Blowout Cards Forums
AD Heritage

Go Back   Blowout Cards Forums > BLOWOUTS HOBBY TALK > BASEBALL

Notices

BASEBALL Post your Baseball Cards Hobby Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-27-2020, 06:38 PM   #26
rman112
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Freedom is Free Again
Posts: 40,946
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boston12 View Post
It’s Olbermann and also the only acceptable way of thinking in 2020
NSFW.. Well, kind of?

rman112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 06:40 PM   #27
Giannis34fan
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,247
Default

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/s...332820480?s=20
Giannis34fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 06:41 PM   #28
ottobord
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 1,830
Default

Are the facts about what actually happened in the shooting considered when these decisions are made?
ottobord is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 06:42 PM   #29
bubba300
Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Baseball heaven
Posts: 1,290
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jstephens24 View Post
how the heck is that racist?
When I saw that tweet I thought it was an extremely strong statement. I get that people and players do not like Manfred but I was shocked it was said by Olbermann. I am a mixed minority and my views on Manfreds statement doesnt sit well with me because the players made a unilateral decision to sit out to make a statement that enough is enough.

If the players are not wanting to play to draw attention for the cause of social injustice Mandfred might want to listen to the players...

David Price let it rip earlier as well towards some fellow MLB players..

JR Smith of the Lakers prob said it best imo....oh you dont hear us...well now you cant see us!!!
bubba300 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 06:54 PM   #30
JWBlue
Member
 
JWBlue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 10,251
Default

It was a silly idea but racist? I dunno.

The whole league should take a day off (even though they can't really afford to) and then come back. That would be a stronger statement than some teams doing it one day and them some another. It is a mess.
JWBlue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 06:56 PM   #31
rman112
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Freedom is Free Again
Posts: 40,946
Default

I know there are pitchers that are pissed their routines are messed up. Players that want to, you know.. play. But who's going to speak up?
rman112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:00 PM   #32
MoreToppsPlease
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 8,676
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by speedyjg13 View Post
Will a new commissioner bring younger people to baseball which would hopefully trickle down to the hobby?

Most of the hobby doesn’t want younger people because the don’t want kids in their business.
__________________
IRS Tax Tip 2022-57
A hobby is any activity that a person pursues because they enjoy it and with no intention of making a profit. People operate a business with the intention of making a profit.
MoreToppsPlease is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:03 PM   #33
Technochocolate
Member
 
Technochocolate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: IL
Posts: 3,717
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JWBlue View Post
It was a silly idea but racist? I dunno.

The whole league should take a day off (even though they can't really afford to) and then come back. That would be a stronger statement than some teams doing it one day and them some another. It is a mess.
Not all 30 teams were on the schedule today, so I *think* they should try and wait for tomorrow to do that. It's more powerful with all 30 teams than just 22 of the teams.

Also, several doubleheaders on the schedule today. It looks like all the teams with doubleheaders are playing while the single games are being cancelled. Practicality might be a factor here.
Technochocolate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:13 PM   #34
Archangel1775
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cali baby!
Posts: 22,060
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Technochocolate View Post
Damn, my prediction was off by a day.


https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...0&postcount=12
ROFL, I read that and actually had a feeling you would be right. I'm still trying to figure out what's going on but based on the comments, it's not good.
__________________
There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.
Archangel1775 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:26 PM   #35
NeedChapmans
Member
 
NeedChapmans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 31,800
Default

Sorry people. Brodie backtracked and said the comments were not Manfred, but Wilpons.

He made the whole thing up for the camera. METS!
__________________
It is my legal right to freely profit from the notoriety of people who are actively suffering and possibly even dying and for a few hundred dollars I will gladly seek to maximize those profits.
NeedChapmans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:30 PM   #36
WaxPax
Member
 
WaxPax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: The Land of always Baseball...Sunny Florida
Posts: 646
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedChapmans View Post
Sorry people. Brodie backtracked and said the comments were not Manfred, but Wilpons.

He made the whole thing up for the camera. METS!
No doubt Jeff W. Being the fall guy for Manfred and MLB to save face...Wilpons have one foot out the door with team being sold, so why not make him take the blame since his guy Brody opened this can of worms...

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
WaxPax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:33 PM   #37
sdsportscards
Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ottobord View Post
Are the facts about what actually happened in the shooting considered when these decisions are made?
Stop.
sdsportscards is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:35 PM   #38
adamwanaselja
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 269
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sdsportscards View Post
Stop.
Seconded.
adamwanaselja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:54 PM   #39
Eckstein197
Member
 
Eckstein197's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 14,797
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ottobord View Post
Are the facts about what actually happened in the shooting considered when these decisions are made?
This is a conversation about the Mets/Manfred/this whole situation.

If you’re going to talk about that situation, please go to off topic/the politics thread.

