**Official Luka Doncic Thread** - Page 434

dcarado · 08-20-2020, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gameissued

Here's what the 2007 NBA Finals Starting Lineup would have looked like with Luka instead of LeBron.. add in Daniel Gibson and watch out!

Larry Hughes
Sasha Pavlovic
Luka Doncic
Drew Gooden
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Yes, because the '07 Cavs team is a perfect representation of the level of talent Lebron has played with in his career

How about we start with teams he's actually won the Finals with...

dcarado · 08-20-2020, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Willikn

Middle ground in here. It was the correct basketball play, especially for a playoff game. No layups. Leader has to set the tone. The, "Do as I say, not as I do." mantra doesn't work long term. If Luka isn't giving up layups, then no one can.

Exactly, and unless you're James Harden, it goes against everything a player knows to just allow a guy an uncontested layup. I agree though, it could've cost them in a game like this and he has to know that.

ksemmel · 08-20-2020, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Willikn

Middle ground in here. It was the correct basketball play, especially for a playoff game. No layups. Leader has to set the tone. The, "Do as I say, not as I do." mantra doesn't work long term. If Luka isn't giving up layups, then no one can.

Kawhi missed the 2nd one to boot. Shooting 85% from the line means 30% chance he misses one of two. Pretty much zero percent that he misses a layup.

He had 5 fouls in the 4th and sat a majority of it (yes I know score played a part as well). But if that was a close game in the 4th and he was in foul trouble, they would lose more with him on the bench than they would from giving up the layup.

Willikn · 08-20-2020, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ksemmel

He had 5 fouls in the 4th and sat a majority of it (yes I know score played a part as well). But if that was a close game in the 4th and he was in foul trouble, they would lose more with him on the bench than they would from giving up the layup.

I get that. The foul you are talking about was his 2nd. Hindsight and so forth. I'd be more alarmed by him drawing fouls with the flop/charge defense.

I'm not totally disagreeing with you. I'm just saying, what he did wasn't akin to picking up a 2nd technical foul. It was the right play. In my old fart way of thinking, necessary to set a tone. Protecting his foul total at all costs is a fair assessment too.

sportzluvr1 · 08-20-2020, 08:14 AM

Scary to think that the best player on the floor may very well be wearing a Mavericks jersey.

Porzingis is a matchup nightmare for LA while guys like Hardaway and Curry just hang around the perimeter and wait for that open shot because the defense will inevitably collapse on Luka when he drives.

The Mavs are a scrappy team with a legit underdog vibe and im in to it. Next year they will probably be “the hunted” and people who dont own Luka cards will be rooting against them.

dkcardman · 08-20-2020, 09:38 AM

I really dont understand why they play Boban so sparingly. Every time he plays, he is a force on Defense and the boards and is actually a good offensive player as well.
Dude played 10 minutes, had 13 points and 9 rebounds. That is insane for 10 minutes work. And plus minus of +12 in just 10 minutes of play. That is crazy!

sheffield77 · 08-20-2020, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dkcardman

I really dont understand why they play Boban so sparingly. Every time he plays, he is a force on Defense and the boards and is actually a good offensive player as well.
Dude played 10 minutes, had 13 points and 9 rebounds. That is insane for 10 minutes work. And plus minus of +12 in just 10 minutes of play. That is crazy!

Agreed what does the guy have to do to get more minutes?

Also would having Boban and KP playing at the same time be feasible? Two different offensive styles

TSonn · 08-20-2020, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gameissued

Here's what the 2007 NBA Finals Starting Lineup would have looked like with Luka instead of LeBron.. add in Daniel Gibson and watch out!

Larry Hughes
Sasha Pavlovic
Luka Doncic
Drew Gooden
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Haha. That was a spectacular run by LeBron in 2007. Also - don't disrespect Big Z like that.

How about if Luka teams up with Giannis and a guy like Oladipo? That's about the talent level LeBron needed to win 2 championships (and lose 2 championships).

brock · 08-20-2020, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sheffield77

Agreed what does the guy have to do to get more minutes?

Also would having Boban and KP playing at the same time be feasible? Two different offensive styles

Could be fabricating something here, but I thought he was on some sort of permanent minutes restriction because of his physical makeup. Almost like he gets overheated or something. Have the faintest memory of an announcer explaining that once when he was on a previous team.

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Asian62150 · 08-20-2020, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by brock

Could be fabricating something here, but I thought he was on some sort of permanent minutes restriction because of his physical makeup. Almost like he gets overheated or something. Have the faintest memory of an announcer explaining that once when he was on a previous team.

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He's had some crazy stat games when guys are injured/resting and has played a lot of minutes in those games.

He played 30 min against the Nuggets earlier this year (put up 31/17) and then played almost 30 min against Phoenix in the last game of the bubble (18/20).

His per 36 min avg is 23/15.

rifleman69 · 08-20-2020, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dkcardman

I really dont understand why they play Boban so sparingly. Every time he plays, he is a force on Defense and the boards and is actually a good offensive player as well.
Dude played 10 minutes, had 13 points and 9 rebounds. That is insane for 10 minutes work. And plus minus of +12 in just 10 minutes of play. That is crazy!

