Interesting story on Bleacher Report on the Bryant Black Wave Ref

seanbros55 · 07-26-2017, 01:28 PM

Sorry if someone already posted this...didn't see it on forums anywhere

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-baseball-card

Bob Loblaw · 07-26-2017, 02:05 PM

This was discussed here at length a few months ago. I love the theory that all 35 are in a few packs.

It was essentially agreed amongst almost all parties that Topps held on to the cards.

Were any ever given out during the Transcendent party? I thought I saw that some were available then.

BluesBroSJ · 07-26-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

It was essentially agreed amongst almost all parties that Topps held on to the cards.

Were any ever given out during the Transcendent party? I thought I saw that some were available then.

No they weren't, the only Bryant given away that wasn't exclusive to the party was one Black Ref auto in a 9.5 slab. What we were told by some of the Topps execs was they are in packs, but they couldn't (or didn't) explain the sequentially graded cards. I know a few other members here had more at length discussion about this than I did, if they care to chime in here.

Mister2Bits · 07-26-2017, 02:40 PM

Topps response...

pgisback · 07-26-2017, 02:43 PM

The part about the fact so many were sent to get graded at once is sketchy.

bdsparty32 · 07-26-2017, 02:43 PM

No chance that they're in packs...Topps/Topps employees have them stashed

justin80 · 07-26-2017, 03:58 PM

Found the old thread:

http://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=984467

peterose4hof · 07-26-2017, 04:08 PM

Sad thing is, if in fact these never got packed out and Topps sent them to be graded way back when, people would love to have these as replacements for unfulfilled high-end redemptions, but Topps could never admit they have them (if they have them).

They might as well dump them in the Atlantic Ocean.

gabballplayer14 · 07-26-2017, 04:10 PM

They are 100% sitting in the desk of a certain Topps employee.

Bcwcardz · 07-26-2017, 07:04 PM

The ethics of this company seem questionable at best. It sucks for collectors.

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kyle1707 · 07-26-2017, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcwcardz

The ethics of this company seem questionable at best. It sucks for collectors.

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Go buy a couple Panini cases then report back...

texmcpherson · 07-26-2017, 07:13 PM

"Topps did not respond to several requests for comment on this story."

ThoseBackPages · 07-26-2017, 07:13 PM

damn prospect cards!

3of5-2 · 07-26-2017, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

The part about the fact so many were sent to get graded at once is sketchy.

They were.

Archangel1775 · 07-26-2017, 10:24 PM

So the other KB thread confirmed that Topps did indeed send them all in for grading to increase value and gave them out as high end redemption replacements. Additionally, the KB that was given out as a gift at the Topps Transcendent party(Balck Refractor Auto) was likely from that Topps KB BGS group submission also.

*To save people time from skimming thru the other thread.

Neo · 07-26-2017, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

So the other KB thread confirmed that Topps did indeed send them all in for grading to increase value and gave them out as high end redemption replacements. Additionally, the KB that was given out as a gift at the Topps Transcendent party(Balck Refractor Auto) was likely from that Topps KB BGS group submission also.

*To save people time from skimming thru the other thread.

Thank you.

I was coming to my own grand theory. I'll put the chalk board away.

Bcwcardz · 07-26-2017, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

So the other KB thread confirmed that Topps did indeed send them all in for grading to increase value and gave them out as high end redemption replacements. Additionally, the KB that was given out as a gift at the Topps Transcendent party(Balck Refractor Auto) was likely from that Topps KB BGS group submission also.

*To save people time from skimming thru the other thread.

So they graded them only to increase their value? Thats hard to believe. If thats the case, how many other cards have they done this to? There is not a NON graded card that would equal the value of this card in its graded state. So they are just going to sit on them? I think someone over there kept them and had them graded to sell at a later date. When you are printing money its easy to be tempted. All we can do is wait and see if they ever surface. Topps says they were packed out. Yeah right.

