Steph Curry's Legacy

[Mattsurewood]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I’m not a Warriors fan.

Steph’s Legacy?

3x Champ, 2x MVP, best pure shooter maybe ever, changed the way the game was played. That’s just the Cliff’s Notes version.

That’s if he walks away today. His legacy is not in jeopardy.

Agreed...the story isn't over just yet.

[jcardstore]

This just solidifies that he’s never going to be one of those top10 or Mount Rushmore NBA players. All time great player? Definitely. Greatest shooter ever? Probably right now but who knows with the way the game is going. Put prime Ray Allen on the Warriors and I bet he’d be setting every single 3pt record too so it’s really hard to compare Curry against anyone else because this type of basketball has never been played.

Not a chance he’s ever a top10 all-time guy, tho

[duwal]

Originally Posted by ChampCards

So 5 finals and 0 FMVPs.
Many chances to step up in the finals, but didn't... does last night sum up the stain of Steph Curry's legacy?

Missing game winner and missing many key shots for many years in the finals.

No stain at all on his legacy. This year in the finals Curry averages 30.5 points to go with 5 rebounds and 6 assists a game, better averages than most players that win a Finals MVP. Last year he didn't win and his averages were 27.5, 6.0, 6.8. Year before that he averaged 26.8, 8.0, 9.4. He honestly might have strengthened his legacy with what he did against Portland and his Game 3 performance with 47 points to go with 8 and 7

[tjforce]

Curry's legacy at this point is easy:

Greatest 3 point shooter ever. 2 time MVP. 3 Time Champion. Sure first ballot HOF'er.

Not on the level of other recent greats like Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, etc.

His inability to take over in the biggest of situations keeps him at least 1 level below each of those mentioned above.

[Archangel1775]

Yeah, overrated, you know, the heart and soul of the team. They could've won them all without him.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Yeah, overrated, you know, the heart and soul of the team. They could've won them all without him.

But never the most valuable.

Also, if you want to argue who's 'heart and soul of the team', which is totally subjective and cannot be proven one way or the other, you could just as easily argue Klay Thompson, who they can't win without, time and time again.

[Supersuper]

Originally Posted by tjforce

But never the most valuable.

Also, if you want to argue who's 'heart and soul of the team', which is totally subjective and cannot be proven one way or the other, you could just as easily argue Klay Thompson, who they can't win without, time and time again.

Curry isn’t the heart of current warriors team? As you see from finals, raptors didn't guard thompson as hard as they guard curry, and curry still get 30 ppg in this series. Both of them are important to Warriors. But if u want me to choose one to be the best player in this team, I will go curry.

[byronscott4ever]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Curry's legacy at this point is easy:

Greatest 3 point shooter ever. 2 time MVP. 3 Time Champion. Sure first ballot HOF'er.

Not on the level of other recent greats like Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, etc.

His inability to take over in the biggest of situations keeps him at least 1 level below each of those mentioned above.

Those all seem to be two-way players in their prime too

[Bulls90s]

That was an ugly shot last night, Curry..Im sure he practiced that shot for years. He was so surprised he didnt make it.

[LALeakers]

Originally Posted by ChampCards

So 5 finals and 0 FMVPs.
Many chances to step up in the finals, but didn't... does last night sum up the stain of Steph Curry's legacy?

Missing game winner and missing many key shots for many years in the finals.

Stop. Smoking. Meth.

[exitmusicblue]

Though I'm a KD man myself, it ain't close to over for Steph. Legacy talk is for old folk like soon-to-be 35 LBJ. Because you know you can't add much more at that point, only detract, esp. if he keeps being a locker room cancer + playing sh*t for D.

Steph is turning 31.

And Dubs bringing back the big guns... (see latest in Windhorst thread). You can do a lot with Steph's talent minus the double and triple teams. Stay tuned.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by tjforce

But never the most valuable.

Also, if you want to argue who's 'heart and soul of the team', which is totally subjective and cannot be proven one way or the other, you could just as easily argue Klay Thompson, who they can't win without, time and time again.

How was he not the most valuable before KD? And even after KD, it's still arguable.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

How was he not the most valuable before KD? And even after KD, it's still arguable.

Im talking in the NBA finals, when he indeed was not MVP.

If you’re talking regular season, sure thing. He was mvp the same way as Steve Nash, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, etc.

[Supersuper]

Not try to be disrespectful to kd, but if situation changed, kd were the one who is healthy, and curry is the one out. I doubt the ability of the kd to carry this team to finals without carry. Warriors would be eliminated when they face rockets.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by tjforce

But never the most valuable.

Also, if you want to argue who's 'heart and soul of the team', which is totally subjective and cannot be proven one way or the other, you could just as easily argue Klay Thompson, who they can't win without, time and time again.

(1) It’s a subjective accolade.
(2) Some would argue that Curry should’ve been finals MVP over Iguodala in the 2014-15 Finals.

I do agree with you on the Klay point. Both are incredibly valuable to the team.. Klay is a significantly better defender and Curry is a significantly better passer/ball handler. They complement each other well and both are needed for Dubs to be successful IMO. Personally, I value them equally despite Curry getting more mainstream recognition.

[Bowman23]

Great player that chokes in playoffs and needed kyrie and love to get hurt to win a ring. Then needed KD to join him. Also 0 finals MVPs take it how you guys want that straight facts.

[UltimateDeron]

Originally Posted by docgumby

Still the greatest shooter of all time.

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NBA achievements (according to google)


With one of the quickest releases in the NBA and the ability to make jump shots from virtually anywhere on the court, Curry is often considered the greatest shooter of all time.[4][5][6]
Regular season[edit]
Fewest games played to reach 1,000 career three-pointers made with 369.[7]
Fewest games played to reach 2,000 career three-pointers made with 597.[8]
Fewest games played to reach 100 three-pointers made in a season with 20.[9]
Highest scoring average for a player who shot 50+% on field goals, 40+% on 3-point field goals, and 90+% on free throws for an entire season with 30.1.
Highest scoring average for a player who led the league in free throw percentage in the same season with 30.1.
Largest increase in PPG from previous season by reigning MVP.[10]
1st place all-time for three-pointers made in a single season with 402.
also holds 2nd and 3rd place with 324 and 286, respectively.
1st place all-time for three-pointers attempted in a single season.
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 1 three-pointer made in a single season with 79.
1st place all-time for games with at least 4 three-pointers made and 4 assists with 269.[11]
1st place all-time for games with at least 5 three-pointers made and 5 assists with 165.[12]
1st place all-time for games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 6 assists with 77.[13]
1st place all-time for games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 7 assists with 31.[14]
1st place all-time for games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 8 assists with 17.[15]
1st place all-time for games with at least 9 three-pointers made with 9 assists with 2.[16]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 1 three-pointer made with 157.
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 2 three-pointers made with 53.[17]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 3 three-pointers made with 24.[18]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 3.[19]
1st place all-time for games with at least 5 three-pointers made with 123.
1st place all-time for games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 74.
1st place all-time for games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 41.
1st place all-time for games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 23
1st place all-time for games with at least 9 three-pointers made with 24.
1st place all-time for games with at least 10 three-pointers made with 14.
1st place all-time for games with at least 11 three-pointers made with 7.
1st place all-time for games with at least 12 three-pointers made with 2.
2nd place all-time for most three-pointers made in a game with 13.
Behind Klay Thompson (14).
1st place all-time for most seasons leading the league in three-pointers made with 5.
T-1st place all-time for most seasons leading the league in three-pointers attempted with 5.
Tied with Michael Adams.
2nd place all-time for highest three-point field goal percentage in a career having attempted at least 250.
Behind Steve Kerr.
3rd place all-time for highest free throw percentage in a career having attempted at least 1,200.
Behind Steve Nash and Mark Price.
Only player in NBA history to win the NBA MVP award unanimously.
Only player in NBA history to win their first Three-Point Contest, NBA MVP award, and NBA championship in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to score at least 45 points while attempting 25 field goals or fewer AND 5 or fewer FT attempts in a game.
Only player in NBA history to record a 50-point game with one or fewer free throw attempts.
Only player in NBA history to score 50 points and make 10 3-pointers in a single game multiple times.
Has achieved this four times.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 300 three-pointers in two seasons.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 400 three-pointers in a season.
Only player in NBA history with at least 200 three-pointers made and 600 assists in consecutive seasons.
Only player in NBA history with at least 250 three-pointers made and 500 assists in a season.
Has achieved this in four consecutive seasons.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 10 3-pointers in consecutive games.[20]
Only player in NBA history to make at least 10 3-pointers five times in one season.
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and make more three-pointers than free throws in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to join the 50–40–90 club and average at least 30 points in the same season.[21]
Only player in NBA history to record at least 1 3PM in every game in which he played, playing at least 70 games.[22]
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title, lead the league in steals per game, and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to lead the league in steals per game and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
One of two players in NBA history to make 200 three-pointers in 6 consecutive seasons.
Includes Klay Thompson.
One of three players in NBA history to lead the league in points per game and steals per game in the same season.
Includes Michael Jordan (achieved this three times) and Allen Iverson.
One of three players in NBA history to average 30 PPG and shoot 50 percent on field goals in a season as a guard.[23]
Includes Michael Jordan and George Gervin.
One of three players in NBA history to join the 50–40–90 club while shooting at least 45% from 3-point range in a season.[24]
Includes Steve Kerr and Steve Nash.
One of five players in NBA history to score at least 50 points within the first three games of the season.
Includes Wilt Chamberlain (achieved four times), Michael Jordan (achieved twice), Elgin Baylor, and Rashard Lewis.
One of six players in NBA history to win his first NBA MVP award and NBA championship in the same season.
Includes Shaquille O’Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Willis Reed and Bob Cousy.
One of six players in NBA history to lead the league in free throw percentage in consecutive seasons.
Includes Bill Sharman, Rick Barry, Larry Bird, Mark Price, and Reggie Miller.
One of seven players in NBA history to lead the league in free throw percentage at least three times.
Includes Bill Sharman, Dolph Schayes, Rick Barry, Larry Bird, Mark Price, and Reggie Miller.
One of eleven players in NBA history to win consecutive NBA MVP Awards.
Includes Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Moses Malone, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Tim Duncan, Steve Nash, and LeBron James.
Playoffs[edit]
Fewest games played in NBA history to reach 100 three-pointers made in a playoffs career with 28.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 3 three-pointers made and 3 assists with 42.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 4 three-pointers made and 4 assists with 31.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 5 three-pointers made and 5 assists with 17.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 6 assists with 12.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 7 assists with 5.
T-1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 8 assists with 1.
Tied with Mookie Blaylock, Chauncey Billups, Chris Paul, Draymond Green, and Damian Lillard.
1st place all-time for three-pointers made in a single postseason with 98 (tied with Klay Thompson).[25]
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 12.
1st place all-time for most consecutive playoff games with at least one three-pointer made with 58.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 5 three-pointers made with 22.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 8.
1st place all-time for three-pointers made with 386.
Only player in NBA history to make 4 three-pointers in each of his 1st 3 career playoff games.
Only player in NBA history to record 6 steals and make 6 three-pointers in a playoff game.
Only player in NBA history to make 100% of free throw attempts while attempting at least 16 in a Game 7.
One of two players in NBA history to make 5 three-pointers in 6 straight playoff games.
Includes Klay Thompson.
One of four players in NBA history to record at least 25 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, and 5 steals in a playoff series clinching win.
Includes Michael Jordan, Hersey Hawkins, and Scottie Pippen.
Most points made to complete a four-game sweep with 146.
NBA Finals[edit]
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals career with 105.
Youngest player in NBA history to hold the career Finals three point record at 30 yrs 80 days. (minimum 40 made)
Most three-pointers missed in a single NBA Finals game with 13.[26]
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals series with 32.
Most three-pointers attempted in an NBA Finals series with 80.
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals game with 9.
Only player in NBA history to achieve a double-double in each game of an NBA Finals series.
T-1st place all-time for points scored in the fourth quarter of an NBA Finals game.
Tied with Shaquille O'Neal, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Durant, and Russell Westbrook.

Psshhh.. That’s it?

[Supersuper]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

(1) It’s a subjective accolade.
(2) Some would argue that Curry should’ve been finals MVP over Iguodala in the 2014-15 Finals.

I do agree with you on the Klay point. Both are incredibly valuable to the team.. Klay is a significantly better defender and Curry is a significantly better passer/ball handler. They complement each other well and both are needed for Dubs to be successful IMO. Personally, I value them equally despite Curry getting more mainstream recognition.

Thompson is great shooter, but he won’t be the leader in this team. And to those ppl who doubt about Curry, just imagine how terrible this playoff would be without Curry for all warriors fans.

[drobfan8]

He's heading the way of Tim Duncan and Bill Russell.

Underappreciated.

The Finals MVPs are a joke, that says more about the plebs voting than it does about Steph.

Dude built a team from ground up and literally took over. Great leader, would have loved to have seen him hit that shot in game 6 to force game 7, but I think Toronto would have won by 20.

