Panini Blockchain - Page 2

smalltown · 12-19-2019, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Looks like pixels were removed...

Data corruption. PSA 6

yiguiri2002 · 12-19-2019, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

I suppose... Just don't see the demand, especially in the high-end realm. If I'm dropping multi-thousands on something I want it, not to have some digital copy stored somewhere on a Panini server. Having a digital copy that "lives forever" is of no value to me.

Maybe I'm in the minority here tho idk

I get it. I'm the same way. I don't think I'll ever be able to get into digital cards.

But I guess there's a market to this. I'll start by assuming that the big time cards (like logomen and RPAs) are gonna be worth 10-20% of their physical counterparts. Are there people out there who are willing to go through all of this to save that money? My guess is yes.

COMCMax · 12-19-2019, 09:52 AM

It's got a E-topps feel to it. If Panini loses its license down the road how much time/money do they invest to keep the program going?

Jopeal · 12-19-2019, 09:53 AM

So is there a point at which the digital card can be redeemed for the physical card? That’s the only way I can see this succeeding on a larger scale.

If the pixels are tied to a physical logoman auto, I can see the merits of this. Otherwise, it’s half-nonsense.

smalltown · 12-19-2019, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

It's got a E-topps feel to it. If Panini loses its license down the road how much time/money do they keep in the program going?

Zero.

Comix Guy · 12-19-2019, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

I'm not following. I work with blockchain in my free time and while it may be useful as a ledger to track physical items (think supply chain), there's no way to track a physical card if it's sold/traded offline so pretty pointless to then have a digital ledger that's not even accurate.

Unless they're using it like a crypto asset which again what's the point of having the physical card in that case.

It has nothing to do with blockchain and everything to do with having a digital copy of the card upon release.

Comix Guy · 12-19-2019, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jopeal

So is there a point at which the digital card can be redeemed for the physical card? That’s the only way I can see this succeeding on a larger scale.

If the pixels are tied to a physical logoman auto, I can see the merits of this. Otherwise, it’s half-nonsense.

Where have you seen that you don't get the card?
All users who purchase one of the digital cards from Panini will also receive a signed replica physical version.

dcarado · 12-19-2019, 10:21 AM

Interesting concept, may take some time to pan out, but could be a start to a new segment of collecting. Props to Panini for at least trying something new. It's a little ironic that they're moving into new tech ideas when they haven't even mastered a functioning website.

jcardstore · 12-19-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Comix Guy

It has nothing to do with blockchain and everything to do with having a digital copy of the card upon release.

Right, but that's literally what I said lol. They're using blockchain as a gimmicky buzzword to just push their digital cards.

Time will tell whether high end collectors are interested in this. I'm guessing no but I could very well be wrong

Deadshot · 12-19-2019, 10:31 AM

Do the digital copies still come with Sharpie marks on the back? If not, I'm out.

Comix Guy · 12-19-2019, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Right, but that's literally what I said lol. They're using blockchain as a gimmicky buzzword to just push their digital cards.

Time will tell whether high end collectors are interested in this. I'm guessing no but I could very well be wrong

Not really, you said it's either physical which cannot be tracked for offline sales OR digital like crypto. It's both in this case.

KhalDrogo · 12-19-2019, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WYTMKE

This is what I found
https://www.sporttechie.com/panini-a...-cards-auction

“will also receive a signed replica physical version”

Replica is a bad word choice

I’m not following what this means. What is a replica physical version?

Tonic3 · 12-19-2019, 10:34 AM

I hope this isn't like UD E-cards where you buy digital packs and then they send you the cards. Can you imagine the price of a digital Panini pack if it's guaranteed to contain a 1/1 logoman. That would get out of hand fast. Plus it would detract from people buying the physical boxes.

jcardstore · 12-19-2019, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Comix Guy

Not really, you said it's either physical which cannot be tracked for offline sales OR digital like crypto. It's both in this case.

True, guess I just don’t understand what a replica actually is. Plus I was speculating before I read the actual article

Comix Guy · 12-19-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

True, guess I just don’t understand what a replica actually is. Plus I was speculating before I read the actual article

Panini has not used the word "replica" in any of their information that I have seen. They don't really have much information out there about this product honestly.

This isn't the first time blockchain has been tried either:
https://medium.com/cryptostrikers/wh...n-c00112150033
https://www.cryptostrikers.com/

jcardstore · 12-19-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Comix Guy

Panini has not used the word "replica" in any of their information that I have seen. They don't really have much information out there about this product honestly.

This isn't the first time blockchain has been tried either:
https://medium.com/cryptostrikers/wh...n-c00112150033
https://www.cryptostrikers.com/

I saw that, seems to have pretty much died tho

KhalDrogo · 12-19-2019, 11:13 AM

So Panini is making extra NT Logoman autos and auctioning them off to make massive profit and dilute the value of the pack pulled version?

theleica · 12-19-2019, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

So Panini is making extra NT Logoman autos and auctioning them off to make massive profit and dilute the value of the pack pulled version?

Yes.

No longer need to buy into a million breaks or break boxes.

patchgenie · 12-19-2019, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

So Panini is making extra NT Logoman autos and auctioning them off to make massive profit and dilute the value of the pack pulled version?

yep. should be called panini buy one off the line.

