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Old 11-24-2019, 09:26 PM   #2051
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How high does his silver PSA 10 get? $2k seems absurd due to qty, but obviously the demand is there.
$3K probably
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:27 PM   #2052
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Lots of fake auctions going on.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:27 PM   #2053
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How high does his silver PSA 10 get? $2k seems absurd due to qty, but obviously the demand is there.
I don't pay attention to the prices because i don't have any. I just read them all on here from you guys. That is crazy considering the qty, but everyone want's the next LeBron or whoever. I just used him as an example, but Luka is definitely special too. I think people are hoping to get in early before they're unattainable.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:28 PM   #2054
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-19-Chr...sAAOSwrxVd2roz

SOOOOO glad I snagged this a couple days back at the LCS for $30. I am thinking right now, you almost can't go wrong holding onto Luka. I will probably hold onto my Prizm bae, two Prizm Mosaic, and this Phoenix Red parallel for a while and see how crazy this ride gets
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:31 PM   #2055
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-19-Chr...sAAOSwrxVd2roz

SOOOOO glad I snagged this a couple days back at the LCS for $30. I am thinking right now, you almost can't go wrong holding onto Luka. I will probably hold onto my Prizm bae, two Prizm Mosaic, and this Phoenix Red parallel for a while and see how crazy this ride gets
I feel you on that one, but there's a small catch, if the player gets injured a la Derrick Rose the prices will go down down down.
Good find, I got that one as well, love the phoenix cards.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:33 PM   #2056
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Lots of fake auctions going on.
This is absolutely true, they are all running through Probstein as well. It’s easy to manipulate the market when it only costs you less than 10%. Sell and bid up to buy back and set the new market to sell others and sell it back. Especially if you razz, you can pay the 10% razz it and get the money back free.

There were quite a few people caught doing this with prospects in baseball.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:35 PM   #2057
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Sheesh, raw blue velocity just ended at $200
One just ended for $255. Wowzers
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:35 PM   #2058
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This is absolutely true, they are all running through Probstein as well. It’s easy to manipulate the market when it only costs you less than 10%. Sell and bid up to buy back and set the new market to sell others and sell it back. Especially if you razz, you can pay the 10% razz it and get the money back free.

There were quite a few people caught doing this with prospects in baseball.
What is “razz”
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:38 PM   #2059
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What is “razz”
I think these are on FAcebook.

Seller has a card for $100. Wants 10 spots, $10 per spot.

Sometimes a buyer can line it out, or basically purchase the card at the 10x10 asking price.

Or people say.. I want one spot. I want 3 spots.

Once all spots fill, the list is randomized and the top name "wins" the card.

I guess the term is a spinoff of RAFFLE?
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:40 PM   #2060
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I feel you on that one, but there's a small catch, if the player gets injured a la Derrick Rose the prices will go down down down.
Good find, I got that one as well, love the phoenix cards.
Thats the risk that we take with anyone in the sports world though. Luka and MVP Rose have such different styles of play that maybe that will help Luka stay healthy? I am praying!
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What is “razz”
Some dumb Facebook crap where spots get sold based on the going rate of the item being razzed. $2000 Silver you razz 100 spots at $20 each. One person walks away with the card.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:41 PM   #2062
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Sports card market is officially larger than it was in the 80s early 90s.

Every sport, every release, this is just madness.

Can't even imagine what MJ rookies and inserts would do in a market like this with him being in his prime. I've spent almost $1K on overpriced Lukas in the past 24 hours
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:42 PM   #2063
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I feel you on that one, but there's a small catch, if the player gets injured a la Derrick Rose the prices will go down down down.
Good find, I got that one as well, love the phoenix cards.
Anyone can get injured. High risk, high reward. If you want a sure thing, buy MJ, LeBron, Kobe.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:44 PM   #2064
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Anyone know the production run of Lebron Topps chrome refractor compared to Luka silver prizm? The reason i ask is that Lebron Topps chrome PSA 10 go for around $10k now so if they are comparable in terms of print run then the Luka still has room to grow
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:46 PM   #2065
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I think these are on FAcebook.

Seller has a card for $100. Wants 10 spots, $10 per spot.

Sometimes a buyer can line it out, or basically purchase the card at the 10x10 asking price.

Or people say.. I want one spot. I want 3 spots.

Once all spots fill, the list is randomized and the top name "wins" the card.

I guess the term is a spinoff of RAFFLE?
This is what a “razz” is, otherwise it’s a spin-off of a raffle as stated above.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:49 PM   #2066
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What is the silly price manipulation on this card?


7k with 2 days left

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LUKA-DONCIC...gAAOSwj39d1HCx

5k BIN

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Luka-Doncic...wAAOSwF9td2tbX

"sold" at 4k at auction

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LUKA-DONCIC...8AAOSw4xJdzJKs
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:50 PM   #2067
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Anyone know the production run of Lebron Topps chrome refractor compared to Luka silver prizm? The reason i ask is that Lebron Topps chrome PSA 10 go for around $10k now so if they are comparable in terms of print run then the Luka still has room to grow
Theres about 500 Lebron TCRs graded by PSA. Close to 2k Luka silvers graded by PSA.
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:03 PM   #2068
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Anyone know the production run of Lebron Topps chrome refractor compared to Luka silver prizm? The reason i ask is that Lebron Topps chrome PSA 10 go for around $10k now so if they are comparable in terms of print run then the Luka still has room to grow
~1200 Lebron TC Refractor
~5000 Luka Prizm Silver
~1200 Luka Optic Holo
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:05 PM   #2069
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~1200 Lebron TC Refractor
~5000 Luka Prizm Silver
~1200 Luka Optic Holo
what about Lukas Prizm color
-Green
-RWB
-Pink Ice
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:06 PM   #2070
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Anyone know the production run of Lebron Topps chrome refractor compared to Luka silver prizm? The reason i ask is that Lebron Topps chrome PSA 10 go for around $10k now so if they are comparable in terms of print run then the Luka still has room to grow
I believe I saw posted somewhere in here the print run of the Lebron Topps Chrome Refractor was 1,200. Luka Silver Prizm is believed to be around 5,200 so not really a good comparison.
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:16 PM   #2071
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~1200 Lebron TC Refractor
~5000 Luka Prizm Silver
~1200 Luka Optic Holo
Lebron TC Refractor is probably higher than 1200.
There are 1004 BGS graded + 484 PSA = 1488

Lebron TC Black refractor /500 print run
223 BGS graded + 108 PSA graded = 331 Graded/500 printed = 66.2%

1488 Refs graded / 66.2% = 2,247 est. print run on Lebron 2003 TC Refractor

It's not exact but that's some rough, quick math.
I'd guess at least 2500 print run.
2:1 Luka Silver to Lebron TC Refractor

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Old 11-24-2019, 10:24 PM   #2072
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~1200 Lebron TC Refractor
~5000 Luka Prizm Silver
~1200 Luka Optic Holo
Thank you so much
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:26 PM   #2073
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I believe I saw posted somewhere in here the print run of the Lebron Topps Chrome Refractor was 1,200. Luka Silver Prizm is believed to be around 5,200 so not really a good comparison.
Yes definitely not comparable to silver prizm but very much comparable to Optic holos. That is what i wanted to know
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:28 PM   #2074
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Are we at the point where we should be buying all 18-19 wax if we find it at SRP? Even status, donruss, and NBA hoops?
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:29 PM   #2075
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Man, those Select Concourse Lukas that just sold. The Red and Blue

Those prices are just nutty
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