MLB Owners Support Thread

[gradedeflator]

stop, please, things don't have to be even steven...you don't need to respond to every comment!

please start listening - you are listening to respond, but you are not actively listening to me, otherwise you would stop

i'm giving you some advice - people are looking past your points, whether they agree or not, because of your style. You seem incapable of just making rational points. You feel compelled to add in praise for yourself and name calling of others.

Case in point - your last two posts. what kind of normal person writes "I'm actually helping you out btw with all the points I've made debating you, as I have lot of professional business experience, and having good business acumen can help you be very successful in our free market capitalist society"

you aren't helping me, so don't say you are. You aren't debating, because you aren't listening to what me and many others are saying.

i work in business..and people with good business acumen don't walk around stating that...that's not normal.

Originally Posted by CalCub

Stop commenting on your posts? Sorry but I created this thread as this MLB labor dispute is a topic I care a lot about, and I also wasn't going to let you suggest that because I support the owners in this debate, that would kiss the owners *** if I met them in person, or suggest that I admire the owners more than the players just because I'm siding with the owners in this labor dispute

Just trying to help you understand what the core problem might be to why so many people blindly support the players in this labor dispute, that's all....

[CalCub]

Originally Posted by marterburn

CalCub definitely has a poster of Marge Schott on his bedroom ceiling.

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I just looked Marge Schott up, hell no I don't have a poster of her hanging up anywhere haha

[CalCub]

Originally Posted by gradedeflator

stop, please, things don't have to be even steven...you don't need to respond to every comment!

please start listening - you are listening to respond, but you are not actively listening to me, otherwise you would stop

i'm giving you some advice - people are looking past your points, whether they agree or not, because of your style. You seem incapable of just making rational points. You feel compelled to add in praise for yourself and name calling of others.

Case in point - your last two posts. what kind of normal person writes "I'm actually helping you out btw with all the points I've made debating you, as I have lot of professional business experience, and having good business acumen can help you be very successful in our free market capitalist society"

you aren't helping me, so don't say you are. You aren't debating, because you aren't listening to what me and many others are saying.

i work in business..and people with good business acumen don't walk around stating that...that's not normal.

I'll respond if I want to, again I created this thread and your comments were implying certain things about people like me who support the owners which are not true....and stop acting like you're a victim here....this is a chat forum in a thread I created

Not normal? What are you talking about? Just because you work for a business/company, does not mean you have good business acumen, you probably never heard the term business acumen before I created this thread, so that's probably why when I say that term it doesn't seem normal to you. Again, if you had better business acumen, you wouldn't have sided with the players so strongly in the past, simple as that.



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[gradedeflator]

this is my point. why do you continue to make statements like "you probably never heard the term business acumen before I created this thread"?

it's just not possible to have a discussion with you. you make up stuff in a way that is meant to insult and offend.

and then you make broad stereotypes like if i had a better business acumen i wouldn't have sided with the players. do you know there are many many people who support the players? i bet some of them have pretty good business acumen.

if you want to start a thread, that's great. but you have to be open to other's ideas. otherwise what's the point dude?

anyways keep on patting yourself on the back and telling people how much business acumen and common sense you have.

My comment about "not being normal" is that most people don't walk around bragging about themselves to people. You think Mike Trout tells people he's the best baseball player in the world? not a chance. You know who did think he was a bomb football player and told everyone that? Johnny Manziel.

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Originally Posted by CalCub

I'll respond if I want to, again I created this thread and your comments were implying certain things about people like me who support the owners which are not true....and stop acting like you're a victim here....this is a chat forum in a thread I created

Not normal? What are you talking about? Just because you work for a business/company, does not mean you have good business acumen, you probably never heard the term business acumen before I created this thread, so that's probably why when I say that term it doesn't seem normal to you. Again, if you had better business acumen, you wouldn't have sided with the players so strongly in the past, simple as that.



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[WalterAZ31]

los angeles, CA...........check

superdouche.............check

[sarahmc143]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

wasn't he temporarily suspended tag on him a week or so ago?

i can't imagine how that could have been possible...................

Again another pointless comment, you have made 2 comments total in this thread and these have been it. Who's ass are you here to kiss or stick up for? Just causing drama, either contribute to the thread and say your piece or opinion or just keep the BS out. Again another guy selling cheap $1 cards on ebay here to just jump on the bandwagon...

