Trade rumors

[Hollywood42]

I don't really think it's even worth thinking about. The trade will never happen. Tigers need to rebuild, so why trade your best pitcher who is only 24? They should be trading just about everybody BUT Fulmer. He's going to command a high price because he's young, cheap, and a great player. But there's no reason the Cubs would drop Schwarber, a top 10 prospect, plus a rookie who has been playing quite well for a single pitcher who won't even help their team that much (they're much farther away at this point than 1 single pitcher fixing their team). Doesn't make any sense for them to give that much. The Tigers are right to place a sky high price tag on Fulmer, if they even trade him anyways, and the Cubs are right to stay far away. I don't think there's any point to thinking about that possible trade because it makes no sense from either side

Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

so if both in your opinion are insane then what is the happy middle ground in your opinion? Schwarber and Happ?? no f'n shot they trade fulmer for just those two...no shot whatsoever...Kyle/Happ/eloy?? well now ur one top 100 prospect off from what i said...so i wouldnt say that is equally as crazy as just the 1for1...

[base set]

Originally Posted by Cheddar

The Tigers are in an interesting situation.

yeah, as in the supposed ancient Chinese or 1930s English curse: "May you live in interesting times."


I will say this about the question Theo alledgedly put to Avila, re: Fulmer. When this news came out the other day it fairly surprised many Tigers fans, most of whom think Fulmer should be untouchable. No Tigers media commentator had dreamed up such a question either, previously, at least not in their public output.

But the fact that Avila was asked the question by another GM shows how other GMs would indeed consider trading Fulmer, given the Tigers' current situation.

The way I see the Tigers roster, they need a new C, 3B, corner OF, 2B, DH, CF and/or reserve OF, and reserve IF, presuming they don't re-sign JD Martinez. On the farm they might have a new OF on the way and a bunch more random pitching prospects (most of the last 2 draft classes, which also included 2 middle round Catchers each year I believe); whoop-eee. Their contracted starting Pitchers to pick from for the next few years is a big jumble of question marks outside of Fulmer and though they have one excellent bullpen piece (Shane Greene) and a few showing interesting potential right now, that is not enough to contend. But then with the starting 8 and the rotation they can likely field, they don't really need a bullpen anyway. They are not just a "couple key pieces" away from starting Michael Fulmer in ALCS game #1, 2019, as so many of their fans think.

They are also on track for their lowest attendance in 12 years right now and Michael Fulmer's WAR won't be far enough above that to change it, when he is surrounded by a whole lot of replacement players.


The Tigers' dark horse trade chip right now is Anibal Sanchez. JD Martinez, Alex Avila (sitting at 4th in MLB in OBP and 13th in MLB in OPS; not on the qualifying lists by only a dozen or so AB), and JD Wilson do give them one of the better hands at the table right now though, even without finding someone with deep enough pockets to get Fulmer. The idea of trading Verlander while paying some of his salary also kind of gives them the option to effectively purchase themselves some prospects/Rookies. If Avila Sr. blows this hand in the next 2.5 weeks somehow, ownership might as well fire the entire front office and start over from Ground Zero.

[Cheddar]

Originally Posted by base set

yeah, as in the supposed ancient Chinese or 1930s English curse: "May you live in interesting times."


I will say this about the question Theo alledgedly put to Avila, re: Fulmer. When this news came out the other day it fairly surprised many Tigers fans, most of whom think Fulmer should be untouchable. No Tigers media commentator had dreamed up such a question either, previously, at least not in their public output.

But the fact that Avila was asked the question by another GM shows how other GMs would indeed consider trading Fulmer, given the Tigers' current situation.

The way I see the Tigers roster, they need a new C, 3B, corner OF, 2B, DH, CF and/or reserve OF, and reserve IF, presuming they don't re-sign JD Martinez. On the farm they might have a new OF on the way and a bunch more random pitching prospects (most of the last 2 draft classes, which also included 2 middle round Catchers each year I believe); whoop-eee. Their contracted starting Pitchers to pick from for the next few years is a big jumble of question marks outside of Fulmer and though they have one excellent bullpen piece (Shane Greene) and a few showing interesting potential right now, that is not enough to contend. But then with the starting 8 and the rotation they can likely field, they don't really need a bullpen anyway. They are not just a "couple key pieces" away from starting Michael Fulmer in ALCS game #1, 2019, as so many of their fans think.

They are also on track for their lowest attendance in 12 years right now and Michael Fulmer's WAR won't be far enough above that to change it, when he is surrounded by a whole lot of replacement players.


The Tigers' dark horse trade chip right now is Anibal Sanchez. JD Martinez, Alex Avila (sitting at 4th in MLB in OBP and 13th in MLB in OPS; not on the qualifying lists by only a dozen or so AB), and JD Wilson do give them one of the better hands at the table right now though, even without finding someone with deep enough pockets to get Fulmer. The idea of trading Verlander while paying some of his salary also kind of gives them the option to effectively purchase themselves some prospects/Rookies. If Avila Sr. blows this hand in the next 2.5 weeks somehow, ownership might as well fire the entire front office and start over from Ground Zero.

I think you summed up the Tigers situation pretty well, and Avila has some really tough calls to make. They could simply try and re-tool the roster a little bit, or blow the whole thing up. They are going to have some bad money on the books, and that might be the deciding force if they can't get attendance figures up.

[lambeauleap87]

Fulmer is an outstanding talent and only twenty-four with five and a half years of team control. If anybody is going to acquire him, it's reasonable to assume that they'll have to pay a hefty price.

I hope the Twins/Royals are buyers and really leverage their futures this year. Indians are projected to run away with the division, so everybody else might as well blow their futures too.

