Warning: Jesse Boeglin of Ashaway, RI, aka cardscout accused of multiple thefts

[CardScout]

Threads:

Anyone know where to locate trading rules for new members (how new members mail 1st)

Watch out for user ID CardScout

Public information:

Jesse Boeglin
251 main St.
Ashaway RI 02804
(401)500-1093 Cell
(401)377-2530 Work
(401)377-4721 Fax

GREAT AMERICAN READERS

Date of Birth June 17, 1976

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Comolli Granite Co Inc
Monument Maker · Ashaway
Address: 4 Chase Hill Rd, Ashaway, RI 02804
Phone: (401) 377-2530

https://www.facebook.com/Comolli-Gra...7242716070829/

https://www.facebook.com/jesse.boeglin.1

https://www.facebook.com/public/Jesse-Boeglin

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Jesse Boeglin, Shop Foreman & Self Proclaimed Artist at Comolli Granite Ashaway, Rhode Island



https://myspace.com/dna_online

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-boeglin-34b94557



DNA_Online's Library | Photobucket

http://s1362.photobucket.com/user/Je...?sort=4&page=1

Cards stolen:

From ludo
2014-15 Panini Flawless #160 LeBron James USA 08/20
2012-13 Panini Flawless BenchMarks #41 Stephen Curry AU 08/10
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...less-auto.html

From ronniebrown420
86/87 fleer jordan rc sticker psa 7 st
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...ers-trade.html

From mpekar
? $200 card

Relevant posts:

He says he does not have an eBay account which is most probably #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@. For those of you who sell a lot of basketball/football on eBay, search your paypal payments by last name. I bet someone on this forum has sold to a Boeglin. Let's get a username boda.

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He needed a link for SCF on 10/25 because he wanted to become a member there...

Yet he has been a member since August and has logged in in October.

View Profile: Mojo - Sports Card Forum - Sports Cards Community

Kyrie Irving Rookie Auto FT

I am trading with a new member and he thinks I am trying to swindle him by telling him he needs to mail an item first I am having trouble finding any sort of rule on this. Please send me a link if you know where to find it. Thanks

[asujbl]

New members don't have to send first... this isn't SCF

Now I 100% agree with you that there is no chance I wouldn't make that person send first. At minimum we'd be using a moderator as a 3rd party if it was a deal I absolutely had to have

[CardScout]

Really? Wow has this always been the case because I remember when I was just starting out they made it seam like that was rules. Plus it seams logical since new members have nothing to lose. I already sent $700 via paypal and now he is having the package called back since I waiting to get the card before I send. The funny thing is I was actually going to mail his card today since i had to got to the post office anyways but I told him I was going to wait and he went into over load calling me deceitful and criticizing my trading practices. I just thought I was doing what I was supposed to to do it is what I have been doing ever since I became a member. Probably lucky now that I know you can call back a package after mailing it.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by CardScout

Really? Wow has this always been the case because I remember when I was just starting out they made it seam like that was rules. Plus it seams logical since new members have nothing to lose. I already sent $700 via paypal and now he is having the package called back since I waiting to get the card before I send. The funny thing is I was actually going to mail his card today since i had to got to the post office anyways but I told him I was going to wait and he went into over load calling me deceitful and criticizing my trading practices. I just thought I was doing what I was supposed to to do it is what I have been doing ever since I became a member. Probably lucky now that I know you can call back a package after mailing it.

I'm 99% sure it's always been the case.

Now common sense should dictate that a new member, especially with your feedback, send first. I would absolutely make them. Like I said if it was a huge deal I didn't want to lose? I'd use a 3rd party.

But there isn't any rule like there was/is on SCF when that place was relevant.

[gingerscards]

Yeah, it is not a written rule, but in most cases the new user with 0 feedback is asked to send first. There are some here who request the other person sends first if their feedback is lowers then their own, << lol
My policy is similar to SCF, if you have less than 20 feedbacks, I will ask for you to send first , no exceptions what so ever

[jlzinck]

So wait....New Member has $700 of yours and hasn't sent the card yet because you also have to send a card to the new member?

[socal805]

I don't believe its a written rule...either way why not just have both members provide tracking #'s?

FrmDaLeftCoast

[iluvfish2]

There are no rules on this. Each trade can set their own rules if they so chose. IF the other party doesnt like them, then no deal. Establish members can easily take advantage of new ones - this happened years ago with me on another forum and questioning it and the deal that was in place almost got me removed from the site. Guy got paid, and I never got the card. I still think he shipped it ($5 card), and likely lost via customs, but it very quickly went from the newbie questioning things, to the veteran was always right.

