Giannis "The Greak Freak" Antetokounmpo Thread - Page 20

HP7163 · 10-23-2017, 10:06 PM

PM'd you Chipz if get chance to reply tonight I'd appreciate it

Duvalier · 10-23-2017, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mrchipz

at least 2-1 maybe 3-1 rarer. yes the prizm silver is much more sp.

Thanks. Where do you find that information?

daeve · 10-23-2017, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JacobCYE

I just bought the orange gem off the bay for $2,035... I'm a little disturbed right now but hey its only money right.

Honestly with how its going right now that sounds like a decent buy.

JacobCYE · 10-23-2017, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by daeve

Honestly with how its going right now that sounds like a decent buy.

I hope so. I'm fairly new into the basketball card market and felt it was now or never for me.

mrchipz · 10-23-2017, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier

Thanks. Where do you find that information?

pack odds, being apart of over 30 cases of prizm busted and opening about 3 cases of select and following the market and pop reports

yiguiri2002 · 10-23-2017, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mrchipz

that is 100% false.
the red border is a rare card and like all color hoops they are very condition sensitive cause of the color borders and the centering.
i have been trying to find a bgs 9.5 candidate one for over a year.
i bought 2 that looked gem 7 months ago paid $31 & $30 for them raw each. sent 1 to bgs and it only came back a 9. sold it on ebay a few months ago for $56 for a bgs 9.

so that card was never $5 - $10, ever.

the red border is a target exclusive, blue border from walmart. they are both ssp.
the gold is also sp as well. they were not as easy as you think to pull with that big of a checklist. also finding a well centered clean version of any color is next to impossible. look at the bgs pop report.

I think you are right about the time frame: those weren't 5-10 a year ago. But they were at some point in single digits. Just like the Red Prizm was (although that was a really, really long time ago).

Also, notice that the original question was made regarding a raw Hoops red and not a graded one.

yiguiri2002 · 10-23-2017, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HP7163

How rare is the select blue & purple prizm ?

49 and 99 respectively. IMO, Purple looks much nicer.

HP7163 · 10-23-2017, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

49 and 99 respectively. IMO, Purple looks much nicer.

Agree the purple just pops An meshes better IMO with the redish bucks jersey

deemsterz33 · 10-23-2017, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stackfan

By that logic giannis seems silver Prizm should be like over 5 times more valuable than Durant since there is like 1500 Durant refractors and only 200-300 giannis Silver.

Maybe Chrome’s Quality control wasn’t that good.

Honestly, I'm not usually one to try to gauge value simply off population or print run numbers, especially when it comes to different cards from different manufacturers in different years. It's really all about what people want and don't want. With the way these prices are heading we could see 2-3x Giannis Prizm Silver prices over Durant Chrome Refs. 2007 was a pretty junky year for Chrome for sure.

pejc300 · 10-23-2017, 10:40 PM

For the new generation of collectors, this is what it was like during Vinsanity. The market goes absolutely bananas, and then 10 years later you make threads about it saying, "remember those crazy Giannis years when dudes were paying $2,000 for an orange prizm!!! I just got one the other day for $45."

I love this though, it's so good for the hobby.

Duvalier · 10-23-2017, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mrchipz

pack odds, being apart of over 30 cases of prizm busted and opening about 3 cases of select and following the market and pop reports

I looked at the pop reports and they seem very even.

mrchipz · 10-23-2017, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier

I looked at the pop reports and they seem very even.

thats cause not a lot of people graded the select cause it was never worth as much.
in a select box that year it had 14 packs and you got 6 silver prizms. they pretty much were 1:2 packs.
in prizm they are much more sp.
in prizm you got 20 pcks per box and only 5 prizms per box making them 1:4 packs and the rookies were short printed. you usually got 1 rookie silver prizm per 1-2 boxes.

daeve · 10-23-2017, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

For the new generation of collectors, this is what it was like during Vinsanity. The market goes absolutely bananas, and then 10 years later you make threads about it saying, "remember those crazy Giannis years when dudes were paying $2,000 for an orange prizm!!! I just got one the other day for $45."

I love this though, it's so good for the hobby.

Was VC's SP going for like $2K though? And that's out of 3500. Giannis' rare stuff has plenty of room to grow.

titletowncards · 10-23-2017, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JacobCYE

I just bought the orange gem off the bay for $2,035... I'm a little disturbed right now but hey its only money right.

Love the Orange one!

