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Old 07-14-2016, 01:55 PM   #251
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Yeah, you know, I think the compromise was pretty fair. I think the only thing that would have made it better was if they had dropped the prices by $5 since they were printing more. But I can't say I'm outraged over all of this. I just find it funny how people flipped out about it.
The online temper tantrums were hilarious to see.
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:57 PM   #252
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The online temper tantrums were hilarious to see.
Oh, on the one hand you have the people that were pissed about not getting the Puddin' Pack. Then you had people pissed when they announced they were going to print more of everything. Then they became mad because Aspen recanted and only printed more of the first two covers. It has been hilarious!
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Oh, on the one hand you have the people that were pissed about not getting the Puddin' Pack. Then you had people pissed when they announced they were going to print more of everything. Then they became mad because Aspen recanted and only printed more of the first two covers. It has been hilarious!
Everything I saw was code for "You guys are screwing up my 'pre-sell on eBay at 10x the retail price' business strategy!!!"

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Old 07-14-2016, 02:14 PM   #254
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Everything I saw was code for "You guys are screwing up my 'pre-sell on eBay at 10x the retail price' business strategy!!!"

LOL!!!
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Old 07-14-2016, 02:38 PM   #255
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What sellers were asking 10x what they PAID ? The only people approaching those multipliers is Aspen who pay 2.50-3.00 per book and sell them for 15-20+/. The cheapest anybody could buy the Puddin pack was for $65.00 shipping included. So, i wonder what is worse here , the re-seller who ASKS for that 3-4x multiplier among other sellers? or Aspen who goes back to the printers to try and push another 10,000+ books out at the SAME PRICE as before ?! A lot of greed spread out here but Aspen seems to be the most guilty of being thirsty.
that number is less because they dont have to pay turner to commission a cover
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Old 07-14-2016, 02:45 PM   #256
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What sellers were asking 10x what they PAID ? The only people approaching those multipliers is Aspen who pay 2.50-3.00 per book and sell them for 15-20+/. The cheapest anybody could buy the Puddin pack was for $65.00 shipping included. So, i wonder what is worse here , the re-seller who ASKS for that 3-4x multiplier among other sellers? or Aspen who goes back to the printers to try and push another 10,000+ books out at the SAME PRICE as before ?! A lot of greed spread out here but Aspen seems to be the most guilty of being thirsty.
The secondary market is called "secondary" for a reason: they're at the mercy of whatever the distributor decides to do. If the distributor decides to up the print run, which subsequently forces you to charge less than what you'd hoped, too bad. They're well within their rights to do so. It's the price you pay (potentially) when you speculate.
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Old 07-14-2016, 03:06 PM   #257
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What sellers were asking 10x what they PAID ? The only people approaching those multipliers is Aspen who pay 2.50-3.00 per book and sell them for 15-20+/. The cheapest anybody could buy the Puddin pack was for $65.00 shipping included. So, i wonder what is worse here , the re-seller who ASKS for that 3-4x multiplier among other sellers? or Aspen who goes back to the printers to try and push another 10,000+ books out at the SAME PRICE as before ?! A lot of greed spread out here but Aspen seems to be the most guilty of being thirsty.
Aspen is guilty of nothing but attempting to generate the most money for their business, which is the goal of any business. The recent explosion of comic book speculation is like a mirror image of what happened in the 90s. All that did was bankrupt marvel, kill most small publishers, severely injure image, and close thousands of local shops. When I see 70+ variant covers I see an industry that doesn't look like it can stand on the quality of its product and needs to find an artificial gimmick to inflate their revenue. If it wasn't for superhero films being big in Hollywood right now I don't know where we would be.
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Old 07-14-2016, 03:09 PM   #258
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Aspen is guilty of nothing but attempting to generate the most money for their business, which is the goal of any business. The recent explosion of comic book speculation is like a mirror image of what happened in the 90s. All that did was bankrupt marvel, kill most small publishers, severely injure image, and close thousands of local shops. When I see 70+ variant covers I see an industry that doesn't look like it can stand on the quality of its product and needs to find an artificial gimmick to inflate their revenue. If it wasn't for superhero films being big in Hollywood right now I don't know where we would be.
What this guy said.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:56 PM   #259
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I stand corrected slightly but still stand by my point that "most" of the fuss came from people wanting the hatless version. This comment isn't intended for you but when dealing with rare collectables some people get lucky enough to land an item and others don't. It is part of what collecting is and part of what keeps the value long term. I never expected the print run to be 3k/2k or 3k/1500 like I had seen stated by different sources because I knew there would be a cash grab done by Aspen but to increase it to 9k and 6k on what is supposed to be a limited print run comparable to the others is bad business and I won't be dealing with them again.

I am happy that you will be able to land a set but for Aspen to claim they are doing this for the fans is ridiculous. If it was for the fans they could add an extra 1000 sets of color/sketch. They could have done a second printing after that. There's so many better options then flooding the market with these.
Business is business. If they were smart, they just wouldn't release the print numbers ahead of the printing. It can only lead to dramatics, complaints, spec, etc...