I know a lot of other guys will use ebay feedback and/or other forum feedback for references if for example you want to ship the same day, but we've tried to keep things simple.

Frankly if you want cheap protection on a trade, just buy each others cards for the same value. Figure say $100 coverage costs you about 3 bucks (2.9% + pp fee). Also automatcially gets you the other partys confirmed shipping info and you can use paypal shipping (not that still cant use paypal shipping without a payment, but does automate that process and eliminate any typo's).

I've also done moderated trades for a lot of guys. A few more hoops to run through if you are using me, but at times its a nice peice of mind and I'm not charging anything to do it, but I have my own set of criteria thats used.

[chrisfaceoff]

Pleas e keep us updated on how this turns out.

reacting to the same as everyone else. If I trade on here(very VERY rare) and the member has under 10 iTrader, I always ask for them to send first and reiterate that its just because of seeing how some situations on her have gone down before. As long as it is conveyed prior to a trade agreement, it shouldn't be a problem, and for me, it never has.

Obviously there are 2 sides to the story, and assuming you left out no other details or asked them last minute to send first but I would be very leery of this deal at the moment.

[IronMonkey415]

Next time send them to me and I'll mail them out to right people with fortune cookies note in them.

This is a new service I'm thinking of creating here on BO.

[chrisfaceoff]

Originally Posted by iluvfish2

There are no rules on this. Each trade can set their own rules if they so chose. IF the other party doesnt like them, then no deal. Establish members can easily take advantage of new ones - this happened years ago with me on another forum and questioning it and the deal that was in place almost got me removed from the site. Guy got paid, and I never got the card. I still think he shipped it ($5 card), and likely lost via customs, but it very quickly went from the newbie questioning things, to the veteran was always right.

I know a lot of other guys will use ebay feedback and/or other forum feedback for references if for example you want to ship the same day, but we've tried to keep things simple.

Frankly if you want cheap protection on a trade, just buy each others cards for the same value. Figure say $100 coverage costs you about 3 bucks (2.9% + pp fee). Also automatcially gets you the other partys confirmed shipping info and you can use paypal shipping (not that still cant use paypal shipping without a payment, but does automate that process and eliminate any typo's).

I've also done moderated trades for a lot of guys. A few more hoops to run through if you are using me, but at times its a nice peice of mind and I'm not charging anything to do it, but I have my own set of criteria thats used.

This is great information to know for the future. Thanks for the heads up on that!

[CardScout]

Thanks for everyone getting involved. I appreciate it, I wasn't even thinking about how he already has $700 of my money and he is making a big deal about this. I just figured I could show him the rule and put an end to it all. Guess not. Thanks again, everyone from now on I am going to make sure I explain it as my rule and not a forum rule. I don't blame you Ginger you have the right idea.

[rustyisin]

I'm the other member...not new either.
I've been in the hobby 30 years and have perfect e-bay feeback on only high dollar transaction since 1998.

Cardscout asked me to accept some trade on an item he wanted - he is making a purchase from me, not me from him.
I extended the courtesy of mailing his $2500 card on Saturday and not waiting for the balance of his payment (card items for trade).
Buyer did not answer several forms of communication from me throughout the weekend and into today.
Finally, he tells me it's policy to wait for trade items to show up from members who have under 50 feedback. Never heard this before.
Due to this members deliberate deceit I am recalling this item and will refund his payment when my card is safely back in my hands.

Cardscout also refuses to give his ebay user name.

51 years old.
Social worker
In the hobby 30 years
Perfect ebay feedback on high dollar transactions

Never had this kind of mistrust.

[rustyisin]

Originally Posted by socal805

I don't believe its a written rule...either way why not just have both members provide tracking #'s?

FrmDaLeftCoast

I provided my tracking. Cardscout does not have one

[gingerscards]

Originally Posted by rustyisin

I'm the other member...not new either.
I've been in the hobby 30 years and have perfect e-bay feeback on only high dollar transaction since 1998.

Cardscout asked me to accept some trade on an item he wanted - he is making a purchase from me, not me from him.
I extended the courtesy of mailing his $2500 card on Saturday and not waiting for the balance of his payment (card items for trade).
Buyer did not answer several forms of communication from me throughout the weekend and into today.
Finally, he tells me it's policy to wait for trade items to show up from members who have under 50 feedback. Never heard this before.
Due to this members deliberate deceit I am recalling this item and will refund his payment when my card is safely back in my hands.

Cardscout also refuses to give his ebay user name.

