2019-20 Mosaic Genesis odds/print run tracker

[Spink]

27 Cello
2 Hanger
1 Blaster

No Genesis.

No anything.

[blinkme323]

I’ve opened about 20 hangers and 5 blasters and have hit 5 Genesis (including a Morant base). Judging by some of the volume that I’ve seen on eBay for individual cards, 10-15 posted already in some cases, I think the print run is closer to /50 and maybe more.

[SukiBrady12]

1 hanger @$45 and I thought I overpaid until seller told me the Shai Gilgeous Alexander was a genesis.

[MIDNITE Z]

I opened 39 cello packs and pulled one genesis. I'm surprised the genesis are not numbered.

[Rcash193]

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[beens75]

25 Blasters, 36 Cellos, 10 Megas and 28 Hangers total. 6 Genesis. Korkmaz, Jarret Allen, Langston Galloway, D Wade USA, Chris Paul....and this guyAttachment 485305


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[missedthedrop]

32 blasters (20 from 1 store, 12 from 3 other stores), 19 cellos
store 1:
2 genesis - culver debut / ignas rc
2 orange fluorescents - rj debut / chamberlain HOF
2 rookie scripts - tacko gold / louis king?

other stores (12 blasters):
1 script - iwundu
1 genesis - schroder

Nothing from cellos.

[Sal]

I was actually looking for the answer to this today, without it being numbered hard to tell how many there are, but is the Genesis more rare than the Orange /25 numbers wise?

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by Sal

I was actually looking for the answer to this today, without it being numbered hard to tell how many there are, but is the Genesis more rare than the Orange /25 numbers wise?

No, estimates are somewhere between 50 and 100

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Sal

I was actually looking for the answer to this today, without it being numbered hard to tell how many there are, but is the Genesis more rare than the Orange /25 numbers wise?

Looking more and more like /50, but possibly more.

[missedthedrop]

Reading this thread makes me want to open more of my stash.
The Genesis parallels are too cool.

[eastbayak]

Pulled 2 Genesis in my first 2 Megas. Since then, haven't pulled a single one.

Current tally:

11 Megas + 2 Hangers => 2 Genesis

[Seven Costanza]

Assuming most of the bigger names/cards will be sent in for grading, here are the total numbers as of 6/22/20 for these PSA/BGS Graded Genesis

#8 LBJ - PSA 10 BGS 15 = 25
#298 LBJ MVP- PSA 10 BGS 12 =22

#209 Zion - PSA 5 BGS 16 = 21
#269 Zion Debut - PSA 4 BGS 6 = 10

#44 Luka - PSA 4 BGS 8 =12
#70 Steph - PSA 6 BGS 7 = 13
#75 Giannis - PSA 1 BGS 5 = 6

#211 Coby - PSA 4 BGS 6 = 10
#219 Ja - PSA 2 BGS 18 = 20

[Beavers98]

Opened around 10-12 Hangers. Pulled 2 Genesis cards. They are pretty cool looking!

[Giantrobot]

Opened 3 blasters, 4 hangers and 7 cellos. Got lucky and pulled 2 Genesis cards.
Jarrett Culver RC and Danilo Gallinari.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Seven Costanza

Assuming most of the bigger names/cards will be sent in for grading, here are the total numbers as of 6/22/20 for these PSA/BGS Graded Genesis

#8 LBJ - PSA 10 BGS 15 = 25
#298 LBJ MVP- PSA 10 BGS 12 =22

#209 Zion - PSA 5 BGS 16 = 21
#269 Zion Debut - PSA 4 BGS 6 = 10

#44 Luka - PSA 4 BGS 8 =12
#70 Steph - PSA 6 BGS 7 = 13
#75 Giannis - PSA 1 BGS 5 = 6

#211 Coby - PSA 4 BGS 6 = 10
#219 Ja - PSA 2 BGS 18 = 20

I love seeing hard data like this. Thanks for sharing.

I can't wait to see these in hand. Got 3 on the way to me. Hopefully can nab a few more.

[Seven Costanza]

Originally Posted by Seven Costanza

Assuming most of the bigger names/cards will be sent in for grading, here are the total numbers as of 6/22/20 for these PSA/BGS Graded Genesis

#8 LBJ - PSA 10 BGS 15 = 25
#298 LBJ MVP- PSA 10 BGS 12 =22

#209 Zion - PSA 5 BGS 16 = 21
#269 Zion Debut - PSA 4 BGS 6 = 10

#44 Luka - PSA 4 BGS 8 =12
#70 Steph - PSA 6 BGS 7 = 13
#75 Giannis - PSA 1 BGS 5 = 6

#211 Coby - PSA 4 BGS 6 = 10
#219 Ja - PSA 2 BGS 18 = 20

Updated Today.... /50 looking like a good guess?

