BO seller sent in envelope with stamp - Page 4

Siberian13 · 08-29-2017, 06:21 PM

Neg Neg Neg Neg. if you can't follow the rules

I'm all for NFL players smoking pot but rules are rules

Stifle · 08-29-2017, 08:33 PM

You could always buy a box or packs and hope that the card that you want is in what you spent ? If you didn't pull the card you wanted you then could sell or trade for the card you want. It's easy to critique others until you make the effort to do the same. You saved money by buying what somebody else gambled - Smart.
A pack of cards costs and then divide by how many cards in pack then add the supplies - (soft sleeve & top loader & padded envelope & tape to seal pkg & shipping costs and did they drive to Post office and did this take time out of day to provide service ? It's so much easier to critique than serve.

manutdr16 · 08-29-2017, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stifle

You could always buy a box or packs and hope that the card that you want is in what you spent ? If you didn't pull the card you wanted you then could sell or trade for the card you want. It's easy to critique others until you make the effort to do the same. You saved money by buying what somebody else gambled - Smart.
A pack of cards costs and then divide by how many cards in pack then add the supplies - (soft sleeve & top loader & padded envelope & tape to seal pkg & shipping costs and did they drive to Post office and did this take time out of day to provide service ? It's so much easier to critique than serve.

Let me try to summarize what you're trying to say. You're saying since the seller is serving the community by taking on (and losing) the gamble of buying the box/pack, we should give the seller a break for all the sacrifice he has put in.

Or something like that?

Stifle · 08-29-2017, 10:06 PM

Manutdr16 - what I am saying is that how many times have you busted open boxes and then took the time to make your cards available to the open market ? It's not cheap and its time consuming having a card inventory and selling cards on EBay. I appreciate those who have risked their money by having cards that they make available to the rest of those in the hobby.
Manutdr16, by chance I collect Mike Brown "Chicago Beats / Nebraska Cornhuskers" cards and if you have a player you PC, I would take the time out of my day to help in your quest. Depending on what you collect - Football from 90's to early 2010's I would have a good chance of doing that but other sports may take time.
I would much rather see everyone be involved than critique the few who are helping those of us prosper in our collections. Don't think I will see a Fortune 500 member who deals sports cards ?

hugh · 08-30-2017, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Just leave the guy a negative already. It's what you want to do, right?

No, actually i enjoy posting and discussing various topics on this FORUM to see how other people feel about certain topics. Some people seem to have a problem with discussing things in this FORUM and should just stay in the B/S/T if it bothers them so much. This is not directed at you

goodole13 · 08-30-2017, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hugh

My first thought was to leave positive because the card was undamaged and suggest to him to inform buyers in the future

That's what I would do to.

rman112 · 08-30-2017, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hugh

No, actually i enjoy posting and discussing various topics on this FORUM to see how other people feel about certain topics. Some people seem to have a problem with discussing things in this FORUM and should just stay in the B/S/T if it bothers them so much. This is not directed at you

I hear you. I agree with leaving a positive, and talking to the seller about it, and/or making a comment about it in your feedback (depending on his response). I don't think getting on someone's case to ship better is the worst thing in the world, if it can get them to improve at it.

Also, we are in agreement.. gingerscards cannot read.

Stifle · 08-30-2017, 07:00 AM

Far to easy to negatively critique others when many have never or barely attempted to sell on EBay or Blowout. Purchase some boxes to create a trade flow where both parties have to ship.

Budler · 08-30-2017, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stifle

Manutdr16 - what I am saying is that how many times have you busted open boxes and then took the time to make your cards available to the open market ? It's not cheap and its time consuming having a card inventory and selling cards on EBay. I appreciate those who have risked their money by having cards that they make available to the rest of those in the hobby.
Manutdr16, by chance I collect Mike Brown "Chicago Beats / Nebraska Cornhuskers" cards and if you have a player you PC, I would take the time out of my day to help in your quest. Depending on what you collect - Football from 90's to early 2010's I would have a good chance of doing that but other sports may take time.
I would much rather see everyone be involved than critique the few who are helping those of us prosper in our collections. Don't think I will see a Fortune 500 member who deals sports cards ?

I can tell you that it is hard to find someone like Stifie That is willing to go through their collection and find cards (the no name players). Over the years I have find some real nice guys. A few bad dudes One pulled approx. 12 cards and I ask if he want to trade all or just the ones I needed. He say it was up to me. I traded for 8 of them that I needed. Talked to him last week and ask if he find any more and his reply was "I'm not looking for you any more as you do not take all of them and it is not worth my time." If I know that I would have taken all of them. Way too many of these kind of people.

Trading cards is not the normal any more. Way to many people just throw their "junk" into a box and complain they can not get rid of it.

meandsharon11 · 08-30-2017, 09:33 PM

Any sales under $10 dlvd where you don't specify the shipping arrangements is your risk as a buyer.

manutdr16 · 08-30-2017, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by meandsharon11

Any sales under $10 dlvd where you don't specify the shipping arrangements is your risk as a buyer.

