Redemption Advice - Tom Brady Five Star Auto (Baseball)

MeetJSquared · 09-26-2019, 11:07 AM

It's been 5 years sitting in my redemption queue. I've lost hope that it will get filled. He signed for the football product which came out AFTER but for whatever reason didn't sign this. I'd obviously rather have the card, but finally sent Topps an email last night asking what I could possibly get as replacement(s). The only comps I see are the 2014 Five Star Football autos that both sold north of $1000. What can I even expect in return? Since Topps hasn't had the football license in 5 years, they probably don't have any football replacements. Do I just go for Trout/Koufax type baseball guys? Can I ask them to get me a Brady auto from Panini?

If you don't know, Brady/Marino/Elway were all in the 2014 Five Star baseball release since they were all drafted at one point by MLB teams.

redsoxking94 · 09-26-2019, 12:31 PM

I wouldn't trust topps, they more than likely send you Clint Frazier and Kevin Ziomek autos.

JustinTime42 · 09-26-2019, 12:39 PM

Knowing Topps they will send you a $2 auto as replacement

cspaced25 · 09-26-2019, 12:42 PM

IF they would let you choose between a few names then I’d consider a replacement. But if they are just going to send out something they think is an acceptable replacement, absolutely not!!!

TheWrightStuff · 09-26-2019, 12:49 PM

Call and speak with someone. Ask them what value they would place on the card for a substitution. They will probably have to send you multiple cards even of top players like Trout to equal the value.

MeetJSquared · 09-27-2019, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by redsoxking94

I wouldn't trust topps, they more than likely send you Clint Frazier and Kevin Ziomek autos.

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Originally Posted by JustinTime42

Knowing Topps they will send you a $2 auto as replacement

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Originally Posted by cspaced25

IF they would let you choose between a few names then I’d consider a replacement. But if they are just going to send out something they think is an acceptable replacement, absolutely not!!!

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Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

Call and speak with someone. Ask them what value they would place on the card for a substitution. They will probably have to send you multiple cards even of top players like Trout to equal the value.

Yeah, no way I'm letting them just blindly choose for me. I'm fine getting multiple cards (with say $400+ value). I just can't even think of what they'd have in that category. I'm going to post on their Twitter today and if I don't get a reply from my original email by Monday, I guess I'll give them a call then.

bavariancream · 09-27-2019, 11:21 AM

Agree with other posts.. find out who/what you will get specifically, because that card would have been a monster.

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discostu · 09-27-2019, 12:13 PM

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Shadowsonic2004 · 09-27-2019, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MeetJSquared

Yeah, no way I'm letting them just blindly choose for me. I'm fine getting multiple cards (with say $400+ value). I just can't even think of what they'd have in that category. I'm going to post on their Twitter today and if I don't get a reply from my original email by Monday, I guess I'll give them a call then.

Don't settle for $400. I think it's worth over that.

MeetJSquared · 09-27-2019, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowsonic2004

Don't settle for $400. I think it's worth over that.

I meant multiple cards with $400+ value. I'm expecting north of $1000, and from responses here and in the Football section, it seems like $1200-1500 is where it should be.

Cavaliercards · 09-27-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

The best part is that there was never a chance of this card being created.

I can't fathom why, in today's hobby, anyone would actually hold onto a redemption and redeem it.

Trusting these companies to follow-through on anything is infantile.

They loaded their last year of Products with redemptions that had zero chance of being fulfilled and were always going to be replaced by baseball backstock or expire.

callou2131 · 09-27-2019, 02:54 PM

How many Henry owens cards would you feel is an acceptable trade off?

MeetJSquared · 09-28-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by callou2131

How many Henry owens cards would you feel is an acceptable trade off?

Probably like 5000. I can trade in like 100 at a time to Blowout and whoever else takes junk autos for $1 each and eventually I'll have enough to go buy myself another Brady auto.

MeetJSquared · 11-19-2019, 11:48 AM

After a few back and forths, they claim the value is around $850.

First offer is laughable, in my opinion:

Quote:

Original Card: 2014 Five Star Auto Rainbow Parallel of Tom Brady

Replacement offer: 2019 Bowman Chrome Autograph Gold Refractor /50 Vladimir Guerrero Jr + random 50$ card

Value: $850 eBay

Soxfanguy · 11-19-2019, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MeetJSquared

After a few back and forths, they claim the value is around $850.

First offer is laughable, in my opinion:

850? Brady auto is worth like what, 2000?

