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Old 03-01-2019, 03:13 PM   #1301
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There's a little dot above Giannis' left shoulder. That's why.



Congrats on the card. Given the latest prices on the PSA 10s, I think you got a hell of a deal.


A lot of Giannis Silvers have the dot in that spot. Just a few weeks ago at the Tristar I saw a few of them all graded Gem with that spot.


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Old 03-01-2019, 03:20 PM   #1302
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I can’t see the dot. But if it’s a chrome surface dot, those don’t affect the surface grade unless they splay.
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:22 PM   #1303
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Prices already slowing down. He needs a monster game on ESPN tonight!
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:22 PM   #1304
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The possible MVP is definitely baked into the current prices, but I do believe there is room for continued rise on a good playoff run. He hasn’t had that in his career yet, and a lot of the attention his cards are getting I think have to do with him being “NEXT”. A first real playoff run or especially showing in the ECF/Finals will play to that narative. This will separate him from players like Anthony Davis.

And there seems to be something different with how the hobby feels about him compared to players like Harden and Durant. Durant especially has the hardware and championships, yet we (collectively) don’t want to anoint him the next face of the league. That title is Lebron’s. And we thought for a minute there that Curry was about to take that (that’s when his stuff really went bonkers).

I think a lot of the interest we are seeing is not only in anticipation of him being MVP, but him being the next face of the league. And if that unfolds into reality, then truly sky IS the limit (aka Lebron prices)... National Treasures, Immaculate and Flawless are already astronomical.

I think this is a solid point that a lot of people are underestimating or not even considering - the "likability" factor of Giannis.

We all know about the all-star votes, but now that he's getting a lot more national media attention, the stories about him, especially earlier in his career are coming out, such as how he was sending almost all of his money back to his family in Greece and how he was ready to quit the NBA and move back to Greece if his family didn't get green cards. Dude just seems like a real down-to-earth guy that values family and works extremely hard.

I've seen criticisms of Giannis & his game, mostly around his jump shot (which is improving by leaps and bounds) but I haven't really seen a lot of people make negative comments about him otherwise. The same can't be said about Durant, Harden, Westbrook, hell even Lebron who have a ton of people out there that dislike them and/or the way they play for a myriad of reasons.
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:25 PM   #1305
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I have a small stash of Giannis that I bought in very early on...nothing big though...no RPA's. I have some base Prizm which are going through the roof now, an NT on card Greece rookie auto /60 because I liked the aesthetics of if, and a couple Select rookie purple Prizms (Draft Edition). The one I do have that I'm not sure where it will rank is the retro PMG red. I have two copies that I'm planning on passing down to my two youngest boys. D Rose is and always will be my favorite player, but Giannis has become my 2nd....

As for auto patch cards, I have been picking up a few 2nd and 3rd year cards as I feel that in time those are going to explode as his Rookie RPA's and autos become untouchable for the average collector....plus I love the idea of having a card with game worn material versus player worn....it's a no brainer for me considering the pricing differences.

I have 5 kids, but only my two youngest will appreciate cards, so they will be the recipient of some very nice stuff from me
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:39 PM   #1306
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I have a small stash of Giannis that I bought in very early on...nothing big though...no RPA's. I have some base Prizm which are going through the roof now, an NT on card Greece rookie auto /60 because I liked the aesthetics of if, and a couple Select rookie purple Prizms (Draft Edition). The one I do have that I'm not sure where it will rank is the retro PMG red. I have two copies that I'm planning on passing down to my two youngest boys. D Rose is and always will be my favorite player, but Giannis has become my 2nd....

As for auto patch cards, I have been picking up a few 2nd and 3rd year cards as I feel that in time those are going to explode as his Rookie RPA's and autos become untouchable for the average collector....plus I love the idea of having a card with game worn material versus player worn....it's a no brainer for me considering the pricing differences.

I have 5 kids, but only my two youngest will appreciate cards, so they will be the recipient of some very nice stuff from me
I'm a fan on the Retro PMG as well. It seems that after some time went by, people are embracing the Retro cards. I know of a couple of BO members who are hoarding certain players.
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:41 PM   #1307
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I'm a fan on the Retro PMG as well. It seems that after some time went by, people are embracing the Retro cards. I know of a couple of BO members who are hoarding certain players.
The look of this card is amazing!
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:42 PM   #1308
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I'm a fan on the Retro PMG as well. It seems that after some time went by, people are embracing the Retro cards. I know of a couple of BO members who are hoarding certain players.
Retro's swing has been unreal. It started hotter than fire then dropped through the floor and it's definitely made a resurgence in the past few years.
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Old 03-01-2019, 04:54 PM   #1309
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My two newest Giannis RC's. Thank you, PSA!

