Topps 582 Montgomery Club - Page 153

Wil · 12-05-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cj828282

I have to pay shipping still.

Huh. I ordered some of the new $100 rookie set in the same cart. Maybe that's why I got free shipping?

rippev · 12-05-2019, 05:20 PM

The more I look at the product, it seems like a really fun rip at $100. Lots of color.

cgilmo78 · 12-05-2019, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rippev

The more I look at the product, it seems like a really fun rip at $100. Lots of color.

There are 7 refractors per box.

Base refractors are /199

Total print run per player of all non base refractors is 260 per player

jeff24k · 12-05-2019, 05:32 PM

I now think the pre-sell on Tuesday never got close to selling out. They pulled it because of the Yordan printing error so they could evaluate the situation and figure out how to proceed. This created a false sense of the appeal of the product and led to a bunch of folks buying that originally probably wouldn't of (I'm guilty of this). That's okay though, these exclusive products don't rarely lose value. Worst case I should be able to re-sell and recoup my money.

yrocks2001 · 12-05-2019, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cgilmo78

There are 7 refractors per box.

Base refractors are /199

Total print run per player of all non base refractors is 260 per player

These numbers probably change some with moving some of the players from the MLB set to the MiLB set I'd imagine?

1977 Cloth · 12-05-2019, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff24k

I now think the pre-sell on Tuesday never got close to selling out. They pulled it because of the Yordan printing error so they could evaluate the situation and figure out how to proceed. This created a false sense of the appeal of the product and led to a bunch of folks buying that originally probably wouldn't of (I'm guilty of this). That's okay though, these exclusive products don't rarely lose value. Worst case I should be able to re-sell and recoup my money.

Does anyone have a screenshot of the original checklist with Yordan listed as a Rookie?

jebjeb1 · 12-05-2019, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cgilmo78

There are 7 refractors per box.

Base refractors are /199

Total print run per player of all non base refractors is 260 per player

Even the Black & White Parallel 1:3 packs have print run of only 266 copies per player.

Topps hasn't produced a Bowman product with a print run of less than 700 cases in over 15 years.

I can't even remember the last product I opened that had over 84 #d Refractors per 12 box case.

1977 Cloth · 12-05-2019, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

you are overthinking this one

You are not overthinking. This is why I bought. They are pulling the bait and switch again.

MikePiazzaPC · 12-05-2019, 05:55 PM

Pre sale window reopened for members who didn’t get to get into Bowman Heritage.
Nice move out of Topps.
Never going to make everyone happy but credit where credit is due

kyle121592 · 12-05-2019, 05:57 PM

Heritage should be pretty solid then I am guessing? Surprisingly, I am getting more Heritage this year from my dist than I have the past 4 I think.

rutgersjpm · 12-05-2019, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Accountant

Ugh, why couldn't they give yordan a chrome?

Because they can't make them in 3-4 weeks and repack the whole thing.

Someone screwed up big time. Probably the brand manager for Tatis X

OAC Cards · 12-05-2019, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by yrocks2001

These numbers probably change some with moving some of the players from the MLB set to the MiLB set I'd imagine?

The updated checklist shows Yordan Alvarez, Zack Collins, & Logan Allen as Base Prospects but not in the Chrome Prospects portion.

silverandblack · 12-05-2019, 06:06 PM

Gave in and bought 3 even though I’m not convinced it’s worth the price. I’ve spent more on worse things though so whatever

cgilmo78 · 12-05-2019, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jebjeb1

Even the Black & White Parallel 1:3 packs have print run of only 266 copies per player.

Topps hasn't produced a Bowman product with a print run of less than 700 cases in over 15 years.

I can't even remember the last product I opened that had over 84 #d Refractors per 12 box case.

These are very good signs for these boxes.

cgilmo78 · 12-05-2019, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

Does anyone have a screenshot of the original checklist with Yordan listed as a Rookie?

https://imgur.com/a/ufTBZRy

ThoseBackPages · 12-05-2019, 06:20 PM

man, imagine if they would have printed that! another Gordon situation indeed

ThoseBackPages · 12-05-2019, 06:20 PM

we also know how fast they can make a whole product now

2-3 weeks

22emmittfan · 12-05-2019, 06:22 PM

It still is open now just got my 3

1977 Cloth · 12-05-2019, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cgilmo78

https://imgur.com/a/ufTBZRy

Thank you.