I’d prefer if this thread was just about Manfred and this whole situation and it doesn’t turn into a screaming match between 2 sides and it gets locked
__________________
Favorite teams: TB Bucs, MIN Twins, DET Red Wings
PC's: Kyle Snyder, Alstott, Tristan Wirfs, Hasek, Moritz Seider, OL/K/P/FB Contenders Autos, Red Wings Young Guns, Vintage Pokémon, NCAA Bowl Patches
Eckstein197 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 07:57 PM   #40
base set
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: NW Michigan
Posts: 9,610
Default

I was thinking MLB might ask the players to coordinate a more League wide response tomorrow, 8-28, which has become Jackie Robinson day with the uniform # tribute for this year. But the team-by-team decisions probably came together too organically for that.
base set is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:01 PM   #41
Hollywood42
Member
 
Hollywood42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 39,562
Default

So who believes this was all just a big oopsie?
__________________
Collecting the Twins
All my PC wants/haves available at hollywood42cards.com
Hollywood42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:02 PM   #42
majestik101
Inactive Account
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Socially Distanced
Posts: 45,526
Default

Fake News. But that's where we are in this woke-let's all- jump-to-conclusions-first-without-evidence society
majestik101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:04 PM   #43
ottobord
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 1,830
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eckstein197 View Post
This is a conversation about the Mets/Manfred/this whole situation.

If you’re going to talk about that situation, please go to off topic/the politics thread.

I’d prefer if this thread was just about Manfred and this whole situation and it doesn’t turn into a screaming match between 2 sides and it gets locked
It was a rhetorical question, carry on.
ottobord is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:06 PM   #44
Prox3
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 566
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by majestik101 View Post
Fake News. But that's where we are in this woke-let's all- jump-to-conclusions-first-without-evidence society
That’s the danger with the fake news media these days. Facts don’t matter as long as it fits your agenda. Apparently some folks had their agenda fit with this one.
Prox3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:10 PM   #45
13goyankees13
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,521
Default

The standard MLB player contract allows teams to terminate the contract if the player shall "fail, refuse, or neglect to render his services". I wonder if this opens up the door for teams to terminate bad contracts for players who refused to play. If it was across the league they could say they didn't really have a choice but with some games happening and none of the Mets or Marlins players making any attempt to stay on the field, it seems like refusal to play and a breach of contract.

I doubt it will happen because it will be a PR nightmare, but it's another thing that could complicate the next CBA. One of the main benefits of employers agreeing to a union contract is that the employees aren't supposed to refuse to work while under contract and a good portion of the league is refusing to play.
__________________
Currently collecting TTM/IP autos and Minnesota Golden Gophers alumni of all sports.
13goyankees13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:17 PM   #46
gmarutiak
Member
 
gmarutiak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Baltimore, MD (but Pittsburgh in my heart!)
Posts: 3,147
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by majestik101 View Post
Fake News. But that's where we are in this woke-let's all- jump-to-conclusions-first-without-evidence society
The video definitely seemed like evidence to me. Especially when Brodie said that he was talking about "Rob."
gmarutiak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:17 PM   #47
Eckstein197
Member
 
Eckstein197's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 14,797
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by majestik101 View Post
Fake News. But that's where we are in this woke-let's all- jump-to-conclusions-first-without-evidence society
What’s fake news? That this was Manfred’s idea? The video is pretty crucial and is a big piece of evidence. Of course an owner is going to defend the commissioner
__________________
Favorite teams: TB Bucs, MIN Twins, DET Red Wings
PC's: Kyle Snyder, Alstott, Tristan Wirfs, Hasek, Moritz Seider, OL/K/P/FB Contenders Autos, Red Wings Young Guns, Vintage Pokémon, NCAA Bowl Patches
Eckstein197 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:18 PM   #48
sbfinley
Member
 
sbfinley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Nashville, Tn
Posts: 1,327
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 13goyankees13 View Post
The standard MLB player contract allows teams to terminate the contract if the player shall "fail, refuse, or neglect to render his services". I wonder if this opens up the door for teams to terminate bad contracts for players who refused to play. If it was across the league they could say they didn't really have a choice but with some games happening and none of the Mets or Marlins players making any attempt to stay on the field, it seems like refusal to play and a breach of contract.

I doubt it will happen because it will be a PR nightmare, but it's another thing that could complicate the next CBA. One of the main benefits of employers agreeing to a union contract is that the employees aren't supposed to refuse to work while under contract and a good portion of the league is refusing to play.

If anything, this probably the one thing both sides actually agree on. The overall response from everyone within the game from players, management, and media towards these protests have been positive. I’m sure some are biting their tongue, but 99% of all public comments I’ve seen the last two days support the players’ decision.
sbfinley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:27 PM   #49
Wiseguy917
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba300 View Post
When I saw that tweet I thought it was an extremely strong statement. I get that people and players do not like Manfred but I was shocked it was said by Olbermann. I am a mixed minority and my views on Manfreds statement doesnt sit well with me because the players made a unilateral decision to sit out to make a statement that enough is enough.

If the players are not wanting to play to draw attention for the cause of social injustice Mandfred might want to listen to the players...

David Price let it rip earlier as well towards some fellow MLB players..

JR Smith of the Lakers prob said it best imo....oh you dont hear us...well now you cant see us!!!

“Oh you don’t hear us, well now you can’t see us”

I’ll care about what JR smith says when HE can SEE the scoreboard.




He’s a clown!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
PSA is like a 70s Porn Star...They don’t care if it’s trimmed or not.

Being nice is something stupid people do to hedge their bets
Wiseguy917 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2020, 08:31 PM   #50
Prox3
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 566
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sbfinley View Post
If anything, this probably the one thing both sides actually agree on. The overall response from everyone within the game from players, management, and media towards these protests have been positive. I’m sure some are biting their tongue, but 99% of all public comments I’ve seen the last two days support the players’ decision.
This is a lot better than violence, looting, harassment and arson.
Prox3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2019, Blowout Cards Inc.