Peties Army · 11-19-2019, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MeetJSquared

After a few back and forths, they claim the value is around $850.

First offer is laughable, in my opinion:

oh no like that offer

TraderJake · 11-19-2019, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MeetJSquared

After a few back and forths, they claim the value is around $850.

First offer is laughable, in my opinion:

thats gonna be a hard pass. Thats a $400 card as a raw/psa 9 (not even a RC logo!)

MeetJSquared · 11-19-2019, 11:55 AM

My guess is they're trying to use this card for value comp, no thanks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Bowman...-/174073729361

I'm asking $1200ish, if they want me to cherry pick Brady Autos, I can find one much higher.

Soxfanguy · 11-19-2019, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeetJSquared

After a few back and forths, they claim the value is around $850.

First offer is laughable, in my opinion:

At least it's not a Henry Owens auto

MeetJSquared · 01-29-2020, 01:35 PM

So on 11/20 they said they can make a second offer, but it took me following up on 1/9 to finally get a 2nd offer on the 28th:

Original Card:2014 Five Star Auto Rainbow Parallel of Tom Brady
Current Estimated Value: $850.00 eBay
Substitution Card: 2019 Diamond Icons Mike Trout Auto Dual Relic /10

So I looked on eBay and only saw these comps:
Red version 1/5 - $710
Base 7/10 BGS 9.5/10 - $880

My reply:

I am interested in that Trout but comps on that are below the $850 so i would like something else added in.

The only two comps I see are:
Red version 1/5 - $710
Base 7/10 BGS 9.5/10 - $880

Based on those, an ungraded dual relic /10 would probably be close to $600. Is there something else in the $200-300 range that can be added in to make up the difference?

Their reply:
Hello,

Thank you for your response.

Unfortunately we do not agree on the value of this card being $600.00. We do have this priced at the $850.00. We will not be adding additional cards to this offer.

If rejected we will have to replace the card with completely random cards for equal value. Please advise what you would like to do.

Best regards,
Tyler
Customer Service Representative

So I replied back essentially saying I will not take either, they are basically just picking arbitrary numbers for their comps, I want this escalated and the whole point is to get a card I can sell to buy a Brady auto (or give me some high-end Tatis for the PC which I assume they don't have)

LC2nine10 · 01-29-2020, 01:41 PM

Escalted to what?
They should offer you more, but i doubt much. They have almost 0 incentive to.

I hope you do get something cool to sell.

jusdukky · 01-29-2020, 01:42 PM

Based on your latest exchange with them it sounds like you will be getting completely random cards of their choice. That really sucks for you!! Just not right at all.

baseballbunez · 01-29-2020, 01:45 PM

There is nothing to escalate to, and you will not win in negotiations for a replacement. They're covered and can legitimately send you whatever they choose as a replacement

TheWrightStuff · 01-29-2020, 01:51 PM

File a complaint with the better business bureau. It wont do much but do it anyways. I still don't see how it is legal for Topps to give out IOU's and then not fulfill it. I decided two years ago to never redeem another redemption. IF I pull one Ill sell it even if its a card I want. Topps will try and screw us any chance they get.

Bcwcardz · 01-29-2020, 02:13 PM

I would just take the Trout and call it a day. Topps continually screws us collectors but they have a damn monopoly so we have no choice. They know people keep buying regardless of their customer service. Why would they change? They never have the intention of having these cards signed in the first place. It’s fraudulent in my opinion but you probably can’t prove it.

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09-26-2019, 11:07 AM	#1
MeetJSquared Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,336	Redemption Advice - Tom Brady Five Star Auto (Baseball) It's been 5 years sitting in my redemption queue. I've lost hope that it will get filled. He signed for the football product which came out AFTER but for whatever reason didn't sign this. I'd obviously rather have the card, but finally sent Topps an email last night asking what I could possibly get as replacement(s). The only comps I see are the 2014 Five Star Football autos that both sold north of $1000. What can I even expect in return? Since Topps hasn't had the football license in 5 years, they probably don't have any football replacements. Do I just go for Trout/Koufax type baseball guys? Can I ask them to get me a Brady auto from Panini? If you don't know, Brady/Marino/Elway were all in the 2014 Five Star baseball release since they were all drafted at one point by MLB teams. __________________ Looking for Manny Machado 2022 & 2023 Definitive 1/1s Last edited by MeetJSquared; 11-26-2019 at 12:24 PM.

