**Official Luka Doncic Thread**

[Sirwin30]

Can we talk about this?? I would assume it devalues the card?


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[jmcca170]

Lol yea I saw that too.. not sure what other ink color he could have gone with..anything but black


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[gmoney000]

Originally Posted by Sirwin30

Can we talk about this?? I would assume it devalues the card?


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NEVER do this

[Sirwin30]

Not a bad deal if you can wipe it off


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[77maddog]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

You may have missed the point? If I had 60 extra graded unnumbered Lukas I definitely would have been unloading in July and August. Hoops for example was $650 at the peak and are now sub $300. Phoenix meanwhile has gone up. Honestly your take is confusing. I have one PSA 10 each left of Prizm Silver & Bass, Optic Holo & Bass, that I’m upset at myself for not “shorting”. Had I just sold when my instincts told me they were overpriced and bought back now, I would be thousands of dollars richer.

What I mean is if I bought 60 Hoops rookies last month and graded conservatively Id have a ebay value of around 12K. If I used that same bucket of money last month and bought one Phoenix Id have a ebay value of of 6K. I’m not defending only base as I have several base and some high end as well. Im simply bullish on both. I’m betting that all Luka’s including base rookies have yet to see anywhere close to their peak long term. I realize their are a lot of anti base folks in these forums. I do agree with the anti-base crowd that during the bubble peak there where better ways to invest 2K than on a base 280. However folks that bought pre Dec especially will not be disappointed holding base or high end long term IMO. I still have pre Dec Luka Rookies at PSA. Have around a thousand graded Luka Rookies all together. I did sell some during the bubble and will sell a handful next season, but holding the majority long term.


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[TSonn]

Originally Posted by 77maddog

What I mean is if I bought 60 Hoops rookies last month and graded conservatively Id have a ebay value of around 12K. If I used that same bucket of money last month and bought one Phoenix Id have a ebay value of of 6K. I’m not defending only base as I have several base and some high end as well. Im simply bullish on both. I’m betting that all Luka’s including base rookies have yet to see anywhere close to their peak long term. I realize their are a lot of anti base folks in these forums. I do agree with the anti-base crowd that during the bubble peak there where better ways to invest 2K than on a base 280. However folks that bought pre Dec especially will not be disappointed holding base or high end long term IMO. I still have pre Dec Luka Rookies at PSA. Have around a thousand graded Luka Rookies all together. I did sell some during the bubble and will sell a handful next season, but holding the majority long term.


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You would've also had to time the market perfectly to get that return on the base while you can almost set your own market for whenever you want to sell the Phoenix as long as there aren't others available on ebay.

[77maddog]

Originally Posted by TSonn

You would've also had to time the market perfectly to get that return on the base while you can almost set your own market for whenever you want to sell the Phoenix as long as there aren't others available on ebay.

True thats a good point.


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[bennycards]

Originally Posted by Sirwin30

Can we talk about this?? I would assume it devalues the card?


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I saw this too tonight. Fake or real that is a terrible way to ruin the card.

[shondamon]

Here’s the auto I received from his store


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[BRob1]

Originally Posted by shondamon

Here’s the auto I received from his store


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Wow...


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[beavers]

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[frankiecgsw]

Originally Posted by shondamon

Here’s the auto I received from his store


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Here’s the one I received.




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[BRob1]

Originally Posted by frankiecgsw

Here’s the one I received.




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I find these a really interesting data point in the lulu discussion.


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[davemri]

Cant go wrong with a silver sharpie!

[Ra3]

Originally Posted by GoNYGoNYGo

Yeah the bubbling is very common and psa determined it does not effect the surface grade at all - in fact finding one that doesn’t have those bubbles is very hard and IMO should hold a premium but it doesn’t seem to because people buy the grade not the card - if that’s the only defect send that baby in!

