2019/20 ¤Regular season chit-chat thread¤ ™ - Page 26

jcardstore · 11-01-2019, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tlm7995

Lakers only favored by 1.5 on the road against the Mavs. Kuzma returns tonight and AD is going to play. Seems like easy money to take LA. Anyone have thoughts?

Trap game. Take the Mavs

GeechQuest · 11-01-2019, 11:23 AM

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If it seems like easy money, I’d go the opposite direction.

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Trap game. Take the Mavs

You know what they say about a fool and their money....

jcardstore · 11-01-2019, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by the27guy

Sorry, just saw this.

I believed that the league would penalize Embiid more for his actions following the skirmish. I was entirely wrong. I thought the shadow boxing and general lack of remorse, and words via social media were worth more than 2 games, but clearly the league doesn't think that's an issue. It's an interesting precedent to set byt the league. I mean, if a fan yelled the words in an arena that Embiid said openly and publicly, they'd likely get a lifetime ban.... but what do I know...

I understand why fans are held to a different standard because they routinely say really nasty stuff. I'd imagine much worse than what players say to each other on the court.

ballhawkdawk · 11-01-2019, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tlm7995

Lakers only favored by 1.5 on the road against the Mavs. Kuzma returns tonight and AD is going to play. Seems like easy money to take LA. Anyone have thoughts?

It’s a trap.

ballhawkdawk · 11-01-2019, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Trap game. Take the Mavs

Lol.. didn’t even see this before my response. But yeah... I obviously concur.

tlm7995 · 11-01-2019, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

You know what they say about a fool and their money....

"it's ok...if I lose this bet I'll just win it back on the next one"

every sports bettor has said this to themselves before...and subsequently been heartbroken with trap games and back door covers. My degenerate days are over but I'll throw $20 on a game maybe once every few months

ballhawkdawk · 11-01-2019, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tlm7995

"it's ok...if I lose this bet I'll just win it back on the next one"

every sports bettor has said this to themselves before...and subsequently been heartbroken with trap games and back door covers. My degenerate days are over but I'll throw $20 on a game maybe once every few months

I don’t bet on sports because I hate losing more than I like winning, but I’d YOLO a money line bet on the Mavs in that game just based on the line. That same disdain for losing is why I rarely open packs other than the occasional rip with my son.

Devi8or · 11-01-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by spurs50fan

Any trade partners for Marco?

definitely not, worse part is that Pop said Lonnie played "Horrible" and didn't utilize his minutes given

Sorry Pop, but the kid played 4 minutes last night, probably about 10 total all season.....how the hell is he supposed to learn from his mistakes and get better. This is the part about Pop that frustrates me the most, his refusal to let young guys get a chance yet he'll throw a washed up vet in there. Marco has been terrible, there's absolutely no way Lonnie could be worse if they swapped minutes.....plus he's paid way less

jcardstore · 11-01-2019, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Devi8or

definitely not, worse part is that Pop said Lonnie played "Horrible" and didn't utilize his minutes given

Sorry Pop, but the kid played 4 minutes last night, probably about 10 total all season.....how the hell is he supposed to learn from his mistakes and get better. This is the part about Pop that frustrates me the most, his refusal to let young guys get a chance yet he'll throw a washed up vet in there. Marco has been terrible, there's absolutely no way Lonnie could be worse if they swapped minutes.....plus he's paid way less

Pop is very much like Belichick in the sense that his players have very short leashes.

We don't see what happens in practice but if Lonnie isn't giving the effort or making the plays that Pop wants he's not going to play, plain and simple.

Pop is the greatest coach in NBA history in terms of what he has been able to accomplish with the level of talent he's been given. There's no better organization at developing young players.

Lonnie obviously isn't ready and he's not doing things the way he should be.

jcardstore · 11-01-2019, 11:50 AM

I know it's hard to be sitting on a stash of a player who's not playing but if anybody can get the best out of him it's Pop

GeechQuest · 11-01-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tlm7995

"it's ok...if I lose this bet I'll just win it back on the next one"

every sports bettor has said this to themselves before...and subsequently been heartbroken with trap games and back door covers. My degenerate days are over but I'll throw $20 on a game maybe once every few months

If the Lakers and Mavs played 100 games, how many do the Mavs win? How many do the Lakers win by more than 1.5 points?

If AD isn't a go, all bets are off but everything is looking like he's playing tonight and the Lakers should roll the Mavs something like 112-100.

tlm7995 · 11-01-2019, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

If the Lakers and Mavs played 100 games, how many do the Mavs win? How many do the Lakers win by more than 1.5 points?