51 years old.
Social worker
In the hobby 30 years
Perfect ebay feedback on high dollar transactions

Never had this kind of mistrust.

I have dealt with Cardscout before and I will say I do not think there is any deceit, this and his feedback should secure that notion, Ebay name has nothing do with a trade here.
You are in Canada for one, it was a high dollar trade which Cardscout sent $$ first, so you mailed the one big card $2500 but not the others as part of the deal?
Second being over the border and having only 14 feedbacks, you are fairly new. So him asking for all his stuff and waiting to send the rest of yours _ the $$ already sent to you immediately ??? is not really out of the question.
Now you want to end the whole transaction because Cardscout, was waiting for all his cards?



If I missed something, please enlighten me.

[glen87]

re-read, sorry

[Boo]

Originally Posted by rustyisin

I'm the other member...not new either.
I've been in the hobby 30 years and have perfect e-bay feeback on only high dollar transaction since 1998.

Cardscout asked me to accept some trade on an item he wanted - he is making a purchase from me, not me from him.
I extended the courtesy of mailing his $2500 card on Saturday and not waiting for the balance of his payment (card items for trade).
Buyer did not answer several forms of communication from me throughout the weekend and into today.
Finally, he tells me it's policy to wait for trade items to show up from members who have under 50 feedback. Never heard this before.
Due to this members deliberate deceit I am recalling this item and will refund his payment when my card is safely back in my hands.

Cardscout also refuses to give his ebay user name.

51 years old.
Social worker
In the hobby 30 years
Perfect ebay feedback on high dollar transactions

Never had this kind of mistrust.

Someone get the popcorn, this is going to be good. BTW, the above and $.50 still won't get you a cup of coffee. I don't care if you are the Pope, you can still run a scam.

[gingerscards]

Originally Posted by Boo

Someone get the popcorn, this is going to be good. BTW, the above and $.50 still won't get you a cup of coffee. I don't care if you are the Pope, you can still run a scam.

Smartfood bag is open and awaiting responses, lol

[rustyisin]

Originally Posted by gingerscards

I have dealt with Cardscout before and I will say I do not think there is any deceit, this and his feedback should secure that notion, Ebay name has nothing do with a trade here.
You are in Canada for one, it was a high dollar trade which Cardscout sent $$ first, so you mailed the one big card $2500 but not the others as part of the deal?
Second being over the border and having only 14 feedbacks, you are fairly new. So him asking for all his stuff and waiting to send the rest of yours _ the $$ already sent to you immediately ??? is not really out of the question.
Now you want to reside the whole transaction because Cardscout, was waiting for all his cards?



If I missed something, please enlighten me.

I did not ask him to send his items first. My expectation was the trade items be sent at the same time. They were not. My end mailed promptly on Saturday.

Yes, ebay feedback comes into play when assessing a traders references.

I have a postage address in Washington State

CardScout was full communication up to the point where I sent my card on Saturday - then blank. No reply to messages here or via text. This is the behavior of deceit. He obviously knew I would not be happy about his trading policy.

Honestly, my 14 transactions here have a value of over 10K. Cardscout feedback might amount to a fraction of this.
Do yourself a favor and check my ebay.

I'm also on SCF.

I have $130,000 worth of listings on ebay

[TarjetasBéisbol]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I'm 99% sure it's always been the case.

Now common sense should dictate that a new member, especially with your feedback, send first. I would absolutely make them. Like I said if it was a huge deal I didn't want to lose? I'd use a 3rd party.

But there isn't any rule like there was/is on SCF when that place was relevant.

How is someone supposed to make another person do something they won't do?

The bottom line is both traders need to feel comfortable making the deal, if you don't feel comfortable just move on. Trust is good but control is better, sometimes that control will make you spend more money to make it happen.

I understand your point Rusty but telling us who you are or what you do for a living may not help much, it depends on how trustworthy you are actually perceived during the transaction. Good luck with the trade.

Edit: We have seen many times over that a person's iTrader or eBay feedback is only as good as their last transaction.

[gingerscards]

Originally Posted by rustyisin

I did not ask him to send his items first. My expectation was the trade items be sent at the same time. They were not. My end mailed promptly on Saturday.

Yes, ebay feedback comes into play when assessing a traders references.

I have a postage address in Washington State

CardScout was full communication up to the point where I sent my card on Saturday - then blank. No reply to messages here or via text. This is the behavior of deceit. He obviously knew I would not be happy about his trading policy.