For reference here is my silver 10 you can see the bubbling in between the RC logo and the ball




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Hi - I have a prizm card that I believe has the bubbling effect that the posts above are referring to, but I can’t quite tell from the picture above whether it’s the same thing. Does anyone on the board have a better or clearer picture of the type of bubbling/ripple effect on a prizm card? And does it actually seem to be the case that psa doesn’t deduct from the grade even if a card has the rippling effect on the surface? Anyone have experience with this?

[jmcca170]

Originally Posted by davemri

Cant go wrong with a silver sharpie!

Looks way better lol. I’d love to have him sign a prizm for me. No idea how to get it done tho


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[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Ra3

Hi - I have a prizm card that I believe has the bubbling effect that the posts above are referring to, but I can’t quite tell from the picture above whether it’s the same thing. Does anyone on the board have a better or clearer picture of the type of bubbling/ripple effect on a prizm card? And does it actually seem to be the case that psa doesn’t deduct from the grade even if a card has the rippling effect on the surface? Anyone have experience with this?

I traded for this silver PSA 9 with a member here about a month ago. Everything about the card looks perfect so I think PSA is including the bubbling with the surface grade now (maybe for pop control). Notice the PSA auth number of mine starts with 48 (recent) and the one from GoNY starts with 42.

[GoNYGoNYGo]

Originally Posted by TSonn

I traded for this silver PSA 9 with a member here about a month ago. Everything about the card looks perfect so I think PSA is including the bubbling with the surface grade now (maybe for pop control). Notice the PSA auth number of mine starts with 48 (recent) and the one from GoNY starts with 42.

Wow - that would be very interesting if they started dinging the surface for those - as of last year it was pretty common and from what I remember they never hit them. If only we had a grading company that actually explained what was wrong with the card haha.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by GoNYGoNYGo

Wow - that would be very interesting if they started dinging the surface for those - as of last year it was pretty common and from what I remember they never hit them. If only we had a grading company that actually explained what was wrong with the card haha.

Haha - do you know if BGS dings for the bubbles? I'm thinking about subbing to BGS to go for the 9.5.

[GoNYGoNYGo]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Haha - do you know if BGS dings for the bubbles? I'm thinking about subbing to BGS to go for the 9.5.

I'm not sure - but I can't imagine them giving it less than a 9 on surface even with the bubbles if they are hitting people for them which would still leave you in the territory of a 9.5.

[Asian62150]

Most/all seem to have some form of bumps/bubbling/waves on that top edge. Has anyone seen a 100% crisp version?

[GoNYGoNYGo]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Most/all seem to have some form of bumps/bubbling/waves on that top edge. Has anyone seen a 100% crisp version?

Off the top of my head I can think of seeing maybe 1 or 2 since they came out last year. I have seen others that don't have the bubbling but are crazy OC or something like that.

[Kuch86]

Originally Posted by TSonn

I traded for this silver PSA 9 with a member here about a month ago. Everything about the card looks perfect so I think PSA is including the bubbling with the surface grade now (maybe for pop control). Notice the PSA auth number of mine starts with 48 (recent) and the one from GoNY starts with 42.

I JUST graded my Luka Prizm silver with the standard bubbling and it got a GEM 10.

There is likely something else wrong with the card that may be hard to see through the slab. If you think it's clean otherwise then it's a no brainer to re-sub.

[Thirsty Whale]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Haha - do you know if BGS dings for the bubbles? I'm thinking about subbing to BGS to go for the 9.5.

My silver had the exact same effect and I got a 9.5 on the surface, so BGS doesn’t care about it. Also I’m pretty sure PSA doesn’t care about it either, there should be another issue with the card above (or just simply pop control).




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[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Kuch86

I JUST graded my Luka Prizm silver with the standard bubbling and it got a GEM 10.

There is likely something else wrong with the card that may be hard to see through the slab. If you think it's clean otherwise then it's a no brainer to re-sub.

Hey good to know! Only thing I can see besides the bubbles is there's some random speck of debris on the back (upper left) but it's not on the card, looks like PSA just encased it without blowing it off the card. Maybe that's what knocked it if it was on the card to begin? Here are some decent pics of the PSA:



Shout out to @VampireSports for the trade!