2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by mike1498

In a utopian world, obviously. But lets be realistic for a minute. Do you think Trump would win if he explicitly said what his plans are for oil? Do you think Biden would win if he explicitly said how much your taxes are going to go up? The job of a politician is to tell us what we want to hear. That's why we need the media to step up its game. I'm not even saying CNN/Fox needs to explicitly show support for X, but advertently providing misinformation puts voters at a disadvantage.

True, but there is a significant difference in bias between say, CNN, and Rush Limbaugh.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by mike1498

In a utopian world, obviously. But lets be realistic for a minute. Do you think Trump would win if he explicitly said what his plans are for oil? Do you think Biden would win if he explicitly said how much your taxes are going to go up? The job of a politician is to tell us what we want to hear. That's why we need the media to step up its game. I'm not even saying CNN/Fox needs to explicitly show support for X, but advertently providing misinformation puts voters at a disadvantage.

I completely disagree with the bolded assertion that politicians role is to tell us what we want to hear.

The Politicians' role is to serve the best interests of the citizens of the country.

Yeah, we absolutely need media to step up their game for the good of the country's future and I'd specifically like to see an elimination of these single-person talking head media programs (i.e. Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Maddow, Lemon etc) and a promotion of 'across the political spectrum' news networks that enabled fair public discourse in the way the various election debates attempt to.

Newspaper companies like the NYT have also grown far too powerful, misleading and divisive to accurately represent the best interests of the country.

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Ahh yes, holding the left to completely different standards.

You know why I call out Trump supporters...because they support a racist. I'm done with this "you just want to disparage a differing opinion" garbage. The fact is if someone supports Trump, they are at least tacitly supporting racism. That deserves to be called out every time.

And I do not want to reach out to that. I don't want to cater to racists. I also want to know why liberals are always the ones that are in charge of reaching out to stop being divisive while at the same times republicans elect people to office that want to curtail rights to minorities, the LGBTQ community, women, and just about every group that is not white men. Why do we have to reach out to a party that elected a man who essentially started his presidential run by leading an openly racist campaign to accuse our first black president of being born in Africa?

I am willing to discuss economic issues and the such, but I am not willing to compromise on social issues.

what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

I completely disagree with the bolded assertion that politicians role is to tell us what we want to hear.

The Politicians' role is to serve the best interests of the citizens of the country.

Yeah, we absolutely need media to step up their game for the good of the country's future and I'd specifically like to see an elimination of these single-person talking head media programs (i.e. Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Maddow, Lemon etc) and a promotion of 'across the political spectrum' news networks that enabled fair public discourse in the way the various election debates attempt to.

Newspaper companies like the NYT have also grown far too powerful, misleading and divisive to accurately represent the best interests of the country.

I agree with you completely. Like I said though, if politicians were completely open, they would never get your vote though. We have a better chance of the media transforming to more fair discourse than we have with politicians being up front with their agenda. Like I said, Biden isn't going to make friends when you find out that your taxes is going to increase. Same with Trump when he tells you that they're going to destroy the ANWR by digging for oil.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by mike1498

I agree with you completely. Like I said though, if politicians were completely open, they would never get your vote though. We have a better chance of the media transforming to more fair discourse than we have with politicians being up front with their agenda. Like I said, Biden isn't going to make friends when you find out that your taxes is going to increase. Same with Trump when he tells you that they're going to destroy the ANWR by digging for oil.

In the short term I see where you're coming from on this, but I still don't know how we go about addressing the issue other than forming new media companies either through our best collective asset: the deregulated internet/social media (Youtube, Podcasting etc), or through more conscientiousness, deep pocketed investors overtaking mainstream news media corporations (less likely).

How do you think the issue is best addressed?

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Ahh yes, holding the left to completely different standards.



You know why I call out Trump supporters...because they support a racist. I'm done with this "you just want to disparage a differing opinion" garbage. The fact is if someone supports Trump, they are at least tacitly supporting racism. That deserves to be called out every time.



And I do not want to reach out to that. I don't want to cater to racists. I also want to know why liberals are always the ones that are in charge of reaching out to stop being divisive while at the same times republicans elect people to office that want to curtail rights to minorities, the LGBTQ community, women, and just about every group that is not white men. Why do we have to reach out to a party that elected a man who essentially started his presidential run by leading an openly racist campaign to accuse our first black president of being born in Africa?



I am willing to discuss economic issues and the such, but I am not willing to compromise on social issues.

Well for the third time in 24 hours I'll post this again.......

Well let's just take a look at a few tidbits from Joe Biden and then tell me how Trump is the racist running for president.....

Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”

“You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” (That’s in reference to President Obama.)

“Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly diverse attitudes about different things.”

“In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

When pressed by Errol Barnett of CBS News on whether he’d taken a cognitive test, Biden responded that the question was akin to asking the Black reporter if he would take a drug test to see if “you’re taking cocaine or not? ... Are you a junkie?”

