Lebron 03-04 Topps Chrome PSA vs. BGS

janton79 · 01-30-2020, 04:57 PM

I have a PSA 9 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James card and I was thinking upgrading to a BGS 9 or PSA 10. In looking at prior Ebay sales, I was really surprised to see the price variance.

Recent PSA 9's have sold for around $800. BGS 9.5's are more than double that, coming in just below $2000. And PSA 10's have been in the high $2000's to mid $3000's.

What's the reason for the spread? Seems out of whack compared to other cards. And what do you think the best value is for a long term hold?

ThoseBackPages · 01-30-2020, 05:05 PM

i would stand pat and be pleased to own one

Lancia Stratos · 01-30-2020, 05:07 PM

BGS 9.5 is more than PSA 9 because they’re different grades

sickmantz · 01-30-2020, 05:08 PM

Wish I had pulled the trigger when PSA 10s were closer to $1k last year. Wasn't expecting this kind of jump. So arbitrary.

janton79 · 01-30-2020, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos

BGS 9.5 is more than PSA 9 because they’re different grades

Right, but is the grade difference worth 2x in price?

rats60 · 01-30-2020, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by janton79

Right, but is the grade difference worth 2x in price?

That is the game being played. That is why you see so many altered cards show up in the BODA threads. Take a 9, trim a little off and it is a 10 and profit. I would keep the 9 rather than chase after what are probably altered cards.

whiteboybill · 01-30-2020, 05:38 PM

I currently own one PSA 9 that I bought two years ago for 100.00....wouldn't mind owning a higher grade, but I too am staying pat with it....I never liked Lebron but thought I needed one for my collection....now that I see what they're selling for, I wish I had bought a few more.

Deadshot · 01-30-2020, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

That is the game being played. That is why you see so many altered cards show up in the BODA threads. Take a 9, trim a little off and it is a 10 and profit. I would keep the 9 rather than chase after what are probably altered cards.

Have we seen a trimmed LeBron Chrome? I don't recall seeing much of anything of the Chrome variety.

isles4life · 01-30-2020, 07:25 PM

to think i owned 5 of these at one time, sigh

ThoseBackPages · 01-30-2020, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadshot

Have we seen a trimmed LeBron Chrome? I don't recall seeing much of anything of the Chrome variety.

plenty of trimmed base RCs, of all varieties. as long as there is money to be made, the "bad actors" are all over it

Boomer105 · 01-30-2020, 07:51 PM

PSA 10s are about to cross the $4000 mark

Pblev26 · 01-30-2020, 09:01 PM

Upgrading isn’t a bad idea, but prices are at all time highs and theres a big spread, as you mention. Nothing wrong with staying pat, as a PSA 9 is a great card. The most tolerable upgrade would be to a BGS 9.5 with 9.5, 9.5, 9.5, 9 sub grades as those will command a little less than 4 9.5’s or one with a 10 sub grade. However, even those are above $1,500 now. I was fortunate enough to purchase one maybe 5 years ago for a fraction of that - which i thought was a lot at the time.

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3124508 on COMC · 01-30-2020, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadshot

Have we seen a trimmed LeBron Chrome? I don't recall seeing much of anything of the Chrome variety.

All the time. Had to advise someone to not buy this short (T/B) Breaker's Rowe copy last week.

PelicanFly · 01-30-2020, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

All the time. Had to advise someone to not buy this short (T/B) Breaker's Rowe copy last week.

I wonder how PWCC is doing stopping those bad apples from submitting trimmed cards. Doesn't seem like much has changed in the last few months.

aramwot · 01-30-2020, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PelicanFly

I wonder how PWCC is doing stopping those bad apples from submitting trimmed cards. Doesn't seem like much has changed in the last few months.

Sorry to sound noob but I am a noob to this scene. How exactly do they trim/trick the grading company?

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Asian62150 · 01-30-2020, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer105

PSA 10s are about to cross the $4000 mark

Crazy...They were $2K 2 months ago and $1K over the summer...

sandlotsportcards · 01-31-2020, 12:44 AM

Crazy how quickly they are climbing. My BGS has 3 9.5 and a 10 for surface. Didn’t expect to see that in the 2k range for value.

PelicanFly · 01-31-2020, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aramwot

Sorry to sound noob but I am a noob to this scene. How exactly do they trim/trick the grading company?

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You're implying the grading companies care and check.

They dont.

01-30-2020, 04:57 PM	#1
janton79 Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 75 Jja61820	Lebron 03-04 Topps Chrome PSA vs. BGS I have a PSA 9 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James card and I was thinking upgrading to a BGS 9 or PSA 10. In looking at prior Ebay sales, I was really surprised to see the price variance. Recent PSA 9's have sold for around $800. BGS 9.5's are more than double that, coming in just below $2000. And PSA 10's have been in the high $2000's to mid $3000's. What's the reason for the spread? Seems out of whack compared to other cards. And what do you think the best value is for a long term hold?

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whiteboybill Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,064 chitownbulls75	I currently own one PSA 9 that I bought two years ago for 100.00....wouldn't mind owning a higher grade, but I too am staying pat with it....I never liked Lebron but thought I needed one for my collection....now that I see what they're selling for, I wish I had bought a few more. __________________ I collect D Rose and Giannis

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Lancia Stratos Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 217	BGS 9.5 is more than PSA 9 because they’re different grades

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Pblev26 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 79	Upgrading isn’t a bad idea, but prices are at all time highs and theres a big spread, as you mention. Nothing wrong with staying pat, as a PSA 9 is a great card. The most tolerable upgrade would be to a BGS 9.5 with 9.5, 9.5, 9.5, 9 sub grades as those will command a little less than 4 9.5’s or one with a 10 sub grade. However, even those are above $1,500 now. I was fortunate enough to purchase one maybe 5 years ago for a fraction of that - which i thought was a lot at the time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ High end collector of Jordan/Kobe/Lebron/Durant with some Kawhi/Giannis/Curry sprinkled in. Always willing to trade and talk about the hobby

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sandlotsportcards Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Massillon Ohio Posts: 3,171 sandlotsportcards nkirkbride	Crazy how quickly they are climbing. My BGS has 3 9.5 and a 10 for surface. Didn’t expect to see that in the 2k range for value.