Conditioning.

moosetequila · 08-20-2020, 11:00 AM

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They are more rare then others 1:37

1 PSA 10 in hand
2 at PSA

Got base psa 10
Purple 9.5
Orange psa 10 arrives from psa tomorrow
I really like these cards

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RogerGodahell · 08-20-2020, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Haha. That was a spectacular run by LeBron in 2007. Also - don't disrespect Big Z like that.

How about if Luka teams up with Giannis and a guy like Oladipo? That's about the talent level LeBron needed to win 2 championships (and lose 2 championships).

I don't think it will ever happen but you never know. If Giannis doesn't win a chip this year or next he might get sick of MIL and leave.

In that hypothetical scenario if he did join the Mavs... it's over for everyone else. For a long time. That wouldn't even be a fair contest. Imagine Luka tossing lobs to Giannis or hitting him on cuts to the rim. Or having the option to do the same with Porzingis or kick it out to him for 3. Or for Luka to just keep the ball and score whenever he wants. Plus the added benefit of having the best defensive player on your team. Probably never happen but if Giannis does want to opt out of MIL someday i don't think there is any better place for him to go. He would fit perfectly in their system. Luka/Giannis/Porzingis could be the greatest trio of all-time imo. The European Dream Team

Timo · 08-20-2020, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

I don't think it will ever happen but you never know. If Giannis doesn't win a chip this year or next he might get sick of MIL and leave.

In that hypothetical scenario if he did join the Mavs... it's over for everyone else. For a long time. That wouldn't even be a fair contest. Imagine Luka tossing lobs to Giannis or hitting him on cuts to the rim. Or having the option to do the same with Porzingis or kick it out to him for 3. Or for Luka to just keep the ball and score whenever he wants. Plus the added benefit of having the best defensive player on your team. Probably never happen but if Giannis does want to opt out of MIL someday i don't think there is any better place for him to go. He would fit perfectly in their system. Luka/Giannis/Porzingis could be the greatest trio of all-time imo. The European Dream Team

From your mouth to God's ears.

TSonn · 08-20-2020, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

I don't think it will ever happen but you never know. If Giannis doesn't win a chip this year or next he might get sick of MIL and leave.

In that hypothetical scenario if he did join the Mavs... it's over for everyone else. For a long time. That wouldn't even be a fair contest. Imagine Luka tossing lobs to Giannis or hitting him on cuts to the rim. Or having the option to do the same with Porzingis or kick it out to him for 3. Or for Luka to just keep the ball and score whenever he wants. Plus the added benefit of having the best defensive player on your team. Probably never happen but if Giannis does want to opt out of MIL someday i don't think there is any better place for him to go. He would fit perfectly in their system. Luka/Giannis/Porzingis could be the greatest trio of all-time imo. The European Dream Team

Yeah I actually don't want that to happen - I'd like to see both guys stay with their drafted teams and meet in the finals for multiple years in a row.

yoyosh · 08-20-2020, 11:41 AM

After you guys pointed out those auction results I had to take these out for a picture.
Had 1 other which I unfortunately sold off ages ago

bloodwings19 · 08-20-2020, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dkcardman

I really dont understand why they play Boban so sparingly. Every time he plays, he is a force on Defense and the boards and is actually a good offensive player as well.
Dude played 10 minutes, had 13 points and 9 rebounds. That is insane for 10 minutes work. And plus minus of +12 in just 10 minutes of play. That is crazy!

That is why the Mavs win.

Willikn · 08-20-2020, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sheffield77

Agreed what does the guy have to do to get more minutes?

Also would having Boban and KP playing at the same time be feasible? Two different offensive styles

Neither of them can guard the average BO poster. Both on the floor at the same time.. not good.

heatdawg · 08-20-2020, 12:08 PM

I am finally seeing all the excitement from Luca. GJ investing in him early whoever did. I thought he was just another euro pump. I think his attitude is what I like the most, being humbled so early in his career is going to pay off for him.

Dallas in general looks really good, with or without Luca. Luca makes them contenders now. If not this year, watch out next year.

NBA just keeps getting better. Football is much more exciting to watch but NBA is catching up with all the young stars.

Timo · 08-20-2020, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Yeah I actually don't want that to happen - I'd like to see both guys stay with their drafted teams and meet in the finals for multiple years in a row.