Joe Biden once called state-mandated school integration “the most racist concept you can come up with"

He was a staunch opponent of “forced busing” in the 1970s, and leading crusader for mass incarceration throughout the ‘80s and ‘90s.

Uncle Joe has described African-American felons as “predators” too sociopathic to rehabilitate — and white supremacist senators as his friends.

If you need anymore proof who the real racist is in this presidential election I can provide plenty more examples. All of this info is out there and very easy to find. Of course one would have to take off their TDS blinders first.

So, either I've been put on ignore by a few of you, or you're just flat out ignoring something because you have no rebuttal.

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[Astros19]

Originally Posted by kerg

Awesome sauce.

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[preakness]

Wanda Sykes is not funny

AOC is hot
Kayleigh M is too

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by preakness

Wanda Sykes is not funny

AOC is hot
Kayleigh M is too

If AOC would just permanently wear a gag she'd be exponentially hotter

[Astros19]

Surely to be dismissed by many since it's Breitbart, but it would be nice to have some of these questions answered.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elect...in-the-debate/

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[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

For what? Saying that if Trump dies I won't feel bad. Should I have felt bad in Germany in 1933 if Hitler would have gotten sick and I wouldn't have been unhappy if he died? Didn't people celebrate when Osama Bin Laden died, after all he was a living person with a family?

Trump is literally Hitler!

The unhinging continues.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Is Trump a decent human being? Does he, the leader of the free world, get held to the same standard when he slanders the parents of a veteran that died in service to this country, for example? Does he get held to that standard as 200K plus Americans die of a virus he constantly says is a hoax?

Why is it that folks like to call out those that oppose Trump but never seem to hold him to the same standards?

Donald Trump isn’t in the room. The constant redirection of your own character flaws on to Trump isn’t doing you any favors. Really, nothing you’ve posted has done you any favors.

[Boo]

Heelie
Hootie
Hairy

Bad day if your name started with an H. Can we move to J now?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Boo

Heelie
Hootie
Hairy

Bad day if your name started with an H. Can we move to J now?

Ohhh wow, Hairy's gone too?

Yowsers. War of attrition until the end of this election.

[oldgoldy97]

What I learned today: if you get banned from this thread and from Facebook for extreme political leanings you might actually be an extremist.

#freeTH
#deleteSWT

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by salthill

Nope again. Johnson had his bump four days before announcing he had covid. You’re just a little fountain of errors today aren’t you?

No. Boris Johnson's approval rating was 46% on March 16th. On April 13th, the day after he was released from the hospital, his approval rating was 66%.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...pproval-rating

He sucks again, and it did not last, but you can see what this can do; temporarily. He was +4 overall pre-covid to + 40! post-covid.

[oldgoldy97]

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

You comrades are falling. maybe I'll put them in my sig...

[oldgoldy97]

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

What I learned today: if you get banned from this thread and from Facebook for extreme political leanings you might actually be an extremist.

#freeTH
#deleteSWT

Ironic, as trump is the definition of extremist.

[oldgoldy97]

What happens if a candidate dies during the election? Do the votes go to the running mate?

With both these clowns pushing 80 you never know.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

What happens if a candidate dies during the election? Do the votes go to the running mate?

With both these clowns pushing 80 you never know.

Yes, the ticket is Trump/Pence so Pence still on the ticket.

(And didn't you tell me something about oversized images.)

[DegaBama]

I'm still from the Midwest, I moved to Alabama for work. I'm at Talladega for work as I slowly get back into the swing of things in my career, after months of being furloughed and all the stress that goes with it.

[Locoduck]

Originally Posted by cnewby

You comrades are falling. maybe I'll put them in my sig...

Still winning the internets I see

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Quotes please? I am pretty sure any democratic plan includes much more robust stimulus to individuals and small businesses.



But hey, the important thing is a billionaire like Donald Trump pays 750 dollars a year in income taxes, or none at all! THe important thing is that taxes on the richest 1-2% are slashed. The important thing is that the corporate tax is slashed by 25%.



You say where does the money come from, and it is very clear where it should come from. Our greatest economies, in the 50's and 60's also had the highest taxes on the rich as well, and it encouraged more money to be funnelled to the middle class.



I'm not advocating a top tax bracket of 91%, but I am certainly saying it should be significantly higher than 37%.

If you want to pay 40-50% of your hard earned money to the government so that lazy people can live better move to europe. The rest of us will gladly stay here in the USA where you don't get penalized for being a motivated entrepreneur and achieving the American dream. By the way how is Europe doing through this whole Covid thing? No deaths or economic problems because of their great leadership? I heard they were shutting down again due to spikes in covid cases and deaths. Apperantly those billions of extra dollars in taxes didn't save everyone??

Also comparing Trump to a guy who tortured and murdered millions of people is a great look for you. That kind of rhetoric from the far left will sure help bring this country together.

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