The Official #2 Raptors vs. #3 Heat - Round 2 Thread

[DalliLlama11]

Originally Posted by Chrisp253

Ive been really impressed with their other rookie josh richardson. Looks like a stud.

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For the most part him and Winslow have been a top rookie duo. Both are playing poorly this series though.

[Zacy87]

Damn theres a lot of hate for the raps and JV lol. It's been an ugly series but it's the playoffs. Wade has been the only constant in this series so far. If he doesnt get more help it might end in 5 or 6.

[Orangejello727]

Anyone see d wade taking shots during the Canadian national anthem and not pay respect? Should be fined and suspended for that. Total douche move

[DalliLlama11]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Anyone see d wade taking shots during the Canadian national anthem and not pay respect? Should be fined and suspended for that. Total douche move

Lol what a joke. Yes it was disrespectful and he maybe should be fined. But suspended? That's one of the stupidest things I've read here, and that is saying something.

[DalliLlama11]

Originally Posted by Zacy87

Damn theres a lot of hate for the raps and JV lol. It's been an ugly series but it's the playoffs. Wade has been the only constant in this series so far. If he doesnt get more help it might end in 5 or 6.

I think its because the publicity hes getting now. Hes a pretty good player. But for a bigman he plays so little. He showed he can dominate yet he flops like a guard and whips head back for no teason; and constantly pushes on rebounds etc. Now that he is getting more TV time, people are seeing it more.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Anyone see d wade taking shots during the Canadian national anthem and not pay respect? Should be fined and suspended for that. Total douche move

100% agree on a fine, and a heavy one too. Had that been a Canadian player doing that during the Star Spangled Banner, all hell would break lose. I honestly think a $100,000 fine would be a good place to start.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by DalliLlama11

Lol what a joke. Yes it was disrespectful and he maybe should be fined. But suspended? That's one of the stupidest things I've read here, and that is saying something.

It's not a joke. In 1996 Mohammed Abdul rouf or whatever did the same thing and was suspended 1 game for it. You feel stupid as your comment now?

[IamRalpho]

So Whiteside looked like he was gonna have a tear, but hes day to day.
Jonas looked like it was a slight sprain, and now hes out for the series.

Congrats Heat

[Zacy87]

Originally Posted by DalliLlama11

I think its because the publicity hes getting now. Hes a pretty good player. But for a bigman he plays so little. He showed he can dominate yet he flops like a guard and whips head back for no teason; and constantly pushes on rebounds etc. Now that he is getting more TV time, people are seeing it more.

I understand you're a heat fan but lets be real. JV has bullied Whiteside this series so far and Whiteside is an elite rim defender. He does embellish contact way to much but the refs see that and he rarely gets the calls.

Wade should be fined and if it was regular season, suspended. Classless move and something i wouldnt expect from a guy like him who I've considered to be a class act on and off the court.

[DalliLlama11]

Originally Posted by Zacy87

I understand you're a heat fan but lets be real. JV has bullied Whiteside this series so far and Whiteside is an elite rim defender. He does embellish contact way to much but the refs see that and he rarely gets the calls.

Wade should be fined and if it was regular season, suspended. Classless move and something i wouldnt expect from a guy like him who I've considered to be a class act on and off the court.

Did you not see the part where I said he can dominate? He has owned Whiteside all series. Albeit Hassan has been playing st 70% (his words), he still is working Hassan over. And a fine I can understand. No way does it justify a suspension. Players always disrespect each other and people intentionally, they wont get suspended. Yet Wade does it for finishing his "ritual" and all hell breaks loose. Is the world really this soft now? I wouldn't be upset if Wiggins or Cory or whoever kept shooting during our anthem. Most people appreciate the message the anthems provide. That doesn't mean they enjoy waiting and listening for it. When I did sports, I couldn't stand waiting for the game to begin because of the anthem. I would hear it 5 times a week and would be itching to play the game. Its an obvious overreaction, but people are mentally weak these days. If we give suspensions over literally warming up at a bad time, every single flagrant deserves multiple games for unnecessary contact and potentially harming people. And if he deserves it during regular season, he deserves it now..not really sticking to your guns if you allow the moment to alter your mindset.

