eBay user VOLIMUS -- you be the judge

[JMPKCP]

Originally Posted by deadwards24

I began this thread (as I do with every other one) with the intent to be as objective as possible. Here is what I conclude.

I truly believe OP was trying to give the seller a way out. I can honestly say that if I had been the buyer in this situation I probly would not have seen the damage. The only reason I was able to see it was because it was pointed out. I know if I had received this card I would be asking questions also. This HAS to be disclosed in the description. The other ten pictures shows intent by the seller. They are all perfect with all of the card and case showing. The cropped picture is done in a way to take ur attention away from the left corner. If seller had completely taken the picture without left corner every buyer would instantly start asking questions. Can I get a full scan? Why is left corner out of pic? Therefore drawing more attention to something he is trying to hide. This is why I feel the seller had no issue losing 100 or so on a card he "predicts" will go up in value. There's just too many issues with this sale. The only thing I think OP could have done different was go ahead and pay after the seller declined his offer to cancel the first time. But again if I had been in the buyers position I may have acted the same. Good luck.

Really appreciate your honest and objective opinion. It's refreshing to see someone who doesn't have a vendetta against me like wheeler or cruiserdaddy7 actually using common sense to see how clear this situation is.

[JMPKCP]

Originally Posted by Mikegioseffi

Not sure how the message above makes him look bad
He was saying he was not planning to pay because as his earlier messages stated , he knew the seller got screwed by the glitch and didn't want to take advantage.

I'd be pissed if I got a card in a cracked case. It does affect the resale value. Plain and simple. And honestly if this was almost any other Op on here then many would be singing a different tune in this thread. However since JMP has managed to piss so many of you guys off , most of these posts are just useless words trying to make him look like a bad guy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't always agree with JMP or many of his posts but at some point can we just look past him and actually comment about what happened.

There is no way any of you guys would get a card with clear damage to the bgs holder, and that has been cropped unlike every pother photo from the same seller and not be pissed about it.
This is a joke

Thank you for your support. Just wanted to say that as an exit to this thread. I'll only be back if the seller ends up not refunding me or causing some other problem. Appreciate everyone else's input...has taught me to be a bit more clear when talking with sellers.

[jlzinck]

I have nothing to say other than......

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/o...-pictures.html

[kevinh1919]

Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Yes, I make up 24 of the 69 posts in this thread because it's my thread and I'm responding to questions and providing pictures and explanations, etc. Surprised I don't make up more than half of the posts.

I didn't chew them up...wheeler is one of the ones I referred to in the OP about people who follow me just to bash me. He's not actually saying anything constructive, he's questioning things that have already been addressed, etc. In other words just stirring up $&@#.

You've made it more than clear that you feel the seller was purposely being dishonest. I took the volume of your posts as showing your "passion" for the subject and wondered why you still protect the seller's BO identity.

Respectfully...

[JMPKCP]

Originally Posted by kevinh1919

You've made it more than clear that you feel the seller was purposely being dishonest. I took the volume of your posts as showing your "passion" for the subject and wondered why you still protect the seller's BO identity.

Respectfully...

Came back to clear this up -- Oh, I don't know his BO identity. I know his real name and address but I'm not about to post that. I'd post his BO name if I knew it.

[shrevecity]

Reholdering through Beckett would not have cost much and the price should have still made it profitable.

[kevinh1919]

Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Came back to clear this up -- Oh, I don't know his BO identity. I know his real name and address but I'm not about to post that. I'd post his BO name if I knew it.

I see, said the blind man.

Thanks!

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

Oh JM do not flatter yourself. You post everywhere. If you think I follow you around you are insane. I commented in a thread last week about you giving the guy a hard time for putting it in the wrong section. Before that I can only remember the PR thread.

Quick question though in this thread.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...tion-live.html

Originally Posted by JMPKCP

And yet here you are bumping a six-month old thread of mine that had nothing to do with you...just looking to make controversy where there isn't any. Consider yourself permanently on my ignore list.

I see Houdini edited that thread to say fair question. Did you ask for my post to be deleted in it?

It was a legit question that you did not answer. Here is what I think.

I think you filed a SNAD (Significantly Not As Described)on a redemption card. I also think that shows your pattern of buyers remorse. Which is the essence of my only complaint. I never said you did not deserve refund but I did say I thought you had buyers remorse and played the game knowing you could return it.

So did you or did you not file a BS SNAD on a redemption card. We all know there is no way a redemption card can be not as described.

[mikecala98]

I have work to do today, why does a thread like this need to start now.

[Ray27Ray52]

These are the days of our BO lives. Quite a page turner we got going here.

[AlabamaSlamma]

-Seller tries to pull a fast one on the OP by not disclosing the slab dings and posting what would appear to be cropped scans with the auction.
-Karma bites seller in the ass when eBay bleep blorps into a shut down, allowing OP to win the card for well below market value.

I understand OP was peeved when the card was in hand, but the full refund route seems rather scorched earth and throws me a bit. Looks like the OP does a fair amount of grading on his own, so why not keep it, pay a few extra shekels to reslab it in a subsequent submission, and move on? You're still in the card for a fantastic price and karma still has her teeth firmly locked on the seller's junk.