If AD isn't a go, all bets are off but everything is looking like he's playing tonight and the Lakers should roll the Mavs something like 112-100.

10 dimes it is

Devi8or · 11-01-2019, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Pop is very much like Belichick in the sense that his players have very short leashes.

We don't see what happens in practice but if Lonnie isn't giving the effort or making the plays that Pop wants he's not going to play, plain and simple.

Pop is the greatest coach in NBA history in terms of what he has been able to accomplish with the level of talent he's been given. There's no better organization at developing young players.

Lonnie obviously isn't ready and he's not doing things the way he should be.

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

I know it's hard to be sitting on a stash of a player who's not playing but if anybody can get the best out of him it's Pop

I get what you guys are saying, and it's not about him being a stash player, if you've watched the Spurs this year, Belinelli has been dreadful....like I don't know how he gets minutes dreadful. They have Demarre Carroll, a proven vet and he hasn't even seen a regular season minute yet. Lonnie aside, I don't understand the overuse of Belinelli and the zero use of Carroll as well

jcardstore · 11-01-2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Devi8or

I get what you guys are saying, and it's not about him being a stash player, if you've watched the Spurs this year, Belinelli has been dreadful....like I don't know how he gets minutes dreadful. They have Demarre Carroll, a proven vet and he hasn't even seen a regular season minute yet. Lonnie aside, I don't understand the overuse of Belinelli and the zero use of Carroll as well

That's what I was saying because it's such a Pop thing to do. If you've watched the Spurs over the last 5-10 years it's the exact same script.

It's not line Lonnie was lighting it up all summer, he still looks very inconsistent.

You're right Belli has been horrible so far but he's obviously doing what Pop wants him to do.

Devi8or · 11-01-2019, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

That's what I was saying because it's such a Pop thing to do. If you've watched the Spurs over the last 5-10 years it's the exact same script.

It's not line Lonnie was lighting it up all summer, he still looks very inconsistent.

You're right Belli has been horrible so far but he's obviously doing what Pop wants him to do.

No, I get it. I've watched the Spurs since DRob was there. I know Pops way of doing things. It'll all pan out at some point this season, despite the way I view the lineup issues, they played the Clippers pretty close and that was with Aldridge essentially being a no-show and Murray having an off night.

I've been pleasantly surprised with the Derrick White of the past 2 games though, he was very passive and hesitant the first handful of games, now he's returned back to the form we saw from him at points last year. Aggressive on offense, taking shots and scoring buckets. Glad to see that

spurs50fan · 11-01-2019, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Pop is very much like Belichick in the sense that his players have very short leashes.

We don't see what happens in practice but if Lonnie isn't giving the effort or making the plays that Pop wants he's not going to play, plain and simple.

Pop is the greatest coach in NBA history in terms of what he has been able to accomplish with the level of talent he's been given. There's no better organization at developing young players.

Lonnie obviously isn't ready and he's not doing things the way he should be.

I think we all realize Lonnie isn't ready to contribute at the expected level. And if Lonnie wasn't close and wasn't contributing in practice, he'd be down in Austin with Keldon and Luka. The thing is though, this team is in a spot where they can afford to plug him in and bring him along. The payoff for this gamble isn't for a regular season win. They are cheap plus they have the vets to teach and cover a lot of mistakes. They do it often for DJ, Mills and Belli. Did it last year when White and Forbes was coming around.

Lonnie got 3-4 minutes in 3 home games. One of those games they were up 19 and he didn't see the floor. Yet he gets thrown at arguably their toughest opponent, on the road in a close game. Sounds like a set up lol. Some wisdom that may pay off later, sure, but to come down hard on him for mistakes? C'mon Pop

And Belichick has an obvious difference which is why his teams are still competitive. He sits/cuts vets equally if they aren't contributing. I love Marco but he hasn't been good on either side of the ball.

spurs50fan · 11-01-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Devi8or

definitely not, worse part is that Pop said Lonnie played "Horrible" and didn't utilize his minutes given

Sorry Pop, but the kid played 4 minutes last night, probably about 10 total all season.....how the hell is he supposed to learn from his mistakes and get better. This is the part about Pop that frustrates me the most, his refusal to let young guys get a chance yet he'll throw a washed up vet in there. Marco has been terrible, there's absolutely no way Lonnie could be worse if they swapped minutes.....plus he's paid way less

