2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by Dielon

It is hard to have this discussion when one side will not admit the cultural issues within a community that are in part to blame.

This is the issue. The saying goes snitches get stitches. This is a code people live by. It is truely insane.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I just want IronMonkey back. Actually, for this specific thread, give me Joan, nothing triggers boomers harder than a left leaning woman (or poster with a woman's name).

That is the second time today that name has been uttered in here. Is this a conjuring?
I hope not!

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by rman112

Before the Bucks thread gets nuked, I need to save this one for personal keeping.

Originally Posted by pokemaniac:

You are the person at work with Joe Biden bumper stickers on your car who asks everyone if they're registered to vote.

Take this social justice discussion elsewhere, there's a reason these threads continuously get closed here.

I was just about to bring that post here to Lol at someone claiming “You’re the dude with the Biden bumper sticker”

[ballhawkdawk]

Just told my boss I will no longer be working until bad things that are out of his control stop happening. We’ll see how this goes.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I was just about to bring that post here to Lol at someone claiming “You’re the dude with the Biden bumper sticker”

This takes those Jopeal assumptions about you (everyone..) and blows them out of the damn water.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I just want IronMonkey back. Actually, for this specific thread, give me Joan, nothing triggers boomers harder than a left leaning woman (or poster with a woman's name).

Rman bullied the last woman out of this thread pretty quickly.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Rman bullied the last woman out of this thread pretty quickly.

I'm just trying to run the Political Thread like it's Nazi Germany, with a side of Lysol.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

All the other crap that has overshadowed the real issues notwithstanding, this is a real problem.

A black person who was not an immediate threat was shot 7 times in the back, while a white kid with an AR-15 who just killed two people doesn't even get arrested at the scene despite walking toward the cops.

Let's not forget Dylann Roof being treated to Burger King after murdering 9 Black people in a church.

Anyone who believes that there are not two different sets of rules at play are in serious denial.

I don't believe there are different rules. As someone who has been in gun fights in Iraq. Which these cops were not. You are very aware of what is going on and things move slow and with proper training your actions just flow. Insane he was not snatched up.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

I don't believe there are different rules. As someone who has been in gun fights in Iraq. Which these cops were not. You are very aware of what is going on and things move slow and with proper training your actions just flow. Insane he was not snatched up.

As someone that has done something most of us (thankfully) will never do, what is your opinion regarding the problem?

How was it seemingly so easy for police to shoot someone in the back? Did they panic?

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by rman112

This takes those Jopeal assumptions about you (everyone..) and blows them out of the damn water.

I’m not sure. I have a graduate degree and he called me a conspiracy theorist tradesman.

Plus Jojo gets the edge by claiming his superior psychology skills and then...

[marl1220]

The snow and cold weather of winter can't come soon enough.

[Mac302]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

All the other crap that has overshadowed the real issues notwithstanding, this is a real problem.

A black person who was not an immediate threat was shot 7 times in the back, while a white kid with an AR-15 who just killed two people doesn't even get arrested at the scene despite walking toward the cops.

Let's not forget Dylann Roof being treated to Burger King after murdering 9 Black people in a church.

Anyone who believes that there are not two different sets of rules at play are in serious denial.

I saw about 6 videos of the incident....there is no way in hell the police knew what had happened yet OR even who that person was walking up the street with a rifle.....there were plenty of people walking around with rifles last night



Watch the videos

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I’m not sure. I have a graduate degree and he called me a conspiracy theorist tradesman.

Plus Jojo gets the edge by claiming his superior psychology skills and then...

You are a conspiracy theorist.
Sorry for neglecting your degree in physical education.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

As someone that has done something most of us (thankfully) will never do, what is your opinion regarding the problem?

How was it seemingly so easy for police to shoot someone in the back? Did they panic?

Panic? I think so. They seem someone reaching for something, what do they do? Wait? We've seen that ending play out.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

As someone that has done something most of us (thankfully) will never do, what is your opinion regarding the problem?

How was it seemingly so easy for police to shoot someone in the back? Did they panic?

