2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Boo]

Originally Posted by packman80

Right now the left are saying the riots are all because of Trump that he's racist and that the real people doing it are plants that are really part of white power groups.

So if Trump loses they go away?

[techtre2003]

This was posted on Twitter and I thought it was a pretty good statement:

"The rioters don't understand why business owners would be upset to see their whole life's work go up in flames because the rioters have never done anything of value in their entire lives. They simply can't relate to the feelings of productive humans. This is an uprising of the unproductive leeches against the productive contributors. It is NOT "poor vs rich." Most of the people losing everything are not rich. They're just normal hard working Americans. And many of the rioters are far more privileged than their victims"

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

This was posted on Twitter and I thought it was a pretty good statement:

"The rioters don't understand why business owners would be upset to see their whole life's work go up in flames because the rioters have never done anything of value in their entire lives. They simply can't relate to the feelings of productive humans. This is an uprising of the unproductive leeches against the productive contributors. It is NOT "poor vs rich." Most of the people losing everything are not rich. They're just normal hard working Americans. And many of the rioters are far more privileged than their victims"

Very true. And it's disheartening. Part of my job has been helping those affected by the riots get their businesses back up and running. These people didn't deserve this. They are part of the economy in these communities and are having their businesses destroyed and lives threatened after choosing to do business in that community. What... the... F?

I can't imagine wanting to continue to do business in a city where there's an incredibly high probability of having your business destroyed. No business is exempt either. The protesters/rioters/looters (same thing at this point) will bust through to get inside just to look for cash or break the ATM even if you don't sell goods worth stealing. If the protesters want to separate themselves from those who are damaging property and hurting people, then do something about that while you're busy protesting. Defend your damn community.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by captionwanker

I love how everyone crapped on DeSantis but he stuck to his guns and looks like a genius. Disney World, NBA, WWE residency, NFL/NCAA will open to fans, increase tourism and housing market compared to rest of the country.

Meanwhile, the dump that is Washington and Oregon, doesn't even have a plan in place except let Seattle and Portland burn down every night.

As someone who lives near Seattle this might be one of the dumbest things I’ve read.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by trixstar

As someone who lives near Seattle this might be one of the dumbest things I’ve read.

Care to explain? Seems on point to me.

[Jgil316]

For anyone who follows and is watching Fox, Hannity, Ingrham, Carlson and are watching the RNC - ALL cities in the USA are burning to the ground and ONLY the Republican run cities are safe.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I hate this sentiment.

The NBA is a business and does not exist without players and/or fans. Players create the product, the fans buy it.
Whether it is a proper platform is not determined by those who make the product, it’s determined by those that buy it. So if the NBA loses fans because it produces a product people don’t want to consume any more, it was a bad business choice. If the NBA giants fans, it’s a good choice. If there is no net change, there is no significant difference.

If a fan says this is not a product I want to consume anymore, it doesn’t need to be justified as to whether he/she is right or wrong.

To be fair, what the NBA and other leagues are doing isn’t a platform for discussion. Its a platform for promotion of one side. There is no discussion taking place not is it even encouraged. They’ve already chosen one side of it including any and all information or misinformation it entails.

The "other side" to this is Black Lives Don't Matter.
What should the NBA do?
Allow Klan rallies at halftime?
Paint the Confederate flag on the court?

[captionwanker]

Originally Posted by trixstar

As someone who lives near Seattle this might be one of the dumbest things I’ve read.

One of the dumbest rebuttals I have ever read. You live near, means you live in the gated suburbs. You only come downtown to watch Seahawks games.

[MIRRABB]

When you see what happened in Kenosha last night it's just clear why fewer and fewer people have any trust in the police.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Florida has it figured out, wish more would have followed the same model.

Florida

* 25th for Tests performed per million pop
* 2nd for total cases per million pop
* 3rd in Total cases
* 15th in total deaths per million pop
* 1st in active cases
* 14th in total recovered

California

* 13th for Tests performed per million pop
* 21st for total cases per million pop
* 1st in Total cases
* 28th in total deaths per million pop
* 2nd in active cases
* 3rd in total recovered

Please explain to me - how Florida and DeSanttis had such an amazing strategy (other than denial) and how it is so much better than the GOP's favorite villain - California?

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Keep making up your own, imaginary rules. I know reading isn't your strong suit...

"If you have been suspended for anything besides bumping since this thread was created, you may not post in this thread. If you ignore this warning, your account will be suspended until 2021. Thank you."

I was inquiring to the nature of the suspensions because of how unusually short they were. Were they revoked or cancelled? Again, I have no idea why they were suspended. I missed the whole thing.