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Over 2 hours in and you can STILL get the Aspen variants. I wonder how many people truly cancelled their orders? Full disclosure, I still have not. I may hold on to that Puddin' Pack since they didn't up the print run, not that it really mattered to me.
I actually just bought the regular cover, not the set (sketch a little too pricey at $40), but it was limited to 2 per order. I would have liked to buy more to increase my shot at a 9.8, but I guess I saved a little thanks to the limit. Some of that savings will probably just get turned into a press
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:08 PM   #260
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Business is business. If they were smart, they just wouldn't release the print numbers ahead of the printing. It can only lead to dramatics, complaints, spec, etc...
True. Oh well! It is what it is. It is a business. Can't really be 2 upset. Mostly when they take refunds for anyone who decides to do so. That is very cool.

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Old 07-14-2016, 08:40 PM   #261
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Seems like the books are not blowing out the doors like Aspen had thought. Also, talked to a ton of people who canceled. PR nightmare and business debacle, regardless of how you look at it for the speculation
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Seems like the books are not blowing out the doors like Aspen had thought. Also, talked to a ton of people who canceled. PR nightmare and business debacle, regardless of how you look at it for the speculation
Limit of 2 per with thousands available will slow down sales big time.

Was it limit of 2 the first presale? I know the puddin' pack was limited, but the standard color?
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Limit of 2 per with thousands available will slow down sales big time.

Was it limit of 2 the first presale? I know the puddin' pack was limited, but the standard color?


Yea it was. 1 Puddin pack per household and 2 color and sketch each.
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Yea it was. 1 Puddin pack per household and 2 color and sketch each.
Huh... so not crazy to think the initial quantities could have sold to just 1000 individuals who bought a puddin' pack plus extra books. I'm sure it was closer to 1500ish, but still not a ton of buyers. Will need at least double that to sell out the rest with the 2 book limit. I assume they will pull that after release if they still have them in stock.
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Limit of 2 per with thousands available will slow down sales big time.

Was it limit of 2 the first presale? I know the puddin' pack was limited, but the standard color?
Yes, Yes it was.

I canceled half my order. I ended up getting two color, two black and white sets, and 1 Puddin Pack. I called today and canceled all but the puddin pack. Many others have done this same thing. So the books may not be selling as fast as they are being returned. I believe I am getting a little schadenfreude out of this.
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:11 PM   #266
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Yes, Yes it was.

I canceled half my order. I ended up getting two color, two black and white sets, and 1 Puddin Pack. I called today and canceled all but the puddin pack. Many others have done this same thing. So the books may not be selling as fast as they are being returned. I believe I am getting a little schadenfreude out of this.
Why keep the puddin pack? If they've upset you so that you don't want to do business with them, why only partially stop doing business with them?
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:26 PM   #267
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Huh... so not crazy to think the initial quantities could have sold to just 1000 individuals who bought a puddin' pack plus extra books. I'm sure it was closer to 1500ish, but still not a ton of buyers. Will need at least double that to sell out the rest with the 2 book limit. I assume they will pull that after release if they still have them in stock.

Yep I was thinking about 1500 people+-. how many people do you think that wanted a color/sketch set but didn't get one opening day?
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:27 PM   #268
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Why keep the puddin pack? If they've upset you so that you don't want to do business with them, why only partially stop doing business with them?
Because I wanted the Hatless version. I have bought every Aspen variant they have put out up until now. Was doing a set and was submitting for grading. Giving up on the idea now. Thought it would have been a nice DC slab set to own (did buy the ASM as well though). Harley is one of my favorite characters. I will not purchase any more forward and cut the other books out because they were superfluous.
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:54 PM   #269
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Yep I was thinking about 1500 people+-. how many people do you think that wanted a color/sketch set but didn't get one opening day?
I don't know... They are not Midtown or Hastings. A lot of collectors probably don't know they exist.

I do think they will eventually sell through on thisome cover though. It's one of the better exclusives, in my opinion, and I think when it finally hits there will be decent demand for collectors.

I'm actually not a huge fan of the unmasked, except that it is limited. The head just doesn't look like it belongs, to me. I would have bought the puddin' pack if the price was right, but that book would have been a flip for sure.
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Old 07-15-2016, 04:32 PM   #270
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all these Variant Covers and the only one i ordered was the Most Good Hobby Color one lol
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Old 07-15-2016, 05:01 PM   #271
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73 covers now...
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Old 07-16-2016, 12:43 PM   #272
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I didn't see the Painted Visions variant posted yet, so here it is...

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Old 07-20-2016, 10:37 PM   #273
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Hi,

There are at least two other Harley Quinn Variants. There is one by Eric Basaldua, and one by Dan Panosian for the Boston Comic Con. I bought the original comic book art for the covers by Guilliem March and Khary Randolph, and I thought you might want to see what the other covers are going for

Amanda Conner (?)
Bill Sienkiewicz (?)
ArtGerm (Sold, Price Unknown)
Dell Otto (?)
Michael Turner ( ?)
Warren Louw (Digital Art, No Physical Art)
Emmanuela Lupacchino ($3800)
Guilliem March ($1,200 Sold)
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Lopresti ($1,700, Sold)
Eric Basaldua ($4000 time payment or $3,500 cash)
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Sorry for all the unknowns. Many of the artists or their reps haven't gotten back to me yet. As far as the variant covers go, I bought a color and B&W of the Guilliem March cover, two color of the Rebel Base Comics cover, 50 of the B&W and 50 Color for the Amanda Conner ECCC cover, and 99 copies of the regular Amanda Conner cover. I might get a few of the other ones, but some of the prices are ridiculous.
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Old 07-21-2016, 08:01 AM   #274
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I love it already. As Donald would say, "This film is gonna be Yuuuuuuge!"
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