For the most part are dealers at nationals fair with their prices?

mike1498 · 06-20-2016, 09:37 AM

This is going to be my first time going and was wondering is for the most part the dealers prices fair or are they crazy high since tables are real expensive?

rrd111 · 06-20-2016, 09:45 AM

I haven't been to one yet either but my guess is that dealers get better with pricing towards the end of the week as they don't want to take stuff home with them..just a guess

krosscdm · 06-20-2016, 10:57 AM

It all depends on what you're looking for, I went to the national last year and found some good deals. There's a ton of vintage, some newer stuff, etc. The newer boxes are mostly set at a fixed price so don't expect huge deals on new unopened wax, but some might have some older boxes you could get deals on.

Well worth the visit, I'd walk a little before jumping into buying at the first dealer you see. I got some really nice deals from a guy on a bunch of refractors but then he wouldn't budge on some museum base that he wanted a few dollars a piece for cards. Some guys have nickel boxes, dime boxes, quarter boxes, dollar, etc. Most guys will work with you on pricing but it can look over priced depending on what you're searching for. Different sellers for different appetites

ND3 · 06-20-2016, 10:59 AM

Wax deals will be good, wrapper redemption programs should be solid, and you will see some really cool stuff in showcases.

Prices will be ridiculous for most stuff. Happy Hunting!!

dacaptain37 · 06-20-2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ND3

Wax deals will be good, wrapper redemption programs should be solid, and you will see some really cool stuff in showcases.

Prices will be ridiculous for most stuff. Happy Hunting!!

i second this... but at the same time, if you know how to wheel and deal, you will get stuff you want. I am also one that does not mind paying a little extra on something if it is a PC card I want for my Peyton pc or top 100....but you are going to hear some crazy prices. Last year, what dealers were charging for Luck stuff was insane...and the more insane part was that people were still buying his stuff left and right.

wax will be the cheapest you ever see since there are so many companies competing with each other with wax.

Gmrson · 06-20-2016, 11:28 AM

The only crazy prices I've seen are some of the 1/1's or lower numbered HOF relics. The dealers pay a lot to be there and are there to sell. Sometimes brand new singles are priced high similar to the 1st ones on Ebay.

Skipscards · 06-20-2016, 03:40 PM

Prices are all over the place. Great deals to bad deals.

bdrr · 06-20-2016, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

This is going to be my first time going and was wondering is for the most part the dealers prices fair or are they crazy high since tables are real expensive?

Firstly, I appreciate that you understand just how expensive it is to set up at the National.

But what it really comes down to is how well you know the hobby and how lazy you are. If you just want to walk around, point at crazy cards, and ask prices - yeah, they're going to be through the roof. If you spend a little more time browsing - there are deals to be had everywhere.

CCSportsCards · 06-21-2016, 07:21 PM

Last year I found it difficult to work bulk deals but I bought plenty at dealers asking prices.

Bulk deals as in their total on 6 cards added up to $58. I couldn't get them to go $50 for example

notoriousrmb · 06-22-2016, 08:30 AM

High end cards were overpriced looking for that one sucker to buy.

Lower end cards had some great deals.

Tons of wax options, so shop around a bit.

Best deals are on the last days of the shows - dealers don't want to sell too cheap early on.

theblemishedone · 06-22-2016, 08:45 AM

All depends on what you are looking for.

To answer your question properly, yes there are plenty of great things to be had. Yes, people will overcharge on some items, but if you look at the big picture, everybody will be competing with each other, especially on newer stuff. Then again, it's all based on what you are willing to pay for something.

Check out or booth (360 and 261). We'll have a ton of stuff fairly priced and are always looking to buy also.

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Originally Posted by mike1498

This is going to be my first time going and was wondering is for the most part the dealers prices fair or are they crazy high since tables are real expensive?

chezball · 06-22-2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by theblemishedone

All depends on what you are looking for.

To answer your question properly, yes there are plenty of great things to be had. Yes, people will overcharge on some items, but if you look at the big picture, everybody will be competing with each other, especially on newer stuff. Then again, it's all based on what you are willing to pay for something.

Check out or booth (360 and 261). We'll have a ton of stuff fairly priced and are always looking to buy also.

