Star 101 XRC Gaining Ground

[Jpayne7787]

Two questions, how much do you guys think is a fair price for a 6.5 with some banged up corners & I thought only BGS graded these MJ XRC? Was I misinformed or am I missing something here?

[6celtics33]

Steve Taft trained beckett and has no vested interest in the reprinting controversy. He helped the FBI spot what was going on and stop the owner of Star, Robert Levin from doing what he was doing. Of course, the Jordan 101 was never the issue of reprints by the company but I guess that doesn't matter. Don't let facts interrupt a good story on blowout right.

[6celtics33]

PSA graded early on and bowed out because they made some mistakes with the 85-86 type 2 cards. Then instead of wanting to learn something they just said "were done". That 101 is legit. The Jordan 101 wasn't the issue of the type 2s or Levin's 90s shop at home money grab.

[Bostonsports1]

Thats the only 101 graded by PSA, pretty cool if you ask me

[6celtics33]

What I wish and what I would almost give my left nut for is for all the haters to stop clicking on the threads just to comment that they don't like the threads. When I see a thread I don't like I move on to the ones I do like. If that's the move here though I'm going to start trolling every Wiggins thread and every new Panini badonkadonk $20,000 a box product, with freaking Leonardo Da Vinci game used art 1/1's and scream at everybody who likes the stuff how dumb I think they are.

TO EACH THEIR OWN PEOPLE! TRY THAT!

[Jpayne7787]

Originally Posted by Bostonsports1

Thats the only 101 graded by PSA, pretty cool if you ask me

Ah makes sense no wonder the price tag! That's a center piece to any collection that's for sure. What do you guys think is a reasonable price for the 6.5 on eBay right now?

[Bostonsports1]

Originally Posted by Jpayne7787

Ah makes sense no wonder the price tag! That's a center piece to any collection that's for sure. What do you guys think is a reasonable price for the 6.5 on eBay right now?

Depends on the subs, but maybe 2k-2.5k?

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

These threads make me cringe too. How is it that after almost 8 years of grading that there are less than 500 total copies in the only pop report of the only company that grades the card of Jordan's 101 if there are so many "good reprints" Is there some maniacal genius sitting on hordes of them just waiting on the right time to cash in? You people's logic baffles me. The same guy bought both 8.5's for roughly $12,000 each. Those were record prices for 8.5s. Doesn't mean the next 8.5 will sell that high, maybe it will sell for more.

Stop traffic... I was offered $15,000 recently by a member on here for my 8.5 and I took about 30 seconds before I said no thanks. Call me a liar, call it recycling whatever you guys want but those sales were legit.

What sucks is everytime there is a star thread, people that have no interest, no education, no information on the truth get on here and spout out nonsense. The tide is turning as evidenced by the prices. Fear will not keep these things down forever. Jordan is leading the way. The other rookies will follow. The era is too strong. The cards are too rare.

Have the member admit to this. Hope it's a well known one. 15k for an 8.5, no way.

[Bostonsports1]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Have the member admit to this. Hope it's a well known one. 15k for an 8.5, no way.

Tell him to PM me if real lol

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Have the member admit to this. Hope it's a well known one. 15k for an 8.5, no way.

Lol... this guy

I own the best 8.5 to ever exist on the planet. 2 already sold for $12,000. Why no way on $15,000??

Is that too antagonistic for you? Have I not "been around" long enough to have credibility here?

Keep peddling your commons lots buddy. Don't talk to me about what is and isn't possible with that card. Basically calling me a liar. You got some nerve on you pingbling.

[6celtics33]

I'd be happy to have houdini or iluvfish scroll through my inbox and confirm it if they would do that. But I'm not outing another member.

[Bostonsports1]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Lol... this guy

I own the best 8.5 to ever exist on the planet. 2 already sold for $12,000. Why no way on $15,000??

Is that too antagonistic for you? Have I not "been around" long enough to have credibility here?

Keep peddling your commons lots buddy. Don't talk to me about what is and isn't possible with that card. Basically calling me a liar. You got some nerve on you pingbling.

What subs you got?

[6celtics33]

8 9.5 9.5 10 with minimal to no tilt at all. I've shown it before on here.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Lol... this guy

I own the best 8.5 to ever exist on the planet. 2 already sold for $12,000. Why no way on $15,000??

Is that too antagonistic for you? Have I not "been around" long enough to have credibility here?