Adamlp41 · 10-23-2017, 10:49 PM

Would the prizm to select prizm print runs balance if select was printed in much lower quantity? Could that be a possibility?

mrchipz · 10-23-2017, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

For the new generation of collectors, this is what it was like during Vinsanity. The market goes absolutely bananas, and then 10 years later you make threads about it saying, "remember those crazy Giannis years when dudes were paying $2,000 for an orange prizm!!! I just got one the other day for $45."

I love this though, it's so good for the hobby.

will never EVER happeen.
i was around in those times collecting.
the vince carter card was pure manipulation. i mean there are 3500 of them!!
should have never been that high.
there are 65 giannis orange prizms.
there are 49 giannis purple prizms
there are like 250 silver prizms
way different ball game

yiguiri2002 · 10-23-2017, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mrchipz

thats cause not a lot of people graded the select cause it was never worth as much.
in a select box that year it had 14 packs and you got 6 silver prizms. they pretty much were 1:2 packs.
in prizm they are much more sp.
in prizm you got 20 pcks per box and only 5 prizms per box making them 1:4 packs and the rookies were short printed. you usually got 1 rookie silver prizm per 1-2 boxes.

You need to include Jumbo Boxes too. I think Prizm has a shorter print but the gap is not as wide.

Also, given the odds, you should have gotten 1 rookie prizm every 2 boxes. I don't think they were SP compared to the other cards.

yiguiri2002 · 10-23-2017, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

For the new generation of collectors, this is what it was like during Vinsanity. The market goes absolutely bananas, and then 10 years later you make threads about it saying, "remember those crazy Giannis years when dudes were paying $2,000 for an orange prizm!!! I just got one the other day for $45."

I love this though, it's so good for the hobby.

I'll also add that Vince never put MVP-like numbers. He was a great player but Giannis production is on another level.

mrchipz · 10-23-2017, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I think you are right about the time frame: those weren't 5-10 a year ago. But they were at some point in single digits. Just like the Red Prizm was (although that was a really, really long time ago).

Also, notice that the original question was made regarding a raw Hoops red and not a graded one.

the prices i paid for $30 and $31 were for raw cards. i also seen others sell in that range as well raw with bad centering. i then sent one to bgs to get graded that i thought should have been a 9.5 that came back a 9 and sold it cause i want a 9.5 rainbow.

bewareof94 · 10-23-2017, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

You need to include Jumbo Boxes too. I think Prizm has a shorter print but the gap is not as wide.

Also, given the odds, you should have gotten 1 rookie prizm every 2 boxes. I don't think they were SP compared to the other cards.

Silver prizms in jumbo boxes were maybe 1 per box, if that. You can go watch breaks on YouTube, some jumbos had 1 silver, others didnt

deemsterz33 · 10-23-2017, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I'll also add that Vince never put MVP-like numbers. He was a great player but Giannis production is on another level.

This.

houdini · 10-23-2017, 10:57 PM

I hit the RC logoman auto (I think Immaculate). When I posted on twitter that the chatroom thought it was a $10k card, the twitterverse mocked me quite a bit.

I know it was then sold on eBay for $10k+ shortly afterwards.

mrchipz · 10-23-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

You need to include Jumbo Boxes too. I think Prizm has a shorter print but the gap is not as wide.

Also, given the odds, you should have gotten 1 rookie prizm every 2 boxes. I don't think they were SP compared to the other cards.

well i can tell you that i saw over 30 prizm cases broken and over 10 jumbos and i seen 1 total giannis silver prizm pulled. is the select prizm a rare card yes no doubt. but its not "as" rare as the prizm. it is still a very undervalued card imo cause it is a rare card still.

yiguiri2002 · 10-23-2017, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mrchipz

the prices i paid for $30 and $31 were for raw cards. i also seen others sell in that range as well raw with bad centering. i then sent one to bgs to get graded that i thought should have been a 9.5 that came back a 9 and sold it cause i want a 9.5 rainbow.

When was this? I paid 2 bucks for a Gold and like 5 for the Base plus the Blue. I don't remember how much the Red cost me (or if I even bought it) but it wasn't that far behind. And that was about 2 years ago.

JacobCYE · 10-23-2017, 11:02 PM

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there are 65 giannis orange prizms.

There are 60 on the orange.

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pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,715	For the new generation of collectors, this is what it was like during Vinsanity. The market goes absolutely bananas, and then 10 years later you make threads about it saying, "remember those crazy Giannis years when dudes were paying $2,000 for an orange prizm!!! I just got one the other day for $45." I love this though, it's so good for the hobby.

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Adamlp41 Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,071	Would the prizm to select prizm print runs balance if select was printed in much lower quantity? Could that be a possibility?