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houdini · 07-27-2017, 02:16 AM

Well, I was given this image some time back.

The information I was given is that these were sent to BGS all at once from Topps. I can only tell you what I was told.

oplum29 · 07-27-2017, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by seanbros55

Sorry if someone already posted this...didn't see it on forums anywhere

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-baseball-card

yes, I did! but in this thread...

http://www.blowoutforums.com/showthr...1135695&page=5

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Originally Posted by oplum29

interesting story about a Kris Bryant "True rookie card" from BR today...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-baseball-card

this was my favorite part...

"The Bowman Chrome prospect cards, like the ones Bryant has, are typically considered by collectors to be a player's "true rookie card." Cards with autographs are even more valuable, for obvious reasons. So if there is one person with nearly all of these Kris Bryant cards, the collection could be valued over $500,000."

oplum29 · 07-27-2017, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

So the other KB thread confirmed that Topps did indeed send them all in for grading to increase value and gave them out as high end redemption replacements. Additionally, the KB that was given out as a gift at the Topps Transcendent party(Balck Refractor Auto) was likely from that Topps KB BGS group submission also.

*To save people time from skimming thru the other thread.

thanks for the Cliff's Notes!

hofcollector2 · 07-27-2017, 02:45 AM

Wait I thought only Panini screws collectors...

oplum29 · 07-27-2017, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hofcollector2

Wait I thought only Panini screws collectors...

HAHA!!! good one

oplum29 · 07-27-2017, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BluesBroSJ

No they weren't, the only Bryant given away that wasn't exclusive to the party was one Black Ref auto in a 9.5 slab. What we were told by some of the Topps execs was they are in packs, but they couldn't (or didn't) explain the sequentially graded cards. I know a few other members here had more at length discussion about this than I did, if they care to chime in here.

so then of the 50, 35 are missing? Or are they randomly inserted in packs?

Archangel1775 · 07-27-2017, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by oplum29

so then of the 50, 35 are missing? Or are they randomly inserted in packs?

They didn't meet minimum grade. 😂 . Unlikely, looks like they are currently stashed away.

oplum29 · 07-27-2017, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

They didn't meet minimum grade. 😂 . Unlikely, looks like they are currently stashed away.

that is insane!

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Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,878	So the other KB thread confirmed that Topps did indeed send them all in for grading to increase value and gave them out as high end redemption replacements. Additionally, the KB that was given out as a gift at the Topps Transcendent party(Balck Refractor Auto) was likely from that Topps KB BGS group submission also. To save people time from skimming thru the other thread. __________________ There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

07-26-2017, 02:05 PM	#2
Bob Loblaw Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spring Training Paradise, FL Posts: 13,050	This was discussed here at length a few months ago. I love the theory that all 35 are in a few packs. It was essentially agreed amongst almost all parties that Topps held on to the cards. Were any ever given out during the Transcendent party? I thought I saw that some were available then.

07-26-2017, 02:43 PM	#5
pgisback Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 21,023	The part about the fact so many were sent to get graded at once is sketchy.

07-26-2017, 02:43 PM	#6
bdsparty32 Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,403 bdsparty32	No chance that they're in packs...Topps/Topps employees have them stashed

07-26-2017, 03:58 PM	#7
justin80 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,172	Found the old thread: http://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=984467

07-26-2017, 04:08 PM	#8
peterose4hof Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,375 peterose4hof	Sad thing is, if in fact these never got packed out and Topps sent them to be graded way back when, people would love to have these as replacements for unfulfilled high-end redemptions, but Topps could never admit they have them (if they have them). They might as well dump them in the Atlantic Ocean.

07-26-2017, 04:10 PM	#9
gabballplayer14 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,598	They are 100% sitting in the desk of a certain Topps employee.

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Bcwcardz Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: West coast Posts: 1,394	The ethics of this company seem questionable at best. It sucks for collectors. Sent from my SM-T350 using Tapatalk

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hofcollector2 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2,869	Wait I thought only Panini screws collectors...