I don't think they panicked, they made a judgement call based on information we do not know yet. There is not enough information out to make a judgement if it ws justified of not. Did he have a knife? Did he say he was going to retrieve a gun? Was he tasered and didn't affect him? Did cops know he was a violent criminal with a warrant? All this matters when you pull that trigger. All this is rumors at this point. People should wait for all facts to come out. Instead they decide to destroy peoples lively hoods.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

You are a conspiracy theorist.
Sorry for neglecting your degree in physical education.

Which conspiracies have I touted on here?

Another swing and miss - and I even stated my professional title before.

It’s pathetic at this point.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Which conspiracies have I touted on here?

Another swing and miss - and I even stated my professional title before.

It’s pathetic at this point.

That the U.S was going to crumble in on itself as per prophecy.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Panic? I think so. They seem someone reaching for something, what do they do? Wait? We've seen that ending play out.

When you run the simulation 10's of thousands of times (if not hundreds of thousands) with all kinds of police officers, all kinds of suspects ... it's amazing (to me at least) the total number of unarmed people shot dead last year was under 40. Always much lower than the number of cops killed BTW.

I appreciate trying to stop those "under 40" deaths from happening but I won't begin to know how. That said, to make it specifically a racial issue, as if all of these people that died were black, or even most of them ... it's again why we are where we are. Too many people have no idea what is really happening.

And too many people do and prey on those that do not for personal gain.

[Bulls90s]

The guy that got shot in Wisconsin is a rapist. He tried to get away b/c his arse was going to prison! Im glad he didnt take off in his vehicle. Maybe he would've killed an innocent person that day.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

I don't think they panicked, they made a judgement call based on information we do not know yet. There is not enough information out to make a judgement if it ws justified of not. Did he have a knife? Did he say he was going to retrieve a gun? Was he tasered and didn't affect him? Did cops know he was a violent criminal with a warrant? All this matters when you pull that trigger. All this is rumors at this point. People should wait for all facts to come out. Instead they decide to destroy peoples lively hoods.

The problem, and question, that I have is this: when is it ever appropriate for police to shoot a person in the back? Unless they know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the person is a threat, I don't believe it is ever appropriate.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

That the U.S was going to crumble in on itself as per prophecy.

You’re conflating a couple things and mislabeling others.

Give the actual conspiracy.

I’ve stated that it’s easy to see that violence will continue and unless you believe in Unicorns that this is not going to have a pretty end.

I’ve also stated that I believe the United States is going to cease to exist as it currently is in probably 5-10 years. There are all great historical basis for any of those statements as countries have changed radically under similar circumstances, even here not 160 years ago.

The third was a reference for you to dig deeper into what some of the indigenous people on this nation have believed and prophesied - many of those things that have already come about. Some incredibly pertinent to what is going on now.

No conspiracies Jojo, but you have to try and twist and denigrate everything I say, which is why you continue to call me a Phys Ed teacher over and over, you can’t rationalize the fact that I attained higher education that you.

It’s mind bottling.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

The problem, and question, that I have is this: when is it ever appropriate for police to shoot a person in the back? Unless they know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the person is a threat, I don't believe it is ever appropriate.

IDK. If this plays out in a way where after I've been wrestled down to the ground by a suspect (who has a warrant out for domestic violence and weapons charges) who then runs to his car where his three children are in the back seat, am I supposed to just let him get in the car and drive away?

Or get in the car and grab a gun?

Or get in the car and X?

Aren't they all bad options? Do police officers have a right to protect the children in the car from this man? Don't they?

IDK. All hypothetical of course but if you're asking me would I risk my life on the idea that he's not going to get a gun; the answer is no, I would not.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

The problem, and question, that I have is this: when is it ever appropriate for police to shoot a person in the back? Unless they know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the person is a threat, I don't believe it is ever appropriate.

If he had a knife and refused to follow orders that is enough imo.

[MIRRABB]

Originally Posted by Bulls90s

The guy that got shot in Wisconsin is a rapist. He tried to get away b/c his arse was going to prison! Im glad he didnt take off in his vehicle. Maybe he would've killed an innocent person that day.

Hell yeah! Tear up the constitution.

Due process. The constitution.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

but you have to try and twist and denigrate everything I say