Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[Snakeonia]

My body is ready


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[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

I would take this with a serious grain of salt. It's based on only the very last sale and based on some of the sales, such as Shore Rivera, you haven't done anything to vet whether or not those prices are still meaningful. For that card specifically, the last bid in that auction was placed on May 26.

Then just ignore him? He never claimed to be 100% accurate with only legit sales or your money back.

Why blast him, he’s doing work on his own time that I don’t see you doing?

Thanks for posting those, it’s a nice quick glance at a rough estimate of what’s going on. I appreciate you!


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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

I would take this with a serious grain of salt. It's based on only the very last sale and based on some of the sales, such as Shore Rivera, you haven't done anything to vet whether or not those prices are still meaningful. For that card specifically, the last bid in that auction was placed on May 26.

[Howie7107]

Originally Posted by TheChukler

You can go do that yourself tho...sheesh

I do. However, it's slightly irresponsible to post prices on a forum as a "current comp" without doing your due diligence.

[dizzydolse]

Originally Posted by tnolan816

Most recent data pull:

Current Comp of the Set 1-96: $19660 - 6/02/2020 05:00 PM Central

Previous Total Comp of the Set 1-96: $19753 - 6/02/2020 11:00 AM Central

Card # Artist Player Print Run Current Comp
1 Baller Ichiro 1334 1800
2 Rochester Koufax 1135 550
3 Naturel Robinson 1302 490
4 Ermsy Trout 2911 965
5 Fucci Ripken 1205 635
6 Saladeen Griffey 2504 520
7 Grotesk Gibson 1205 460
8 Chang Rivera 1617 365
9 JK5 Williams 1385 405
10 Cartoon Clemente 1844 455
11 Siff Brett 1227 515
12 Beck Gooden 1065 960
13 Shore Mattingly 1686 290
14 Vides Henderson 1221 355
15 Thiele Mays 1464 290
16 Oldmanalan Gwynn 1302 250
17 Efdot McGwire 1456 350
18 Jamieson Ryan 2623 180
19 Naturel Clemente 1819 160
20 Rochester Ripken 1576 100
21 Taylor Henderson 2104 225
22 Ermsy Ichiro 1972 405
23 Baller Thomas 2836 355
24 Grotesk Gwynn 1441 200
25 Beck Griffey 3707 145
26 Vides Gooden 1101 495
27 Efdot Mays 1480 260
28 Shore McGwire 1199 495
29 Saladeen Jeter 9873 80
30 Siff Ryan 2215 150
31 Chang Robinson 2741 160
32 JK5 Ichiro 1798 230
33 Jamieson Mattingly 2409 170
34 Fucci Williams 1131 350
35 Thiele Trout 13200 90
36 Oldmanalan Koufax 2488 130
37 Beck Ripken 2621 85
38 Ermsy Gooden 1864 250
39 Taylor Jeter 9322 75
40 Naturel Gwynn 2319 130
41 Vides Rivera 2452 105
42 Jamieson Robinson 2980 100
43 Cartoon Brett 2360 100
44 Rochester Thomas 1480 235
45 Grotesk Clemente 1910 150
46 Chang Gibson 1268 300
47 Saladeen Mattingly 2763 125
48 JK5 Mays 1556 200
49 Thiele Koufax 2149 155
50 Siff Ripken 2369 175
51 Baller Trout 34950 50
52 Efdot Ryan 4103 100
53 Taylor Griffey 4236 90
54 Shore Gibson 1451 340
55 Beck Brett 1992 175
56 Oldmanalan Rivera 1127 450
57 Jamieson Henderson 3819 105
58 Ermsy Williams 4859 80
59 Grotesk Jeter 6511 115
60 Naturel McGwire 2687 115
61 Saladeen Mays 5459 60
62 Chang Ichiro 6207 60
63 Fucci Trout 16430 75
64 Vides Gwynn 3368 105
65 Cartoon Gooden 5041 85
66 Rochester Griffey 9356 50
67 Thiele Ryan 7383 55
68 JK5 Clemente 8518 55
69 Siff Mattingly 7900 70
70 Beck Gibson 6757 60
71 Baller Henderson 15741 65
72 Shore Rivera 9545 70
73 Don C Thomas 11969 105
74 Efdot Williams 8897 90
75 Grotesk Brett 5638 85
76 Fucci Koufax 6607 70
77 Saladeen Ichiro 11425 60
78 Oldmanalan Clemente 8610 40
79 Cartoon Robinson 11643 45
80 Chang Mays 10480 45
81 Jamieson McGwire 18205 50
82 Thiele Jeter 20974 40
83 Taylor Thomas 8806 50
84 Ermsy Gibson 14867 60
85 Rochester Trout 33818 35
86 Baller Gooden 25928 30
87 Vides Ryan 64629 19
88 Shore Griffey 99177 17
89 Naturel Koufax 43147 18
90 Oldmanalan Williams 41407 19
91 JK5 Rivera 35330 19
92 Don C Ripken 41392 24
93 Siff Jeter 48465 22
94 Efdot Gwynn 31030 24
95 Cartoon Mattingly 27299 20
96 Fucci Thomas 22911 23


Evening price update bump. The 1-96 only lost $93 from the previous update. Steel City Collectibles buying first 10 cards also contributed to a floor. Lots of confidence reappearing into the market, it seems.