RC Auto /499 - Pop 9
Giannis Court Kings RC Auto 499 PSA 10 by Rick Shinn, on Flickr


RC /199 - Pop 14
Giannis Prizm Light Blue RC 199 PSA 10 1 by Rick Shinn, on Flickr
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:06 PM   #1310
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Prices already slowing down. He needs a monster game on ESPN tonight!
Maybe not, just sold 4 x Prizm PSA 10 for $1100 ($275 per) and it was paid for.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:18 PM   #1311
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I have a small stash of Giannis that I bought in very early on...nothing big though...no RPA's. I have some base Prizm which are going through the roof now, an NT on card Greece rookie auto /60 because I liked the aesthetics of if, and a couple Select rookie purple Prizms (Draft Edition). The one I do have that I'm not sure where it will rank is the retro PMG red. I have two copies that I'm planning on passing down to my two youngest boys. D Rose is and always will be my favorite player, but Giannis has become my 2nd....

As for auto patch cards, I have been picking up a few 2nd and 3rd year cards as I feel that in time those are going to explode as his Rookie RPA's and autos become untouchable for the average collector....plus I love the idea of having a card with game worn material versus player worn....it's a no brainer for me considering the pricing differences.

I have 5 kids, but only my two youngest will appreciate cards, so they will be the recipient of some very nice stuff from me
Those NT /60 are awesome. Picked up a 2012 Exquisite XRC BGS 9.5 back in the day instead of one of those and kind of regretting it now. Still a nice card, but not going to appreciate like the NT.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:26 PM   #1312
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My two newest Giannis RC's. Thank you, PSA!

RC Auto /499 - Pop 9
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That is a nice looking card!
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:36 PM   #1313
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Some Monster Giannis cards listed today on eBay via Probstein.


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Old 03-01-2019, 05:40 PM   #1314
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Wow good eye! In your experience does that knock down the surface grade 1.5 points - it's only visible when light shines just right.

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I can’t see the dot. But if it’s a chrome surface dot, those don’t affect the surface grade unless they splay.
Now I think it's common knowledge. But a few years ago, it wasn't. They all have the same problem yet you can find grades between 9.5 and 7.5. That's why I think that card is a steal - it's like a "soft" 9.5 for a few hundreds more than a raw.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:51 PM   #1315
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Now I think it's common knowledge. But a few years ago, it wasn't. They all have the same problem yet you can find grades between 9.5 and 7.5. That's why I think that card is a steal - it's like a "soft" 9.5 for a few hundreds more than a raw.
Would the recommendation be to crack and submit to PSA or BGS?

And according to the serial number this was graded 1/29/18.

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Old 03-01-2019, 06:41 PM   #1316
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My two newest Giannis RC's. Thank you, PSA!

RC Auto /499 - Pop 9
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RC /199 - Pop 14
Giannis Prizm Light Blue RC 199 PSA 10 1 by Rick Shinn, on Flickr
Beauthiful cards Rick!!!! I have the Blue die cut Prizm in blue as well BGS 9.5....you don't wanna know what I paid for this back in 2014...it was less than 50.00!
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Old 03-01-2019, 06:45 PM   #1317
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An absolute monster just got listed.

2013 exquisite blue auto /3 PSA 10

I thought my /7 was the only gem copy out there. This one is NUTS.
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Old 03-01-2019, 06:57 PM   #1318
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Would the recommendation be to crack and submit to PSA or BGS?

And according to the serial number this was graded 1/29/18.

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That's a tough one. I'll say yes just because the risk/reward of it makes it worthy. But you'll be better off asking someone who's had more experience that I do when it comes to grading cards.

FWIW, I'm cracking my 8.5 (Surface 7.5) and resending it to BGS in the next few weeks.
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Old 03-01-2019, 07:02 PM   #1319
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This isn't a monster, but just so nice in hand.
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Old 03-02-2019, 02:20 AM   #1320
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this is a very nice looking card. love the design

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Old 03-02-2019, 07:06 AM   #1321
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So I guess a Gold Prizm Auto RC from Giannis is now better and more expensive than a Fleer RC Jordan PSA 10... What a time we live in!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Panini...p2047675.l2557
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Old 03-02-2019, 07:27 AM   #1322
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So I guess a Gold Prizm Auto RC from Giannis is now better and more expensive than a Fleer RC Jordan PSA 10... What a time we live in!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Panini...p2047675.l2557
If MJ had a card like that it could be worth $500,000

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Old 03-02-2019, 07:30 AM   #1323
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So I guess a Gold Prizm Auto RC from Giannis is now better and more expensive than a Fleer RC Jordan PSA 10... What a time we live in!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Panini...p2047675.l2557
See if it gets paid for. The last time it was up it didn't.
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Old 03-02-2019, 10:05 AM   #1324
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Does anyone have an insight on the value of the 2013 Prizm Gold Giannis in relation to the Gold Auto?

Would it be considered more valuable than the auto, less valuable, by how much?
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Old 03-02-2019, 01:22 PM   #1325
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So I guess a Gold Prizm Auto RC from Giannis is now better and more expensive than a Fleer RC Jordan PSA 10... What a time we live in!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Panini...p2047675.l2557
Amazing a sticker sells for $22K. How in the world has an Exquisite on card true rookie parallel /3 not sold for $18K in a PSA 10 holder?

I'm baffled.
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