Keep peddling your commons lots buddy. Don't talk to me about what is and isn't possible with that card. Basically calling me a liar. You got some nerve on you pingbling.

You're a joke. I'm quite fine with my collection, thanks though. Yes I said you're a liar. Have the credible member come forward and I'll apologize. Where are the 12k sales?

[pingbling23]

FYI, I bought my Bgs 8 a couple of years ago for $1500, I would love it to be worth 10k. But I'm going to call bs when I see it.

[6celtics33]

12k sales on ebay, 2 of them but I'm sure you'll say those are lies too. I'm not bothering the member to out his business. Let's have houdini look at my inbox and confirm. Why can't we do that?

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

FYI, I bought my Bgs 8 a couple of years ago for $1500, I would love it to be worth 10k. But I'm going to call bs when I see it.

It's not worth 10k but it's worth a lot more than $1500. Instead of being happy about that, you want to argue over it. That's odd but yeah I'm the joke.

[sniperx]

Thanks starman aka nameanking for starting this TROLL thread. See the drama you created?

[Bostonsports1]

I actually chatted to one of the sellers on the one that sold for 12k even, it's legit.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

It's not worth 10k but it's worth a lot more than $1500. Instead of being happy about that, you want to argue over it. That's odd but yeah I'm the joke.

It's around 4-4500 right now, I follow the market. That's how I know the 8.5 isn't a 15k card. No need to get your panties in a bunch and put down my collection that you probably haven't seen. We need more transparency in this hobby, I'm sure the member won't mind to come forward if you ask them.

[BestRCs]

Originally Posted by Bostonsports1

Care to elaborate?

I recall a thread on here noting that Beckett graded a Ewing XRC and it was on sale on pwcc and a collector noticed it was fake and pwcc ended up pulling it from auction after it was reported. beckett apparently graded a fake.

[6celtics33]

It's just weird. Most cards you know, they depreciate weeks after release and continue on a downward spiral for years. Now Curry, and some random examples are the exception to the rule but now we have Jordan stuff, Jordan of all people, his rookie card, with a print run of 3000-4000 sets, essentially rarer than the topps tiffany baseball rookies but only with the added rarity of the fact that there is no equivalent to the regular topps card available either of the most popular athlete of all time. His extremely rare rookie card is going up in value and people are like WHATTT? NO way! I smell something fishy! It can't be.

Is that not weird? The reaction to this? The fleer is going up and it's produced at an exponential rate of the star. Fleer stickers in 9.5 have been going for almost $4,000 lately and they are basically a rookie insert card which actually amounts to a 3rd year insert card. Everyone is ok with those prices.

[Bostonsports1]

Originally Posted by BestRCs

I recall a thread on here noting that Beckett graded a Ewing XRC and it was on sale on pwcc and a collector noticed it was fake and pwcc ended up pulling it from auction after it was reported. beckett apparently graded a fake.

Interesting, I don't know enough about the Ewings to comment further, but sucks either way. Like I said before, I think this keeps prices lower.

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by BestRCs

I recall a thread on here noting that Beckett graded a Ewing XRC and it was on sale on pwcc and a collector noticed it was fake and pwcc ended up pulling it from auction after it was reported. beckett apparently graded a fake.

That was a type 2 from the 85-86 set, a completely different issue, they did make that mistake, I was one of the people that noticed it, and Brent being the upstanding person that he is believed me and a few others and took it down. If I showed you an original Ewing and a type 2 side by side you would immediately notice the difference. I'm sure it was a rare honest mistake. Just like when they damaged the guy's reholder who was on here yesterday and just like when they mislabel something, and just like when the cases come back already chipped, or people's mail gets stolen with cards in it. Stuff happens. It's crazy I agree. But if it was the norm, we'd all stop dealing with this stuff.

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

It's around 4-4500 right now, I follow the market. That's how I know the 8.5 isn't a 15k card. No need to get your panties in a bunch and put down my collection that you probably haven't seen. We need more transparency in this hobby, I'm sure the member won't mind to come forward if you ask them.

What's transparency about what is going on if when I offer it you just call me a liar?? And don't tell me not to get my panties in a bunch. I have NEVER shilled, wronged, not sent an item, screwed anybody over on paypal, etc. in my life. Reputation is a big deal in this hobby. I won't have you putting down my word when you have no reason to doubt it.