Anyway, take it easy, motes. I was trying to get you two Trump voters back.
Considering the ideological ratio of the booted, and how regularly things go south for remaining Trump backers these days, you (well, not actually you, but those capable of arguing for Trump) need all the help you can get.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

Florida

* 25th for Tests performed per million pop
* 2nd for total cases per million pop
* 3rd in Total cases
* 15th in total deaths per million pop
* 1st in active cases

California

* 13th for Tests performed per million pop
* 21st for total cases per million pop
* 1st in Total cases
* 28th in total deaths per million pop
* 2nd in active cases

Please explain to me - how Florida and DeSanttis had such an amazing strategy (other than denial) and how it is so much better than the GOP's favorite villain - California?

For starters; people are leaving California in droves. Already 400,000 fewer able bodied workers live there vs. last year.

Not to mention the 2nd highest unemployment rate in the country. California's policies are crushing itself.

[TheFrenzy]

Bengals’ Alexander arrested for battery - ESPN

I do wish the police would have turned a blind eye in this case...

If some guy took my 65-year old father out to the middle of nowhere to pick berries and then supposedly just “left” him there and now the authorities can’t find him—I’d probably do the same or worse.

I hope they find the father and we’re not watching a future Netflix crime documentary play out.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by jdandns

The "other side" to this is Black Lives Don't Matter.
What should the NBA do?
Allow Klan rallies at halftime?
Paint the Confederate flag on the court?

So if you don’t agree with the Black Lives Matter platform in its entirety the you are labeling that person a racist, klansman/woman?

Is that the hill you’d like to die on JD?

You boil my entire post to one phrase that you incorrectly quote back to me me. Every issue has multiple sides, especially one as nuanced as this. You’re aren’t that obtuse, are you?

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

For starters; people are leaving California in droves. Already 400,000 fewer able bodied workers live there vs. last year.

Not to mention the 2nd highest unemployment rate in the country. California's policies are crushing itself.

400,000 less workers from last year to now (I see that) but to assume that is directly tied to the covid response by the Governor is an assumption not based in the data you provided.

As for the 2nd highest unemployment rate - I can see that - due to California having the largest population and the industry that is primarily out there.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

So if you don’t agree with the Black Lives Matter platform in its entirety the you are labeling that person a racist, klansman/woman?

Is that the hill you’d like to die on JD?

You boil my entire post to one phrase that you incorrectly quote back to me me. Every issue has multiple sides, especially one as nuanced as this. You’re aren’t that obtuse, are you?

Too long, did not read.

Work now.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I was inquiring to the nature of the suspensions because of how unusually short they were. Were they revoked or cancelled? Again, I have no idea why they were suspended. I missed the whole thing.

Anyway, take it easy, motes. I was trying to get you two Trump voters back.
Considering the ideological ratio of the booted, and how regularly things go south for remaining Trump backers these days, you (well, not actually you, but those capable of arguing for Trump) need all the help you can get.

Nailed it as usual.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I was inquiring to the nature of the suspensions because of how unusually short they were. Were they revoked or cancelled? Again, I have no idea why they were suspended. I missed the whole thing.

Anyway, take it easy, motes. I was trying to get you two Trump voters back.
Considering the ideological ratio of the booted, and how regularly things go south for remaining Trump backers these days, you (well, not actually you, but those capable of arguing for Trump) need all the help you can get.

You were questioning the mods decisions, good tactic.

And thankfully everyone in here still gets to vote(no matter how badly you want them not to )

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

400,000 less workers from last year to now (I see that) but to assume that is directly tied to the covid response by the Governor is an assumption not based in the data you provided.

As for the 2nd highest unemployment rate - I can see that - due to California having the largest population and the industry that is primarily out there.

California had lost an average of 125-150,000 people per year for the last five years pre-2020. Perhaps you can surmise another reason why that figure has tripled this year. I think it's quite obvious.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/database...236910698.html

As for the percentage of unemployment; the entertainment industry is a pin prick in the overall picture. The lockdowns and closures of business, as well as the ability of mayors to turn off utilities for companies who try to open their businesses is quite the reason to leave (not to mention the rest of it).

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Too long, did not read.

Work now.

running back to your safe space as expected.

[techtre2003]

Is anyone here in the direct path of hurricane Laura?

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

California had lost an average of 125-150,000 people per year for the last five years pre-2020. Perhaps you can surmise another reason why that figure has tripled this year. I think it's quite obvious.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/database...236910698.html

As for the percentage of unemployment; the entertainment industry is a pin prick in the overall picture. The lockdowns and closures of business, as well as the ability of mayors to turn off utilities for companies who try to open their businesses is quite the reason to leave (not to mention the rest of it).

Come on - just admit the reason you think California is so bad (numbers for COVID are much better than Florida - see my post above) and Florida is SO good - is based PURELY on the political affiliation of the Governor's and nothing else.

[thenwhatjk]

Anyone know this guy’s blowout screen name?

https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/26/kenos...BOvdzZ3JP-Axqg

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Too long, did not read.

Work now.

You have time to make dumb posts.

No time to read good ones.

Maybe next time just don’t reply.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

You have time to make dumb posts.

No time to read good ones.

Maybe next time just don’t reply.

Its amazing he still comes back in here day after day.