He's top 10 ish at the moment with room to move.

[Supersuper]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

He's heading the way of Tim Duncan and Bill Russell.

Underappreciated.

The Finals MVPs are a joke, that says more about the plebs voting than it does about Steph.

Dude built a team from ground up and literally took over. Great leader, would have loved to have seen him hit that shot in game 6 to force game 7, but I think Toronto would have won by 20.

He's top 10 ish at the moment with room to move.

He scored 30.5 ppg in this series, and 36.5 against Portland in western conference finals. And there is ppl still talk #@#@#@#@ about him.

[Longshot18]

Originally Posted by ChampCards

So 5 finals and 0 FMVPs.
Many chances to step up in the finals, but didn't... does last night sum up the stain of Steph Curry's legacy?

Missing game winner and missing many key shots for many years in the finals.

Replies below sum things up well.

All I will add is that there is a saying "Just because you blow someone elses candle out does not mean yours shines brighter". Why are we nitpicking a first ballot HOFer who is going to go down as the best pure shooter in the history of the game?

Originally Posted by Luni

The stain of Stephen Curry's legacy? What the hell is wrong with people nowadays...

When it's all said in done he'll be considered the best shooter in NBA history, a multiple NBA champion, one of the most popular players in the world and a first ballot hall of famer with a better career than about 99% of people who have ever played this game. I think he'll be just fine.

Originally Posted by docgumby

Still the greatest shooter of all time.

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NBA achievements (according to google)


