Patrick Mahomes Prices

[jswest18]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I agree with everything except the bolded section. Maybe "usually" lags behind the base card is closer to the truth. There are so many examples now (ie. Galactic in basketball) where the insert is the most sought after card.

Well I did say at the end of my post that SP or SSP inserts still can have significant desirability. I guess I could have worded that better and stated they can have as much if not more desirability as the base and it’s parallels.

What I was really pointing to, or trying to point to, was the difference between the base card and it’s parallels verses the non SSP inserts and their parallels. Which is the example that was being discussed in the “Rated Rookies” base v. “the Rookies” insert.

[TheCrow]

Originally Posted by weeds73

I was asking about this awhile back before I bought a chainmail and got some feedback from some BO members that ripped some wax. Seems chainmail is most rare of the non-numbered parallels. See following thread:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1352584

That's what I kind of thought. Thanks for the link!

[coltsfan23]

Originally Posted by TheCrow

That's what I kind of thought. Thanks for the link!

I take it you bought the Chainmail on eBay? Shocked it lasted that long, was a good price considering what the last few Shining Armors have sold at.

[flinchfree]

Originally Posted by jswest18

The bolder is pretty much it. There’s a lot of discussion and opinions about what is a “true rookie” these days since there are so many products, parallels and inserts. I think the general consensus is that for a given set or product the base card and any parallel of it are considered the “true rookie” in that product whereas an insert in that product would not be. Inserts are still cards in his rookie season and still considered a “RC” by most and is obviously sought after but it should always lag behind the base card.

Just as a note, some inserts still can have significant desirability If they are short printed.

Thanks mate, appreciate the follow up.

[flinchfree]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I agree with everything except the bolded section. Maybe "usually" lags behind the base card is closer to the truth. There are so many examples now (ie. Galactic in basketball) where the insert is the most sought after card.

Makes sense, thanks.

[TheCrow]

Originally Posted by randino101

FYI - in case anybody is looking at this raw Optic Bronze Mahomes RC. The seller obtained this card from me about a month ago and asked for a partial refund because I missed a tiny surface mark in my description. Of course, now he's asking almost 3x for it and calling it "minty" with no description of its surface or corner flaws (he's even using my original pics!) when he knows good & well the card is firmly in the NM-MT category.

Caveat Emptor...



https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Donrus...IAAOSwvudfJ6y3

Appreciate the info...There's way too many shady people like this on eBay. I will make sure I never buy anything from them. Blacklisted.
For the most part I've been satisfied with the condition of the cards I've bought off eBay. I've only sent complaints to two people who claimed the cards were in mint condition, and ended up having relatively serious flaws. They both said they weren't aware of the flaws (don't know if that's true or not), and we were able to work something out. I sent one of the cards back, because fortunately the seller had another one, and he mailed that one out to me after. As for the other seller, he sent me a free 2017 Mahomes Optic The Rookies to compensate me, which now is probably more valuable than the card I actually paid for LOL

[TheCrow]

Originally Posted by coltsfan23

I take it you bought the Chainmail on eBay? Shocked it lasted that long, was a good price considering what the last few Shining Armors have sold at.

Nope that wasn't me. You talking about the one that sold for $449? Wish I had, that is a good price. I do plan on getting one eventually though. Right now I just have his Shining Armor, Templar, Chivalry /199, and base from that set.

[ajtilley72]

Hadn’t looked at prices in awhile. Anyone have a general idea as to what a ‘17 Optic Gold Rated Rookie Auto /10 in PSA 9 would run today?

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by ajtilley72

Hadn’t looked at prices in awhile. Anyone have a general idea as to what a ‘17 Optic Gold Rated Rookie Auto /10 in PSA 9 would run today?

Really depends on the auto, most of the Optic Autos are pretty terrible quality. Still a very desirable card regardless of autograph quality though.

[ajtilley72]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Really depends on the auto, most of the Optic Autos are pretty terrible quality. Still a very desirable card regardless of autograph quality though.