As for the initial back and forth, it's...odd.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by AlabamaSlamma

-Seller tries to pull a fast one on the OP by not disclosing the slab dings and posting what would appear to be cropped scans with the auction.
-Karma bites seller in the ass when eBay bleep blorps into a shut down, allowing OP to win the card for well below market value.

I understand OP was peeved when the card was in hand, but the full refund route seems rather scorched earth and throws me a bit. Looks like the OP does a fair amount of grading on his own, so why not keep it, pay a few extra shekels to reslab it in a subsequent submission, and move on? You're still in the card for a fantastic price and karma still has her teeth firmly locked on the seller's junk.

As for the initial back and forth, it's...odd.

OP won't reslab because he had buyers remorse. Does anyone remember him bragging about this "steal", and even creating the eBay downtime steal thread?

OP has shown himself to waver time and time again. This is another prime example. The communications before receipt of the item show that very clearly.

[chezball]

November 3rd - 8:00 P.M.
Dear volimus,
Fine, payment coming, even though I don't want the card.


You didn't want the card,the cracked case just made it easy for you to back out,which you have been known to do.

[JMPKCP]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

I see Houdini edited that thread to say fair question. Did you ask for my post to be deleted in it?

It was a legit question that you did not answer. Here is what I think.

I think you filed a SNAD (Significantly Not As Described)on a redemption card. I also think that shows your pattern of buyers remorse. Which is the essence of my only complaint. I never said you did not deserve refund but I did say I thought you had buyers remorse and played the game knowing you could return it.

So did you or did you not file a BS SNAD on a redemption card. We all know there is no way a redemption card can be not as described.

Again, jackass, I did NOT have buyer's remorse. If I did, I wouldn't have paid for it. That's been said so many times in this thread -- catch a damn clue.

And no, I didn't file a SNAD on that six month old transaction that you dug up to witch hunt me.

[JMPKCP]

Originally Posted by chezball

November 3rd - 8:00 P.M.
Dear volimus,
Fine, payment coming, even though I don't want the card.


You didn't want the card,the cracked case just made it easy for you to back out,which you have been known to do.

Read the thread before posting. Already clarified that that line means "I don't want the card THIS WAY" Stop posting stuff out of context thinking you'll convince others of something that wasn't true.

I DID NOT SEE THE CASE WAS CRACKED UNTIL I GOT THE CARD IN HAND. Got it that time?

[FreeMan12406]

I've just made it through the first few posts, but two things:

1. The damage to the BGS case is clearly seen in the eBay auction. You couldn't miss that if you tried. Also when I opened the ended auction, it had the zoom functionality for the photo.
2. From the very beginning, it seemed like you wanted nothing to do with the purchase of this card.

I look forward to reading more of this.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Again, jackass, I did NOT have buyer's remorse. If I did, I wouldn't have paid for it. That's been said so many times in this thread -- catch a damn clue.

And no, I didn't file a SNAD on that six month old transaction that you dug up to witch hunt me.

Believe it or not I did not dig it up? It came to me. How would I magically know that card was returned(only difference you say voluntarily without opening a case) I will leave it alone unless that seller wants to comment in the thread. However there is some consistencies only he could comment on.

Carry on

[chezball]

Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Read the thread before posting. Already clarified that that line means "I don't want the card THIS WAY" Stop posting stuff out of context thinking you'll convince others of something that wasn't true.

I DID NOT SEE THE CASE WAS CRACKED UNTIL I GOT THE CARD IN HAND. Got it that time?

First off I read the all thread.Nothing is out of context.Nov. 3rd you didn't want the card,Nov. 9th you saw the card was damaged.
Nov. 3rd you didn't want the card,"THIS WAY" doesn't happen until the 9th of Nov.

[KevJo]

So my take after reading everything, a simple take it is!

That card was going back whether it was received mint, damaged or any other way!

Kevin

[mikecala98]

Bid retractions (6 months): 21

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

Believe it or not I did not dig it up? It came to me. How would I magically know that card was returned(only difference you say voluntarily without opening a case) I will leave it alone unless that seller wants to comment in the thread. However there is some consistencies only he could comment on.

Carry on

I'd admire your restraint.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by mikecala98

Bid retractions (6 months): 21

Who has 21 retractions? The op?

Don't answer yet. Popcorn is still popping and I can't find a stick of butter.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by JMPKCP

Thank you for your support. Just wanted to say that as an exit to this thread. I'll only be back if the seller ends up not refunding me or causing some other problem. Appreciate everyone else's input...has taught me to be a bit more clear when talking with sellers.

You have made 3 posts since your supposed exit above. Flip flopping like a fish out of water.

So we have a Prospect Rush break you were in, backed out, then tried to get in another. Now we have a clear flip flop in this one. AND now a redemption card you returned well after? Interesting

[mikecala98]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Who has 21 retractions? The op?

Don't answer yet. Popcorn is still popping and I can't find a stick of butter.

It's not me. Use butter spray, works faster.

[cruiserdaddy7]

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...tion-live.html

I see a pattern forming. You hounded the board for info, then returned a freaking redemption card? This is absolutely absurd. Now, you create this thread which clearly shows the same type of buyers remorse and need to return purchases. Yikes.