Stop it already people for arbitrarily creating your own rules. As long as trading within BO B/S/T forums, these are the rules to abide by (see rule #2):

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=19

cking · 08-30-2017, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by meandsharon11

Any sales under $10 dlvd where you don't specify the shipping arrangements is your risk as a buyer.

Tell that to paypal and see how you make out

meandsharon11 · 08-31-2017, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by manutdr16

Stop it already people for arbitrarily creating your own rules. As long as trading within BO B/S/T forums, these are the rules to abide by (see rule #2):

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=19

Well it's great you have learned where the rules are located for your own personal reference. I don't need rules to tell me how to conduct business. Common sense tells you to set your own guidelines for a transaction before you agree to it. If you purchase something without that then you are subject to however the shipper sends it. This isn't about tracking. It's about receiving a card in a pwe when he/she clearly expected to receive it in a padded envelope or equivalent. This is business 101; don't pay for anything until you know exactly what you're going to get and how you're going to get it.

meandsharon11 · 08-31-2017, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cking

Tell that to paypal and see how you make out

I never said there was no recourse for the seller doing this. This would be step 2 in the process, but once again the buyer received what was purchased. PayPal won't do anything about someone not liking the way something is shipped.

Wade Mulroy · 08-31-2017, 11:22 AM

I make sure and send my $5 cards in a soft sleeve, toploader, team bag, sandwiched in cardboard, obnoxiously taped, placed in a semi-rigid envelope, then added to a bubble envelope, write "Please do not bend" on the bubble mailer, wrap it in barbed wire, place it in a USPS medium rate box, add packing peanuts, sealed with more tape, insure it for at least $500, add signature confirmation, and make sure the delivery guy makes the recipient solve 3 riddles before the package is handed over. Can't be too safe these days, folks.

manutdr16 · 08-31-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by meandsharon11

If you purchase something without that then you are subject to however the shipper sends it. This isn't about tracking. It's about receiving a card in a pwe when he/she clearly expected to receive it in a padded envelope or equivalent.

While buyer is subject to however seller sends it, seller is subject to forum rules. If sent without tracking, a negative feedback is not unwarranted.

With that said, I agree with you that the OP's gripe isn't about the tracking, but about the PWE. I made the same distinction earlier in this thread. It's just that in practice, tracking is hand-in-hand with bubble mailer.

Since I'm new to BO B/S/T, is it commonplace for folks to send PWE with added tracking($1.05 extra)?

LRV · 08-31-2017, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wade Mulroy

I make sure and send my $5 cards in a soft sleeve, toploader, team bag, sandwiched in cardboard, obnoxiously taped, placed in a semi-rigid envelope, then added to a bubble envelope, write "Please do not bend" on the bubble mailer, wrap it in barbed wire, place it in a USPS medium rate box, add packing peanuts, sealed with more tape, insure it for at least $500, add signature confirmation, and make sure the delivery guy makes the recipient solve 3 riddles before the package is handed over. Can't be too safe these days, folks.

Yeah, but do you do a background check on the USPS carrier?

LCM1223 · 08-31-2017, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wade Mulroy

I make sure and send my $5 cards in a soft sleeve, toploader, team bag, sandwiched in cardboard, obnoxiously taped, placed in a semi-rigid envelope, then added to a bubble envelope, write "Please do not bend" on the bubble mailer, wrap it in barbed wire, place it in a USPS medium rate box, add packing peanuts, sealed with more tape, insure it for at least $500, add signature confirmation, and make sure the delivery guy makes the recipient solve 3 riddles before the package is handed over. Can't be too safe these days, folks.

This had me rolling

Rickey · 08-31-2017, 03:44 PM

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Stifle · 08-31-2017, 09:06 PM

Wade Mulroy - Nice ! I agree with LCM, had me smiling for a few minutes. I see people crossing the street that isn't at a crosswalk but I don't see a police officer doing a Airline takedown drag out !
Manutdr16, yes there are rules but like A. Iverson said it best - it's practice / $5, practice / $5. Not a game / $10 or more but practice / $5. Understand that time is important for everyone and no wait in line - stamped.
Blowout needs members for all ends of transactions not just high end. I'll look for the seller on the cover of Forbes.
Budler, Thank you for reciprocating on our trade and I will search for more cards for you. Has the most amazing / time consuming categorized collection I may ever be shown ! There are other collectors who for years have been needing help in completing their quest. The more understanding that we all can be the more likely a member will B/S/T.

meandsharon11 · 08-31-2017, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by manutdr16

While buyer is subject to however seller sends it, seller is subject to forum rules. If sent without tracking, a negative feedback is not unwarranted.

With that said, I agree with you that the OP's gripe isn't about the tracking, but about the PWE. I made the same distinction earlier in this thread. It's just that in practice, tracking is hand-in-hand with bubble mailer.