Are you sharing the tables with justinstaff756 ?

theblemishedone · 06-22-2016, 09:50 AM

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Are you sharing the tables with justinstaff756 ?

Yes I am. See you there hopefully? There to help him primarily.

chezball · 06-22-2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by theblemishedone

Yes I am. See you there hopefully? There to help him primarily.

Nothing against you,but that table I won't be going near.

theblemishedone · 06-22-2016, 10:20 AM

No worries. Totally understand.

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Nothing against you,but that table I won't be going near.

Boo · 06-22-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Nothing against you,but that table I won't be going near.

Story please...

mj91534 · 06-22-2016, 10:43 AM

I am setting aside a certain amount of money for each area of what I want boxes, packs, and singles.

jlcherry2477 · 06-22-2016, 11:44 AM

I'll be set up at booth #2220 with David of DP Sports Cards, I'd like to think I have reasonable prices...refractors, serial #'ed, low-mid autos/gu's...come by and see us so I can put a name to some of these members I've seen on here for many years!

mj91534 · 06-22-2016, 12:07 PM

anyone have a feeling the dealers will be overpricing the WWII veteran autos from Goodwin Champs?

chezball · 06-22-2016, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jlcherry2477

I'll be set up at booth #2220 with David of DP Sports Cards, I'd like to think I have reasonable prices...refractors, serial #'ed, low-mid autos/gu's...come by and see us so I can put a name to some of these members I've seen on here for many years!

I'll be stopping by,discounts for lot buys? Say $100 or more.

chezball · 06-22-2016, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mj91534

anyone have a feeling the dealers will be overpricing the WWII veteran autos from Goodwin Champs?

Not sure but I love goodwin.

jlcherry2477 · 06-22-2016, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

I'll be stopping by,discounts for lot buys? Say $100 or more.

I'll probably be more firm on prices the first couple days, but will discount more towards the weekend. I'll have about 3-5k $3 each or 5 for $10 cards mostly and a couple showcases of mid-priced cards available...first Nationals, so really trying to get a feel for it to maybe set up next year as well....

chezball · 06-23-2016, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jlcherry2477

I'll probably be more firm on prices the first couple days, but will discount more towards the weekend. I'll have about 3-5k $3 each or 5 for $10 cards mostly and a couple showcases of mid-priced cards available...first Nationals, so really trying to get a feel for it to maybe set up next year as well....

Sounds good, will be stopping by.

jmarascojr · 06-23-2016, 07:45 AM

I go mainly for memorabilia and I found that the dealers were definitely flexible on pricing.

Mill Creek has been great in years past when I wanted to get some Ichiro based stuff.

You definitely will run into dealers who are obviously just there to show off what they have with no expectation to sell based on the pricing they have.
This honestly boggles my mind cause as it was shared above, it's not cheap to set up there.
But I guess you only have to find one sucker to make your weekend worth while.

eBay Sold Listings don't seem to matter either.
I was looking at a Ty Cobb signed check and asked what he wanted, he told me $x,xxx.
I offered a number based off of the last couple sold listings on eBay (an average, not the lowest) and he thought I was nuts.

Maybe I was in the wrong, but sold listings on eBay seem to be today's price guide.

ksemmel · 06-23-2016, 07:49 AM

Based off of every other show I have ever been at: 5-10% of dealers will be around ebay and the rest will be 15-20% over ebay. But that's just a guess.

I've never set up so I have no experience but I never understood why dealers charged over eBay. If you are receiving cash immediately and don't have to ship, you would think dealers would want to be reasonable with pricing.

06-20-2016, 09:37 AM	#1
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06-20-2016, 10:59 AM	#4
ND3 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: At the Brazilian BBQ Posts: 15,490 floridaguy72 nd3	Wax deals will be good, wrapper redemption programs should be solid, and you will see some really cool stuff in showcases. Prices will be ridiculous for most stuff. Happy Hunting!! __________________ *Maybe if I stick your head through that window over there you'll get unconfused. Give me the feckkin money. -- Nicky Santoro* myslabs.to/flordiaguy72

06-20-2016, 03:40 PM	#7
Skipscards Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In Tribute To The Great Ryno Posts: 30,163 jlankf2 jmp4	Prices are all over the place. Great deals to bad deals. __________________ Go Royals!! #RoyalsIn2015 <---It Happened!! #TEAMZinck Sometimes it is astounding that we are able to persist in a world so full of morons.