ThoseBackPages · 12-05-2019, 06:26 PM

is Topps allowing returns for this?

DaRitz · 12-05-2019, 06:29 PM

It certainly appears they're reprinting this, if the new checklist is correct.

The old checklist was 121 vets and 129 prospects.

There are now 118 vets and 132 prospects. On the prospect side, Yordan, Allen, and Collins are 130, 131, and 132, which didn't exist before.

And unless they were the last three of the original Vets checklist (they weren't) then all of those cards have different numbers now as well... because the vets are now numbered sequentially to 118.

(Costello is still in this, and was also in Draft, so it looks like they can print his stuff.)

Crazy.

DaRitz · 12-05-2019, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaRitz

It certainly appears they're reprinting this, if the new checklist is correct.

The old checklist was 121 vets and 129 prospects.

There are now 118 vets and 132 prospects. On the prospect side, Yordan, Allen, and Collins are 130, 131, and 132, which didn't exist before.

And unless they were the last three of the original Vets checklist (they weren't) then all of those cards have different numbers now as well... because the vets are now numbered sequentially to 118.

(Costello is still in this, and was also in Draft, so it looks like they can print his stuff.)

Crazy.

Apologies for quoting myself, but now my question is...

How long until the backdoored wrong-numbered cards hit the market?!?!

If you don't see a bonfire at Topps HQ over the next couple of days, they'll appear some day.....

gamboooler · 12-05-2019, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

is Topps allowing returns for this?

I'll find out soon enough. I asked them to cancel my order given the delay.

smanzari · 12-05-2019, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

is Topps allowing returns for this?

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Originally Posted by gamboooler

I'll find out soon enough. I asked them to cancel my order given the delay.

Don't hold your breath -- see Topps X Tatis Thread

Angrycake · 12-05-2019, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smanzari

Don't hold your breath -- see Topps X Tatis Thread

I actually got a refund by being polite, pointing out why i was mad. It was 20 boxes because I love Tatis. I didnt need to chargeback. Sure it took them forever to respond, but they did.

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12-05-2019, 05:55 PM	#3809
MikePiazzaPC Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 238	Pre sale window reopened for members who didn’t get to get into Bowman Heritage. Nice move out of Topps. Never going to make everyone happy but credit where credit is due __________________ *over 2600 different Mike Piazza cards and counting*

12-05-2019, 06:20 PM	#3816
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,690 ThoseBackPages	man, imagine if they would have printed that! another Gordon situation indeed __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

12-05-2019, 06:20 PM	#3817
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,690 ThoseBackPages	we also know how fast they can make a whole product now 2-3 weeks __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

12-05-2019, 06:26 PM	#3820
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,690 ThoseBackPages	is Topps allowing returns for this? __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

12-05-2019, 05:20 PM	#3802
rippev Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,715	The more I look at the product, it seems like a really fun rip at $100. Lots of color.

12-05-2019, 05:32 PM	#3804
jeff24k Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 2,703 dapperntx	I now think the pre-sell on Tuesday never got close to selling out. They pulled it because of the Yordan printing error so they could evaluate the situation and figure out how to proceed. This created a false sense of the appeal of the product and led to a bunch of folks buying that originally probably wouldn't of (I'm guilty of this). That's okay though, these exclusive products don't rarely lose value. Worst case I should be able to re-sell and recoup my money.

12-05-2019, 05:57 PM	#3810
kyle121592 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: United States Posts: 3,407	Heritage should be pretty solid then I am guessing? Surprisingly, I am getting more Heritage this year from my dist than I have the past 4 I think.

12-05-2019, 06:06 PM	#3813
silverandblack Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3,865	Gave in and bought 3 even though I’m not convinced it’s worth the price. I’ve spent more on worse things though so whatever

12-05-2019, 06:22 PM	#3818
22emmittfan Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 2,501 22emmittfan	It still is open now just got my 3

12-05-2019, 06:29 PM	#3821
DaRitz Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: VA Posts: 1,101	It certainly appears they're reprinting this, if the new checklist is correct. The old checklist was 121 vets and 129 prospects. There are now 118 vets and 132 prospects. On the prospect side, Yordan, Allen, and Collins are 130, 131, and 132, which didn't exist before. And unless they were the last three of the original Vets checklist (they weren't) then all of those cards have different numbers now as well... because the vets are now numbered sequentially to 118. (Costello is still in this, and was also in Draft, so it looks like they can print his stuff.) Crazy.