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Old 10-03-2020, 08:02 AM   #26
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:10 AM   #27
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I think ratings are down across the board for sports right now no? at least hockey and basketball from the stats I saw, hockey even more than basketball. Not sure about football ratings atm. I think the shift of season due to corona may have played a role in hockey/bball viewership. Plus going head to head against football hurts.

I still don't really get the Lebron hate. Is he flawless? of course not. But he's an all-timer, I'm enjoying watching him while I can because this is the last part of his career.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:11 AM   #28
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Two months ago most were screaming this “bubble” would not succeed. Myself included. This could by Detroit vs. Minnesota and it’s still better than what we had a short time ago.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:12 AM   #29
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2 of the 3 best players on the heat were out yesterday and they were in it the whole game. I expect a big performance tomorrow but ultimately I think the Lakers win in 5. LeBron and AD are just too much for the Heat to contain.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:16 AM   #30
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Two months ago most were screaming this “bubble” would not succeed. Myself included. This could by Detroit vs. Minnesota and it’s still better than what we had a short time ago.
Oh yeah, same I was skeptical on all the sports restarts including the bubble. Pleasantly surprised the bubble worked out, stoked we get a finish to the NBA season and a champion, even if the whole endeavor had to be thoroughly improvised.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:17 AM   #31
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I think the league using its platform to push BLM agenda (not the actual cause but the organization itself) has also soured a lot of it’s fans. The bubble experience is also flat, obviously missing the energy of a massive crowd etc. it just doesn’t give viewers a great experience.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:23 AM   #32
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I think the league using its platform to push BLM agenda (not the actual cause but the organization itself) has also soured a lot of it’s fans. The bubble experience is also flat, obviously missing the energy of a massive crowd etc. it just doesn’t give viewers a great experience.
It's a shame that the political stuff soured quite a few fans. Personally I have no problems with it but I can see how it would sour fans who aren't down with that agenda. NBA fanbase is a bit younger and leans a bit more left on average than some of the other sports leagues but when you speak out (whether it's on China, US politics, etc) you risk losing fans and ----> $$$. Lebron's China stance was clearly influenced by the money calculus on that issue, he stands to lose a lot with the loss of the China connect.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:28 AM   #33
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I think the league using its platform to push BLM agenda (not the actual cause but the organization itself) has also soured a lot of it’s fans. The bubble experience is also flat, obviously missing the energy of a massive crowd etc. it just doesn’t give viewers a great experience.
I think the lack of a crowd is honestly what’s turned me off the most, as odd as that seems. The energy just isn’t there. Then endless politics isn’t helping either.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:44 AM   #34
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I’m loving it!!! Maybe the hardest finals run in history. Facing an 8th seed blazers that were really like a 4th seed, playing a dynasty quality team in the rockets with 2 all time HOFers, handling the joker juggernaut that just broke the heart of the west favorite clippers and Murray who averaged 50 points a game in the playoffs, and finally the the heat that beat the reigning two time mvp easily and stood up to a talent heavy Celtics team. Meanwhile having to deal with bubble life. This may be the greatest title of all time. Lakers have ran the gauntlet.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:48 AM   #35
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I’m loving it!!! Maybe the hardest finals run in history. Facing an 8th seed blazers that were really like a 4th seed, playing a dynasty quality team in the rockets with 2 all time HOFers, handling the joker juggernaut that just broke the heart of the west favorite clippers and Murray who averaged 50 points a game in the playoffs, and finally the the heat that beat the reigning two time mvp easily and stood up to a talent heavy Celtics team. Meanwhile having to deal with bubble life. This may be the greatest title of all time. Lakers have ran the gauntlet.
This is as delusional of a take as they come.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:51 AM   #36
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Spurs/Nets early 2000's... all time bottom for the Finals
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Spurs/Nets early 2000's... all time bottom for the Finals
Yeah, even if the competitiveness of this series is weak, coupled with lack of crowd/bubble issues, it still features two very strong brands in Lebron and Lakers. But as things stand, the Finals so far have been extremely underwhelming compared to the rest of these playoffs which I think have been quite phenomenal overall.
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Old 10-03-2020, 08:57 AM   #38
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Spurs/Nets early 2000's... all time bottom for the Finals
Game 1 was the lowest in Finals history. 7.41 million viewers. Previous low was 8.06 viewers in game 3 of the 2007 Finals.
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I’m loving it!!! Maybe the hardest finals run in history. Facing an 8th seed blazers that were really like a 4th seed, playing a dynasty quality team in the rockets with 2 all time HOFers, handling the joker juggernaut that just broke the heart of the west favorite clippers and Murray who averaged 50 points a game in the playoffs, and finally the the heat that beat the reigning two time mvp easily and stood up to a talent heavy Celtics team. Meanwhile having to deal with bubble life. This may be the greatest title of all time. Lakers have ran the gauntlet.
I know you don’t care about the Lakers and trying to boost Lebron’s legacy. If you believe this is true you’re delusional. It’s not a Lebrons fault that he hasn’t faced a challenging postseason, but it’s still the truth.
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Old 10-03-2020, 09:20 AM   #40
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People want to say the low viewership in the finals is because LeBron and the political movement. I beg to differ. Had the Celts or Bucks been in the Finals with the Lakers, it would have been watched by a significantly larger crowd. The lack of viewers has more to do with the Heat being the opponent and the seemingly forgone conclusion that the series is over that makes people tune away.
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Old 10-03-2020, 09:29 AM   #41
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I don't.

