Anyone worried the NBA doesn't return this year

[Oldschool42]

Kyrie Irving is a self promoting prick! He sounds like a college kid that can string together a few big words, that sound smart at first, only to realize he has no clue what is coming out of mouth. He has diarrhea of the mouth.

He so badly wants everyone to respect and like him. Jaylen Brown has more brains in his pinky than Kyrie has rattling around in his empty brain.

[DegaBama]

Now there's talk that there will be no fans until 2022... this is just getting ridiculous.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Now there's talk that there will be no fans until 2022... this is just getting ridiculous.

Not a chance that happens. Put a mask on everyone and get back to normal. This is ridiculous.

[k13]

Won't miss the crybabies. Let the league go bankrupt. Terminate their contracts.

Acting like they are doing us a favor by playing.

[shizzlemynizzle]

Some of you guys are some pretty sad human beings yeesh

[Jopeal]

I’m not one for bashing the players, but it’s surprising that Kyrie is so involved.
He’s personally incentivized to not finish the season.

He’s also shown time & time again that he is not emotionally ready for leadership roles.

Shoutout to Jaylen Brown; a younger guy who will do great things both in and outside of basketball.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...asketball/amp/

[brothertona]

Austin Rivers comments on it. This fits very well with my comment that the platform the playoffs gives will be a net positive for the movement towards justice. (for the ones that say keep politics out of sports, you'll likely not want to watch sports for the next few months - I think it is a good thing the more eyes on these really serious issues of racial disparity in policing and in honestly every segment of our everyday lives. )

https://twitter.com/15__simba/status...929693696?s=20

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by mc1

Dont watch. Turn off the sound and close your eyes if your feelings get hurt.

Feelings hurt? No. Aggravated because I've got to listen to an entertainer that I enjoy watching during my free time talk about their political beliefs, yes. I don't like when you mix sports, religion, and politics. And if you think i'm the minority in that belief and that im one of the very few and I should just turn my head because 95% of the people actually want to see that then I think your way wrong. I would guess that 50% of the population share that same about this topic as I do. There's a reason why BO doesn't allow it because it's toxic. It's like gasoline and fire. These guys have endless other platforms and social media outlets to share their views and opinions, use those. Don't alienate half your fanbase. They're only hurting themselves in the long run.

Originally Posted by pharmboymatt

They should just shut up and dribble, amirite?

Yes that's exactly what I said. Thank you for deciphering it.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Feelings hurt? No. Aggravated because I've got to listen to an entertainer that I enjoy watching during my free time talk about their political beliefs, yes. I don't like when you mix sports, religion, and politics. And if you think i'm the minority in that belief and that im one of the very few and I should just turn my head because 95% of the people actually want to see that then I think your way wrong. I would guess that 50% of the population share that same about this topic as I do. There's a reason why BO doesn't allow it because it's toxic. It's like gasoline and fire. These guys have endless other platforms and social media outlets to share their views and opinions, use those. Don't alienate half your fanbase. They're only hurting themselves in the long run.



Yes that's exactly what I said. Thank you for deciphering it.

This is really Not a good look for you mate.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

This is really Not a good look for you mate.

Why because I don't like when you mix sports, politics, and religion?
Who does? And before you label me i'll save you the hassle im an independent. I see both sides to the political stuff going on I just don't want to see it during sports. I said in my first post about this topic that I support the players voicing their opinions I just don't like when they mix sports and politics together.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by brycelarson11

A couple of them get coronavirus and it's not gonna change a thing imo. WHO and all those health officials basically admitted that coronavirus isn't as big a deal as they originally thought, now that there is a change in agenda and they are allowing up to 100 people attend protests.

That's great news! I haven't heard that - mind sharing some articles so I can read up on it?

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Why because I don't like when you mix sports, politics, and religion?
Who does? And before you label me i'll save you the hassle im an independent. I see both sides to the political stuff going on I just don't want to see it during sports. I said in my first post about this topic that I support the players voicing their opinions I just don't like when they mix sports and politics together.

I'm not concerned with your political affiliation nor am I accusing you of anything, but when saying you want players of a predominantly black sport to just shut up and entertain you it plays into a historically racist trope and is exactly what Kyrie is voicing concern about.