More than likely a 9 type auto. Completely agree his Optic autos are incredibly streaky :/

Bought it trying to hedge against a ‘17 Contenders Optic Gold Auto of his. Haven’t seen a ‘17 Contenders Optic Gold pop though

[TheCrow]

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

Welps...it finally arrived almost a week after it was supposed to show up.

2017 Contenders Optic Red Rookie of the Year 4/49.

LOVE the red...absolutely love it! Really glad to add it to my pc.

That's a hot looking card!

[cardsharkk]

Did a BGS 9 Red Optic Contender Auto /75, BGS 9 Mint, just sell for $16,000?

ttps://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Contenders-Optic-Patrick-Mahomes-II-RC-Red-Auto-75-BGS-9-Mint-Chiefs/203050257791?hash=item2f46bd0d7f:g:x0QAAOSwPvxfEI7-

I tried looking on watchcount but it was showing full price? Can anyone confirm?

[TheCrow]

Originally Posted by hanstess

I still have the dual with Hunt. Bought it for like $50 dlvd way back when. Cool card but the wrong complimentary player

Tell me about it... I bought Hunt's Contenders auto rookie literally a week before he got in trouble and all his cards tanked...

[randino101]

Originally Posted by cardsharkk

Did a BGS 9 Red Optic Contender Auto /75, BGS 9 Mint, just sell for $16,000?

ttps://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Contenders-Optic-Patrick-Mahomes-II-RC-Red-Auto-75-BGS-9-Mint-Chiefs/203050257791?hash=item2f46bd0d7f:g:x0QAAOSwPvxfEI7-

I tried looking on watchcount but it was showing full price? Can anyone confirm?

Yes, I can confirm because I bought that sucker and just received it in the mail today. As other owners of these cards have attested to, they're seriously awesome in hand!

I know another BGS 9 sold not long ago for almost half that price, but this one has higher sub grades and there was a PSA 9 that sold for $32k (w/ the 20% buyer fees) on the Heritage Auction site late last week. The seller had originally said he'd accept 14 - 15k but as two dudes were getting into a bidding war on the HA site for the PSA 9 during the extended bidding session, multiple offers were coming in for this card & I knew that if I wanted it I'd just have to bend over & hit the BIN as the seller was out on vacation.

For me, this was a bucket list card that I should have bought long, long ago (much like the Prizm Red SSP), so I figured f**k it as I have enough other equity built up in other Mahomes, Lamars, sealed wax, etc. that I can unload to pay for it. I also have a Red Optic /50 Rated Rookie BGS 9.5 Auto with a bold non-streaky 10 auto, the base /99 Red in both BGS 9.5 & PSA 10, the Red Optic RoY Contenders /49 in PSA 10 as well as PSA 10 or 9 versions of the Red /99 The Rookies, Gridiron Kings, Illusions and AKA so really wanted this guy to round out the Optic Reds, so to speak.

Also, there's a dude now selling a different PSA 9 and he's asking $32k based off of the HA sale...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini...YAAOSwtwxfJeDl

[bberns]

Originally Posted by flinchfree

Makes sense, thanks.

Not to muddy the waters, but the galactic is actually a parallel (like a prizm gold or a PMG) and can be a parallel of either a base card or an insert. This is true in basketball, football and soccer.

[BosPats1980]

It's nice to see the Sparkles get some respect

Originally Posted by Vdm2018

Wow $10k already




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[kcroyalsfan8515]

Originally Posted by randino101

Yes, I can confirm because I bought that sucker and just received it in the mail today. As other owners of these cards have attested to, they're seriously awesome in hand!

I know another BGS 9 sold not long ago for almost half that price, but this one has higher sub grades and there was a PSA 9 that sold for $32k (w/ the 20% buyer fees) on the Heritage Auction site late last week. The seller had originally said he'd accept 14 - 15k but as two dudes were getting into a bidding war on the HA site for the PSA 9 during the extended bidding session, multiple offers were coming in for this card & I knew that if I wanted it I'd just have to bend over & hit the BIN as the seller was out on vacation.

For me, this was a bucket list card that I should have bought long, long ago (much like the Prizm Red SSP), so I figured f**k it as I have enough other equity built up in other Mahomes, Lamars, sealed wax, etc. that I can unload to pay for it. I also have a Red Optic /50 Rated Rookie BGS 9.5 Auto with a bold non-streaky 10 auto, the base /99 Red in both BGS 9.5 & PSA 10, the Red Optic RoY Contenders /49 in PSA 10 as well as PSA 10 or 9 versions of the Red /99 The Rookies, Gridiron Kings, Illusions and AKA so really wanted this guy to round out the Optic Reds, so to speak.

Also, there's a dude now selling a different PSA 9 and he's asking $32k based off of the HA sale...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini...YAAOSwtwxfJeDl

Number 1 card on my wishlist.... If anyone wants to trade one let me know... Lol

[ksemmel]

While you are all bragging about your shiny cards, new cars and big houses, I'm out picking up this monster. I present to you, the cheapest Mahomes pack-pulled auto out there. Boom.

Untitled by kyle semmel, on Flickr

[BosPats1980]

Congrats! I've never seen that before

Originally Posted by ksemmel

While you are all bragging about your shiny cards, new cars and big houses, I'm out picking up this monster. I present to you, the cheapest Mahomes pack-pulled auto out there. Boom.

Untitled by kyle semmel, on Flickr

[Supersuper]

Originally Posted by AUSSIE GAMBLER

I'm not sure if this is considered a rookie auto,but these are quite unique and rare.I watched 12 dozen case breaks(amost 14,000 cards) and none came out.


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Check on the back. If it manufactured in the same year as his rookie year, it should be considered his rookie card/ auto, no matter it has rc logo on the top or not.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Supersuper

Check on the back. If it manufactured in the same year as his rookie year, it should be considered his rookie card/ auto, no matter it has rc logo on the top or not.

Lol. That depends on who you talk to.

[Supersuper]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Lol. That depends on who you talk to.

Yes, you are right. Some particular cards are different. Like 86 fleer Jordan#57, many people still consider that one is his main “rookie” card. That’s pretty much out of my knowledge....

[arod305]

Been buying up psa 9 prizms. I think long term its a card that a 9 grade will be just fine on. Seems about every 3rd or 4th copy I get is fairly clean. The spread between a 9.5 and a psa 9 isn't large enough yet, but would consider cracking if things ever normalize.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by randino101

Yes, I can confirm because I bought that sucker and just received it in the mail today. As other owners of these cards have attested to, they're seriously awesome in hand!

I know another BGS 9 sold not long ago for almost half that price, but this one has higher sub grades and there was a PSA 9 that sold for $32k (w/ the 20% buyer fees) on the Heritage Auction site late last week. The seller had originally said he'd accept 14 - 15k but as two dudes were getting into a bidding war on the HA site for the PSA 9 during the extended bidding session, multiple offers were coming in for this card & I knew that if I wanted it I'd just have to bend over & hit the BIN as the seller was out on vacation.

For me, this was a bucket list card that I should have bought long, long ago (much like the Prizm Red SSP), so I figured f**k it as I have enough other equity built up in other Mahomes, Lamars, sealed wax, etc. that I can unload to pay for it. I also have a Red Optic /50 Rated Rookie BGS 9.5 Auto with a bold non-streaky 10 auto, the base /99 Red in both BGS 9.5 & PSA 10, the Red Optic RoY Contenders /49 in PSA 10 as well as PSA 10 or 9 versions of the Red /99 The Rookies, Gridiron Kings, Illusions and AKA so really wanted this guy to round out the Optic Reds, so to speak.

Also, there's a dude now selling a different PSA 9 and he's asking $32k based off of the HA sale...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini...YAAOSwtwxfJeDl

Awesome and congrats! One of my favorite Mahomes cards!!! As you stated, when you get it in hand, any hint of regret goes away.

[Meets1]

Originally Posted by arod305

Been buying up psa 9 prizms. I think long term its a card that a 9 grade will be just fine on. Seems about every 3rd or 4th copy I get is fairly clean. The spread between a 9.5 and a psa 9 isn't large enough yet, but would consider cracking if things ever normalize.

Do you think that still has more room to run higher in the short term? Aren't they around $2k now?