Honestly, my 14 transactions here have a value of over 10K. Cardscout feedback might amount to a fraction of this.
Do yourself a favor and check my ebay.

I'm also on SCF.

I am also on SCf and dollar amount of your transactions should not and do not weigh in more than a $.50 deal. Oh yeah I am on Ebay as well, but that is here nor there.
What is important is you the $$ ( $700) so yeah you mailed the card promptly, that is was your supposed to do, now if either of you did not SPECIFY the details of the rest of the agreement, AKA. you ask cardscout to mail his end at the same time and did cardscout say he was going to wai, I am think neither happen and we are here today.
Not replying over the weekend is really no big deal when you have $700 of his money and he is simply waiting for the mail to come in. He could of been simply busy this weekend and not logged on to answer you.
So now that you assumed, well we all know what that means, lol.
I do not need to check your Ebay for a reference, I am not here to judge your character based on that alone or SCF feedback or any other,
it could of been worked out easy, Cardscout finally gets his card in the mail and then mails your end of cards as part of the trade, really since you got $700 upfront , I see no big deal in this, but your reaction to trun back 100% now is well alarming and Cardscout should put paypal claim in right away to protect himself

[rustyisin]

Originally Posted by TarjetasBéisbol

How is someone supposed to make another person do something they won't do?

The bottom line is both traders need to feel comfortable making the deal, if you don't feel comfortable just move on. Trust is good but control is better, sometimes that control will make you spend more money to make it happen.

agreed.
I went out of my way to help this collector land my card - I accepted items that I never carry in my inventory. I was on the up and up the whole time.
It's costing me $40 to cancel this transaction - so I'm spending my money to make it clear to Cardscout that what he did was not cool with me....especially ignoring my messages when he has my $2500 card on the way with a fraction of it paid for.

[hche]

I think there is a misunderstanding between the trade parties that Cardscout is expecting rutyisin to send first due to his low feedback score and rutyisin is expecting both party to send at the same time. It didn't seem like the order of things was put into the original trade deal.

[sasports]

Originally Posted by rustyisin

I'm the other member...not new either.
I've been in the hobby 30 years and have perfect e-bay feeback on only high dollar transaction since 1998.

Cardscout asked me to accept some trade on an item he wanted - he is making a purchase from me, not me from him.
I extended the courtesy of mailing his $2500 card on Saturday and not waiting for the balance of his payment (card items for trade).
Buyer did not answer several forms of communication from me throughout the weekend and into today.
Finally, he tells me it's policy to wait for trade items to show up from members who have under 50 feedback. Never heard this before.
Due to this members deliberate deceit I am recalling this item and will refund his payment when my card is safely back in my hands.

Cardscout also refuses to give his ebay user name.

51 years old.
Social worker
In the hobby 30 years
Perfect ebay feedback on high dollar transactions

Never had this kind of mistrust.

I probably would have kept quiet in this thread in your shoes. Looking at the details from both ends, you have nothing to gain but a lot to lose by making yourself known. the other member was asking a question about policy and made it a point not to call you out, and your here trashing him and accusing him of something without any proof.

There are a lot of members on BO that spend a lot of money who will likely not want to deal with you knowing that you are acting this way over a simple miscommunication. And honestly, I dont answer my emails daily. I have a life away from ball cards.

[rustyisin]

Originally Posted by iluvfish2

There are no rules on this. Each trade can set their own rules if they so chose. IF the other party doesnt like them, then no deal. Establish members can easily take advantage of new ones - this happened years ago with me on another forum and questioning it and the deal that was in place almost got me removed from the site. Guy got paid, and I never got the card. I still think he shipped it ($5 card), and likely lost via customs, but it very quickly went from the newbie questioning things, to the veteran was always right.

I know a lot of other guys will use ebay feedback and/or other forum feedback for references if for example you want to ship the same day, but we've tried to keep things simple.

Frankly if you want cheap protection on a trade, just buy each others cards for the same value. Figure say $100 coverage costs you about 3 bucks (2.9% + pp fee). Also automatcially gets you the other partys confirmed shipping info and you can use paypal shipping (not that still cant use paypal shipping without a payment, but does automate that process and eliminate any typo's).

I've also done moderated trades for a lot of guys. A few more hoops to run through if you are using me, but at times its a nice peice of mind and I'm not charging anything to do it, but I have my own set of criteria thats used.

thanks for the info.
I didn't think I needed a moderator - until trader did not send his items and avoided communicating with me for 2 days.
Trader made no mention on needing to see my card first until 48 hrs after I shipped. I "assumed" this was a gentleman's transaction. I was wrong