All his Finals runs and super teaming to do it is ridiculous. He's ran through 3 different franchises and at least 5 big name teammates to do it. But the funny thing is, he's still lost more than he's won. He's kind of an asterisk to me.

I will give him props for longevity and his numbers piling up because of it, but that's about it. His level of play this far into his career is pretty amazing.
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Old 10-03-2020, 09:36 AM   #42
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Ratings will say it's the least interesting ever. Injuries don't help, but this series was doomed to begin with. Football is back. Baseball playoffs are here. Miami isn't a great market. A lot of people don't care for LeBron. And I think there's a real degree of fatigue.
Agree.

Disdain for LeBron isn't necessarily bad. People will tune in to root against whomever they can't stand. Must have a remotely compelling opponent though.
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Old 10-03-2020, 09:40 AM   #43
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He is the most liked player, as well as the most disliked player.
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Game 1 was the lowest in Finals history. 7.41 million viewers. Previous low was 8.06 viewers in game 3 of the 2007 Finals.
I was talking about Spurs/Nets just being plain out boring
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The ratings tell you everything you need to know. Football is back, Baseball Playoffs, Schools have been back in session, Politics (both an election year and NBA's political push), etc. There is real basketball fatigue right now. They've been at the top of the news cycle for a full 12 months at this point.

...and YES a lot of people don't care for Lebron.
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He is the most liked player, as well as the most disliked player.
Very true... people that dislike him will put a nice big * on this title
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Yeah, the Lakers being spared the Clippers and then playing a depleted Heat team in the Finals is not running the gauntlet. Might be the worst take I've ever read on here. The hardest run in finals history? Are you joking?

I personally really enjoyed the playoffs but I'm still really disappointed that we didn't get a Lakers Clippers west finals. LeBron knows he dodged a bullet there. And I like LeBron. I like a lot of Lakers players so this isn't a knock on LA. But facing the Nuggets instead of the Clippers in the west finals was absolutely the best case scenario for a Lakers title this year. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

All of that being said, I'll be happy to see LeBron, AD, Danny Green, Dwight, etc win it this year, even if they didn't face the stiffest competition. You can only play the opponent in front of you.
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Agree.

Disdain for LeBron isn't necessarily bad. People will tune in to root against whomever they can't stand. Must have a remotely compelling opponent though.
I couldn't disagree any more. I will not watch NBA. If there is nothing on TV I will go to bed before I give one $.01 cent in ratings to Silver, nike, or the NBA. I hope this changes but i can't see it happening anytime soon. People like James, Popovich, Silver ha e ruined the game.

I think Silver may be more loathed than Goodell.
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James & Popovich may very well be the pinnacle of hypocrisy. People don't want to watch that.
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I think the lack of a crowd is honestly what’s turned me off the most, as odd as that seems. The energy just isn’t there. Then endless politics isn’t helping either.
dude its like you're inside my head.
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