Brent Huigens & PWCC Used pwcc_auctions ID to Buy Cards for Gary Moser to Trim/Alter

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by sabrgeek

The one person they quoted in the story from the message boards was Peter Spaeth who posts under his OWN name on net 54. Just an FYI

Rich

Glad he wanted his name out there.

[sabrgeek]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Glad he wanted his name out there.

Agreed 100 Percent. Full credit to Peter for that.

Rich

[Schwang17]

I find it most unfortunate, if anything, that I own several Leaf wrestling sets from the past few years, and their owner, and CEO, is coming on here and sinking the company further than they already were in the minds of collectors. For the love of God, Brian Gray, hire a PR firm and throw your keyboard away! I will leave my real name signed below, since that seems to be a big thing for you.

Sincerely, Joshua Schwengler

[Archangel1775]

In defense of BG in this thread, he simply expressed a thought on PWCC auctions ending values. He's allowed to do that and I don't see anything wrong with it. Obviously he got a bit personal but we're all human. Agreed though, probably best to use his regular Blowout ID, not the company one. And to stay away from emotional reactions to responses.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

In defense of BG in this thread, he simply expressed a thought on PWCC auctions ending values. He's allowed to do that and I don't see anything wrong with it. Obviously he got a bit personal but we're all human. Agreed though, probably best to use his regular Blowout ID, not the company one. And to stay away from emotional reactions to responses.

Agreed. Looking back, people here got him off track. Personally, I would've left once they did that, but he didn't derail the thread himself.

[mattglet]

Originally Posted by sabrgeek

The one person they quoted in the story from the message boards was Peter Spaeth who posts under his OWN name on net 54. Just an FYI

Rich

Everyone has their name public on net54, it's part of the rules.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by mattglet

Everyone has their name public on net54, it's part of the rules.

So what you're saying is they can't hide behind a consignment company?

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

So what you're saying is they can't hide behind a consignment company?

Yeah, Leon should vet PWCC's consignments with his affinity for calling people on his forum. Perfect job for him.

[superdan49]

Originally Posted by sabrgeek

The one person they quoted in the story from the message boards was Peter Spaeth who posts under his OWN name on net 54. Just an FYI

Rich

I'm confused as to why you posted this. If you have a point to make, please don't dance around it.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by superdan49

I'm confused as to why you posted this. If you have a point to make, please don't dance around it.

Same soapbox as always.

[superdan49]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Same soapbox as always.

June 14, 2019: The date when the hobby's shitposters became the journalists and the hobby's journalists became the shitposters.

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by sabrgeek

The one person they quoted in the story from the message boards was Peter Spaeth who posts under his OWN name on net 54. Just an FYI

Rich

That story would never have been written without "anonymous" people (Superdan, 312, Corndog) doing the actual WORK and providing EVIDENCE. Hats off to Peter for providing comments for the story, but he was commenting on other people's real work. It's not like he broke the story.

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by mattglet

Everyone has their name public on net54, it's part of the rules.

And even that's not true.

Leon has no way of telling if the name a person gives is actually their real name. It's just an exercise he likes to have so he can hide behind it when he gets what he really wants -- flame wars, trainwrecks, and mentally unstable people spouting off hate.

Arthur

[Saraste]

Flame wars, trainwrecks, and mentally unstable people spouting off hate...Leon doesn't need his own forum for that. This one will do just fine.

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by Saraste

Flame wars, trainwrecks, and mentally unstable people spouting off hate...Leon doesn't need his own forum for that. This one will do just fine.

This place is nothing compared to the vile that gets spouted on Net54. Antisemitism, racism, Sandy Hook "truthers," 9/11 "truthers," there is no low too low for page counts.

Arthur

[mattglet]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

And even that's not true.

Leon has no way of telling if the name a person gives is actually their real name. It's just an exercise he likes to have so he can hide behind it when he gets what he really wants -- flame wars, trainwrecks, and mentally unstable people spouting off hate.

Arthur

Ah, good point.