[codered]

Originally Posted by DalliLlama11

Did you not see the part where I said he can dominate? He has owned Whiteside all series. Albeit Hassan has been playing st 70% (his words), he still is working Hassan over. And a fine I can understand. No way does it justify a suspension. Players always disrespect each other and people intentionally, they wont get suspended. Yet Wade does it for finishing his "ritual" and all hell breaks loose. Is the world really this soft now? I wouldn't be upset if Wiggins or Cory or whoever kept shooting during our anthem. Most people appreciate the message the anthems provide. That doesn't mean they enjoy waiting and listening for it. When I did sports, I couldn't stand waiting for the game to begin because of the anthem. I would hear it 5 times a week and would be itching to play the game. Its an obvious overreaction, but people are mentally weak these days. If we give suspensions over literally warming up at a bad time, every single flagrant deserves multiple games for unnecessary contact and potentially harming people. And if he deserves it during regular season, he deserves it now..not really sticking to your guns if you allow the moment to alter your mindset.

What a joke!! Very classless move by wade. Americans were pissed in 96 when Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, an American born, converted Muslim, refused to stand for the national anthem. There was an absolute outrage! He was suspended and told that if he did it again, he faced the possibility of being kicked out of the league! I remember for about a month after SC and all the other sports shows would show him facing away from the flag during the anthem to continue to show American outrage towards the story!

[DalliLlama11]

Originally Posted by codered

What a joke!! Very classless move by wade. Americans were pissed in 96 when Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, an American born, converted Muslim, refused to stand for the national anthem. There was an absolute outrage! He was suspended and told that if he did it again, he faced the possibility of being kicked out of the league! I remember for about a month after SC and all the other sports shows would show him facing away from the flag during the anthem to continue to show American outrage towards the story!

Yes it was classless and very good assumption. In reaponse to Abdul I wasnt outraged by it. It didnt bother me one bit. He can do what he chooses to do as long as it doesnt harm others. And Sc is a news shows that generates and reports drama, so of course they did. Doesnt make it any less soft. Id have no problem with non americans not standing for our anthem. What is the point of making someone like say Bogut who probably wasnt really in America listen to our anthem. He more than likely didnt and still may not care. And lets not act like we only care because it affects us. How did those same Canadians complaining now react to Abdul? They probably didnt really care because it didnt affect them. Its human nature. Its amazing how much blows up because Wade was finishing his pregame ritual and is suspicious.

I wont comment back on this topic because itll be a pointless battle. It was classless a mistake, I doubt he meant any harm. A fine is understandable, a suspension would be ridiculous.

[smalltown]

Wade lost all my respect. It's all be said. It was both classless and disrespectful.

[IronMonkey415]

Force him to come out there and sing the national athlete.

[Cervantes]

Brandon Roy, anyone?

[Hegotgame15]

Originally Posted by IronMonkey415

Force him to come out there and sing the national athlete.

That would be funny and the punishment fits the crime!

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by codered

What a joke!! Very classless move by wade. Americans were pissed in 96 when Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, an American born, converted Muslim, refused to stand for the national anthem. There was an absolute outrage! He was suspended and told that if he did it again, he faced the possibility of being kicked out of the league! I remember for about a month after SC and all the other sports shows would show him facing away from the flag during the anthem to continue to show American outrage towards the story!

Americans also had stronger moral values 20 years ago. It's a different age. I didn't see what happened but if he was legit being disrespectful, fine him and move on.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Anyone see d wade taking shots during the Canadian national anthem and not pay respect? Should be fined and suspended for that. Total douche move

really dude?

[miamitrev2]

pure comedy in this thread. great entertainment

[raps2spurs]

Yea, no way Wade should be suspended. I didn't like what he did but it's getting blown up way too much.