[ntgm37]

Eduardo Rodriguez and Blake Swihart

For

Kyle Schwarber

Who says "no"?

[Wrigs37]

awz50 in 3,2,1... Go!

[enbambam6986]

Originally Posted by sammyjankis

This will sound blasphemous, but I hope the Rangers can move Darvish for some prospects. Maybe Profar and a mid-level prospect for a bullpen arm.

Move Darvish AND get a bullpen arm? What? Are you a buyer or seller

[Wrigs37]

Originally Posted by enbambam6986

Move Darvish AND get a bullpen arm? What? Are you a buyer or seller

I'd love for the Cubs to acquire Darvish and Sign him after this year... That's the move I'm rooting for. I'm not sure what it would cost... Hopefully at a discount because of the rental factor...

[enbambam6986]

Originally Posted by Wrigs37

I'd love for the Cubs to acquire Darvish and Sign him after this year... That's the move I'm rooting for. I'm not sure what it would cost... Hopefully at a discount because of the rental factor...

It's funny that a full year of Paul George gets you nothing, but a half season of Darvish would cost you your top prospects.

[awz50]

Originally Posted by ntgm37

Eduardo Rodriguez and Blake Swihart

For

Kyle Schwarber

Who says "no"?

Hell no

[awz50]

Originally Posted by Wrigs37

awz50 in 3,2,1... Go!

[RelicCollector]

I really hope the Nats get Zach Britton. If not, I would settle with David Robertson. I prefer a guy with closer experience, not just a good reliever. However, we still need good relievers. How about we get 1 true closer and 1 or 2 good 7th/8th guys. Let's go!

[Wrightfan85]

As a Mets fan, I'd like to get a nice prospect for Addison Reed. Can really help a team out of the pen.

[base set]

Originally Posted by RelicCollector

I really hope the Nats get Zach Britton. If not, I would settle with David Robertson. I prefer a guy with closer experience, not just a good reliever. However, we still need good relievers. How about we get 1 true closer and 1 or 2 good 7th/8th guys. Let's go!

what will the Nats be trading?

[Tarheelsfan2012]

Originally Posted by base set

what will the Nats be trading?

You'd figure they have to give up Soto, Feede or Carter Kieboom to get a closer.

[cnewby]

Anyone see what inning Quintana was on display tonight? I mustve missed it.

[Homerun]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Anyone see what inning Quintana was on display tonight? I mustve missed it.

I didn't see "legitimate ace" Masahiro Tanaka pitch tonight either.

[CoolG]

Originally Posted by rman112

Cubs fans delusionally think that Schwarber is worth something right now. Yes, I'm sure the Tigers are interested in a .180 hitting strikeout machine who can't play the field, in return for a young starter with a career 3.11 ERA in the AL.. who's making peanuts and under control for years.

Schwarber pretty much delivered them the World Series title last year ending the 100 plus year draught. So of course fans still hold him in high regard. Let's be realistic he's not a .180 hitter or a .450 hitter (WS stats)
Guy is a legit 37 / 100 .275 type guy and still has legit trade value in most GM's eyes.

[JackThree]

Originally Posted by Homerun

I didn't see "legitimate ace" Masahiro Tanaka pitch tonight either.

LMAO!

[jstasyk1121]

Originally Posted by CoolG

Schwarber pretty much delivered them the World Series title last year ending the 100 plus year draught. So of course fans still hold him in high regard. Let's be realistic he's not a .180 hitter or a .450 hitter (WS stats)
Guy is a legit 37 / 100 .275 type guy and still has legit trade value in most GM's eyes.

Actually u are flat out guessing here...he is more of a .180 hitter than .275 hitter...since he has been a .180 hitter for like 80% of his mlb career to this point...

I don't know how in the world with a straight face u can say he is a legit .275/35hr/100rbi guy....that is basically g.stanton...

[myerscards]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Wait... We're talking about Michael Fulmer for Schwarber and some prospects? Yeah right....


For the Twins, we still need some pitching. However, we aren't true contenders this year and should stay true to our timeline that really starts in another year or two. We aren't there yet, but we're getting closer. I would absolutely hate to see us buy a half season rental, but if we can move a prospect or two, even some of our better ones, for a solid pitcher that is under contract for a few years, I'm on board. We could also use some bullpen help, as could just about every team in the MLB. All that said, I don't see the Twins making any major moves this year, and that's probably alright

They are 2and a half games out. Then what is a contender? They aren't real contenders because they never make big moves. ( Oh yeah they did they acquired Bartolo Colon in both ways ).

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Homerun

I didn't see "legitimate ace" Masahiro Tanaka pitch tonight either.

He took the night off to get healthy for the second half. Ya know, since the Yankees are actually in the playoff hunt and all.

[Devourment]

Originally Posted by CoolG

Schwarber pretty much delivered them the World Series title last year ending the 100 plus year draught. So of course fans still hold him in high regard. Let's be realistic he's not a .180 hitter or a .450 hitter (WS stats)
Guy is a legit 37 / 100 .275 type guy and still has legit trade value in most GM's eyes.

Uh.....what?

[Craiggysanford]

Originally Posted by bajcards4215

I'm terrified Dombrowski will trade Devers for :shudder: Todd Frazier.

I would be irate and would prob go on the dark web, get some anthrax, put said anthrax inside an envelope, send said anthrax laden envelope to his office, and wait for the FBI to show up at my house because I just POSTED my plan on BO. LOL. Seriously though, I'd be pretty bummed and would prob stop collecting cards. I lost A LOT on Moncada!!! Idk if the GF would be ok with me tanking on Devers too.

[roro17]

Degrom gonna go to the Stros