobbigshow;17516]Ouch yea I don't understand why people break cases/boxes. I personally haven't cracked a box in a few years. I do packs here and there but nothing that big. I mean say you buy a case a month. And say you spend $12,000 on boxes a year. I would rather spend that money on the singles or hot rookies and vintage that you want and don't lose over 75% of your money like on this box. Heck even if you pull something great in some boxes, they still might not sell for more than the box is worth. I never understood cracking boxes other than the excitement of doing so. I have always been a singles buyer.[/QUOTE]
its a gambling addiction. thats why people CRACK boxes. |
I bust cases and occasionally boxes because I take very good care when I'm opening the packs. I would much rather spend the money buying individual cards, but the truth is, there is very little care taken when someone is busting to sell everthing. When I bust products, the cards ALWAYS grade better than when I buy singles...AND I buy a lot of singles.
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[QUOTE=solt0131;17513]Their hockey products are great, no complaints at all. Their football products are just awful. And the funny thing is, they have no competition for their hockey products!![/QUOTE]
They use the same formula, hockey player collectors are more hard-core than football collectors. I saw a guy pay $570 for a Brad Richards 1/1 from 05-06 Black Diamond. Brad Richards is on the level with Deon Branch in football, do you see anyone paying more than $40-50 for a 1/1 of him? Did you turn a profit on UD1 yet? Are you on pace to? |
KMD,
Brad Richards is a playmaker. He is very underated. He can't fight worth a spit(fought matt cullen the other night) but he is a playmaker. A lot of canadian buyers tend to over pay on their local players. I think its overpriced as well but it is a 1/1. |
[QUOTE=KaraandMelliesDaddy;17616]They use the same formula, hockey player collectors are more hard-core than football collectors.
I saw a guy pay $570 for a Brad Richards 1/1 from 05-06 Black Diamond. Brad Richards is on the level with Deon Branch in football, do you see anyone paying more than $40-50 for a 1/1 of him? Did you turn a profit on UD1 yet? Are you on pace to?[/QUOTE] Oh yes, I sure did. Hitting 2 Carey Price Young Guns Exclusives definitely helped! |
I bought a box of Ultimate Baseball this year and learned my lesson early. I will never buy Ultimate again, and I [b]rarely[/b] if ever buy Upper Deck.
Also, Bowman Sterling really irritated me this year, I guess their Guaranteed Quality slogan can go into the toilet now. I spent over 300 bucks on Sterling and 50% of the cards I pulled were damaged, and this was factory damage to the sticker autos, plus two of my jersey cards, [b]HAD NO JERSEY.[/b] I sent Topps a letter, and they replaced the two cards and encouraged me to send in the autos too. I might do that, but I tell you this much, I'll never buy Bowman Sterling again either. A high end product like that needs better quality control, if they even have any, from the looks of the cards I got the guy/gal who was running Quality Control that day was either high, drunk, or stupid.. Perhaps all three. |
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