2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I'm not sure what's funny? You think Obama would have done a worse job at handling this? Trump can't even be bothered to wear a mask in public.

What a sitting President should have done is invited all living Presidents to the White House, as well as other major political figure heads (Pelosi, McConnell, and others) and posed for a photo while all wearing masks. This would remove the political aspect of this thing.

Instead, Trump called it a hoax. A Democratic hoax.

[budd2222]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Here is one example, under oath James Clapper said he saw no direct evidence of Trump colluding with Russia and they did not know the content of the meetings, while this is what he said on CNN:

“What was the Trump campaign doing at the same time?” Clapper said. “Essentially aiding and abetting the Russians and having contacts — dozens of contacts — with Russians, some of whom were connected officially to Russian intelligence, and not reporting it.”

Clapper is a fraud misleading the American people.

Lets put it this way. !n the 2018 N.C election Mark Harris won the vote by about 905. It turns out Leslie McCrae Dowless hired people tp tamper with the absentee ballots. Now in this no proof of Harris having any knowledge of the fix but a ton that people working for him did. Now replace Harris with Trump and his election staff with Dowless any one can see the top may not know what the lower staff is doing. Clapper just said they had no proof Trump knew what his family and friends were up to. A leader always lets some space on things you don't want to answer to.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Here is one example, under oath James Clapper said he saw no direct evidence of Trump colluding with Russia and they did not know the content of the meetings, while this is what he said on CNN:

“What was the Trump campaign doing at the same time?” Clapper said. “Essentially aiding and abetting the Russians and having contacts — dozens of contacts — with Russians, some of whom were connected officially to Russian intelligence, and not reporting it.”

Clapper is a fraud misleading the American people.

For the last time, Trump was not impeached for colluding with Russia.
Clapper, at the time, was a mere CNN analyst who said this in his testimony:

"I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election. That's not to say that there weren't concerns about the evidence we were seeing, anecdotal evidence. But I do not recall any instance where I had direct evidence of the content of these meetings. It's just the frequency and prevalence of them was of concern."

Ooh, the scandal!!!

Do you check under your bed each night for media before you go to sleep?
A whole lot less of that "Q" nonsense would do you a world of good.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I'm not sure what's funny? You think Obama would have done a worse job at handling this? Trump can't even be bothered to wear a mask in public.

What a sitting President should have done is invited all living Presidents to the White House, as well as other major political figure heads (Pelosi, McConnell, and others) and posed for a photo while all wearing masks. This would remove the political aspect of this thing.

Instead, Trump called it a hoax. A Democratic hoax.

Pelosi is the wicked witch of the west I would not want her near me.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by packman80

Pelosi is the wicked witch of the west I would not want her near me.

There really isn't any help for this country. I am convinced that while we aren't going to turn into some third-world country, our spot as the leader of the world is over.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

There really isn't any help for this country. I am convinced that while we aren't going to turn into some third-world country, our spot as the leader of the world is over.

(The whole idea of the Trump campaign was to stop being "leader" of the world.)

Yet another delivered promise!

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by jdandns

For the last time, Trump was not impeached for colluding with Russia.
Clapper, at the time, was a mere CNN analyst who said this in his testimony:

"I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election. That's not to say that there weren't concerns about the evidence we were seeing, anecdotal evidence. But I do not recall any instance where I had direct evidence of the content of these meetings. It's just the frequency and prevalence of them was of concern."

Ooh, the scandal!!!

Do you check under your bed each night for media before you go to sleep?
A whole lot less of that "Q" nonsense would do you a world of good.

I’ve never brought up impeachment once. Not sure why you keep bringing it up.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I'm not sure what's funny? You think Obama would have done a worse job at handling this? Trump can't even be bothered to wear a mask in public.

What a sitting President should have done is invited all living Presidents to the White House, as well as other major political figure heads (Pelosi, McConnell, and others) and posed for a photo while all wearing masks. This would remove the political aspect of this thing.

Instead, Trump called it a hoax. A Democratic hoax.

That's cute that you think Pelosi, along with other Democrats, would accept an invite from President Trump.

Democrat led states and cities have done horribly during these protests and pandemic. So yeah, Obama would have done worse.

[jdandns]

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by jdandns

For the last time, Trump was not impeached for colluding with Russia.
Clapper, at the time, was a mere CNN analyst who said this in his testimony:

"I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election. That's not to say that there weren't concerns about the evidence we were seeing, anecdotal evidence. But I do not recall any instance where I had direct evidence of the content of these meetings. It's just the frequency and prevalence of them was of concern."

Ooh, the scandal!!!

Do you check under your bed each night for media before you go to sleep?
A whole lot less of that "Q" nonsense would do you a world of good.

Send a Russian lawyer working for Fusion GPS to a meeting with Trump Jr, have foreign CIA assets (Mifsud and Halper) invite Papadopoulos and Page to conferences and bring up Russian topics and suddenly you have created a “frequency of meetings and contacts”. Mind you, there is no direct evidence, but all of the anecdotal evidence we generated sure made us suspicious!

James Comey said the Flynn conversations with Kislyak were normal, yet President Obama said they should investigate anyway. They worked so hard to frame him that the DOJ finally dropped the case.

Russia has always spied and meddled in American politics, this was simply a desperate attempt to tie the Russians directly to Trump. The absence of proof after the Mueller investigation and the extensive spying on the Trump campaign, shows that the evidence does not exist.

The MSM has aided the effort to defame our President, if you are truly interested in the truth, I suggest you spend less time consuming the junk food served by the MSM.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Send a Russian lawyer working for Fusion GPS to a meeting with Trump Jr, have foreign CIA assets (Mifsud and Halper) invite Papadopoulos and Page to conferences and bring up Russian topics and suddenly you have created a “frequency of meetings and contacts”. Mind you, there is no direct evidence, but all of the anecdotal evidence we generated sure made us suspicious!

James Comey said the Flynn conversations with Kislyak were normal, yet President Obama said they should investigate anyway. They worked so hard to frame him that the DOJ finally dropped the case.

Russia has always spied and meddled in American politics, this was simply a desperate attempt to tie the Russians directly to Trump. The absence of proof after the Mueller investigation and the extensive spying on the Trump campaign, shows that the evidence does not exist.

The MSM has aided the effort to defame our President, if you are truly interested in the truth, I suggest you spend less time consuming the junk food served by the MSM.

You are through the looking glass, bro.
Good luck with that.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Here is one example, under oath James Clapper said he saw no direct evidence of Trump colluding with Russia and they did not know the content of the meetings, while this is what he said on CNN:

“What was the Trump campaign doing at the same time?” Clapper said. “Essentially aiding and abetting the Russians and having contacts — dozens of contacts — with Russians, some of whom were connected officially to Russian intelligence, and not reporting it.”

Clapper is a fraud misleading the American people.

You realize Trump and the Trump Campaign are looked at as two entities right?

It's very easy to say that there was no evidence that Trump himself colluded with Russians, while at the same time admitting that there was evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russian nationals.

That seems to be what you just said. Right?

It's not misleading. It seems fairly direct.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by discostu

You realize Trump and the Trump Campaign are looked at as two entities right?

It's very easy to say that there was no evidence that Trump himself colluded with Russians, while at the same time admitting that there was evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russian nationals.

That seems to be what you just said. Right?

It's not misleading. It seems fairly direct.

No.

They claimed they were going after Page, Papadopalus, with foreign assets as part of the Russia investigation, but it was simply part of the ruse.

Think about it, when the FBI learned that Carter Page was working for the CIA, they altered an email from the CIA so it said that Carter Page WAS NOT working for the CIA. They tampered with evidence and took it to the FISA court and presented the falsified evidence to renew a secret warrant to allow them to continue to spy on the Trump campaign. They did not have evidence to support the continued spying, they had to manufacture it.

The use of these human assets and widespread electronic spying produced no tangible evidence that I know of. What do you think is the very best piece of documentary evidence that supports your claim of "collusion between the campaign and Russian nationals"?

[discostu]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

No.

They claimed they were going after Page, Papadopalus, with foreign assets as part of the Russia investigation, but it was simply part of the ruse.

Think about it, when the FBI learned that Carter Page was working for the CIA, they altered an email from the CIA so it said that Carter Page WAS NOT working for the CIA. They tampered with evidence and took it to the FISA court and presented the falsified evidence to renew a secret warrant to allow them to continue to spy on the Trump campaign. They did not have evidence to support the continued spying, they had to manufacture it.

The use of these human assets and widespread electronic spying produced no tangible evidence that I know of. What do you think is the very best piece of documentary evidence that supports your claim of "collusion between the campaign and Russian nationals"?

There's no doubt that an FBI attorney altered some documents/emails relating to Carter Page and that (and I believe that alone) will be the focus of Durham's report.

However, Michael Horowitz still seemed to believe that the FISA application was still valid even after knowing of the alterations. Clearly a flawed process, but yet still valid.

Not sure what the big mystery is here.

[DegaBama]

So Colin Kapernick can go away. Now 4th of July is a white supremacy holiday. No wonder his parents gave him up for adoption.

[coltsnsox07]

"67 shot, 13 fatally, over Fourth of July weekend in Chicago so far."
Stop shooting each other!

[preakness]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

"67 shot, 13 fatally, over Fourth of July weekend in Chicago so far."
Stop shooting each other!

Mom and dad need to sit the children down at the kitchen table prior to family board game night as talk to them about these killings in their neighborhoods

[preakness]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

"67 shot, 13 fatally, over Fourth of July weekend in Chicago so far."
Stop shooting each other!

If they weren't going to vote for Biden then they ain't black

[discostu]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

So Colin Kapernick can go away. Now 4th of July is a white supremacy holiday. No wonder his parents gave him up for adoption.

You can let Kaepernick go away without the douchy "no wonder his parents gave him away comment."

By adding him to the discussion...you keep him relevant.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by discostu

There's no doubt that an FBI attorney altered some documents/emails relating to Carter Page and that (and I believe that alone) will be the focus of Durham's report.

However, Michael Horowitz still seemed to believe that the FISA application was still valid even after knowing of the alterations. Clearly a flawed process, but yet still valid.

Not sure what the big mystery is here.

Horowitz thought it was valid? Really? I doubt it.

If he did, I couldn’t disagree with him more. When evidence is presented to the FISC for a FISA warrant to spy on an American citizen, the judge expects that all the evidence is thoroughly vetted and true, so falsifying evidence to continue not only spying on an American but an American connected to a politician that allows spying on everyone within the campaign as well as anyone that the campaign talks to, is a massive violation of Constitutional rights.

And if the FBI was willing to go to these greats lengths to take down a President, logic dictates that they would be willing to do most anything and they lose all benefit of the doubt when we look at other controversial actions that they took.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by discostu

You can let Kaepernick go away without the douchy "no wonder his parents gave him away comment."

By adding him to the discussion...you keep him relevant.

They just must have seen the racism that he causes. How anyone can defend this racist is a joke.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

They just must have seen the racism that he causes. How anyone can defend this racist is a joke.

I'm not defending him.

I'm also not saying that he can go away... while not letting him go away by keeping him relevant and bringing him up.

Making a joke about his parents giving him away is a dick move to all kids and adults who were adopted. You know that. Be better.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by discostu

I'm not defending him.

I'm also not saying that he can go away... while not letting him go away by keeping him relevant and bringing him up.

Making a joke about his parents giving him away is a dick move to all kids and adults who were adopted. You know that. Be better.

I know you weren't, but people in general.

It's ironic that he was adopted by WHITE parents and he claims he has lived such a tough life... while he's worth millions upon millions of dollars.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

"67 shot, 13 fatally, over Fourth of July weekend in Chicago so far."
Stop shooting each other!

Deflection, deflection, deflection. Actually seems a little light for the holiday weekend.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by discostu

I'm not defending him.

I'm also not saying that he can go away... while not letting him go away by keeping him relevant and bringing him up.

Making a joke about his parents giving him away is a dick move to all kids and adults who were adopted. You know that. Be better.

If he opens his mouth enough he'll never get another shot in the NFL. Which is fine with me. The guy is trash.