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

I do. However, it's slightly irresponsible to post prices on a forum as a "current comp" without doing your due diligence.

*checks join date*

Yup, makes sense.


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[Howie7107]

Originally Posted by AlexHunter

Then just ignore him? He never claimed to be 100% accurate with only legit sales or your money back.

Why blast him, he’s doing work on his own time that I don’t see you doing?

Thanks for posting those, it’s a nice quick glance at a rough estimate of what’s going on. I appreciate you!


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It's at least slightly irresponsible to post prices of cards without doing some due diligence, whether you like it or not.

[mudflap02]

Current comp - Shore Griffey, $3000.

[Howie7107]

Originally Posted by mudflap02

Current comp - Shore Griffey, $3000.

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

I do. However, it's slightly irresponsible to post prices on a forum as a "current comp" without doing your due diligence.

There’s a p2020 thread for salty old farts. It’s titled “Project 2020” or something else lame. Check it out!!! This is a pump thread





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[mudflap02]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

It's at least slightly irresponsible to post prices of cards without doing some due diligence, whether you like it or not.

Nope. It’s irresponsible of you to believe them without checking for yourself.

I appreciate the work our dude is doing. Metrics may not be perfect but they are better than the data anyone else is publicly providing for free at the moment.

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

It's at least slightly irresponsible to post prices of cards without doing some due diligence, whether you like it or not.

Omg then block him and let us read the irresponsibility then.


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[ThoseBackPages]

[yanksfan0134]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Convenient to name the online place that nobody is actually buying or selling cards on. People literally found it a couple of weeks ago. But don't mind the outlet (eBay) that 95% of the buying & selling is happening on. Good move!

If prices are cheaper and buyers can’t back out of deals on StockX, why bother selling on eBay? You also have to take into account the fact that somewhere around 5-10% of the auctions that are ending on eBay at high prices doesn’t get paid for and is skewing the eBay market.

As a side note, StockX didn’t start selling P2020 until last week, so it’s fairly new to the game.

[ThoseBackPages]

i like to buy on Topps.com

[Howie7107]

Originally Posted by mudflap02

Nope. It’s irresponsible of you to believe them without checking for yourself.

I appreciate the work our dude is doing. Metrics may not be perfect but they are better than the data anyone else is publicly providing for free at the moment.

As previously stated, I have done my due diligence. However, if you think there aren't people who would take his word as gospel on the forum you're sadly mistaken. Simply letting them know, and perhaps he may appreciate knowing that he might be missing something. No reason to get your panties in a bunch.

[kajshack]

If the deals on Stockx are so great, people should be doing some online arbitrage.

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

[mudflap02]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

As previously stated, I have done my due diligence. However, if you think there aren't people who would take his word as gospel on the forum you're sadly mistaken. Simply letting them know, and perhaps he may appreciate knowing that he might be missing something. No reason to get your panties in a bunch.

Oh man if you’re worried about people taking 1 random guy’s post for gospel, let me introduce you to the first 500 pages of this thread.

Panty status = BUNCHED

[DR Murph]

Things are so much less complicated if you buy what you collect at release...

[TheChukler]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

As previously stated, I have done my due diligence. However, if you think there aren't people who would take his word as gospel on the forum you're sadly mistaken. Simply letting them know, and perhaps he may appreciate knowing that he might be missing something. No reason to get your panties in a bunch.

Put the shovel down, bud.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by DR Murph

Things are so much less complicated if you buy what you collect at release...

stop with that, we cant have that talk here

[nerdherd020]

Originally Posted by kajshack

If the deals on Stockx are so great, people should be doing some online arbitrage.

Never bought from StockX but heard there are fees for buying. Can anyone give an idea what they are and how much they charge for shipping?

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by DR Murph

Things are so much less complicated if you buy what you collect at release...

True. This a much simpler solution. Now I must figure out how to get back to the release of the Baller Ichiro & Saladeen Griffey to buy at msrp.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i like to buy on Topps.com

The only problem is you have to buy when the website is working