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Old 06-14-2019, 10:35 AM   #1
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So 5 finals and 0 FMVPs.
Many chances to step up in the finals, but didn't... does last night sum up the stain of Steph Curry's legacy?

Missing game winner and missing many key shots for many years in the finals.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:37 AM   #2
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He's a 1-time Finals MVP in my mind.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:39 AM   #3
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I don't see it how you do at all. I see a guy who averages 20+ ppg while a team played a box and 1 and took a better team to 6 games completely undermanned. They beat Houston without KD. Hell of a run and he had some monster games this series. I see Klay as equally impressive.
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A bunch of salty lebron fans on here the past week. He has been sitting at home (or making movies) for 2 months now. Whatever helps you cope though, I guess.


PS.... Steph still has a better Finals record than the king
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:45 AM   #6
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The stain of Stephen Curry's legacy? What the hell is wrong with people nowadays...

When it's all said in done he'll be considered the best shooter in NBA history, a multiple NBA champion, one of the most popular players in the world and a first ballot hall of famer with a better career than about 99% of people who have ever played this game. I think he'll be just fine.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:45 AM   #7
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:46 AM   #8
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3 Titles. 2 MVPs. Greatest Pure Shooter of All-Time. He's not Michael Jordan, but he's still pretty amazing.
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Still the greatest shooter of all time.

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NBA achievements (according to google)