Luni · 12-19-2019, 11:39 AM

This seems like Panini is trying to get into the digital card market, but they know a lot of people wouldn't jump in for strictly digital cards. This is kind of like how a lot of people wouldn't touch something like Magic the Gathering Online if they didn't have the trade in program. In that game if you collect a full set before they retire it, you can trade the digital version for a physical version. However, with something like a Logoman Autograph I'm not sure why anyone would prefer the digital version to the physical 'replica'. They should make this where you get the digital card only and then for a fee you could redeem it for a physical copy and the digital would be deleted at that point. However, if they did that I think people would almost just always redeem the cards which kind of defeats the purpose.

smalltown · 12-19-2019, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Luni

This seems like Panini is trying to get into the digital card market, but they know a lot of people wouldn't jump in for strictly digital cards. This is kind of like how a lot of people wouldn't touch something like Magic the Gathering Online if they didn't have the trade in program. In that game if you collect a full set before they retire it, you can trade the digital version for a physical version. However, with something like a Logoman Autograph I'm not sure why anyone would prefer the digital version to the physical 'replica'. They should make this where you get the digital card only and then for a fee you could redeem it for a physical copy and the digital would be deleted at that point. However, if they did that I think people would almost just always redeem the cards which kind of defeats the purpose.

They're already in the Digital card market and it's not exactly lighting the world on fire.

jcardstore · 12-19-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

They're already in the Digital card market and it's not exactly lighting the world on fire.

Shocker that most people don't care about digital cards.

smalltown · 12-19-2019, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Shocker that most people don't care about digital cards.

I've been in meetings about "toys and collectibles" and it always turns to some person spouting off about how people(KIDS) "only want video games, tv or apps" and that's why sales are falling. Except it's almost never true. People prefer actual books. Kids still collect Pokemon cards. Small stuffed animals outsell app enhanced ones.

In the end it comes down to money. Companies think Digital is the road to future profits. Instead of focusing on marketing and price point which is more often the best way to grow a base.

Comix Guy · 12-19-2019, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Luni

This seems like Panini is trying to get into the digital card market, but they know a lot of people wouldn't jump in for strictly digital cards. This is kind of like how a lot of people wouldn't touch something like Magic the Gathering Online if they didn't have the trade in program. In that game if you collect a full set before they retire it, you can trade the digital version for a physical version. However, with something like a Logoman Autograph I'm not sure why anyone would prefer the digital version to the physical 'replica'. They should make this where you get the digital card only and then for a fee you could redeem it for a physical copy and the digital would be deleted at that point. However, if they did that I think people would almost just always redeem the cards which kind of defeats the purpose.

You're correct. That's exactly what they are doing while also potentially protecting the integrity of the cards being offered.
Again though, the only place that has said "replica" is some off brand sports site not strictly dedicated to sportscards.

ThePackLife · 12-19-2019, 11:55 AM

If this is like UpperDeck E Pack then this can get nutty. Imagine breaking NT priced digital boxes. I did this a few times with Goodwin and I buought a ridiculous amount because of how easy it was, way more than I wanted to coming in. This will ruin paypal accounts and credit lines real quick. Lol

12-19-2019, 09:52 AM	#28
COMCMax Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,912 Maximoose	It's got a E-topps feel to it. If Panini loses its license down the road how much time/money do they invest to keep the program going? Last edited by COMCMax; 12-19-2019 at 09:58 AM.

12-19-2019, 10:31 AM	#35
Deadshot Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 7,694	Do the digital copies still come with Sharpie marks on the back? If not, I'm out. __________________ He said he name was “E”, so I introduced myself as “G”...The license plate said “IMNBITZ” or “IMNBISZ” or something. - G YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPuD3WYJ0rkpLqDdyavC2WA

12-19-2019, 11:13 AM	#42
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,410	So Panini is making extra NT Logoman autos and auctioning them off to make massive profit and dilute the value of the pack pulled version? __________________ I love PSA!

12-19-2019, 11:39 AM	#45
Luni Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NC, USA Posts: 1,406 Luninutz Luni	This seems like Panini is trying to get into the digital card market, but they know a lot of people wouldn't jump in for strictly digital cards. This is kind of like how a lot of people wouldn't touch something like Magic the Gathering Online if they didn't have the trade in program. In that game if you collect a full set before they retire it, you can trade the digital version for a physical version. However, with something like a Logoman Autograph I'm not sure why anyone would prefer the digital version to the physical 'replica'. They should make this where you get the digital card only and then for a fee you could redeem it for a physical copy and the digital would be deleted at that point. However, if they did that I think people would almost just always redeem the cards which kind of defeats the purpose. __________________ Kevin Garnett Collector https://www.instagram.com/luni_kg 2018-19 Prizm Rainbow Status: 38/38 - Now Complete!

12-19-2019, 11:55 AM	#50
ThePackLife Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,001	If this is like UpperDeck E Pack then this can get nutty. Imagine breaking NT priced digital boxes. I did this a few times with Goodwin and I buought a ridiculous amount because of how easy it was, way more than I wanted to coming in. This will ruin paypal accounts and credit lines real quick. Lol __________________ FOMO is REAL!

12-19-2019, 09:53 AM	#29
Jopeal Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: RI Posts: 8,153 dr.jopeal	So is there a point at which the digital card can be redeemed for the physical card? That’s the only way I can see this succeeding on a larger scale. If the pixels are tied to a physical logoman auto, I can see the merits of this. Otherwise, it’s half-nonsense.

12-19-2019, 10:21 AM	#33
dcarado Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,575 dcarado56	Interesting concept, may take some time to pan out, but could be a start to a new segment of collecting. Props to Panini for at least trying something new. It's a little ironic that they're moving into new tech ideas when they haven't even mastered a functioning website.

12-19-2019, 10:34 AM	#38
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,514	I hope this isn't like UD E-cards where you buy digital packs and then they send you the cards. Can you imagine the price of a digital Panini pack if it's guaranteed to contain a 1/1 logoman. That would get out of hand fast. Plus it would detract from people buying the physical boxes.