Sucks that Jonas is out for the series since he's been a beast and the way he was playing I think the Raptors would've finished this in 6 but I think it will likely go 7 games unless Lowry can beast like that again.

It's been a very entertaining and tight series and should be the rest of the way.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by trixstar

really dude?

Players have been suspended for not following the code of conduct prior to this stunt that wade pulled. Are you suggesting that Wade is above the NBA code of conduct and doesn't not have to adhere to the rules??

Since you don't know how it works, let me tell you. If the team (raps) feel that it was worth the concern, they must put a contention in front of the NBA office as an official complaint. At which time, the NBA will investigate and possibly fine and suspend the player. If the Raps don't contest it, then the league will not what it wants, usually just moving past it.

Just incase you didn't know the players code of conduct..
NBA.com - PLAYER/TEAM CONDUCT AND DRESS

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1) Each player when introduced, prior to the game, must be uniformly dressed.
(2) Players, coaches and trainers are to stand and line up in a dignified posture along the sidelines or on the foul line during the playing of the National Anthem.
(3) Coaches and assistant coaches must wear a sport coat or suit coat.
(4) While playing, players must keep their uniform shirts tucked into their pants, and no T-shirts are allowed.
(5) The only article bearing a commercial 'logo' which can be worn by players is their shoes.

Maybe they should change rule 2 because rule 5 will be changing.

[DalliLlama11]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Players have been suspended for not following the code of conduct prior to this stunt that wade pulled. Are you suggesting that Wade is above the NBA code of conduct and doesn't not have to adhere to the rules??

Since you don't know how it works, let me tell you. If the team (raps) feel that it was worth the concern, they must put a contention in front of the NBA office as an official complaint. At which time, the NBA will investigate and possibly fine and suspend the player. If the Raps don't contest it, then the league will not what it wants, usually just moving past it.

Just incase you didn't know the players code of conduct..
NBA.com - PLAYER/TEAM CONDUCT AND DRESS

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Maybe they should change rule 2 because rule 5 will be changing.

It says The National Anthem right? It doesnt say Canada's or "all national anthems". That is open to interpretation there. Wade could use that right there to fight it...and Im not sure the Raptors or their management is as soft as you are mentally and emotionally. They know it was a mistake and unintentional. They wont get their whale tail stuck like you seem to.

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

It's not a joke. In 1996 Mohammed Abdul rouf or whatever did the same thing and was suspended 1 game for it. You feel stupid as your comment now?

It was dumb there too. Just because the NBA did something stupid doesnt mean its smart. Great point that contributed nothing. The NBa does a lottery for the draft, doesnt mean thats smart either..

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by DalliLlama11

It says The National Anthem right? It doesnt say Canada's or "all national anthems". That is open to interpretation there. Wade could use that right there to fight it...and Im not sure the Raptors or their management is as soft as you are mentally and emotionally. They know it was a mistake and unintentional. They wont get their whale tail stuck like you seem to.



It was dumb there too. Just because the NBA did something stupid doesnt mean its smart. Great point that contributed nothing. The NBa does a lottery for the draft, doesnt mean thats smart either..

umm okay. So a team from Canada and a team from the US are playing. Exactly what 2 national anthem do you think should be played since its up for interpretation? lol. Latvia and Mongolia? This is no the first time these two teams have played.

I have no clue what you are trying to say? That following the code of conduct is stupid? That players shouldn't have to pay respect for the national anthem? I don't understand your logic? That somehow Im "soft" because I respect my nation and that of the opposing team? OOKay then. I can't argue the logic behind "It doesn't matter, standing up for the national anthem is being soft".

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by DalliLlama11

Great point that contributed nothing.

That should be the title to his autobiography.

Great points that contribut nothing: the OJ story

[jcardstore]

It is absolutely disrespectful what Wade did, whether he did it intentionally or not doesn't make it not disrespectful.

Saying he should be suspended is a joke and comparing it to what Abdul-Rauf did is an even bigger joke.

Fine him 50k and move on