06-23-2016, 07:49 AM	#25
ksemmel Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: South Jersey Posts: 9,203 sjcards31 ksemmel	Based off of every other show I have ever been at: 5-10% of dealers will be around ebay and the rest will be 15-20% over ebay. But that's just a guess. I've never set up so I have no experience but I never understood why dealers charged over eBay. If you are receiving cash immediately and don't have to ship, you would think dealers would want to be reasonable with pricing. __________________ Not looking to trade unless my thread states so. My prices are valid for 24 hours after my last thread bump

06-20-2016, 09:45 AM	#2
rrd111 Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 982	I haven't been to one yet either but my guess is that dealers get better with pricing towards the end of the week as they don't want to take stuff home with them..just a guess

06-20-2016, 10:57 AM	#3
krosscdm Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 988	It all depends on what you're looking for, I went to the national last year and found some good deals. There's a ton of vintage, some newer stuff, etc. The newer boxes are mostly set at a fixed price so don't expect huge deals on new unopened wax, but some might have some older boxes you could get deals on. Well worth the visit, I'd walk a little before jumping into buying at the first dealer you see. I got some really nice deals from a guy on a bunch of refractors but then he wouldn't budge on some museum base that he wanted a few dollars a piece for cards. Some guys have nickel boxes, dime boxes, quarter boxes, dollar, etc. Most guys will work with you on pricing but it can look over priced depending on what you're searching for. Different sellers for different appetites

06-20-2016, 11:28 AM	#6
Gmrson Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Jackson, MI Posts: 3,995 bodnercards bodnercards	The only crazy prices I've seen are some of the 1/1's or lower numbered HOF relics. The dealers pay a lot to be there and are there to sell. Sometimes brand new singles are priced high similar to the 1st ones on Ebay.

06-21-2016, 07:21 PM	#9
CCSportsCards Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sioux Falls SD Posts: 3,313 CollectorsCorner	Last year I found it difficult to work bulk deals but I bought plenty at dealers asking prices. Bulk deals as in their total on 6 cards added up to $58. I couldn't get them to go $50 for example

06-22-2016, 08:30 AM	#10
notoriousrmb Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6,825	High end cards were overpriced looking for that one sucker to buy. Lower end cards had some great deals. Tons of wax options, so shop around a bit. Best deals are on the last days of the shows - dealers don't want to sell too cheap early on.

06-22-2016, 10:43 AM	#17
mj91534 Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Manalapan NJ Posts: 4,581	I am setting aside a certain amount of money for each area of what I want boxes, packs, and singles.

06-22-2016, 11:44 AM	#18
jlcherry2477 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,883 jlcherry2477 jlcherry2477	I'll be set up at booth #2220 with David of DP Sports Cards, I'd like to think I have reasonable prices...refractors, serial #'ed, low-mid autos/gu's...come by and see us so I can put a name to some of these members I've seen on here for many years!

06-22-2016, 12:07 PM	#19
mj91534 Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Manalapan NJ Posts: 4,581	anyone have a feeling the dealers will be overpricing the WWII veteran autos from Goodwin Champs?

06-23-2016, 07:45 AM	#24
jmarascojr Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,417 shooterjoe13	I go mainly for memorabilia and I found that the dealers were definitely flexible on pricing. Mill Creek has been great in years past when I wanted to get some Ichiro based stuff. You definitely will run into dealers who are obviously just there to show off what they have with no expectation to sell based on the pricing they have. This honestly boggles my mind cause as it was shared above, it's not cheap to set up there. But I guess you only have to find one sucker to make your weekend worth while. eBay Sold Listings don't seem to matter either. I was looking at a Ty Cobb signed check and asked what he wanted, he told me $x,xxx. I offered a number based off of the last couple sold listings on eBay (an average, not the lowest) and he thought I was nuts. Maybe I was in the wrong, but sold listings on eBay seem to be today's price guide.