Yet Another Altered '48 Leaf Jackie Robinson from PWCC: Recolored PSA 6 in the Vault

3124508 on COMC · 08-12-2020, 06:54 PM

This card has never sold publicly before and is from a 6-figure PSA sub made by Brent/Gary. This sub contains the well-known recolored 1952 Bowman PSA 10 Musial, among other altered cards. This card is currently listed in the PWCC Vault for $38k. Color has been added to the print line, most notably over Jackie's eyebrow and down his cheek and neck. Black also appears to be added at the top and bottom of the nameplate along the same print line. The staining on the bottom left has also been cleaned up, as have the corners and edges, however those are minor alterations compared to the recoloring. Buyer beware. I wonder who owns this one...

Vault listing: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/vault-marketplace/6233
PSA submission: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2697
Unaltered sale: https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

The last comparison in the images below shows a spot on the print line of missing black ink that has not been removed. This is because that spot should appear on the card. Therefore, it is a useful reference to show how the areas above and below this dot have been colored in to help eliminate the print defect.

vwnut13 · 08-12-2020, 07:08 PM

Doesn't PSA charge more for grading cards based on their value (think of how much of a racket that is) so they can have more "experts" look at the card?

You would think that it would be pretty obvious that the recoloring isn't the same as the print method of the card.

ken161 · 08-12-2020, 07:53 PM

You would think these sort of alterations would show up using a black light and a loupe. Maybe the card doctors have gotten so sophisticated that stuff like this is difficult to detect? I don't know.

So glad I unloaded my plastic. Plenty of collector-grade cards available for sets I collect. I haven't had this much fun in years.

Never get cheated.

rcmb3220 · 08-12-2020, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vwnut13

Doesn't PSA charge more for grading cards based on their value (think of how much of a racket that is) so they can have more "experts" look at the card?

You would think that it would be pretty obvious that the recoloring isn't the same as the print method of the card.

I think it’s because of their guarantee, which is a fox guarding the henhouse type of arrangement.

3124508 on COMC · 08-12-2020, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnut13

Doesn't PSA charge more for grading cards based on their value (think of how much of a racket that is) so they can have more "experts" look at the card?

You would think that it would be pretty obvious that the recoloring isn't the same as the print method of the card.

I guess they just operate off the assumption that the average customer of their products is too stupid to notice, so it makes no difference.

corndog · 08-12-2020, 08:41 PM

Nice catch!

pip · 08-12-2020, 08:53 PM

Blacklight.

pip · 08-12-2020, 08:57 PM

I've said it before but if the FBI needs more evidence, they should take a trip to the PWCC vault with a UV source (long wave, 365 nm). There's probably millions of dollars of altered cards there that would fluoresce in highly unnatural ways.

pip · 08-12-2020, 09:16 PM

Link for the FBI. Use one of the "industrial" ones. They'll pick up everything:

https://www.amazon.com/UVP-95-0007-0...TB08K99MRXGKW8

MoreToppsPlease · 08-12-2020, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

I guess they just operate off the assumption that the average customer of their products is too stupid to notice, so it makes no difference.

They operate off the assumption that investors are buying label numbers and not cards.

Bruins1993 · 08-13-2020, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pip

I've said it before but if the FBI needs more evidence, they should take a trip to the PWCC vault with a UV source (long wave, 365 nm). There's probably millions of dollars of altered cards there that would fluoresce in highly unnatural ways.

I would love to see that day come.

At this point I've lost confidence Brusokas will pursue fraud in this hobby beyond 100% forgeries. I hope I am wrong!

There are not many victims in this "hobby" when most of the collectors/investors just want to screw the next guy buying the card, and so forth down the line. I'm sure the last guy holding the altered card (with numerical grade) will cry victim when they can't unload it or get a refund.

GatorPie · 08-13-2020, 08:33 AM

I just don't know how you can take a marker to an iconic card like this, especially one as nicely centered as this one (for the issue). It's just sick.

pspa123 · 08-13-2020, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pip

I've said it before but if the FBI needs more evidence, they should take a trip to the PWCC vault with a UV source (long wave, 365 nm). There's probably millions of dollars of altered cards there that would fluoresce in highly unnatural ways.

I think one would need a hazmat suit to walk into that vault.

GatorPie · 08-13-2020, 10:29 AM

Forget the UV light, I would think you'd be able to spot touch-ups like this by just tilting the card under a regular light bulb. I would think it's impossible to match the original gloss and it would stick out immediately.

I simply cannot believe PSA graders, especially with a card of this magnitude, are that incompetent. In other words, I have to believe corruption is the only reason this card was given a numerical grade.

pip · 08-13-2020, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorPie

I just don't know how you can take a marker to an iconic card like this, especially one as nicely centered as this one (for the issue). It's just sick.

You would think they would at least try to colormatch. I've noticed that dark gray seems to be the color du jour in numerous touch ups in other BODA threads too.

08-12-2020, 06:54 PM	#1
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,457	Yet Another Altered '48 Leaf Jackie Robinson from PWCC: Recolored PSA 6 in the Vault This card has never sold publicly before and is from a 6-figure PSA sub made by Brent/Gary. This sub contains the well-known recolored 1952 Bowman PSA 10 Musial, among other altered cards. This card is currently listed in the PWCC Vault for $38k. Color has been added to the print line, most notably over Jackie's eyebrow and down his cheek and neck. Black also appears to be added at the top and bottom of the nameplate along the same print line. The staining on the bottom left has also been cleaned up, as have the corners and edges, however those are minor alterations compared to the recoloring. Buyer beware. I wonder who owns this one... Vault listing: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/vault-marketplace/6233 PSA submission: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2697 Unaltered sale: https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515 The last comparison in the images below shows a spot on the print line of missing black ink that has not been removed. This is because that spot should appear on the card. Therefore, it is a useful reference to show how the areas above and below this dot have been colored in to help eliminate the print defect. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

08-12-2020, 08:41 PM	#6
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 18,698	Nice catch! __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

08-12-2020, 07:08 PM	#2
vwnut13 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 6,135	Doesn't PSA charge more for grading cards based on their value (think of how much of a racket that is) so they can have more "experts" look at the card? You would think that it would be pretty obvious that the recoloring isn't the same as the print method of the card.

08-12-2020, 07:53 PM	#3
ken161 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 419	You would think these sort of alterations would show up using a black light and a loupe. Maybe the card doctors have gotten so sophisticated that stuff like this is difficult to detect? I don't know. So glad I unloaded my plastic. Plenty of collector-grade cards available for sets I collect. I haven't had this much fun in years. Never get cheated.

08-12-2020, 08:53 PM	#7
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	Blacklight.

08-12-2020, 08:57 PM	#8
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	I've said it before but if the FBI needs more evidence, they should take a trip to the PWCC vault with a UV source (long wave, 365 nm). There's probably millions of dollars of altered cards there that would fluoresce in highly unnatural ways.

08-12-2020, 09:16 PM	#9
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	Link for the FBI. Use one of the "industrial" ones. They'll pick up everything: https://www.amazon.com/UVP-95-0007-0...TB08K99MRXGKW8

08-13-2020, 08:33 AM	#12
GatorPie Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 1,199	I just don't know how you can take a marker to an iconic card like this, especially one as nicely centered as this one (for the issue). It's just sick.

08-13-2020, 10:29 AM	#14
GatorPie Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 1,199	Forget the UV light, I would think you'd be able to spot touch-ups like this by just tilting the card under a regular light bulb. I would think it's impossible to match the original gloss and it would stick out immediately. I simply cannot believe PSA graders, especially with a card of this magnitude, are that incompetent. In other words, I have to believe corruption is the only reason this card was given a numerical grade.