Nah, I'd rather see Giannis playing with Luka and KP than against. The overtime win against the Bucks where Luka went 36/14/19 was incredibly entertaining though.

salivashays · 08-20-2020, 12:17 PM

The greatest thing about Luka is that he can play in the league damn-near as long as he wants as his game doesn't depend on elite athleticism. He has amazing vision, incredible fundamentals, is beautifully patient, can shoot the lights out, and (most importantly) he has that DOG inside of him.
He uses his body and body control better than any NBA player that I've ever seen inside the lane to hold off defenders and create shots. Though he's not fast by any means, his first step is deceitfully quick and his step-back jumper is completely unguardable while being available at will.
There's not many negatives to his game and the ones that he has are totally fixable. For example, I wish he would pick and choose his battles with the refs---don't complain about EVERY missed call or concern. Also, I'd like to see him have better control of his emotions in general. There are times when he lets that internal fire negatively effect his game. But, I feel like emotional control will come with age and natural maturity.
Luka's game is insanely good and I feel lucky to watch him grow. And, to the thought of Giannis joining the Mavs via free agency---my mind can't even comprehend the dominance that would entail.

Prospectorsadvantage · 08-20-2020, 12:25 PM

Shannon dropping knowledge.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CEHmYUM...=1dr3rnf2hvswl

Timo · 08-20-2020, 12:25 PM

BTW, for those that missed the game against Milwaukee or just want to re-watch the highlights again:

https://youtu.be/ZOcshXYXtFo

The shot making, passing, ability to drive and finish was spectacular that night. Special

BC81 · 08-20-2020, 12:50 PM

Loved last night’s game. Luka looks unstoppable right now.

More importantly the role players stepped it up several levels. Really happy to see Curry and THJ play within their role of the offense.

One unheralded aspect of Luka is his ability to draw fouls and putting opposing players in foul trouble. I don’t think PG will play this bad, but I hope Luka can keep his adjustments several steps ahead of the clippers.

Luka is a genius that happens to play basketball.

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RedMike · 08-20-2020, 01:49 PM

It is going to be a battle mavericks fan.. Lets enjoy it.

08-20-2020, 12:25 PM	#10847
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08-20-2020, 08:14 AM	#10830
sportzluvr1 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: the blue waffle of the Great Midwest Posts: 7,700	Scary to think that the best player on the floor may very well be wearing a Mavericks jersey. Porzingis is a matchup nightmare for LA while guys like Hardaway and Curry just hang around the perimeter and wait for that open shot because the defense will inevitably collapse on Luka when he drives. The Mavs are a scrappy team with a legit underdog vibe and im in to it. Next year they will probably be “the hunted” and people who dont own Luka cards will be rooting against them.

08-20-2020, 09:38 AM	#10831
dkcardman Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Buford, Ga Posts: 2,506 dkcardman dkcardman	I really dont understand why they play Boban so sparingly. Every time he plays, he is a force on Defense and the boards and is actually a good offensive player as well. Dude played 10 minutes, had 13 points and 9 rebounds. That is insane for 10 minutes work. And plus minus of +12 in just 10 minutes of play. That is crazy!

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yoyosh Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: USA Posts: 4,269 partyauctions yoyosh	After you guys pointed out those auction results I had to take these out for a picture. Had 1 other which I unfortunately sold off ages ago

08-20-2020, 12:08 PM	#10844
heatdawg Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 1,489 heatbreaker	I am finally seeing all the excitement from Luca. GJ investing in him early whoever did. I thought he was just another euro pump. I think his attitude is what I like the most, being humbled so early in his career is going to pay off for him. Dallas in general looks really good, with or without Luca. Luca makes them contenders now. If not this year, watch out next year. NBA just keeps getting better. Football is much more exciting to watch but NBA is catching up with all the young stars.

08-20-2020, 12:17 PM	#10846
salivashays Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: TN Posts: 60	The greatest thing about Luka is that he can play in the league damn-near as long as he wants as his game doesn't depend on elite athleticism. He has amazing vision, incredible fundamentals, is beautifully patient, can shoot the lights out, and (most importantly) he has that DOG inside of him. He uses his body and body control better than any NBA player that I've ever seen inside the lane to hold off defenders and create shots. Though he's not fast by any means, his first step is deceitfully quick and his step-back jumper is completely unguardable while being available at will. There's not many negatives to his game and the ones that he has are totally fixable. For example, I wish he would pick and choose his battles with the refs---don't complain about EVERY missed call or concern. Also, I'd like to see him have better control of his emotions in general. There are times when he lets that internal fire negatively effect his game. But, I feel like emotional control will come with age and natural maturity. Luka's game is insanely good and I feel lucky to watch him grow. And, to the thought of Giannis joining the Mavs via free agency---my mind can't even comprehend the dominance that would entail.

08-20-2020, 12:25 PM	#10848
Timo Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 633	BTW, for those that missed the game against Milwaukee or just want to re-watch the highlights again: https://youtu.be/ZOcshXYXtFo The shot making, passing, ability to drive and finish was spectacular that night. Special

08-20-2020, 12:50 PM	#10849
BC81 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,152 BC_Sports_Collection BC_Sports_Collection	Loved last night’s game. Luka looks unstoppable right now. More importantly the role players stepped it up several levels. Really happy to see Curry and THJ play within their role of the offense. One unheralded aspect of Luka is his ability to draw fouls and putting opposing players in foul trouble. I don’t think PG will play this bad, but I hope Luka can keep his adjustments several steps ahead of the clippers. Luka is a genius that happens to play basketball. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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