Some advice needed for this Jordan Star

daviswr7 · 04-12-2019, 02:25 PM

Customer brought this in. So this has been trimmed. Customer has the set. I measured it and it’s about 1/8” short on the bottom. My question is value. What’s this going for in it’s trimmed and current state? He wants to sell. And I want to make a decent offer.

Looking for advice from the community in value. Thanks guys!

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MJGOAT23 · 04-13-2019, 10:33 AM

I'd guess 2500? What I don't understand is why it didn't get slabbed as Authentic/Altered?

pejc300 · 04-13-2019, 10:50 AM

You should have taken a picture with BNC and shared it with us.

Dobber2330 · 04-13-2019, 10:51 AM

Does the set measure the same as the Jordan? If it does it might just be a factory miscut and not altered. Won't help it get graded but at least you would know it is not tampered with.

daviswr7 · 04-13-2019, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dobber2330

Does the set measure the same as the Jordan? If it does it might just be a factory miscut and not altered. Won't help it get graded but at least you would know it is not tampered with.

I measured the set. It’s a cluster. Some measure same as the MJ and some measure up but most measured short. He bought the pack sealed and opened it back in the 80s so he’s the original owner. That’s what he says.

He sent the card to Beckett back in 2015, he also had a lovely 86 fleer rookie bgs 8.5

daviswr7 · 04-13-2019, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MJGOAT23

I'd guess 2500? What I don't understand is why it didn't get slabbed as Authentic/Altered?

Good question. Not sure what his peramiters were when sending it in. He sent it in with a bunch of other 80s rookies for grading. All the others graded out. Did u have to specify to Beckett that even if a card is trimmed that you still want it slabbed?

I was under the impression that you needed to specify that otherwise they just send it back like shown above with the reason given why it wasn’t graded...

DajuanWagner · 04-13-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

You should have taken a picture with BNC and shared it with us.

Card is trimmed and the customer who brought it in is from Utah??? Hmmmmmmm.....

daviswr7 · 04-13-2019, 11:45 AM

Owning an authentic but altered copy is as close as I’m gonna get (for the moment) to owning the unaltered one. Not a lot of auction results to work with here. If anyone has any other opinions on value as the card sits currently, id be interested in hearing them. Thx

hxcmilkshake · 04-13-2019, 12:50 PM

I think 2k. I would hold out for a lower grade for a few hundred more.

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jesperson6 · 04-13-2019, 01:50 PM

Agree on the 2k Topps. The slabbed ones have gone anywhere from 1800-2100. Some trim jobs look much worse so that would probably go towards higher end of scale

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daviswr7 · 04-13-2019, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jesperson6

Agree on the 2k Topps. The slabbed ones have gone anywhere from 1800-2100. Some trim jobs look much worse so that would probably go towards higher end of scale

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Thanks guys!

Giantrobot · 04-13-2019, 03:24 PM

I had an 83-84 Star All-Rookie Dominique Wilkins come back as altered, yet I pulled it from the bag myself. It’s a shame if you are trying to sell, but a good way of getting a genuine card for way less.

Dontom · 04-13-2019, 05:58 PM

I'd pass on the altered card and use that money towards a unaltered one. You should be able to find a BGS 4 around that price range. I know a 4 is not the greatest grade but in my opinion I would rather have that then a card that has been trimmed.

6celtics33 · 04-13-2019, 06:02 PM

Being short top to bottom doesn’t mean it’s trimmed. You could send it back and it could get graded. Many of the Jordan’s came out short due to their position on the sheet. That’s what caused the diamond cuts.