It's those type of mind-games that could run a player out of town

I know he means well and Pop will coach him up but what kind of investment are you willing to put into Marco/Demarre vs recent draft picks? And like you mentioned, it's not like Marco is holding it down

jcardstore · 11-01-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spurs50fan

I think we all realize Lonnie isn't ready to contribute at the expected level. And if Lonnie wasn't close and wasn't contributing in practice, he'd be down in Austin with Keldon and Luka. The thing is though, this team is in a spot where they can afford to plug him in and bring him along. The payoff for this gamble isn't for a regular season win. They are cheap plus they have the vets to teach and cover a lot of mistakes. They do it often for DJ, Mills and Belli. Did it last year when White and Forbes was coming around.

Lonnie got 3-4 minutes in 3 home games. One of those games they were up 19 and he didn't see the floor. Yet he gets thrown at arguably their toughest opponent, on the road in a close game. Sounds like a set up lol. Some wisdom that may pay off later, sure, but to come down hard on him for mistakes? C'mon Pop

And Belichick has an obvious difference which is why his teams are still competitive. He sits/cuts vets equally if they aren't contributing. I love Marco but he hasn't been good on either side of the ball.

I was just saying the reason Pop is able to maintain winning with guys he found in the junkyard garbage can is because of his way of doing things which rarely make sense in the moment.

We don't see practice so we have no idea whether Lonnie is in the dog house or not or whether he's not giving 100% effort or something else. Same with DeMarre.

spurs50fan · 11-01-2019, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

I was just saying the reason Pop is able to maintain winning with guys he found in the junkyard garbage can is because of his way of doing things which rarely make sense in the moment.

We don't see practice so we have no idea whether Lonnie is in the dog house or not or whether he's not giving 100% effort or something else. Same with DeMarre.

True. I was surprised to see Trey starting but he has fit it fairly well for someone new to the system. Still confused about DeMarre?

jcardstore · 11-01-2019, 02:03 PM

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True. I was surprised to see Trey starting but he has fit it fairly well for someone new to the system. Still confused about DeMarre?

I think Trey playing so well has absolutely cut into DeMarre's potential minutes.

Goldminer · 11-01-2019, 02:06 PM

Overall it appears that many, many players did not keep in shape over the off season. everybody fat, slow and sloppy..

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gomiamigo · 11-01-2019, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Wait, you mean Jahlil and Jabari aren’t just the same guy?

Here I’ve been thinking people were just pronouncing one of their names wrong the entire time

Jahlil's always been very skilled offensively, that's not why his game is a joke.

8/10 offense for his position, 2/10 defense, 3/10 rebounding.

gomiamigo · 11-01-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

I know it's hard to be sitting on a stash of a player who's not playing but if anybody can get the best out of him it's Pop

Pop is widely regarded as too hard on young players. And I don't mean by fans. Even great coaches have their flaws. Not every rookie is Tim Duncan or Kawhi Leonard.

Lonnie's never been accused of not giving 100% in practice at any level. If it's happening today, that'd be a big shock.

drobfan8 · 11-01-2019, 03:19 PM

So GS are totally screwed now. They don't have an NBA level roster.

The West is way too brutal and teams were already lining them up after 5 years of domination.

What do they do now? D. Lo might be in line for some big lines

tlm7995 · 11-01-2019, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

So GS are totally screwed now. They don't have an NBA level roster.

The West is way too brutal and teams were already lining them up after 5 years of domination.

What do they do now? D. Lo might be in line for some big lines

I think they trade D.Lo

So, the stacked West isn't as stacked as we thought it would be

Golden State: not going to make playoffs
Rockets: Worst defensive rating in NBA and lost Gerald Green for the year and have barely squeaked by in the games they have won. Westbrook's shot is just as broke as last year
Utah: Yes they have the best defensive rating but they are 27th in offense. I think Conley looks slow out there...not sure if it's age or offseason weight.
Denver: they've disappointed so far but I think they will contend
Lakers: real deal
Clippers: real deal

I didn't include Portland because I never thought they were contenders

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drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 17,868 drobfan8 drobfan8	So GS are totally screwed now. They don't have an NBA level roster. The West is way too brutal and teams were already lining them up after 5 years of domination. What do they do now? D. Lo might be in line for some big lines __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

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Goldminer Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 382	Overall it appears that many, many players did not keep in shape over the off season. everybody fat, slow and sloppy.. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk