What a nightmare - Page 6

SamAxe51 · 03-26-2020, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

This is the last I'm gonna say something about this entire stupid situation.

...then continues to post 8 more times in the thread.

CollectorMan · 03-27-2020, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Don't need to suck up to me, kid...

How is that sucking up by stating a fact?

My gawds...Didn't realize you owned Tom Brady's fandom.

CollectorMan · 03-27-2020, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SamAxe51

...then continues to post 8 more times in the thread.

Cool story. I'm going to defend myself. You good with that? Yeah I don't care.

CollectorMan · 03-27-2020, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Nothing like that ever happened, just posting on the way you conducted yourself in this situation.

Awesome nothing happened, so you can go back to being that in my life...nothing.

CollectorMan · 03-27-2020, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kevbojones

Such drama

Such new accounts.

CollectorMan · 03-27-2020, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LondonGames

You have no reading comprehension. No wonder you made such a stupid scam and still defend it.

I didn't insinuate that you had anger towards the buyer. I said very clearly, or as you'd say 'literally', why would you have anger towards the buyer? There was no reason for you to say you have no anger towards him, because you'd have no reason to.

Right, I'm a troll for seeing you as scamming. Or, you can't read & labeling everyone else as wrong and still not being able to see what you did.

I still have no anger for the person that tried to defraud me. The buyer got the exact card I was advertising. I'm not a grader, and nobody selling a raw card should profess to be one either. I don't do refunds, way to much room for buyer manipulation and I won't do it, and it's what happened here and what happened with PR. That was blowout sponsored Prospect Rush....

I sent the exact card in my ad. He received it. He made a PP claim and lost.

He was advised by a forum member to lie, so he lied on a second pp claim and lost again. The end. I've explained this several times so I'm guessing reading comprehension is not your strong suite. You were trolling. Very clever stuff

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 11:07 AM

Just can’t walk away

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 11:07 AM

Just ignore everyone and let this die

KevJo · 03-27-2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

I still have no anger for the person that tried to defraud me. The buyer got the exact card I was advertising. I'm not a grader, and nobody selling a raw card should profess to be one either. I don't do refunds, way to much room for buyer manipulation and I won't do it, and it's what happened here and what happened with PR. That was blowout sponsored Prospect Rush....

I sent the exact card in my ad. He received it. He made a PP claim and lost.

He was advised by a forum member to lie, so he lied on a second pp claim and lost again. The end. I've explained this several times so I'm guessing reading comprehension is not your strong suite. You were trolling. Very clever stuff

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

Such new accounts.

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

Awesome nothing happened, so you can go back to being that in my life...nothing.

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

How is that sucking up by stating a fact?

My gawds...Didn't realize you owned Tom Brady's fandom.

tier1dc · 03-27-2020, 02:40 PM

free2131 · 03-27-2020, 09:04 PM

I want to ask you a question without any malice or double meaning behind it.

I'm gathering this from your own post about the transaction. You posted the card for sale and didn't notice the scratch. It happens to all of us. It's easy to miss things.

When the buyer received the card, he saw the scratch. You also admitted to seeing the scratch after it was pointed out. Again, I don't think you knew about it and sold it without disclosing it.

When you did notice the scratch, why wouldn't you take a return? It is a defect (that I wouldn't care about if I collected the player) and it wasn't noticed by you, so it wasn't disclosed in the post for the sale. I understand if you had pointed it out and the buyer then wanted to return it, but if it was a legit concern and wasn't an attempt to return a card that lost value because of a market shift, why not take the return? If you bought a decorative item at, say, Walmart, and when you got home noticed a scratch on it that made it no longer appealing to you, wouldn't you return it? If you did decide to return it, would you be upset and think Walmart was in the wrong if they wouldn't take it back?

Honestly, you do seem really defensive, and to be fair, I don't think you deserve to be called a scammer, but you agree that the card had an issue you didn't see on it. The buyer wasn't lying about that. I know you've made it clear you don't value other's opinions on the matter, but I think in this instance it would have been fair to take a return and then simply list the card with the defect pointed out, don't you think?

cking · 03-27-2020, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by free2131

I want to ask you a question without any malice or double meaning behind it.

I'm gathering this from your own post about the transaction. You posted the card for sale and didn't notice the scratch. It happens to all of us. It's easy to miss things.

When the buyer received the card, he saw the scratch. You also admitted to seeing the scratch after it was pointed out. Again, I don't think you knew about it and sold it without disclosing it.

When you did notice the scratch, why wouldn't you take a return? It is a defect (that I wouldn't care about if I collected the player) and it wasn't noticed by you, so it wasn't disclosed in the post for the sale. I understand if you had pointed it out and the buyer then wanted to return it, but if it was a legit concern and wasn't an attempt to return a card that lost value because of a market shift, why not take the return? If you bought a decorative item at, say, Walmart, and when you got home noticed a scratch on it that made it no longer appealing to you, wouldn't you return it? If you did decide to return it, would you be upset and think Walmart was in the wrong if they wouldn't take it back?

Honestly, you do seem really defensive, and to be fair, I don't think you deserve to be called a scammer, but you agree that the card had an issue you didn't see on it. The buyer wasn't lying about that. I know you've made it clear you don't value other's opinions on the matter, but I think in this instance it would have been fair to take a return and then simply list the card with the defect pointed out, don't you think?

How dare you bring logic and reason into this thread

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 10:28 PM

CollectorMan · 03-28-2020, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by free2131

I want to ask you a question without any malice or double meaning behind it.

I'm gathering this from your own post about the transaction. You posted the card for sale and didn't notice the scratch. It happens to all of us. It's easy to miss things.

When the buyer received the card, he saw the scratch. You also admitted to seeing the scratch after it was pointed out. Again, I don't think you knew about it and sold it without disclosing it.

When you did notice the scratch, why wouldn't you take a return? It is a defect (that I wouldn't care about if I collected the player) and it wasn't noticed by you, so it wasn't disclosed in the post for the sale. I understand if you had pointed it out and the buyer then wanted to return it, but if it was a legit concern and wasn't an attempt to return a card that lost value because of a market shift, why not take the return? If you bought a decorative item at, say, Walmart, and when you got home noticed a scratch on it that made it no longer appealing to you, wouldn't you return it? If you did decide to return it, would you be upset and think Walmart was in the wrong if they wouldn't take it back?

Honestly, you do seem really defensive, and to be fair, I don't think you deserve to be called a scammer, but you agree that the card had an issue you didn't see on it. The buyer wasn't lying about that. I know you've made it clear you don't value other's opinions on the matter, but I think in this instance it would have been fair to take a return and then simply list the card with the defect pointed out, don't you think?

No I don't agree. I am not a Walmart and don't do returns. This is not my job. On top of that he lied the 2nd time on his PayPal claim. The matter is closed.

CollectorMan · 03-28-2020, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

You have nearly 38k posts over five years and I'm beating a dead horse...k.

CollectorMan · 03-28-2020, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tier1dc

Nice negative. "PP claim never returned."

Very funny picture though. Really cool how you went to a different site to copy and pastethis super funny gif in the thread. All for me! I'm honored by how much you want me to see your comedy. Well done.

CollectorMan · 03-28-2020, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KevJo

Awesome copy and pasting. Thank for spending the time sharing your comedy. Made a major impact in me

Siberian13 · 03-28-2020, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

You have nearly 38k posts over five years and I'm beating a dead horse...k.

The gif is in reference to the posters like free2131

Keep rolling them eyes

free2131 · 03-28-2020, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

No I don't agree. I am not a Walmart and don't do returns.

If he lied, he obviously shouldn't get rewarded for that, I completely agree.

For the quoted, though, are you suggesting that if someone who purchases a card from you finds a defect that neither they nor you noticed and was not plainly clear on a scan or pic of the card (one that you agree is there when it is pointed out), you wouldn't take a return on it?

Can you see how people would find that to be a bad business practice? It would be one thing if this was a case of a card describe as NMT and the buyer wanting a gem and trying to return, but there is an obvious defect that you admit wasn't disclosed by you (again, with no malice on your part).

I'm just trying to get you to see things from the buyers perspective and ask what you would want to happen if you were the buyer. Until the lie on the 2nd claim, they did nothing underhanded. The product they received was damaged in a way that wasn't plainly described.

This matter may be closed, but going forward, I do hope you'll take the valid criticism that you've been given (ignoring the insults and accusations of scamming).

shrevecity · 03-28-2020, 11:55 AM

Not worth it...

tonedef2oo8 · 03-28-2020, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

You've been here for over ten years and have done ZERO deals. Your opinion is moot on any business transaction. I didn't scam anyone. Thanks though.

Most scammers when looking to distract from their stupidity point this out.

So I’ll ask you please show me where one can’t post in the transaction forum with zero itrader?

Better yet I have better feedback than you now therefore you should take your own advice. Ya know since feedback is important to you.

tonedef2oo8 · 03-28-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Just can’t walk away

Because ya know we have no lives...

Don’t worry he’ll be gone soon enough . Id put money on it .

tonedef2oo8 · 03-28-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CollectorMan

No I don't agree. I am not a Walmart and don't do returns. This is not my job. On top of that he lied the 2nd time on his PayPal claim. The matter is closed.

Lmao

So now we know he don’t Accept returns. Therefore make sure we post this in every transaction post that he “forgets” to .

Problem solved. Good luck selling lol

tonedef2oo8 · 03-28-2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by free2131

If he lied, he obviously shouldn't get rewarded for that, I completely agree.

For the quoted, though, are you suggesting that if someone who purchases a card from you finds a defect that neither they nor you noticed and was not plainly clear on a scan or pic of the card (one that you agree is there when it is pointed out), you wouldn't take a return on it?

Can you see how people would find that to be a bad business practice? It would be one thing if this was a case of a card describe as NMT and the buyer wanting a gem and trying to return, but there is an obvious defect that you admit wasn't disclosed by you (again, with no malice on your part).

I'm just trying to get you to see things from the buyers perspective and ask what you would want to happen if you were the buyer. Until the lie on the 2nd claim, they did nothing underhanded. The product they received was damaged in a way that wasn't plainly described.

This matter may be closed, but going forward, I do hope you'll take the valid criticism that you've been given (ignoring the insults and accusations of scamming).

Don’t waste your time they are a fraud who is gaming the system, they know the other side because they do this often. Guy literally sells a damaged card and thinks he’s right. Yet if he got something damaged you bet your rear he’s be on here whining. It’s what his type does. It’s all about him.

hche · 03-28-2020, 05:29 PM

Now he is going to come back and reply to every single post from 143 to 149. Oh, may be even this one, 150.

03-27-2020, 11:07 AM	#132
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03-27-2020, 11:07 AM	#133
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 79,060 shiller13	Just ignore everyone and let this die __________________ 2025 Blowout Fantasy Football Champion O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

03-27-2020, 09:04 PM	#136
free2131 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5,367	I want to ask you a question without any malice or double meaning behind it. I'm gathering this from your own post about the transaction. You posted the card for sale and didn't notice the scratch. It happens to all of us. It's easy to miss things. When the buyer received the card, he saw the scratch. You also admitted to seeing the scratch after it was pointed out. Again, I don't think you knew about it and sold it without disclosing it. When you did notice the scratch, why wouldn't you take a return? It is a defect (that I wouldn't care about if I collected the player) and it wasn't noticed by you, so it wasn't disclosed in the post for the sale. I understand if you had pointed it out and the buyer then wanted to return it, but if it was a legit concern and wasn't an attempt to return a card that lost value because of a market shift, why not take the return? If you bought a decorative item at, say, Walmart, and when you got home noticed a scratch on it that made it no longer appealing to you, wouldn't you return it? If you did decide to return it, would you be upset and think Walmart was in the wrong if they wouldn't take it back? Honestly, you do seem really defensive, and to be fair, I don't think you deserve to be called a scammer, but you agree that the card had an issue you didn't see on it. The buyer wasn't lying about that. I know you've made it clear you don't value other's opinions on the matter, but I think in this instance it would have been fair to take a return and then simply list the card with the defect pointed out, don't you think? __________________ “I exploit you, still you love me. I tell you one and one makes three.” - Living Colour

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Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 79,060 shiller13	__________________ 2025 Blowout Fantasy Football Champion O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave

03-28-2020, 11:55 AM	#145
shrevecity Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28,059	Not worth it... Last edited by shrevecity; 03-28-2020 at 09:35 PM.

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03-28-2020, 05:29 PM	#150
hche Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,300	Now he is going to come back and reply to every single post from 143 to 149. Oh, may be even this one, 150. __________________ I would ban you but I have no sway or pull here.