BGS Black Labels, Joe Clemons (eBay ID: wjc75056), and Illegitimate Grading - Page 2

azbaseballfan · 05-31-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WJCIII

I'll have a detailed response, with facts, in the next couple of hours. Stay tuned!

Topcat79 · 05-31-2019, 09:55 AM

I always thought Beckett needed better quality control. Their grading standards are all over the place it seems. But what do you expect from the company that inflated card prices in the 90s and helped create the bubble.

KhalDrogo · 05-31-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WJCIII

I'll have a detailed response, with facts, in the next couple of hours. Stay tuned!

Looking forward to it. You’re toast dude.

chezball · 05-31-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

All the popcorn in the world, I need it now.

fenwaykid · 05-31-2019, 09:55 AM

This guy should be banned from the site. Add his name to the list of scammers/fraudsters and somebody get this infront of BGS.

mattglet · 05-31-2019, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by fenwaykid

This guy should be banned from the site. Add his name to the list of scammers/fraudsters and somebody get this infront of BGS.

Not yet, we need to see his response.

I only pull for · 05-31-2019, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WJCIII

I'll have a detailed response, with facts, in the next couple of hours. Stay tuned!

Please do not include photos of reach-arounds you give Jeromy Murray.

3124508 on COMC · 05-31-2019, 09:58 AM

It's literally in the OP. lol

https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30

I only pull for · 05-31-2019, 09:59 AM

Who will be the first one to do a chargeback with BGS?

THE(NEXT)LEVEL · 05-31-2019, 09:59 AM

Someone is going to have a bad weekend....

3124508 on COMC · 05-31-2019, 09:59 AM

These were all in 2011 or earlier too. So when, by his own admission, he was still working at/with FCCG.

dmanrico · 05-31-2019, 09:59 AM

I’d be curious what’s the most black labels Jewcer has ever seen in one of his large subs. This dude had 22 in a row. This is way beyond improbable now.

jraarmy · 05-31-2019, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WJCIII

I'll have a detailed response, with facts, in the next couple of hours. Stay tuned!

Good luck

superdan49 · 05-31-2019, 10:01 AM

Beckett needs to buy back every one of those Black Labels. They won't though.

dmanrico · 05-31-2019, 10:02 AM

I’m going to laugh if one of his rebuttals is min grade black label (which besides being comical we’ll also know is not true as he would have brought this up early on when he was defending himself).

tonedef2oo8 · 05-31-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

It's literally in the OP. lol

https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30

Ruh roh

Since his boss brian is all about us the collectors one would think he should instantly fire an employee with such activity on us collectors. Go ahead and send it to his Twitter and wait till we get hit with cease and desists from ol shady used car salesmen razor.

And did I just see a moderator over at fcb vouch for them? Nothing to see here

3124508 on COMC · 05-31-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dmanrico

I’m going to laugh if one of his rebuttals is min grade black label (which besides being comical we’ll also know is not true as he would have brought this up early on when he was defending himself).

At any rate, there would be a 0.0 entry for each one that did not hit.

rainmaker · 05-31-2019, 10:03 AM

a few of you guys need to start up a PI firm the work you do is something else. major kudos! ill be watching with the popcorn as the hobby losers fall one after the next over the coming months. seems the flood gates are open.

anusinha · 05-31-2019, 10:03 AM

I love the BODA and all they do for the hobby.

kyaa · 05-31-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by superdan49

Beckett needs to buy back every one of those Black Labels. They won't though.

Or perhaps scrap Black Labels completely? They're tainted forever.

Ray27Ray52 · 05-31-2019, 10:04 AM

This is getting juicier. Will we reach full juice later.

jraarmy · 05-31-2019, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rainmaker

a few of you guys need to start up a PI firm the work you do is something else. major kudos! ill be watching with the popcorn as the hobby losers fall one after the next over the coming months. seems the flood gates are open.

Yes this ^^^^. unbelievable work by everybody involved.

Some real losers in this hobby.

ck6599 · 05-31-2019, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WJCIII

I'll have a detailed response, with facts, in the next couple of hours. Stay tuned!

Can't wait.......BUT, where there's smoke, there's fire. The OP's facts look pretty convincing...............let your shell game begin.

ThoseBackPages · 05-31-2019, 10:08 AM

as much as i do not care for BGS, i do not want to see them close

monopolies are bad

rainmaker · 05-31-2019, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kyaa

Or perhaps scrap Black Labels completely? They're tainted forever.

they really are. i never bought into it in the first place but at this point anyone that bought one has to be feeling like a real sucker. i dont see any way a market for these will sustain from this point forward.

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rainmaker Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,825 thewescoast	a few of you guys need to start up a PI firm the work you do is something else. major kudos! ill be watching with the popcorn as the hobby losers fall one after the next over the coming months. seems the flood gates are open. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/152850287@N08/albums

05-31-2019, 10:08 AM	#49
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,197 ThoseBackPages	as much as i do not care for BGS, i do not want to see them close monopolies are bad __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

05-31-2019, 09:55 AM	#27
Topcat79 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 262	I always thought Beckett needed better quality control. Their grading standards are all over the place it seems. But what do you expect from the company that inflated card prices in the 90s and helped create the bubble.

05-31-2019, 09:55 AM	#30
fenwaykid Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 5,315 fenwaykid	This guy should be banned from the site. Add his name to the list of scammers/fraudsters and somebody get this infront of BGS.

05-31-2019, 09:58 AM	#33
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,392	It's literally in the OP. lol https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30

05-31-2019, 09:59 AM	#34
I only pull for Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,460	Who will be the first one to do a chargeback with BGS?

05-31-2019, 09:59 AM	#35
THE(NEXT)LEVEL Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,707	Someone is going to have a bad weekend....

05-31-2019, 09:59 AM	#37
dmanrico Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,469	I’d be curious what’s the most black labels Jewcer has ever seen in one of his large subs. This dude had 22 in a row. This is way beyond improbable now.

05-31-2019, 10:02 AM	#40
dmanrico Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,469	I’m going to laugh if one of his rebuttals is min grade black label (which besides being comical we’ll also know is not true as he would have brought this up early on when he was defending himself).

05-31-2019, 10:03 AM	#44
anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,670	I love the BODA and all they do for the hobby.

05-31-2019, 10:04 AM	#46
Ray27Ray52 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 22,676	This is getting juicier. Will we reach full juice later.