With one of the quickest releases in the NBA and the ability to make jump shots from virtually anywhere on the court, Curry is often considered the greatest shooter of all time.[4][5][6]
Regular season[edit]
Fewest games played to reach 1,000 career three-pointers made with 369.[7]
Fewest games played to reach 2,000 career three-pointers made with 597.[8]
Fewest games played to reach 100 three-pointers made in a season with 20.[9]
Highest scoring average for a player who shot 50+% on field goals, 40+% on 3-point field goals, and 90+% on free throws for an entire season with 30.1.
Highest scoring average for a player who led the league in free throw percentage in the same season with 30.1.
Largest increase in PPG from previous season by reigning MVP.[10]
1st place all-time for three-pointers made in a single season with 402.
also holds 2nd and 3rd place with 324 and 286, respectively.
1st place all-time for three-pointers attempted in a single season.
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 1 three-pointer made in a single season with 79.
1st place all-time for games with at least 4 three-pointers made and 4 assists with 269.[11]
1st place all-time for games with at least 5 three-pointers made and 5 assists with 165.[12]
1st place all-time for games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 6 assists with 77.[13]
1st place all-time for games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 7 assists with 31.[14]
1st place all-time for games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 8 assists with 17.[15]
1st place all-time for games with at least 9 three-pointers made with 9 assists with 2.[16]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 1 three-pointer made with 157.
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 2 three-pointers made with 53.[17]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 3 three-pointers made with 24.[18]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 3.[19]
1st place all-time for games with at least 5 three-pointers made with 123.
1st place all-time for games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 74.
1st place all-time for games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 41.
1st place all-time for games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 23
1st place all-time for games with at least 9 three-pointers made with 24.
1st place all-time for games with at least 10 three-pointers made with 14.
1st place all-time for games with at least 11 three-pointers made with 7.
1st place all-time for games with at least 12 three-pointers made with 2.
2nd place all-time for most three-pointers made in a game with 13.
Behind Klay Thompson (14).
1st place all-time for most seasons leading the league in three-pointers made with 5.
T-1st place all-time for most seasons leading the league in three-pointers attempted with 5.
Tied with Michael Adams.
2nd place all-time for highest three-point field goal percentage in a career having attempted at least 250.
Behind Steve Kerr.
3rd place all-time for highest free throw percentage in a career having attempted at least 1,200.
Behind Steve Nash and Mark Price.
Only player in NBA history to win the NBA MVP award unanimously.
Only player in NBA history to win their first Three-Point Contest, NBA MVP award, and NBA championship in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to score at least 45 points while attempting 25 field goals or fewer AND 5 or fewer FT attempts in a game.
Only player in NBA history to record a 50-point game with one or fewer free throw attempts.
Only player in NBA history to score 50 points and make 10 3-pointers in a single game multiple times.
Has achieved this four times.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 300 three-pointers in two seasons.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 400 three-pointers in a season.
Only player in NBA history with at least 200 three-pointers made and 600 assists in consecutive seasons.
Only player in NBA history with at least 250 three-pointers made and 500 assists in a season.
Has achieved this in four consecutive seasons.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 10 3-pointers in consecutive games.[20]
Only player in NBA history to make at least 10 3-pointers five times in one season.
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and make more three-pointers than free throws in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to join the 50–40–90 club and average at least 30 points in the same season.[21]
Only player in NBA history to record at least 1 3PM in every game in which he played, playing at least 70 games.[22]
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title, lead the league in steals per game, and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to lead the league in steals per game and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
One of two players in NBA history to make 200 three-pointers in 6 consecutive seasons.
Includes Klay Thompson.
One of three players in NBA history to lead the league in points per game and steals per game in the same season.
Includes Michael Jordan (achieved this three times) and Allen Iverson.
One of three players in NBA history to average 30 PPG and shoot 50 percent on field goals in a season as a guard.[23]
Includes Michael Jordan and George Gervin.
One of three players in NBA history to join the 50–40–90 club while shooting at least 45% from 3-point range in a season.[24]
Includes Steve Kerr and Steve Nash.
One of five players in NBA history to score at least 50 points within the first three games of the season.
Includes Wilt Chamberlain (achieved four times), Michael Jordan (achieved twice), Elgin Baylor, and Rashard Lewis.
One of six players in NBA history to win his first NBA MVP award and NBA championship in the same season.
Includes Shaquille O’Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Willis Reed and Bob Cousy.
One of six players in NBA history to lead the league in free throw percentage in consecutive seasons.
Includes Bill Sharman, Rick Barry, Larry Bird, Mark Price, and Reggie Miller.
One of seven players in NBA history to lead the league in free throw percentage at least three times.
Includes Bill Sharman, Dolph Schayes, Rick Barry, Larry Bird, Mark Price, and Reggie Miller.
One of eleven players in NBA history to win consecutive NBA MVP Awards.
Includes Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Moses Malone, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Tim Duncan, Steve Nash, and LeBron James.
Playoffs[edit]
Fewest games played in NBA history to reach 100 three-pointers made in a playoffs career with 28.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 3 three-pointers made and 3 assists with 42.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 4 three-pointers made and 4 assists with 31.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 5 three-pointers made and 5 assists with 17.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 6 assists with 12.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 7 assists with 5.
T-1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 8 assists with 1.
Tied with Mookie Blaylock, Chauncey Billups, Chris Paul, Draymond Green, and Damian Lillard.
1st place all-time for three-pointers made in a single postseason with 98 (tied with Klay Thompson).[25]
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 12.
1st place all-time for most consecutive playoff games with at least one three-pointer made with 58.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 5 three-pointers made with 22.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 8.
1st place all-time for three-pointers made with 386.
Only player in NBA history to make 4 three-pointers in each of his 1st 3 career playoff games.
Only player in NBA history to record 6 steals and make 6 three-pointers in a playoff game.
Only player in NBA history to make 100% of free throw attempts while attempting at least 16 in a Game 7.
One of two players in NBA history to make 5 three-pointers in 6 straight playoff games.
Includes Klay Thompson.
One of four players in NBA history to record at least 25 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, and 5 steals in a playoff series clinching win.
Includes Michael Jordan, Hersey Hawkins, and Scottie Pippen.
Most points made to complete a four-game sweep with 146.
NBA Finals[edit]
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals career with 105.
Youngest player in NBA history to hold the career Finals three point record at 30 yrs 80 days. (minimum 40 made)
Most three-pointers missed in a single NBA Finals game with 13.[26]
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals series with 32.
Most three-pointers attempted in an NBA Finals series with 80.
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals game with 9.
Only player in NBA history to achieve a double-double in each game of an NBA Finals series.
T-1st place all-time for points scored in the fourth quarter of an NBA Finals game.
Tied with Shaquille O'Neal, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Durant, and Russell Westbrook.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:48 AM   #10
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Curry already accomplished great with warriors, 3 champs in 5 years. 73 wins regular season. He doesn’t have body like lbj, kd or KL does, but he still put down great numbers in this series.
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Holy cow, now Curry stinks Lol This forum is hypercritical. Stop sticking everyone in a Jordan box or whatever comp is being dished. Sorry but this is why league talk is just silly. The overanalysis based on titles and accolades vs the ones who don’t have everything is oof. How do you enjoy basketball when the constraints of respectability tighten so much.

From the hobby view, I know Curry’s cards are high, but no reason to find holes in him to dismiss his collectors imho.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:49 AM   #12
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So 5 finals and 0 MVPs.
Many chances to step up in the finals, but didn't... does last night sum up the stain of Steph Curry's legacy?

Missing game winner and missing many key shots for many years in the finals.
His legacy has always been the best shooter of all time, he doesn't need to be clutch like Jerry West or Larry Bird. I don't see what they stain is, being a top 20 player all time instead of a top 10? He will always be an all time great, coming from a player who wasn't recruited by any major schools and was passed over by 5 teams for lesser players, I would say that is a pretty good legacy to have.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:50 AM   #13
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A bunch of salty lebron fans on here the past week. He has been sitting at home (or making movies) for 2 months now. Whatever helps you cope though, I guess.