09-27-2019, 12:13 PM	#8
discostu Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 7,990	* Try the papaya * __________________ Every day I start to ooze. Last edited by discostu; 11-14-2019 at 10:56 PM.

09-27-2019, 02:54 PM	#12
callou2131 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centreville, Md Posts: 8,480	How many Henry owens cards would you feel is an acceptable trade off? __________________ Sent using US Airways Wifi

11-19-2019, 11:55 AM	#18
MeetJSquared Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,336	My guess is they're trying to use this card for value comp, no thanks. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Bowman...-/174073729361 I'm asking $1200ish, if they want me to cherry pick Brady Autos, I can find one much higher. __________________ Looking for Manny Machado 2022 & 2023 Definitive 1/1s

01-29-2020, 01:35 PM	#20
MeetJSquared Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,336	So on 11/20 they said they can make a second offer, but it took me following up on 1/9 to finally get a 2nd offer on the 28th: Original Card:2014 Five Star Auto Rainbow Parallel of Tom Brady Current Estimated Value: $850.00 eBay Substitution Card: 2019 Diamond Icons Mike Trout Auto Dual Relic /10 So I looked on eBay and only saw these comps: Red version 1/5 - $710 Base 7/10 BGS 9.5/10 - $880 My reply: I am interested in that Trout but comps on that are below the $850 so i would like something else added in. The only two comps I see are: Red version 1/5 - $710 Base 7/10 BGS 9.5/10 - $880 Based on those, an ungraded dual relic /10 would probably be close to $600. Is there something else in the $200-300 range that can be added in to make up the difference? Their reply: Hello, Thank you for your response. Unfortunately we do not agree on the value of this card being $600.00. We do have this priced at the $850.00. We will not be adding additional cards to this offer. If rejected we will have to replace the card with completely random cards for equal value. Please advise what you would like to do. Best regards, Tyler Customer Service Representative So I replied back essentially saying I will not take either, they are basically just picking arbitrary numbers for their comps, I want this escalated and the whole point is to get a card I can sell to buy a Brady auto (or give me some high-end Tatis for the PC which I assume they don't have) __________________ Looking for Manny Machado 2022 & 2023 Definitive 1/1s

09-26-2019, 12:31 PM	#2
redsoxking94 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 380	I wouldn't trust topps, they more than likely send you Clint Frazier and Kevin Ziomek autos.

09-26-2019, 12:39 PM	#3
JustinTime42 Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 67	Knowing Topps they will send you a $2 auto as replacement

09-26-2019, 12:42 PM	#4
cspaced25 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 1,307	IF they would let you choose between a few names then I’d consider a replacement. But if they are just going to send out something they think is an acceptable replacement, absolutely not!!!

09-26-2019, 12:49 PM	#5
TheWrightStuff Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 6,831 Nathan104	Call and speak with someone. Ask them what value they would place on the card for a substitution. They will probably have to send you multiple cards even of top players like Trout to equal the value.

09-27-2019, 11:21 AM	#7
bavariancream Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,655 bavariancream	Agree with other posts.. find out who/what you will get specifically, because that card would have been a monster. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-29-2020, 01:41 PM	#21
LC2nine10 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 2,835	Escalted to what? They should offer you more, but i doubt much. They have almost 0 incentive to. I hope you do get something cool to sell.

01-29-2020, 01:42 PM	#22
jusdukky Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,106	Based on your latest exchange with them it sounds like you will be getting completely random cards of their choice. That really sucks for you!! Just not right at all.

01-29-2020, 01:45 PM	#23
baseballbunez Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,462	There is nothing to escalate to, and you will not win in negotiations for a replacement. They're covered and can legitimately send you whatever they choose as a replacement

01-29-2020, 01:51 PM	#24
TheWrightStuff Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 6,831 Nathan104	File a complaint with the better business bureau. It wont do much but do it anyways. I still don't see how it is legal for Topps to give out IOU's and then not fulfill it. I decided two years ago to never redeem another redemption. IF I pull one Ill sell it even if its a card I want. Topps will try and screw us any chance they get.

01-29-2020, 02:13 PM	#25
Bcwcardz Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: West coast Posts: 1,395	I would just take the Trout and call it a day. Topps continually screws us collectors but they have a damn monopoly so we have no choice. They know people keep buying regardless of their customer service. Why would they change? They never have the intention of having these cards signed in the first place. It’s fraudulent in my opinion but you probably can’t prove it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk