Spectra FOTL 6/24

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by messier2

Thoughts on this sale price: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-20-Pan...53.m1438.l2649

Seems a tad low to me...I was thinking at least $800...especially being the first one listed.

Or, is this a sign that Spectra base is just not as desirable as others Panini brands with a similar print run?

Other sets are about the base. Spectra is about the RPA.

I do think we're reaching a point of over saturation of chromium releases.

Prizm
Prizm Choice
Prizm Fast Break
Optic
Optic Choice
Optic Fast Break
Optic Tmall
Select
Select Hybrid
Select Tmall
Mosaic
Mosaic Choice
Mosaic Fast Break
Spectra...

At what point do people get fatigued? And what is the pricing hierarchy a few years from now?

[liveovercome]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyhDbLvaKfw&t=10m2s

Roger that, pops. I'mma take you up on that.




We gon' see if you really bout that life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rPIuK8RaY

[ORLMagicFan]

Lol. A competitor is now the cheapest buy it now on eBay.
Think these will be $1500+ by Friday.

[tolrobb]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Bounty $1200

crap, i might have to jump on that one. while I think there is still room to grow, I am sitting on a lot of wax right now and the allure of making $400 profit and having opened a box (with a Ja RPA in it to boot) for free is a good feeling.

[Asian62150]

Interesting that BO is buying these for $1200 but not currently selling on their website.

While another company is selling for $1300 but not buying.

[yiguiri2002]

Auctions ending yesterday:

Curry /99 parallel - $50
Mitchell /99 parallel - $45
Zion /49 parallel - $690
Bol /25 RPA - $105
Little /39 RPA - $150
Little /99 Parallel - $25
Okpala /39 RPA - $90
Rui /25 RPA - $660
Windler /39 RPA - $125
Rui /99 Parallel - $85
Grant Williams /99 RPA - $45
White Silver RC - $60
Zion RPA /49 - $2750

Quick notes on this:

- It's definitively RPA driven. Even though parallels are selling better than in other years, they trail other Chrome-like products.

- The FOTL RPAs are commanding a huge premium right now. Even with nice patches, there's no way a similar Zion should go for 1/4th of what the FOTL went for.

- Haven't seen many Color Blast listed. Hopefully they put more on regular Hobby since they loaded FOTL with RPAs.

- I think these hit 1700-1800 sometime in the next 2 weeks. I still see Hobby way behind, specially with the huge premium FOTL RPAs are commanding

[TimBuckTwo]

What did the case and box prices sell out at on BO's website for hobby?

[ORLMagicFan]

Lowest BIN/BO is now $1500
Competitors boxes all got bought up on eBay.
One auction at $1325 with time to go

[bigjbasketball]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

What did the case and box prices sell out at on BO's website for hobby?

I don’t think anything sold out, they will just keep them off their site until after Panini sellers theirs directly tomorrow. I want to say they were something crazy like $985 for a hot second and then they dropped to the mid $800s before they were taken down. I pre-ordered a box for $450 when they first went up for sale a while back and my box is getting delivered this week. I also bought a box of Obsidian for $300 at the same time and used a $25 off code. I never thought I’d say $725 for a box of Spectra and Obsidian was a tremendous deal, but here we are.

[gunnerpei]

Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

I don’t think anything sold out, they will just keep them off their site until after Panini sellers theirs directly tomorrow. I want to say they were something crazy like $985 for a hot second and then they dropped to the mid $800s before they were taken down. I pre-ordered a box for $450 when they first went up for sale a while back and my box is getting delivered this week. I also bought a box of Obsidian for $300 at the same time and used a $25 off code. I never thought I’d say $725 for a box of Spectra and Obsidian was a tremendous deal, but here we are.

Great deal! I'm glad they're still shipping your pre-order.

[ninjacookies]

Looks like they're really taking Blez up on his offer.


My ridge wallet is ready.

[cardmole]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Looks like they're really taking Blez up on his offer.


My ridge wallet is ready.