Since I'm new to BO B/S/T, is it commonplace for folks to send PWE with added tracking($1.05 extra)?

You can't put tracking on a pwe.

Stifle · 08-31-2017, 09:52 PM

I guess the wait in line, time consuming method for a $5 transaction will only create less members selling lower end cards ? It's already difficult to locate collectors who are willing to reciprocate on lower end deals but now it may be even tougher to locate sellers who will deal commons.
Budler my friend. We may have to start posting pics of our bubble mailers rather than the cards that we receive ? I may send my next bubble mailer to Becket for grading ?

08-29-2017, 08:33 PM	#77
Stifle Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: I've met great collectors throughout MI and N. Indiana / CHI. Posts: 9,334 Stifle	You could always buy a box or packs and hope that the card that you want is in what you spent ? If you didn't pull the card you wanted you then could sell or trade for the card you want. It's easy to critique others until you make the effort to do the same. You saved money by buying what somebody else gambled - Smart. A pack of cards costs and then divide by how many cards in pack then add the supplies - (soft sleeve & top loader & padded envelope & tape to seal pkg & shipping costs and did they drive to Post office and did this take time out of day to provide service ? It's so much easier to critique than serve. Last edited by Stifle; 08-29-2017 at 08:43 PM.

08-30-2017, 09:33 PM	#85
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08-31-2017, 03:44 PM	#94
Rickey Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 484	..... Last edited by Rickey; 11-02-2021 at 10:25 PM.

08-31-2017, 09:06 PM	#95
Stifle Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: I've met great collectors throughout MI and N. Indiana / CHI. Posts: 9,334 Stifle	Wade Mulroy - Nice ! I agree with LCM, had me smiling for a few minutes. I see people crossing the street that isn't at a crosswalk but I don't see a police officer doing a Airline takedown drag out ! Manutdr16, yes there are rules but like A. Iverson said it best - it's practice / $5, practice / $5. Not a game / $10 or more but practice / $5. Understand that time is important for everyone and no wait in line - stamped. Blowout needs members for all ends of transactions not just high end. I'll look for the seller on the cover of Forbes. Budler, Thank you for reciprocating on our trade and I will search for more cards for you. Has the most amazing / time consuming categorized collection I may ever be shown ! There are other collectors who for years have been needing help in completing their quest. The more understanding that we all can be the more likely a member will B/S/T. Last edited by Stifle; 08-31-2017 at 09:21 PM.

08-29-2017, 06:21 PM	#76
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 76,576 shiller13	Neg Neg Neg Neg. if you can't follow the rules I'm all for NFL players smoking pot but rules are rules

08-29-2017, 10:06 PM	#79
Stifle Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: I've met great collectors throughout MI and N. Indiana / CHI. Posts: 9,334 Stifle	Manutdr16 - what I am saying is that how many times have you busted open boxes and then took the time to make your cards available to the open market ? It's not cheap and its time consuming having a card inventory and selling cards on EBay. I appreciate those who have risked their money by having cards that they make available to the rest of those in the hobby. Manutdr16, by chance I collect Mike Brown "Chicago Beats / Nebraska Cornhuskers" cards and if you have a player you PC, I would take the time out of my day to help in your quest. Depending on what you collect - Football from 90's to early 2010's I would have a good chance of doing that but other sports may take time. I would much rather see everyone be involved than critique the few who are helping those of us prosper in our collections. Don't think I will see a Fortune 500 member who deals sports cards ?

08-30-2017, 07:00 AM	#83
Stifle Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: I've met great collectors throughout MI and N. Indiana / CHI. Posts: 9,334 Stifle	Far to easy to negatively critique others when many have never or barely attempted to sell on EBay or Blowout. Purchase some boxes to create a trade flow where both parties have to ship.

08-31-2017, 11:22 AM	#90
Wade Mulroy Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,734	I make sure and send my $5 cards in a soft sleeve, toploader, team bag, sandwiched in cardboard, obnoxiously taped, placed in a semi-rigid envelope, then added to a bubble envelope, write "Please do not bend" on the bubble mailer, wrap it in barbed wire, place it in a USPS medium rate box, add packing peanuts, sealed with more tape, insure it for at least $500, add signature confirmation, and make sure the delivery guy makes the recipient solve 3 riddles before the package is handed over. Can't be too safe these days, folks.

08-31-2017, 09:52 PM	#97
Stifle Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: I've met great collectors throughout MI and N. Indiana / CHI. Posts: 9,334 Stifle	I guess the wait in line, time consuming method for a $5 transaction will only create less members selling lower end cards ? It's already difficult to locate collectors who are willing to reciprocate on lower end deals but now it may be even tougher to locate sellers who will deal commons. Budler my friend. We may have to start posting pics of our bubble mailers rather than the cards that we receive ? I may send my next bubble mailer to Becket for grading ?