[sarahmc143]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

los angeles, CA...........check

superdouche.............check

Comment #2...

[CalCub]

Originally Posted by sarahmc143

Again another pointless comment, you have made 2 comments total in this thread and these have been it. Who's ass are you here to kiss or stick up for? Just causing drama, either contribute to the thread and say your piece or opinion or just keep the BS out. Again another guy selling cheap $1 cards on ebay here to just jump on the bandwagon...

Haha, nice!

If he's able to get lucky and sell all his cards on eBay at once, he might be able to afford of few blaster boxes at Target LOL


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[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by CalCub

I just looked Marge Schott up, hell no I don't have a poster of her hanging up anywhere haha

Have you even graduated from high school yet?

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by CalCub

Brewtown107, did you see the ESPN interview with Manfred earlier today? I updated the OP on this thread and posted in interview via YouTube there. It's good, basically called out the top union bosses for operating in bad faith on National TV...he also confirmed from multiple sources that the union's top lawyer has been telling people that the MLBPA plans on suing the owners/MLB for an additional $1 billion that the players believe they are entitled to...it's amazing, but I honestly think the only reason why the players union keeps playing hard ball for more money, is because so many in the general public blindly support the players & blame the owners on everything....if more fans would stand up to the players and let them know that even though we admire the players, we're not going to let them take advantage of us, especially during tough economic times like this

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It’s amazing how you say that everything that’s pro player is “propaganda crap” but anything that support the owners is “the truth and nothing but the truth”

Truly amazing

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by sarahmc143

Keeping score at home? This isn't a contest or a ball game here. Use you common sense, stating "fully aware of the owners financial position" is easily understood unless you want to try and twist around again to make someone look bad or to use it for your twisted thoughts. Everyone knows of course the owners are rich, no one denying that as OP never has. Also easy to understand they have drawn a line that they are only willing to lose X amount and if the players aren't willing to as well with them then why should they lose any or anymore if the players aren't willing to compromise at all. How hard is that to understand? I am FULLY aware is it their financial position what they are doing without having to see any numbers at all, it is common sense. Again they don't have to open any books and prove any numbers, makes no difference. They are again the owners for a reason and if they say they are losing and even if they aren't losing it is their financial position to say we want to make this much or we only want to lose this much, no ifs, ands, or buts about it really. They don't owe anyone anything about their full financial situation.

A bit biased to say this I guess as doesn't apply to all but you guys selling $1-$2 cards I have learned primarily on ebay really your opinion doesn't carry the same weight. Sorry again to lump some of you guys in that category as isn't really fair but overall that is the take... It is obvious you prolly think about things a little differently from your comments and responses than owners of a business would etc. It isn't really fair for you to keep commenting like you know everything as you guys have lots to learn about things in the real world unfortunately but easy to try and pretend like you are a know it all and argue about everything from behind a keyboard... The OP has an understanding of business ownership at the very least which is more than I can say about a lot of you guys commenting on here. Until you have been there done that and are successful with it like these owners you should try more to take it in and learn a little more before sounding so clueless...

How would you know this? You’ve specifically said you have no prior history of knowledge of this poster and only came to his defense because people were “attacking” him and “teaming up on him” which is false. People were just disagreeing which he assumed was an attack.

How would you know his background in business, especially because he has never shared it from what I’ve seen? I’ve even asked him what his job is, after he questioned and was being rude about my job, yet he never responded

How could you possibly know his business background?

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by sarahmc143

Again another pointless comment, you have made 2 comments total in this thread and these have been it. Who's ass are you here to kiss or stick up for? Just causing drama, either contribute to the thread and say your piece or opinion or just keep the BS out. Again another guy selling cheap $1 cards on ebay here to just jump on the bandwagon...

He’s pointing out that he was temporarily suspended, that’s not a false fact

[pewe]

Originally Posted by CalCub

Thanks pewe, I saw the live interview with Manfred earlier this evening....below is the YouTube link to the Live ESPN interview with the Commissioner earlier today, where he explains how word leaked that once the MLB/owners announced the official start of the season with a schedule, the Union lawyers would file a grievance and SUE MLB and say that the players are entitled to another $1 billion, es ....