So let me get this straight...I can either:

1. Take my $1500 to Laughlin casinos, hang out with the old folks for a week, party down, room and dining covered, plus gambling at "fair" odds and whatever entertainment...or

2. I can buy 4 packs of this.

The new reality is getting strange...kinda like it though...reminds me of '60s.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by cardmole

So let me get this straight...I can either:

1. Take my $1500 to Laughlin casinos, hang out with the old folks for a week, party down, room and dining covered, plus gambling at "fair" odds and whatever entertainment...or

2. I can buy 4 packs of this.

The new reality is getting strange...kinda like it though...reminds me of '60s.

This is flipping sealed product to a group breaker.


If any of these dudes are buying for a personal rip, then they might as well go all the way with the latex bodysuit and embrace the inner masochist.

[bigjbasketball]

Originally Posted by gunnerpei

Great deal! I'm glad they're still shipping your pre-order.

BO is good about that, I don’t think they’ve ever cancelled anyone’s pre-order after prices increase. At least I’m still getting some regular hobby...I’m still mad my dumb credit card got flagged for fraud when I tried to buy FOTL at the floor, and it was sold out during the 30 seconds it took me to clear that up.

[cardmole]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

This is flipping sealed product to a group breaker.


If any of these dudes are buying for a personal rip, then they might as well go all the way with the latex bodysuit and embrace the inner masochist.

Whew.
Yeah, thanks man. I forget the lambs are getting slaughtered 5% at a time.
Don't feel it 'til they receive their Kent Bazemore base for their $200.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by cardmole

Whew.
Yeah, thanks man. I forget the lambs are getting slaughtered 5% at a time.
Don't feel it 'til they receive their Kent Bazemore base for their $200.

This stuff is frontloaded with a bit more Ersan Ilyasova mojo than I'm comfortable with.


But I shall leave that dilemma to the shot callers/big ballers scooping team spots @ $90 a pop.

[cardmole]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

This stuff is frontloaded with a bit more Ersan Ilyasova mojo than I'm comfortable with.


But I shall leave that dilemma to the shot callers/big ballers scooping team spots @ $90 a pop.

I love cards, I love gambling too, but I would hate to chuck $90 into a break...1 in 30 chance for Pelicans (1 in 8 for best teams ?) and then....drumroll....
Jaxson Hayes RPA. Congrats, you beat the odds!
Guess the new breed may still consider that winning though.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by cardmole

Guess the new breed may still consider that winning though.

Brief aside: Sideshow Bob's got moderate potential.


Still crazy.

[messier2]

Let's see how quickly they sell out tomorrow. I think it will be quick!

[cardmole]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Brief aside: Sideshow Bob's got moderate potential.


Still crazy.

Yeah, no shade intended on the weird hair dude.
Just hard to believe the insanity. Still, my kind of universe-no complaints!

[messier2]

Zion RPA /39 just sold for $7,800. Wow, that $11k sale was solid!

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

For your sake, I really hope the buyer doesn't return because that card value will DROP fast IMO.

Originally Posted by messier2

Zion RPA /39 just sold for $7,800. Wow, that $11k sale was solid!

Now I really hope the $11.5k sale doesn’t result in a return.

To be honest, the $7.8k sale seems high too. I expect these to settle lower.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by messier2

Zion RPA /39 just sold for $7,800. Wow, that $11k sale was solid!

That's a hell of a sale, specially considering the Celestial sold for less than 3k. Based on those estimates, you can get approximates for each RPA version:

FOTL: 350-400
Celestial: 120-150
Interstellar: 180-230
Regular: 100-120

FOTL seems to have more than one RPA on top of the exclusive. Hobby seems to average a little bit more than 1 RPA.

Seems like the average return on FOTL should be around 750. Hobby around 450. Should be a decent buy at current prices.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Now I really hope the $11.5k sale doesn’t result in a return.

To be honest, the $7.8k sale seems high too. I expect these to settle lower.

The winning bid seemed solid. TBH it seems like there are a few people who doesn't mind paying 2x as long as they get the card.

I really hope that they are collectors and not flippers because if not, they are gonna have a really hard time making money out of this card.

[ninjacookies]

I think my 1200-1300 valuation 2 days ago may have been soft.

Thanks uncle blez.