PS.... Steph still has a better Finals record than the king
Lebron would have passed off the last shot
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:51 AM   #14
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I don't see it how you do at all. I see a guy who averages 20+ ppg while a team played a box and 1 and took a better team to 6 games completely undermanned. They beat Houston without KD. Hell of a run and he had some monster games this series. I see Klay as equally impressive.
To me this is a bit exaggerated.

Curry didn't beat Houston without KD. They played one game and one quarter without KD, not the entire series. That warriors team is without KD is still good enough to beat any team in the NBA for one game which is what they did. Curry had a crazy second half in that game to end the series. It was a great game by him, but he had a poor series overall. No way the Warriors beat Houston if KD was out from the beginning of the series. KD was averaging like 35ppg before he left towards the end of the 3rd in game 5.


The Raptors played box and 1 for maybe 18-20 minutes total in the series, in game 2 and game 6 4th quarters. The fact that it kept working after game 2 is more of an issue with Kerr and his coaching staff to not counter it. To say Toronto was the better team is a bit of a reach as most people were expecting the Warriors to win the series before game 1 tipped off. Curry wasn't completely undermanned either. KD was not there but the rest of the team was until game 3. This same team just swept the Blazers in the WCF too. Game 3 yes Curry was leading an undermanned Warriors team and came up short, but the series overall I did not think the Warriors were undermanned. Even game 3 sitting Klay was a team decision and he said he wanted to play. But I would say talent wise the Raptors and Warriors were about even in this series once KD was not playing.
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Old 06-14-2019, 11:17 AM   #16
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did you see the video of the bettor destroying 2 tv's after the warriors lost?
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The stain of Stephen Curry's legacy? What the hell is wrong with people nowadays...

When it's all said in done he'll be considered the best shooter in NBA history, a multiple NBA champion, one of the most popular players in the world and a first ballot hall of famer with a better career than about 99% of people who have ever played this game. I think he'll be just fine.
Right?? Don't forget 2-time regular season MVP (once unanimous). His legacy is just fine. He is an all-time great no matter what. I loathe to get into all the petty farm animal rankings/talk.
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I mean he did have 47 in game 3. He can’t do it all by himself.
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Peyton Manning all over again.
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He repeatedly made the right play (typically a pass) last night, unfortunately they didn't have the firepower on the wings to knock down shots like the usually do.

The Raptors double teamed, triple teamed, blitzed, everything imaginable to get it out of his hands so I'm not sure what people expected against the best defense in the league with no Klay or KD...

Also, the Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard only had 1 more point than Curry last night, so are we going to be critical of Kawhi as well? No were not, because his was the better team that won the game.
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Peyton Manning all over again.
That is funny, I was just thinking about Manning as I was reading this thread as well.

Before Super Bowl - Great regular season player, goes deep in playoffs and chokes. Never will be considered an all time great.

.. Plays very average to poor in a Super Bowl run and gets a ring.

After Super Bowl - Great player, gets his team into deep playoff runs every year, what a winner and all time great!!

Narratives are funny thing and can change instantly.
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I see where u going OP, I don’t have him in a whole different stratosphere like a lot of people on here or the media darling that they portray him to be in general. Interesting stat I saw is that Curry is now 0-8 on go-ahead shots with less than 0:20 in NBA Playoff career. When someone is the claimed “greatest shooter” ever , I would like to say I want it to include the Finals as well if they were fortunate to played in them. , Ray Allen has missed many shots but he made that one that people will remember forever , Reggie never was in the Finals and missed lot of shots but he had his New York playoff run and lots will remember the made shots.
Him being a PG ,I just don’t have the feel that he will control a game, the series , etc ..once those circus 3 pointers don’t fall then what I want to see is make difference on the defensive side or playmaking side to overcome the adversity and he has not when it was needed especially in this series .When I saw him play in Davidson i saw a great shooter but not one that I could imagine be a MVP of the league 2 times , I think he has overachieved for his career so far . Kerr’s system is what made it work for Steph , to me he is just a one dimensional player that doesn’t have the intangibles to carry a team overall on both sides of the ball and will them to a Finals victory like a lot of previous real great players have done and that’s ok , I didn’t expect him to .When Durant was out I figured it was going to be Klay be that one to fill in that role to carry the team not Steph because of what I saw in the past Finals years.
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I’m not a Warriors fan.

Steph’s Legacy?

3x Champ, 2x MVP, best pure shooter maybe ever, changed the way the game was played. That’s just the Cliff’s Notes version.

That’s if he walks away today. His legacy is not in jeopardy.
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