With one of the quickest releases in the NBA and the ability to make jump shots from virtually anywhere on the court, Curry is often considered the greatest shooter of all time.[4][5][6]
Regular season[edit]
Fewest games played to reach 1,000 career three-pointers made with 369.[7]
Fewest games played to reach 2,000 career three-pointers made with 597.[8]
Fewest games played to reach 100 three-pointers made in a season with 20.[9]
Highest scoring average for a player who shot 50+% on field goals, 40+% on 3-point field goals, and 90+% on free throws for an entire season with 30.1.
Highest scoring average for a player who led the league in free throw percentage in the same season with 30.1.
Largest increase in PPG from previous season by reigning MVP.[10]
1st place all-time for three-pointers made in a single season with 402.
also holds 2nd and 3rd place with 324 and 286, respectively.
1st place all-time for three-pointers attempted in a single season.
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 1 three-pointer made in a single season with 79.
1st place all-time for games with at least 4 three-pointers made and 4 assists with 269.[11]
1st place all-time for games with at least 5 three-pointers made and 5 assists with 165.[12]
1st place all-time for games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 6 assists with 77.[13]
1st place all-time for games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 7 assists with 31.[14]
1st place all-time for games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 8 assists with 17.[15]
1st place all-time for games with at least 9 three-pointers made with 9 assists with 2.[16]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 1 three-pointer made with 157.
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 2 three-pointers made with 53.[17]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 3 three-pointers made with 24.[18]
1st place all-time for consecutive games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 3.[19]
1st place all-time for games with at least 5 three-pointers made with 123.
1st place all-time for games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 74.
1st place all-time for games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 41.
1st place all-time for games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 23
1st place all-time for games with at least 9 three-pointers made with 24.
1st place all-time for games with at least 10 three-pointers made with 14.
1st place all-time for games with at least 11 three-pointers made with 7.
1st place all-time for games with at least 12 three-pointers made with 2.
2nd place all-time for most three-pointers made in a game with 13.
Behind Klay Thompson (14).
1st place all-time for most seasons leading the league in three-pointers made with 5.
T-1st place all-time for most seasons leading the league in three-pointers attempted with 5.
Tied with Michael Adams.
2nd place all-time for highest three-point field goal percentage in a career having attempted at least 250.
Behind Steve Kerr.
3rd place all-time for highest free throw percentage in a career having attempted at least 1,200.
Behind Steve Nash and Mark Price.
Only player in NBA history to win the NBA MVP award unanimously.
Only player in NBA history to win their first Three-Point Contest, NBA MVP award, and NBA championship in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to score at least 45 points while attempting 25 field goals or fewer AND 5 or fewer FT attempts in a game.
Only player in NBA history to record a 50-point game with one or fewer free throw attempts.
Only player in NBA history to score 50 points and make 10 3-pointers in a single game multiple times.
Has achieved this four times.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 300 three-pointers in two seasons.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 400 three-pointers in a season.
Only player in NBA history with at least 200 three-pointers made and 600 assists in consecutive seasons.
Only player in NBA history with at least 250 three-pointers made and 500 assists in a season.
Has achieved this in four consecutive seasons.
Only player in NBA history to make at least 10 3-pointers in consecutive games.[20]
Only player in NBA history to make at least 10 3-pointers five times in one season.
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and make more three-pointers than free throws in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to join the 50–40–90 club and average at least 30 points in the same season.[21]
Only player in NBA history to record at least 1 3PM in every game in which he played, playing at least 70 games.[22]
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title, lead the league in steals per game, and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
Only player in NBA history to lead the league in steals per game and lead the league in free throw percentage in the same season.
One of two players in NBA history to make 200 three-pointers in 6 consecutive seasons.
Includes Klay Thompson.
One of three players in NBA history to lead the league in points per game and steals per game in the same season.
Includes Michael Jordan (achieved this three times) and Allen Iverson.
One of three players in NBA history to average 30 PPG and shoot 50 percent on field goals in a season as a guard.[23]
Includes Michael Jordan and George Gervin.
One of three players in NBA history to join the 50–40–90 club while shooting at least 45% from 3-point range in a season.[24]
Includes Steve Kerr and Steve Nash.
One of five players in NBA history to score at least 50 points within the first three games of the season.
Includes Wilt Chamberlain (achieved four times), Michael Jordan (achieved twice), Elgin Baylor, and Rashard Lewis.
One of six players in NBA history to win his first NBA MVP award and NBA championship in the same season.
Includes Shaquille O’Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Willis Reed and Bob Cousy.
One of six players in NBA history to lead the league in free throw percentage in consecutive seasons.
Includes Bill Sharman, Rick Barry, Larry Bird, Mark Price, and Reggie Miller.
One of seven players in NBA history to lead the league in free throw percentage at least three times.
Includes Bill Sharman, Dolph Schayes, Rick Barry, Larry Bird, Mark Price, and Reggie Miller.
One of eleven players in NBA history to win consecutive NBA MVP Awards.
Includes Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Moses Malone, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Tim Duncan, Steve Nash, and LeBron James.
Playoffs[edit]
Fewest games played in NBA history to reach 100 three-pointers made in a playoffs career with 28.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 3 three-pointers made and 3 assists with 42.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 4 three-pointers made and 4 assists with 31.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 5 three-pointers made and 5 assists with 17.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 6 assists with 12.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 7 assists with 5.
T-1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 8 three-pointers made with 8 assists with 1.
Tied with Mookie Blaylock, Chauncey Billups, Chris Paul, Draymond Green, and Damian Lillard.
1st place all-time for three-pointers made in a single postseason with 98 (tied with Klay Thompson).[25]
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 6 three-pointers made with 12.
1st place all-time for most consecutive playoff games with at least one three-pointer made with 58.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 5 three-pointers made with 22.
1st place all-time for playoff games with at least 7 three-pointers made with 8.
1st place all-time for three-pointers made with 386.
Only player in NBA history to make 4 three-pointers in each of his 1st 3 career playoff games.
Only player in NBA history to record 6 steals and make 6 three-pointers in a playoff game.
Only player in NBA history to make 100% of free throw attempts while attempting at least 16 in a Game 7.
One of two players in NBA history to make 5 three-pointers in 6 straight playoff games.
Includes Klay Thompson.
One of four players in NBA history to record at least 25 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, and 5 steals in a playoff series clinching win.
Includes Michael Jordan, Hersey Hawkins, and Scottie Pippen.
Most points made to complete a four-game sweep with 146.
NBA Finals[edit]
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals career with 105.
Youngest player in NBA history to hold the career Finals three point record at 30 yrs 80 days. (minimum 40 made)
Most three-pointers missed in a single NBA Finals game with 13.[26]
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals series with 32.
Most three-pointers attempted in an NBA Finals series with 80.
Most three-pointers made in an NBA Finals game with 9.
Only player in NBA history to achieve a double-double in each game of an NBA Finals series.
T-1st place all-time for points scored in the fourth quarter of an NBA Finals game.
Tied with Shaquille O'Neal, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Durant, and Russell Westbrook.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by chris_ac

How do you enjoy basketball when the constraints of respectability tighten so much.

I like this statement. So true. The NBA is full of amazingly talented players that get torched on here. There isn’t a single star player I have much bad to say about. If anything, I’m mostly only critical of my own team’s players.