#8 LBJ - PSA 14 BGS 19 = 33
#298 LBJ MVP- PSA 21 BGS 16 =37

#209 Zion - PSA 7 BGS 24 = 31
#269 Zion Debut - PSA 5 BGS 13 = 18

#44 Luka - PSA 8 BGS 13 =21
#70 Steph - PSA 10 BGS 10 = 20
#75 Giannis - PSA 6 BGS 8 = 14

#211 Coby - PSA 5 BGS 12 = 17
#219 Ja - PSA 8 BGS 24 = 32

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by Seven Costanza

Updated Today.... /50 looking like a good guess?

#8 LBJ - PSA 14 BGS 19 = 33
#298 LBJ MVP- PSA 21 BGS 16 =37

#209 Zion - PSA 7 BGS 24 = 31
#269 Zion Debut - PSA 5 BGS 13 = 18

#44 Luka - PSA 8 BGS 13 =21
#70 Steph - PSA 10 BGS 10 = 20
#75 Giannis - PSA 6 BGS 8 = 14

#211 Coby - PSA 5 BGS 12 = 17
#219 Ja - PSA 8 BGS 24 = 32

I'd say 50 is low. several of these are already in the 30s, I don't believe that you could say 70% of the entire print run has been opened AND submit for grading at what, barely over 2 months from release? people are still finding this in stores, and there's mountains of this unopened in people's closets as well. I'd guess in the 75-100 range, based on those numbers and from what people are seeing, basically 1 genesis per 500 cards? roughly 1 per blaster case, anyone else feel like that's a decent estimate?

[missedthedrop]

Originally Posted by Seven Costanza

Updated Today.... /50 looking like a good guess?

#8 LBJ - PSA 14 BGS 19 = 33
#298 LBJ MVP- PSA 21 BGS 16 =37

#209 Zion - PSA 7 BGS 24 = 31
#269 Zion Debut - PSA 5 BGS 13 = 18

#44 Luka - PSA 8 BGS 13 =21
#70 Steph - PSA 10 BGS 10 = 20
#75 Giannis - PSA 6 BGS 8 = 14

#211 Coby - PSA 5 BGS 12 = 17
#219 Ja - PSA 8 BGS 24 = 32

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

I'd say 50 is low. several of these are already in the 30s, I don't believe that you could say 70% of the entire print run has been opened AND submit for grading at what, barely over 2 months from release? people are still finding this in stores, and there's mountains of this unopened in people's closets as well. I'd guess in the 75-100 range, based on those numbers and from what people are seeing, basically 1 genesis per 500 cards? roughly 1 per blaster case, anyone else feel like that's a decent estimate?

I too, would say /50 is low.
I personally know a guy who has pulled 3 LBJ MVP genesis in the past 5 weeks (not his cards, as he is a breaker but 100% trust his word).
Edit: Here's his IG https://www.instagram.com/1stofftheline/

[IndyKMB]

Opened my only Mosaic of the season thus far. 2 cello boxes.
Pulled a Jordan Poole Genesis. These parallels are gorgeous.

[thenightman]

I could be mistaken, but is there some correlation between autos and genesis?

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Seven Costanza

Updated Today.... /50 looking like a good guess?

#8 LBJ - PSA 14 BGS 19 = 33
#298 LBJ MVP- PSA 21 BGS 16 =37

#209 Zion - PSA 7 BGS 24 = 31
#269 Zion Debut - PSA 5 BGS 13 = 18

#44 Luka - PSA 8 BGS 13 =21
#70 Steph - PSA 10 BGS 10 = 20
#75 Giannis - PSA 6 BGS 8 = 14

#211 Coby - PSA 5 BGS 12 = 17
#219 Ja - PSA 8 BGS 24 = 32

I'd say 50 out of the question now.

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by thenightman

I could be mistaken, but is there some correlation between autos and genesis?

I had a Blaster with an auto and Genesis in it. Someone echoed that that is how they seem to be running.

[beens75]

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My Zion came back from PSA today. Needless to say I’m happy with the results.


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[mc1]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I'd say 50 out of the question now.

I thought 50 was the low end but now I think there may be easily over 100.