It will either be a resumed nba season with numerous displays of social activism or the season will be cancelled.

Again, I'm not in agreement with Kyrie's philosophy, nor saying anything about you. Just pointing out your choice of words as being divisive in the way you're saying you are against.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

I'm not concerned with your political affiliation nor am I accusing you of anything, but when saying you want players of a predominantly black sport to just shut up and entertain you it plays into a historically racist trope and is exactly what Kyrie is voicing concern about.

It will either be a resumed nba season with numerous displays of social activism or the season will be cancelled.

Again, I'm not in agreement with Kyrie's philosophy, nor saying anything about you. Just pointing out your choice of words as being divisive in the way you're saying you are against.

All im saying is they should use the other platforms that are available to them instead of during the games. If people want to watch it they will find it and hear what they have to say. When people sit down to watch a sporting event they don't want to hear or see that stuff. It's an escape from all the b.s. that's going on in the real world for many people. Now you're invading their "safe space". These guys are paid entertainers regardless the color of their skin. People pay to watch and be entertained not listen to their political views and opinions. If they want to be a politician then be a politician.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Im all for players and their social justice crusades but not during the games. I really don't like when the two are mixed. They've got plenty of other avenues and platforms to voice their opinions. It's would be like if someone came on before your favorite show and gave you their opinion on religion. Would you want to see that every time you sat down to watch a tv show? I know I wouldn't. Not everyone has the same beliefs and opinions, you can't force your views on others. When you try to it turns into a gigantic sht show like the NFL had. Basically I don't like when politics are mixed with sports. I don't think many people do.

Just wondering - when's the last time a player / group of players / team had a social justice crusade during a game? The last I can think of was the "I can't breathe" warm-up shirts, but even then it wasn't during a game.

Also - isn't Kyrie voicing his opinion in the way you want aka "other avenues and platforms" right now? There's literally no games going on right now.

The problem is that even when players go the route of only speaking up on social media or whatever else non-NBA platform, it always trickles into the sport because the NBA is based on an individual player model and they have to start building a social presence basically before high school. So then the sport media covers whatever the player said and boom - it's mixing sports and politics. It's unavoidable. Which is why when someone says they don't like when players mix sports and politics it comes off as "shut up and dribble" - since in order to not mix the two, they'd have to choose one - sports OR politics.

And to be transparent - I'm #BLM all the way. I also don't quite understand how BLM connects to the return of the NBA season but Kyrie's comments were the first I heard about the connection and haven't looked into it much yet.

[thejazzcollector]

Originally Posted by TSonn

That's great news! I haven't heard that - mind sharing some articles so I can read up on it?

This was the main one I’m referring to
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...rnd/index.html
In short, they said “we do not condemn protests as risky for COVID transmission”.
I think there was also some from WHO that have come out last week and said they think spread by asymptomatic people is pretty uncommon, but there has been mixed reports on that.

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[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Just wondering - when's the last time a player / group of players / team had a social justice crusade during a game? The last I can think of was the "I can't breathe" warm-up shirts, but even then it wasn't during a game.

Also - isn't Kyrie voicing his opinion in the way you want aka "other avenues and platforms" right now? There's literally no games going on right now.

The problem is that even when players go the route of only speaking up on social media or whatever else non-NBA platform, it always trickles into the sport because the NBA is based on an individual player model and they have to start building a social presence basically before high school. So then the sport media covers whatever the player said and boom - it's mixing sports and politics. It's unavoidable. Which is why when someone says they don't like when players mix sports and politics it comes off as "shut up and dribble" - since in order to not mix the two, they'd have to choose one - sports OR politics.

And to be transparent - I'm #BLM all the way. I also don't quite understand how BLM connects to the return of the NBA season but Kyrie's comments were the first I heard about the connection and haven't looked into it much yet.

He is right now and that's great that's what he should do. But when you say there will be no greater stage then the playoffs to do some sort of demonstration or protest that's what I don't want to see happen. I'm sure some people would but I personally don't want to see it.

