Matheny fired!

Wrigs37 · 07-14-2018, 10:16 PM

Discuss...

The Cardinals just got a lot better imo.

seabass97166 · 07-14-2018, 10:19 PM

Long time coming. One of the worst in game managers.

Now the Nats need to fire Dave Martinez, he is by far the worst I have ever seen

pskell02 · 07-14-2018, 10:21 PM

Rather have him than Hurdle as the coach.

trixstar · 07-14-2018, 10:24 PM

Cardinals gonna be sellers?

Wrigs37 · 07-14-2018, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pskell02

Rather have him than Hurdle as the coach.

Aren’t they pretty close to the same guy? At least wihen it comes to the “old school way” unwritten rules of baseball enforcing, tough guy schtick...

Americards · 07-14-2018, 10:31 PM

Boring

babybull · 07-14-2018, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrigs37

Discuss...

The Cardinals just got a lot better imo.

You bet they did.

packman80 · 07-14-2018, 10:35 PM

Does the crypt keeper come out of retirement to coach them again?

SeanieTheMan · 07-14-2018, 10:43 PM

Hitting coach John Mabry and assistant hitting coach Bill Mueller have also been let go, and bench coach Mike Shildt will serve as interim manager for the time being

HeritageKing · 07-14-2018, 10:53 PM

What have you done for me lately.

texmcpherson · 07-14-2018, 11:10 PM

Dude has sucked for a long time, this should have happened years ago. I’m not complaining though

Soonerfan65 · 07-14-2018, 11:21 PM

As a Cubs fan im sad to see him go.

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randomh · 07-14-2018, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Soonerfan65

As a Cubs fan im sad to see him go.

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Nailed it.

Peties Army · 07-15-2018, 12:01 AM

It was just a matter of time. Lots of internal fighting within this team, very little doubt that the story the other day about Norris was leaked from inside, but what I’d bet really did him in? Molina didn’t like him.

bobthewondercat · 07-15-2018, 01:45 AM

Finally!!

trask7 · 07-15-2018, 05:13 AM

This was a few years too late. He was handed a very good team and just kept getting in his own way. I like an old mentality...if it wins. They were just saying how Norris was giving Hicks a hard time. I know Hicks has to mature but younger guys react differently to old school leadership. I am not a huge Joe Maddon fan but I respect how he gets guys to buy in.

Baseball has a rich history but it is evolving and if a manager can’t do it, then he has to go.

Pixman1 · 07-15-2018, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by trask7

This was a few years too late. He was handed a very good team and just kept getting in his own way. I like an old mentality...if it wins. They were just saying how Norris was giving Hicks a hard time. I know Hicks has to mature but younger guys react differently to old school leadership. I am not a huge Joe Maddon fan but I respect how he gets guys to buy in.

Baseball has a rich history but it is evolving and if a manager can’t do it, then he has to go.

You should read the follow up article on the Athletic. Sounds like this was more media hype than a young guy being hazed. Also, other players on other teams are backing Norris as a good guy. Don’t blindly believe everything the media puts out for clicks.

roro17 · 07-15-2018, 08:46 AM

Molina will be coaching them soon enough.

Stech36 · 07-15-2018, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by roro17

Molina will be coaching them soon enough.

First player coach in 50 years? It can’t really be done at this point, but I think it would be a cool novelty.

Pearce77 · 07-15-2018, 09:31 AM

"Firing a manager with a winning record during the season is rare for any team. The last time it happened was in 2008, when the Milwaukee Brewers fired Ned Yost during a late-season slump (only to recover and make the playoffs)." - ESPN

Peties Army · 07-15-2018, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pearce77

"Firing a manager with a winning record during the season is rare for any team. The last time it happened was in 2008, when the Milwaukee Brewers fired Ned Yost during a late-season slump (only to recover and make the playoffs)." - ESPN

I was thinking he has to have one if the highest winning % ever for a coach who has gotten fired.

hatchd · 07-15-2018, 11:03 AM

I don't know a single Cards fan that is upset with this. I think he gets more blame than he should, but he just isn't a good manager. His daily inspirational texts would probably work a little better in A ball.

texmcpherson · 07-15-2018, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pixman1

You should read the follow up article on the Athletic. Sounds like this was more media hype than a young guy being hazed. Also, other players on other teams are backing Norris as a good guy. Don’t blindly believe everything the media puts out for clicks.

We'll if you believed the follow up article wouldn't you be blindly believing everything the media puts out for views?

If it was reported there must be some truth to it. I don't think anyone would disbelieve it after the crap show that's going on this season. Somewhere Dexter Fowler is throwing a party.

Pixman1 · 07-15-2018, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by texmcpherson

We'll if you believed the follow up article wouldn't you be blindly believing everything the media puts out for views?

If it was reported there must be some truth to it. I don't think anyone would disbelieve it after the crap show that's going on this season. Somewhere Dexter Fowler is throwing a party.

Follow up articles with responses from parties involved in an original article have more credibility yes. It provides context. I guess you feel the media is impartial and has no agenda. Regularly I see some article involving some veteran supposedly doing or saying mean things to a rookie. It’s usually much ado about nothing and written to stoke clicks. It triggers people.

rman112 · 07-15-2018, 12:19 PM

Hazing is one of the stupidest traditions in sports.

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trask7 Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 2,273	This was a few years too late. He was handed a very good team and just kept getting in his own way. I like an old mentality...if it wins. They were just saying how Norris was giving Hicks a hard time. I know Hicks has to mature but younger guys react differently to old school leadership. I am not a huge Joe Maddon fan but I respect how he gets guys to buy in. Baseball has a rich history but it is evolving and if a manager can’t do it, then he has to go.

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hatchd Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,692	I don't know a single Cards fan that is upset with this. I think he gets more blame than he should, but he just isn't a good manager. His daily inspirational texts would probably work a little better in A ball.

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