Is this 1/1 Nowitzki Buyback Authentic?

barondavis1 · 09-19-2017, 09:14 AM

It's kind of odd to me that there isn't any numbered sticker on the back of the signed card and the signature looks strange too!
what do you think?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dirk-Nowitzk...kAAOSwmhJZtaig

SteveO21 · 09-19-2017, 09:21 AM

I'm gonna guess that it's fake because the COA says the card is from SP, SP Championship or SP Authentic. The card that is signed is from an entirely different product line, UD Black Diamond.

crazy4kinsler · 09-19-2017, 09:26 AM

Upper Deck owns SP So, it's possible they could put UD Buybacks into SP products and vice-versa. There's lots of UD cards that are buybacks that I've seen.

Dobber2330 · 09-19-2017, 09:30 AM

Where is the sticker on the back of the card that matches the COA?

Dobber2330 · 09-19-2017, 09:31 AM

real example of buyback auto:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/02-03-Ultima....c100005.m1851

hairyharold · 09-19-2017, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveO21

I'm gonna guess that it's fake because the COA says the card is from SP, SP Championship or SP Authentic. The card that is signed is from an entirely different product line, UD Black Diamond.

this plus no hologram on the card itself...fake

SteveO21 · 09-19-2017, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

Upper Deck owns SP So, it's possible they could put UD Buybacks into SP products and vice-versa. There's lots of UD cards that are buybacks that I've seen.

We know they own SP, as SP is just a brand UD released. The part that doesn't make sense is that the COA clearly states the card attached to the COA is from either SP, SP Championship or SP Authentic brands. UD Black Diamond was none of those.

Also, the COA states the original card was purchased back from a third-party in 2000. That Black Diamond Game Gear card was inserted into 2000-01 Black Diamond, which wasn't even released until March 2001. How did they purchase a card from a third-party in 2000 that never even got packed out until March 2001?

ras8u · 09-19-2017, 09:40 AM

Its also pretty uncommon that the buyback would be from the same year. Thats hardly a buyback (both cards are 2001 cards). It looks like the buyback of that Dirk would be a 1999 SP card either #/10 or unnumbered.

http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Subsets...ck?PageIndex=1

bjho852 · 09-19-2017, 09:41 AM

I'd also add that Dirk was still signing "full" autographs in 2000-01.

DajuanWagner · 09-19-2017, 11:50 AM

Haven't we already determined that John Elway should stick to football??????

cshelb34687 · 09-19-2017, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dobber2330

Where is the sticker on the back of the card that matches the COA?

This!

hche · 09-19-2017, 01:25 PM

This looks like an authentic buyback from that year.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-01-SP-A...4AAOSw7PJZZWai

The OP one, at the minimum, the cert is not for that card.
1) The cert said the buyback card is from SP, SPA or SP championship. The buyback pictured is a Black diamond card.
2) The card is from the same year as the cert. I don't believe UD do any same year buyback back then.
3) There is no hologram on the card with the matching number.

I have no clue whether the Dirk auto is fake or not but the cert. is definitely not for that card.

cshelb34687 · 09-19-2017, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hche

This looks like an authentic buyback from that year.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-01-SP-A...4AAOSw7PJZZWai

The OP one, at the minimum, the cert is not for that card.
1) The cert said the buyback card is from SP, SPA or SP championship. The buyback pictured is a Black diamond card.
2) The card is from the same year as the cert. I don't believe UD do any same year buyback back then.
3) There is no hologram on the card with the matching number.

I have no clue whether the Dirk auto is fake or not but the cert. is definitely not for that card.

I reported this auction to eBay. Hopefully the auction gets pulled!

jhardy · 09-19-2017, 03:57 PM

The auto doesn't look authentic in my opinion for what it's worth.

Chinowill · 09-19-2017, 10:57 PM

I personally think its fake. Maybe not the seller but I have a feeling the original card got graded and is sitting in his collection and now he faked this and is basically giving up his COA since the original is slabbed. We all know buybacks the coa doesnt get slabbed with the card.

barondavis1 · 09-20-2017, 09:47 AM

I also reported him.
This is bad for our hobby!