[BlueXtreme]

Does anyone know what channel these games will be on? I bought league pass and was never partially refunded or anything. Will I be able to watch the games?

[ballhawkdawk]

So much misinformation being perpetuated.

I agree with you, RogerGodahell, and you’re not alone. Most of us just don’t feel like dealing with the mob for deviating from the script.

The whole “we need to make people aware!” is getting ridiculous. Is anyone... anyone... not aware of what is going on in America at this point? I’ve spent a lot of time researching a lot of things, discussing ideas, and sharing my beliefs in the Politics thread in the last couple weeks. I donated to a charity for one of the riot victims and will also be bringing food to my local PD to show them some love too. But I don’t need this stuff in my face everywhere I go, and I don’t think anyone should be forced to pay attention to any particular movement. “Well turn it off then.” — you missed the point.

[JZen01]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

There’s no widespread second lock down coming. Individual cities can do whatever they want, but they will pay a price if they lock down again. The extent of the first lock down was probably overkill. Flattening the curve (spreading out infection over time so that our hospitals didn’t turn into Italy) was the goal. Not elimination of the virus to zero, despite what some want you to believe.

Agree I don't see a second wave or lock down any time soon either. It's the summer and viruses don't thrive in the heat. There will be sporadic infections as we open up as expected, but as long as we can manage and control individual cases we should be fine. I'm more worried about a second wave during winter and flu season affecting the next season.

[k13]

Originally Posted by shizzlemynizzle

Some of you guys are some pretty sad human beings yeesh

Because some ungrateful pampered spoiled players don't want to play a stupid game people play for free.

Rather watch college kids play with some heart.

[Jazzer540]

I agree sports bring us together but if any of you think that this platform will bring change- your wrong. There will not be one single player that will say anything against the grain or say anything that will be unbias or have room to discuss different points of view. Never will happen. Example: your not going to ever hear a player say they don't necessarily agree that systematically all whites are not racist, etc

[Jazzer540]

Another example: you think even 1 player will say I respect cops in general? Ha, never. So even if players could bring people change in seeing different views can work together with 1 goal...it won't happen because they won't air the different view points

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

So much misinformation being perpetuated.

I agree with you, RogerGodahell, and you’re not alone. Most of us just don’t feel like dealing with the mob for deviating from the script.

The whole “we need to make people aware!” is getting ridiculous. Is anyone... anyone... not aware of what is going on in America at this point? I’ve spent a lot of time researching a lot of things, discussing ideas, and sharing my beliefs in the Politics thread in the last couple weeks. I donated to a charity for one of the riot victims and will also be bringing food to my local PD to show them some love too. But I don’t need this stuff in my face everywhere I go, and I don’t think anyone should be forced to pay attention to any particular movement. “Well turn it off then.” — you missed the point.

Why is that you can have the freedom of choice, but you choose to let others know they cannot? Its most simplistic question and answer. You have the choice to watch it or not, they have the choice to bring forth their awareness or not in the manner they choose. Why is one allowed to choose while the other is not?

If the answer is that is simply affects your enjoyment, then you have to ask yourself what you do that has an impact on others and their way of life and should you be forced to mute yourself in order to appease someone who doesn't like what you are doing?>

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by k13

Because some ungrateful pampered spoiled players don't want to play a stupid game people play for free.

Rather watch college kids play with some heart.

Worst take ever homie. You know most NBA players come from poverty, right?

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

He is right now and that's great that's what he should do. But when you say there will be no greater stage then the playoffs to do some sort of demonstration or protest that's what I don't want to see happen. I'm sure some people would but I personally don't want to see it.

Fair enough. I just can't really remember any time where politics actually interfered with a game. Pre-game, sure. Post-game, sure. The actual game? No. If it seems like politics are mixing with sports, it seems like it would be more fair to request fans stop tuning into the pre-game, post-game, social media than to request a player to not have a voice on a topic.

[brettmik59]

I'm with Godahell. I watch sports because I want a break from politics and real life. That's why I don't watch ESPN anymore now that there's no games on. It's one-sided virtue signaling politics all day everyday. They can do whatever they want, I just won't watch, and a lot of other guys will do the same if it gets to a certain point.