6celtics33 · 04-13-2019, 06:07 PM

About 20 questions down

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daviswr7 · 04-14-2019, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

About 20 questions down

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Great info there, thx for that sir!

biggieruth · 04-14-2019, 06:39 PM

I have a Star Michael Jordan Rookie am sending in with a few cards to BGS soon. I did a little research on the counterfeit Jordans and what to look for. I also bought a few counterfeits too compare it to. The one that I think is original colour is a little off seem like it was left out under lights or its a older counterfeit nobody haven't seen yet.

ehp6737 · 04-15-2019, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by biggieruth

I have a Star Michael Jordan Rookie am sending in with a few cards to BGS soon. I did a little research on the counterfeit Jordans and what to look for. I also bought a few counterfeits too compare it to. The one that I think is original colour is a little off seem like it was left out under lights or its a older counterfeit nobody haven't seen yet.

All 3 of those are fakes

04-12-2019, 02:25 PM	#1
daviswr7 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dagobah Posts: 7,548	Some advice needed for this Jordan Star Customer brought this in. So this has been trimmed. Customer has the set. I measured it and it’s about 1/8” short on the bottom. My question is value. What’s this going for in it’s trimmed and current state? He wants to sell. And I want to make a decent offer. Looking for advice from the community in value. Thanks guys! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-13-2019, 10:51 AM	#4
Dobber2330 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 3,569 cardsbydoby	Does the set measure the same as the Jordan? If it does it might just be a factory miscut and not altered. Won't help it get graded but at least you would know it is not tampered with. __________________ Please note - I do not PM people who have interest in cards as very few people ever return such PM's. All cards are for sale and if you are interested in anything please feel free to send over a PM with an offer. PM's that say, "How much is XXX" or "What is your best price on XXX" without an offer will not be returned.

04-14-2019, 06:39 PM	#17
biggieruth Banned Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Raleigh N.C. Posts: 1,720 dolomitebiggie biggieruth	I have a Star Michael Jordan Rookie am sending in with a few cards to BGS soon. I did a little research on the counterfeit Jordans and what to look for. I also bought a few counterfeits too compare it to. The one that I think is original colour is a little off seem like it was left out under lights or its a older counterfeit nobody haven't seen yet. Last edited by biggieruth; 01-11-2023 at 03:06 PM.

04-13-2019, 10:33 AM	#2
MJGOAT23 Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 2,969 djhoog23	I'd guess 2500? What I don't understand is why it didn't get slabbed as Authentic/Altered?

04-13-2019, 10:50 AM	#3
pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,841	You should have taken a picture with BNC and shared it with us.

04-13-2019, 11:45 AM	#8
daviswr7 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dagobah Posts: 7,548	Owning an authentic but altered copy is as close as I’m gonna get (for the moment) to owning the unaltered one. Not a lot of auction results to work with here. If anyone has any other opinions on value as the card sits currently, id be interested in hearing them. Thx

04-13-2019, 12:50 PM	#9
hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,600 hxcmilkshake	I think 2k. I would hold out for a lower grade for a few hundred more. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

04-13-2019, 01:50 PM	#10
jesperson6 Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 182	Agree on the 2k Topps. The slabbed ones have gone anywhere from 1800-2100. Some trim jobs look much worse so that would probably go towards higher end of scale Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-13-2019, 03:24 PM	#12
Giantrobot Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,844	I had an 83-84 Star All-Rookie Dominique Wilkins come back as altered, yet I pulled it from the bag myself. It’s a shame if you are trying to sell, but a good way of getting a genuine card for way less.

04-13-2019, 05:58 PM	#13
Dontom Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Chicago area Posts: 247	I'd pass on the altered card and use that money towards a unaltered one. You should be able to find a BGS 4 around that price range. I know a 4 is not the greatest grade but in my opinion I would rather have that then a card that has been trimmed.

04-13-2019, 06:02 PM	#14
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,313	Being short top to bottom doesn’t mean it’s trimmed. You could send it back and it could get graded. Many of the Jordan’s came out short due to their position on the sheet. That’s what caused the diamond cuts.

04-13-2019, 06:07 PM	#15
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,313	About 20 questions down http://basketballgold.com/faqs.php