Cool! What was the tone from the ESPN side? Somehow I find this topic has even normally pretty neutral editorial content taking anyone that suggests where their support lies.


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[brewtown107]

Originally Posted by gradedeflator

this is my point. why do you continue to make statements like "you probably never heard the term business acumen before I created this thread"?

it's just not possible to have a discussion with you. you make up stuff in a way that is meant to insult and offend.

and then you make broad stereotypes like if i had a better business acumen i wouldn't have sided with the players. do you know there are many many people who support the players? i bet some of them have pretty good business acumen.

if you want to start a thread, that's great. but you have to be open to other's ideas. otherwise what's the point dude?

anyways keep on patting yourself on the back and telling people how much business acumen and common sense you have.

My comment about "not being normal" is that most people don't walk around bragging about themselves to people. You think Mike Trout tells people he's the best baseball player in the world? not a chance. You know who did think he was a bomb football player and told everyone that? Johnny Manziel.

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Are you actually trying to claim the moral high ground after you suggested that people who don't blindly agree with the union want to "lick Tom Rickett's shoes?" Really?

[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by sarahmc143

Again another pointless comment, you have made 2 comments total in this thread and these have been it. Who's ass are you here to kiss or stick up for? Just causing drama, either contribute to the thread and say your piece or opinion or just keep the BS out. Again another guy selling cheap $1 cards on ebay here to just jump on the bandwagon...

just calling a spade a spade karen

keep selling garbage jewelry that nobody wants

[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by CalCub

Haha, nice!

If he's able to get lucky and sell all his cards on eBay at once, he might be able to afford of few blaster boxes at Target LOL


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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, what will i do if i cant sell and have to stick to my $120,000 a year job

superdouche

[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Have you even graduated from high school yet?

i peg OP to be a PBM, and somewhere around 20 years old. imagine posting on a forum where nobody likes you, and juast about everyone thinks you're a clown

[CalCub]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, what will i do if i cant sell and have to stick to my $120,000 a year job

superdouche

I'm a douche? You're the one siding with the players on these labor negotiations like an uniformed fool....I don't see how you can be making $120K/yr & be siding with the players, maybe you're a liberal arts professor or work in the medical field. From your eBay page, you certainly don't look like someone who makes over $100K/yr



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[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by CalCub

I'm a douche? You're the one siding with the players on these labor negotiations like an uniformed fool....I don't see how you can be making $120K/yr & be siding with the players, maybe you're a liberal arts professor or work in the medical field. From your eBay page, you certainly don't look like someone who makes over $100K/yr

yes, you are a douche. $120k a year all day kiddo

[JeremyNick]

Well this thread is gonna be locked down after the vacations are handed out....

[joey12508]

Originally Posted by CalCub

I'll respond if I want to, again I created this thread and your comments were implying certain things about people like me who support the owners which are not true....and stop acting like you're a victim here....this is a chat forum in a thread I created

Not normal? What are you talking about? Just because you work for a business/company, does not mean you have good business acumen, you probably never heard the term business acumen before I created this thread, so that's probably why when I say that term it doesn't seem normal to you. Again, if you had better business acumen, you wouldn't have sided with the players so strongly in the past, simple as that.



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[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

i peg OP to be a PBM, and somewhere around 20 years old. imagine posting on a forum where nobody likes you, and juast about everyone thinks you're a clown

raidersfan86 is my guess. Someone pointed this out and I am starting to see some striking similarities between the 2 IDs.

[doowopbruce]

I primarily blame the players but am no fan of the owners.

[CalCub]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

yes, you are a douche. $120k a year all day kiddo

FYI, you don't add much value to this forum, so your opinion doesn't really have much merit, so call me names all you want, doesn't bother me...I bet reading my original post in this thread is even too much for you to read & comprehend

Again, I've had many people in this forum support me for making this thread in support of the owners, more than what you can say about any of your threads/posts

[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by CalCub

FYI, you don't add much value to this forum, so your opinion doesn't really have much merit, so call me names all you want, doesn't bother me...I bet reading my original post in this thread is even too much for you to read & comprehend

Again, I've had many people in this forum support me for making this thread in support of the owners, more than what you can say about any of your threads/posts

I’m pretty sure my itrader says I do, stay mad kid