09-19-2017, 09:14 AM	#1
barondavis1 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Germany Darmstadt Posts: 836	Is this 1/1 Nowitzki Buyback Authentic? It's kind of odd to me that there isn't any numbered sticker on the back of the signed card and the signature looks strange too! what do you think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dirk-Nowitzk...kAAOSwmhJZtaig

09-19-2017, 09:26 AM	#3
crazy4kinsler Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 16,499	Upper Deck owns SP So, it's possible they could put UD Buybacks into SP products and vice-versa. There's lots of UD cards that are buybacks that I've seen. __________________ Twitter & Instagram: @et_cardcollectr Just created a new Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=et_cardcollectr

09-19-2017, 09:30 AM	#4
Dobber2330 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 3,567 cardsbydoby	Where is the sticker on the back of the card that matches the COA? __________________ Please note - I do not PM people who have interest in cards as very few people ever return such PM's. All cards are for sale and if you are interested in anything please feel free to send over a PM with an offer. PM's that say, "How much is XXX" or "What is your best price on XXX" without an offer will not be returned.

09-19-2017, 09:31 AM	#5
Dobber2330 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 3,567 cardsbydoby	real example of buyback auto: http://www.ebay.com/itm/02-03-Ultima....c100005.m1851 __________________ Please note - I do not PM people who have interest in cards as very few people ever return such PM's. All cards are for sale and if you are interested in anything please feel free to send over a PM with an offer. PM's that say, "How much is XXX" or "What is your best price on XXX" without an offer will not be returned.

09-19-2017, 09:41 AM	#9
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,213	I'd also add that Dirk was still signing "full" autographs in 2000-01. __________________ Instagram (IG): bjho852

09-19-2017, 09:21 AM	#2
SteveO21 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: near the cards Posts: 10,810 vintagepacers Steve_O_21	I'm gonna guess that it's fake because the COA says the card is from SP, SP Championship or SP Authentic. The card that is signed is from an entirely different product line, UD Black Diamond.

09-19-2017, 09:40 AM	#8
ras8u Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: bloomington, in. Posts: 273 ras8u	Its also pretty uncommon that the buyback would be from the same year. Thats hardly a buyback (both cards are 2001 cards). It looks like the buyback of that Dirk would be a 1999 SP card either #/10 or unnumbered. http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Subsets...ck?PageIndex=1

09-19-2017, 11:50 AM	#10
DajuanWagner Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 7,426	Haven't we already determined that John Elway should stick to football??????

09-19-2017, 01:25 PM	#12
hche Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,300	This looks like an authentic buyback from that year. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-01-SP-A...4AAOSw7PJZZWai The OP one, at the minimum, the cert is not for that card. 1) The cert said the buyback card is from SP, SPA or SP championship. The buyback pictured is a Black diamond card. 2) The card is from the same year as the cert. I don't believe UD do any same year buyback back then. 3) There is no hologram on the card with the matching number. I have no clue whether the Dirk auto is fake or not but the cert. is definitely not for that card. __________________ I would ban you but I have no sway or pull here.

09-19-2017, 03:57 PM	#14
jhardy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bartlett, TN Posts: 586 jhardycards jhardycards	The auto doesn't look authentic in my opinion for what it's worth. __________________ Instagram: jhardycards NBA HOF Rookie Auto PC: https://flic.kr/s/aHskVV9ttg

09-19-2017, 10:57 PM	#15
Chinowill Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 162	I personally think its fake. Maybe not the seller but I have a feeling the original card got graded and is sitting in his collection and now he faked this and is basically giving up his COA since the original is slabbed. We all know buybacks the coa doesnt get slabbed with the card.

09-20-2017, 09:47 AM	#16
barondavis1 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Germany Darmstadt Posts: 836	I also reported him. This is bad for our hobby!