WTF?!

deemsterz33 · 03-30-2016, 02:40 PM

1986 Fleer Michael Jordan PSA Rookie Card NM MT 8 | eBay

jifengjeff · 03-30-2016, 02:52 PM

Seriously？

exoticprince · 03-30-2016, 03:11 PM

Nothing in that listing makes sense. Even the psa label is fake and the card is a reprint. I hope someone didn't get screwed given the eye appeal and centering look better than an 8 cuz the card is a fake in any case

exoticprince · 03-30-2016, 03:58 PM

And now looks this just created a new benchmark for some sellers lol

1986 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan Rookie RC PSA 8 NM MT | eBay

molarson23 · 03-30-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by exoticprince

Nothing in that listing makes sense. Even the psa label is fake and the card is a reprint. I hope someone didn't get screwed given the eye appeal and centering look better than an 8 cuz the card is a fake in any case

People keep saying this about PSA labels... how can you tell?

deemsterz33 · 03-30-2016, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by molarson23

People keep saying this about PSA labels... how can you tell?

It just looks like an old PSA label to me. I'm also curious as to why you think it's fake?

tristan20 · 03-30-2016, 08:34 PM

LOL! And who believes that sale?

MJGOAT23 · 03-30-2016, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by exoticprince

And now looks this just created a new benchmark for some sellers lol

1986 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan Rookie RC PSA 8 NM MT | eBay

Unbelievable…

I was watching the one in the original post, I've never seen the bottom border of yellow and black be misaligned on a fake but there's definitely something screwy about that auction for sure.

exoticprince · 03-31-2016, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by deemsterz33

It just looks like an old PSA label to me. I'm also curious as to why you think it's fake?

Apologies what I meant was the psa label was taken from another card and then slabbed in with a reprint. The psa label was 100% not assigned to that card cuz that card is a reprint

exoticprince · 03-31-2016, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MJGOAT23

Unbelievable…

I was watching the one in the original post, I've never seen the bottom border of yellow and black be misaligned on a fake but there's definitely something screwy about that auction for sure.

Look at the fleer logo on the front, specifically focussing on the yellow areas. You'll see it

deemsterz33 · 03-31-2016, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by exoticprince

Look at the fleer logo on the front, specifically focussing on the yellow areas. You'll see it

Definitely hard to tell with such a low quality photo. I'm more interested in the fake label claims. Any leads or thoughts on that?

BigRhino · 03-31-2016, 07:14 AM

Are you sure that it is a reprint? Or are you saying that its fake?

Reprint has a different looking back Michael Jordan 1996 97 Fleer Decade of Excellence RC Reprint PSA 10 Gem Mint | eBay

XARZY · 03-31-2016, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRhino

Are you sure that it is a reprint? Or are you saying that its fake?

Reprint has a different looking back Michael Jordan 1996 97 Fleer Decade of Excellence RC Reprint PSA 10 Gem Mint | eBay

You linked a decade of excellence, that's completely different. The card in the op is meant to fool you into thinking is an original. The card you posted states its not

celtics86 · 03-31-2016, 12:09 PM

My guess is a few dealers recognized this as a good PSA 10 candidate once the minor white on the corners magically disappears. PSA is rolling out some crap Jordan 10's lately.

BigRhino · 03-31-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XARZY

You linked a decade of excellence, that's completely different. The card in the op is meant to fool you into thinking is an original. The card you posted states its not

Forgive my ignorance. So they released reprints that say 1986 on them? That's ridiculous

doobypenguin · 03-31-2016, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRhino

Forgive my ignorance. So they released reprints that say 1986 on them? That's ridiculous

no they say 1996 on the back.

molarson23 · 03-31-2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by exoticprince

Look at the fleer logo on the front, specifically focussing on the yellow areas. You'll see it

I agree the yellow triangle isn't as dark as it should be.... but could just be the camera/pic quality... unless in hand would be hard to tell if this one specifically is a fake

MJGOAT23 · 03-31-2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by celtics86

My guess is a few dealers recognized this as a good PSA 10 candidate once the minor white on the corners magically disappears. PSA is rolling out some crap Jordan 10's lately.

Tons of whitening on this thing. corners, top edge, the bottom left corner isnt even sharp. The centering really helps but i've seen and owned much sharper 8's.

There are plenty of 9's that would be better "10 candidates" than this POS for 4600+!!!!

Supersuper · 03-31-2016, 03:07 PM

shill????? that's first world came out of my mind......

BigRhino · 03-31-2016, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by doobypenguin

no they say 1996 on the back.

But the one in the OP says 1986 on the back.... so is it a reprint or not?

exoticprince · 03-31-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRhino

But the one in the OP says 1986 on the back.... so is it a reprint or not?

The point that had me skeptical was the fleer logo. The real has the arrow with a darker shade of yellow to the rest as in pic 1 below. Pic 2 is from a typical reprint where the arrow lacks this darker shade. As one other guy mentioned it may just be the pic quality / lighting but I would never touch this listing

cedar rapids · 03-31-2016, 10:48 PM

ive been studying authentic Jordan rookies for quite some time, and I wouldn't touch this one with a 10 foot pole. I feel absolutely terrible for whoever wasted their money on this. This person should go to jail for scamming out 5 grand if it is fake which in my eye test it is fake. I could be wrong because the back looks legit, the front doesn't add up.

pejc300 · 03-31-2016, 11:11 PM

Just for the record, I've owned many MJ rookie cards and currently have 3 complete sets of 86-87 fleer. Every time I try to take a photo with the flash on and in many certain "lights" the orange part of the fleer tag comes out yellow. I think that is what happened here. As for the price...well, I think we all know that wasn't real.

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cedar rapids Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Iowa Posts: 441 hawkeyedenity	ive been studying authentic Jordan rookies for quite some time, and I wouldn't touch this one with a 10 foot pole. I feel absolutely terrible for whoever wasted their money on this. This person should go to jail for scamming out 5 grand if it is fake which in my eye test it is fake. I could be wrong because the back looks legit, the front doesn't add up. Last edited by cedar rapids; 03-31-2016 at 10:51 PM.

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exoticprince Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,309	Nothing in that listing makes sense. Even the psa label is fake and the card is a reprint. I hope someone didn't get screwed given the eye appeal and centering look better than an 8 cuz the card is a fake in any case

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exoticprince Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,309	And now looks this just created a new benchmark for some sellers lol 1986 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan Rookie RC PSA 8 NM MT \| eBay

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tristan20 Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 12,906	LOL! And who believes that sale?

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celtics86 Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 185	My guess is a few dealers recognized this as a good PSA 10 candidate once the minor white on the corners magically disappears. PSA is rolling out some crap Jordan 10's lately.

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Supersuper Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 797	shill????? that's first world came out of my mind......

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pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,788	Just for the record, I've owned many MJ rookie cards and currently have 3 complete sets of 86-87 fleer. Every time I try to take a photo with the flash on and in many certain "lights" the orange part of the fleer tag comes out yellow. I think that is what happened here. As for the price...well, I think we all know that wasn't real.