[cking]

Originally Posted by RYBOWSKI97

great look for your company bro...marketing and pr at its finest right here

Agreed. I think Brian acts like this because he knows the level of addiction in the box breaking world.

The degenerates are going to buy no matter what.

But someone in his company should do the smart thing and tell him to be quiet.

His company looks worse and worse every time he posts.

[corndog]

This card belongs here and I also added it to the Mantle thread.

This card was purchased by Brent Huigens with his Ebay ID of prewarcardcollector in November of 2011. He then sold it under the same Ebay ID - prewarcardcollector in July of 2014.

PSA Cert #22834528

1909-11 T206 Ty Cobb RED PORTRAIT, OLD MILL

Value gain of $1,967.80

This card was purchased by Brent Huigens from Ebay seller mhgt as a SGC-2 on November 20, 2011 for $682.20. Ebay feedback left link: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...0&mPg=5&page=3
Seller mhgt feedback left for prewarcardcollector (now PWCC) link: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...&mPg=13&page=7
Same card was sold by Brent Huigens' Ebay ID prewarcardcollector (later PWCC) as a PSA-4.5 for $2,650.00 on July 07, 2014. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1016808

Feedback left for prewarcardcollector by seller mhgt (prewarcardcollector's masked Ebay ID is u***p):


prewarcardcollector's (PWCC) SGC-2 purchase information screengrab from VCP (his masked ID is e***r:


prewarcardcollector's sale of the PSA-4.5 screengrab from VCP:


Yellow circles are print or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify areas of improvement. It is difficult to tell exactly what was done due to scanner settings, but these areas look different in before and after and the card bumped from a 2 to a 4.5. This was Brent Huigens' card.

Image from VCP:

[Ross]

Conserved it right into the bank...


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[3124508 on COMC]

Before and after pictures are not evidence.

[Saraste]

The top left corner on the front (top right on the back) looks like it was built back up.

[Saraste]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Before and after pictures are not evidence.

Can before and after pictures be conserved?

[sugarbabies]

Originally Posted by corndog

This card belongs here and I also added it to the Mantle thread.

This card was purchased by Brent Huigens with his Ebay ID of prewarcardcollector in November of 2011. He then sold it under the same Ebay ID - prewarcardcollector in July of 2014.

PSA Cert #22834528

1909-11 T206 Ty Cobb RED PORTRAIT, OLD MILL

Value gain of $1,967.80

This card was purchased by Brent Huigens from Ebay seller mhgt as a SGC-2 on November 20, 2011 for $682.20. Ebay feedback left link: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...0&mPg=5&page=3
Seller mhgt feedback left for prewarcardcollector (now PWCC) link: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...&mPg=13&page=7
Same card was sold by Brent Huigens' Ebay ID prewarcardcollector (later PWCC) as a PSA-4.5 for $2,650.00 on July 07, 2014. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1016808

Feedback left for prewarcardcollector by seller mhgt (prewarcardcollector's masked Ebay ID is u***p):


prewarcardcollector's (PWCC) SGC-2 purchase information screengrab from VCP (his masked ID is e***r:


prewarcardcollector's sale of the PSA-4.5 screengrab from VCP:


Yellow circles are print or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify areas of improvement. It is difficult to tell exactly what was done due to scanner settings, but these areas look different in before and after and the card bumped from a 2 to a 4.5. This was Brent Huigens' card.

Image from VCP:

It's the same card …….but the PSA 4.5 doesn't look much better than the SGC 2.

[MoreToppsPlease]

This is the first time Brent’s been linked to a card that’s apparently altered while in his possession, no?

Is this the final nail in the coffin? Greed makes people sloppy.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

This is the first time Brent’s been linked to a card that’s apparently altered while in his possession, no?

Is this the final nail in the coffin? Greed makes people sloppy.

No, the very first post in this thread has 6 or 7 other cards purchased and sold by Huigens. That was the reason that this thread was created by the OP, who did a fantastic job of spending the time finding them.